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D J 1 3 8
09-17-2003, 09:47 AM
The good news:

A) HE SUCKED. Half of his mixes were fvcking trainwrecks.

B) massive technical problems. His laptop kept just cutting out in the middle of songs. He'd get this really overly-confused look like "Wha'happen??!" then hit the play button again.

The bad news:

A) people danced anyway.

B) I was sitting there thinking to myself "I spend $300 a month on vinyl and this clown gets his entire record collection for FREE" mad1.gif

C) I have seen the future...and it ain't us (vinyl DJs)

Huey P. Freeman
09-17-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
The good news:

A) HE SUCKED. Half of his mixes were fvcking trainwrecks.

B) massive technical problems. His laptop kept just cutting out in the middle of songs. He'd get this really overly-confused look like "Wha'happen??!" then hit the play button again.

The bad news:

A) people danced anyway.

B) I was sitting there thinking to myself "I spend $300 a month on vinyl and this clown gets his entire record collection for FREE" mad1.gif

C) I have seen the future...and it ain't us (vinyl DJs) I have a friend who uses one of those programs to make mix cds for himself. I give him shit about it all the time. If that is the future it ain't pretty.

GROOVE VICTIM
09-17-2003, 09:55 AM
Something I noticed while up in New York. I really don't have a clue what the crowd wants anymore.

Listening to Jihad Muhammad and Tyrone Francis saturday night, these cats were going off!! But I'm noticing that the crowds are steering away from the more gritty cuts that are being released and tend to dance only when the "Bongo" joints are being played.

Then Sunday night at Ashe', where Jellybean Benitez and Frankie Feliciano were playing, it was almost the total opposite, and this club caters to a more "progressive crowd". Both Frankie and Jellybean were playing great vocals, classics, pumped up stuff and the crowd was feeling it.


So what do you do? I say screw the mixing skills, hold on to the crowd as long as you can, no matter whether you're on a laptop, a tape deck, or two turntables.

Peace

Bill Blake
09-17-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
from the more gritty cuts that are being released and tend to dance only when the "Bongo" joints are being played.
Bongo joints are big here still

dj c-los
09-17-2003, 10:06 AM
I think people want to feel good and dance nowadays. The only people that get impressed of crazy filtering, crab scraching, stops, and cuttin are other DJ's. I think early DJ's played for "the crowd," then went into a "look what i can do," but now it's going back to "the crowd."
laptop DJ's are funny but if i ran a bar...having a guy playing vinyl lp's is better 'eye-candy' and much more marketable.
But if there was a laptop DJ playin all the hottest tracks but trainwrecking
vs.
a DJ who plays what he wants but cut a sweat after 20 minutes into his set due to massive table tricks he was doing...who would you replace?

Drrtynewyork
09-17-2003, 10:08 AM
was that kerri chandler playin? biggrinangel.gif

D J 1 3 8
09-17-2003, 10:09 AM
I don't ask for crab-scratching. just basic matching beats is the bare miniumu for a DJ leaving his bedroom. It's shocking how many DJs, both laptop and vinyl, never even mastered the basics.

And with a laptop, I'm assuming yuo can just punch i the freaking BPM. How the hell can you not match two beats when you can digitally set the BPM? that's shit's bananas.

Bold Soul
09-17-2003, 10:10 AM
Programming! Keep the music going and open things up for the dancers. Make certain to mix cuts that everyone knows with new music and old classics with no rhyme or reason - just full of suprises. No one "oohs" and "aahs" over turtabilism on the dancefloor, but you toss in something that people haven't heard in ages and the whole room comes alive!

GROOVE VICTIM
09-17-2003, 10:11 AM
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Bold Soul
09-17-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by clos7:
I think people want to feel good and dance nowadays. The only people that get impressed of crazy filtering, crab scraching, stops, and cuttin are other DJ's. I think early DJ's played for "the crowd," then went into a "look what i can do," but now it's going back to "the crowd."
laptop DJ's are funny but if i ran a bar...having a guy playing vinyl lp's is better 'eye-candy' and much more marketable.
But if there was a laptop DJ playin all the hottest tracks but trainwrecking
vs.
a DJ who plays what he wants but cut a sweat after 20 minutes into his set due to massive table tricks he was doing...who would you replace? The second DJ - no question.

