Whats this?? New Species found in Chile!!

[john]

Have ya heard about this??

cuttle-fish?? (http://www.ccc-chile.org/site/article.php?sid=249&mode=thread&order=0)


weird..

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[P-Flipp]

At first it was thought to be a whale.It's actually some kind of squid about 60 feet long.

Giant Sea Creature Baffles Chilean Scientists


SANTIAGO, Chile (Reuters) - Chilean scientists were baffled on Tuesday by a huge, gelatinous sea creature found washed up on the southern Pacific coast and were seeking international help identifying the mystery specimen.

The dead creature was mistaken for a beached whale when first reported about a week ago, but experts who went to see it said the 40-foot-long mass of decomposing lumpy gray flesh apparently was an invertebrate.

"We'd never before seen such a strange specimen, We don't know if it might be a giant squid that is missing some of its parts or maybe it's a new species," said Elsa Cabrera, a marine biologist and director of the Center for Cetacean Conservation in Santiago.

Photographs showed a round leathery substance like a mammoth jelly fish, about as long as a school bus.

Giant squid live at a depth of 9,500 feet and only rise to the surface when they die. Specimens have been known to be as long as 60 feet.

There was speculation that the mass might be a whale skin, but Cabrera said it was too big and did not have the right texture or smell.

Cabrera said she was contacting Chilean and international organizations in the hope that they could help shed some light on the find.

The Chilean Navy first spotted the mystery specimen along with another large mass, but the other dead animal turned out to be a dead humpback whale.

[ July 02, 2003, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: P-Flipp ]

[And]

I can't read or understand Spanish .... graemlins/mecry.gif
I've eaten Cuttle fish though ... It didn't look like that thing they have in the article.

[ July 02, 2003, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: 6 23 ]

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Originally posted by 6 23:
I can't read or understand Spanish .... graemlins/mecry.gif Don't cry. graemlins/bighug.gif

[DJ Rated M]

way too big to be a cuttlefish. ....reading from the report that P Flipp put it said that it was too big for a whale........sperm whales grow up to 60(in fact they eat giant squid)and blue whales are the biggest animals on the planet and they get around 80 feet.....

[ July 02, 2003, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: DJ Rated M ]

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Originally posted by 6 23:
I can't read or understand Spanish .... graemlins/mecry.gif Here ya go, babe ;) :


You complete the news : 01/07/03 Jorobada Whale Beach Twig of the X Region



The male unit of 12 meters in length beached during the swell that affected to the X Region. Center of Cetacea Conservation traveled until the place of the varamiento to make inspection in land and to take samples from the unit which will be analyzed with the aid of international the scientific community.


Port Montt, Chile. 30 of June of 2003 (CCC News) - a unit of jorobada whale ( Megaptera novaeangliae ) that beached the week last in the beach the Mancillas, located in the neighborhoods from Godoy Port to the west of Montt Port, was the past inspected weekend by an equipment of the Center of Cetacea Conservation that attended the place after being alerted of the event by the Harbor authorities of Maullin, personnel of the Municipality of the Muermos and fishermen of the zone.

The work is framed within the establishment of the Network of Sighting of Marine Mammals of Chile ( RAMMC ) that CCC are implementing throughout the country from February of the 2003 and that at the moment it counts on the sponsorship of the DIRECTEMAR , the SERNATUR and the support of the Bottom the International for the Protection of the Animals and its Ha'bitat ( IFAW ).

EDUCATIVE WORK

During the scientific inspection, led by Verónica Altayó, withdrawn of Veterinary Medicine, quipo took advantage of to make an educative work and of awareness on the importance of conserving the marine mammals, to 35 children of several schools of the Municipality of the Muermos, that attended the place thanks to a remarkable work of coordination made by Don Hernán Asencio, that works in the Dp. de Educacio'n of this Municipality.

The external measurements of the body of the animal, were made with the aid of the voluntary young people who were very interested in learning on the species and the conservation of the present Chilean water cetaceans.

Elsa Goatherd, director of CCC, affirmed that "we were contentments very then this one is a valueable example of which it is possible to be obtained when the governmental institutions, the civil organizations and the coastal communities are united to advance towards common objectives of conservation, education and science".

Goatherd added that the results of the workings made in land and laboratory will be sent to the diverse authorities of the X Region for their distribution in the schools, universisades and training centers, with the purpose of increasing the knowledge of the citizenship on the great diversity of species of cetaceans found in Chilean waters and the importance of her conservation for the social welfare and economic of the future generations, since "lamentably these species very are not known for the Chilean population due to the lack of massive diffusion on the subject".

SCIENTIFIC WORKINGS


The land work also included photographic registries of the body of the whale, specially of its fin dorsal and of great volume, which will be sent to research centers of cetaceans abroad with the purpose of knowing if the unit is identified in waters of other countries.

Altayó declared that "the jorobadas whales move during the austral winter until northern latitudes where are the areas of reproduction and raising, mainly in the Gorgona Island located in the Colombian Pacific. During the summer they migrate until Antarctica to feed itself in waters of the austral ocean, reason why we hoped that the beached unit is identified in some international data base ".


The jorobadas whales identify themselves individually by the form of the dorsal fin and by the pattern of pigmentación of the inferior part of the fin of great volume.

The presence of the unit in Chilean coasts during this time of the year creates a series of questions of which it emphasizes if the population of whales jorobadas in the area of the Eastern South pacifico corresponds to a single population or if on the contrary a local population exists.

Additionally, the equipment of CCC extracted samples of weave, fat and beards of unit of approximately 12 meters in length, which will be analyzed with the aid of international the scientific community to determine their age and to make the analyses corresponding to know more about the life this whale and Biology of the species.

The inspection made in the place could determine that it is a male unit that probably beached with life in the beach of the Mancillas during the swell that affection to the X Region the last week.

VARAMIENTO

Some theories on porqué beach the cetaceans aim towards the alteration of the sense of the direction caused perhaps by the changes in the magnetic fields of the planet, to which it is created are sensible the whales. In other cases it is indicated that the varamiento cause can be a disease. An infection, specially in the ear or the brain, can give rise to disorientation, disqualifying them to feed itself or be oriented. In these cases, the own weakness can cause that the whale approaches the coast to rest.

According to them inspection made in the beach the Mancillas, the unit does not present/display wounded scars or that could have caused their death, reason why still the exact causes of the varamiento are not known.

WHALE JOROBADA


The jorobada whale is one of the species of misticetos more well-known. Within their repertoire of behaviors well the spectacular jumps and the blows with the fin pectoral and of great volume are known. Its face as also the inner edge of the long pectoral fins is covered with protuberances. The pectoral fins get to measure four meters and are longest between all the cetaceans. The tail of this whale has white spots which are different in each individual and can thus be used for the identification of the animals.


The males in the zones of raising are known to produce songs of up to 30 minutes of duration and by being enough complexes.

Because its population was decimated during the time of ballenería commercial, the jorobada whale is prote'ge'e of the commercial hunting by Comisio'n Ballenera Internacional (CBI) and the Convention On Comercio the International of Species Threatened of Wild Fauna and Flora (CHALLENGES).

Nevertheless, the Caribbean island of Bequia, located in San Vicente and Granadinas, at the moment manteniene a quota hunting of native subsistence of four whales jorobadas to the year which are hunted under the regulations established by the Convention of the CBI. The hunting made in San Vicente and Granadinas is one of cruelest and cruel, since to attract an adult unit, first they hunt to a young. The hunters know that the mother always will try to protect the young and they take advantage of this situation.

Goatherd, who participates as observant in CCC in the annual meetings of the CBI and it CHALLENGES , affirms that "biologically, the capture of especimenes that have not reached the sexual maturity, enormously hits the state of conservation of the population since it removes essential individuals for the future reproduction of the affected species".

STRANGE FINDING

CCC also it was alerted of a second varamiento of whale in the Pinuno beach, 3.9 kilometers to the north of the place where the unit of jorobada whale is located, reason why Sunday attended the place in hours in the morning.

When acceding to the zone, the inspection equipment could verify that it would not be a cetacean, but of an invertebrate of great dimensions. To grief that other declarations affirm that it would be the leather of a died whale in the ocean, CCC are making the managements to send samples from weave to France with the purpose of making genetic analisis to determine if a mysterious animal is a giant squid ( Octopus giganteus) of which a water registry exists only of Florida, the United States, in 1896.

Source: CCC

[And]

graemlins/remybussi.gif Thanks Albert.
Now ... how about Spanish lessons ... grrrr. Hahahaa ;)

[And]

Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
way too big to be a cuttlefish. ....reading from the report that P Flipp put it said that it was too big for a whale........sperm whales grow up to 60(in fact they eat giant squid)and blue whales are the biggest animals on the planet and they get around 80 feet..... The depths of the ocean is still one of the largest undiscovered areas. I can't imagine what types of creatures lurk there.

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Originally posted by 6 23:
graemlins/remybussi.gif Thanks Albert.
Now ... how about Spanish lessons ... grrrr. Hahahaa ;) Oh, I'll give you some lessons alright. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
way too big to be a cuttlefish. ....reading from the report that P Flipp put it said that it was too big for a whale........sperm whales grow up to 60(in fact they eat giant squid)and blue whales are the biggest animals on the planet and they get around 80 feet..... The depths of the ocean is still one of the largest undiscovered areas. I can't imagine what types of creatures lurk there. </font>[/QUOTE]true dat........

[MYOR]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
graemlins/remybussi.gif Thanks Albert.
Now ... how about Spanish lessons ... grrrr. Hahahaa ;) Oh, I'll give you some lessons alright. graemlins/cool_shades.gif </font>[/QUOTE]fish,"Spanish lessons",grr.. can you see where this is leading to.... graemlins/nono.gif

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Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
way too big to be a cuttlefish. ....reading from the report that P Flipp put it said that it was too big for a whale........sperm whales grow up to 60(in fact they eat giant squid)and blue whales are the biggest animals on the planet and they get around 80 feet..... The depths of the ocean is still one of the largest undiscovered areas. I can't imagine what types of creatures lurk there. </font>[/QUOTE]I along with my colleague Dr. Jaque Cousteau made the discovery of the bearded clam species along the great wetlands of vagionia. It was the single greatest find to be discovered on earth in the last century and it required me to go to great depths to find this slippery creature, but it was well worth the reward. You may call me Dr. Clam. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[Nicholas]

best. thread. ever.

[And]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
way too big to be a cuttlefish. ....reading from the report that P Flipp put it said that it was too big for a whale........sperm whales grow up to 60(in fact they eat giant squid)and blue whales are the biggest animals on the planet and they get around 80 feet..... The depths of the ocean is still one of the largest undiscovered areas. I can't imagine what types of creatures lurk there. </font>[/QUOTE]I along with my colleague Dr. Jaque Cousteau made the discovery of the bearded clam species along the great wetlands of vagionia. It was the single greatest find to be discovered on earth in the last century and it required me to go to great depths to find this slippery creature, but it was well worth the reward. You may call me Dr. Clam. graemlins/cool_shades.gif </font>[/QUOTE]and I must say it was very nice to be "discovered." graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[andrea]

There was speculation that the mass might be a whale skin, but Cabrera said it was too big and did not have the right texture or smell

what? who gets that close to smell it? I bet the smell was tremendous. I think it was a mutant squid. I hope squid leave the planet soon.

[Sharp Eye Washington]

Interesting. Could it be the Loch Ness? ;)

[john]

did anyone of you catch that BBC series Blue planet.. (think thats the title..)?? They went down in the deep and filmed species never seen before. It had unbelievable footage!!

(they missed this one though..)

[MYOR]

We have many things that still need to be discovered in the great blue ocean.. if we don't kill them first with all the pollution.. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

[Sharp Eye Washington]

Originally posted by MYOR:
We have many things that still need to be discovered in the great blue ocean.. if we don't kill them first with all the pollution.. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif One can only imagine what lies beneath the deep darkness. The ocean floor is the final frontier on earth.

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by john:
did anyone of you catch that BBC series Blue planet.. (think thats the title..)?? They went down in the deep and filmed species never seen before. It had unbelievable footage!!

(they missed this one though..) they can't even film a giant squid down that deep so i know they couldn't have found what this thing is.....the same geniuses who thought a dead Basking Shark was some kind of monster....

i thought is was dope when they attached the Critter Cam to the backs of Sperm Whales diving to find Giant Squid...too bad that one whale knocked the camera off & it floated back to the top....

[DJ Rated M]

i saw a better picture of it on Yahoo...it's a Giant Squid......... you can see the tentacles at the bottom of the pic.........

[bigg donn a.k.a bigg donn]

QUE?????????? graemlins/conf44.gif