GROOVE VICTIM
09-17-2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Programming! Keep the music going and open things up for the dancers. Make certain to mix cuts that everyone knows with new music and old classics with no rhyme or reason - just full of suprises. No one "oohs" and "aahs" over turtabilism on the dancefloor, but you toss in something that people haven't heard in ages and the whole room comes alive! The problem is, you can't play alot of older records these days. People want to hear new unreleased stuff all the time. Nowadays, any ordinary Joe has access to exclusive stuff once praised by the Big Wigs. So as a result, they forcefeed new shit down our throats and leave the stuff from 2 months ago on the shelves collecting dust.

Now if you build up a reputation for playing a certain way then you're going to create a following that's familiar with your sound. You're expected to play a certain way for the crowd that supports you so in this case, your options are more open to do things such as, play classics, cut up records, blend everything, because that's what's expected.

Peace

Chris Conrad
09-17-2003, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
The good news:

A) HE SUCKED. Half of his mixes were fvcking trainwrecks.

B) massive technical problems. His laptop kept just cutting out in the middle of songs. He'd get this really overly-confused look like "Wha'happen??!" then hit the play button again.

The bad news:

A) people danced anyway.

B) I was sitting there thinking to myself "I spend $300 a month on vinyl and this clown gets his entire record collection for FREE" mad1.gif

C) I have seen the future...and it ain't us (vinyl DJs) this is something i've been trying to say for a while now...all the local dj's here in jersey play strictly downloaded music and laugh at us paying for music. often times their mp3's sound like pure garbage. these are the guys getting the gigs, becasue they will play for a much lower fee than most of us would, because they spend NOTHING on music.

Ron la Rock
09-17-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
I don't ask for crab-scratching. just basic matching beats is the bare miniumu for a DJ leaving his bedroom. It's shocking how many DJs, both laptop and vinyl, never even mastered the basics.

And with a laptop, I'm assuming yuo can just punch i the freaking BPM. How the hell can you not match two beats when you can digitally set the BPM? that's shit's bananas. WERD!

Fred Naked
09-17-2003, 03:46 PM
I've said before, if the MP3/CD dj's had to pay for a lot of their music, it'd only be those producing the music playing on the MP3 mixers!!

Edmund White
09-17-2003, 04:07 PM
I've been a vinyl DJ for 10 years... but if I were new to this and playing in bars, pop clubs, etc.... I'd probably buy Final Scratch or a Denon S5000 CD deck and buy music from the Apple iTunes Music Store (http://www.apple.com/music/store/). How much easier could it get?

Insert pseudonym here
09-18-2003, 02:57 AM
Laptop DJ(s) are the "trend" of the future, but they may not be the future entirely.

I have the utmost faith is what I call the "quality factor". We (househeads) may not be the majority, but most of us are at an age where our disposable income has a bit more power than it used to... when you go to a venue and the music is not to your liking, break out your pen or the phone and ring up management. Though, most places cater to the twenty-something, its the dirty thirty-somethings that come to drink and eat and per person spend more money.

Watching a laptop DJ without getting a bit heated is hard, I even toy(ed) with the notion of going that route because it was so easy to download music and pre-program them ... but I wouldn't have learned anything and I don't think having a digital "jonez" would've truly fueled my "true passion" for music.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to "what chu play'n for"? If you are playing for the crowd, if you are playing for the hype, if you are playing for yourself or if you are playing for the sake of uplifting dance music....

You decide.

jurren
09-18-2003, 10:56 AM
i'm with Efab here.

i do think there's a place for laptop dj's, if only they bring more then a 'classical' dj. someone like brendan m. gillen from ectomorph uses a program called 'ableton live' on his laptop while dj-ing, this way he can do remixes on the fly, and other things virtually impossible on a normal set-up. that's something i wouldn't mind hearing. but if someone just transfers his records to mp3, or downloads them from the internet, and plays them 'the old-fashioned-way' on his laptop, i say: why?
why, take a superior machine and not use any of it's extra features, and basically give people an inferior end result due to the inferior sound quality?

jurren

ruse
09-18-2003, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by jurren:
i'm with Efab here.

i do think there's a place for laptop dj's, if only they bring more then a 'classical' dj. someone like brendan m. gillen from ectomorph uses a program called 'ableton live' on his laptop while dj-ing, this way he can do remixes on the fly, and other things virtually impossible on a normal set-up. that's something i wouldn't mind hearing. but if someone just transfers his records to mp3, or downloads them from the internet, and plays them 'the old-fashioned-way' on his laptop, i say: why?
why, take a superior machine and not use any of it's extra features, and basically give people an inferior end result due to the inferior sound quality?

jurren hey jurren
ableton sounds interesting ... do you have any more details about it?
i am currently making the switch to final scratch ... i want to make my own edits, and i dont have time to cut tape (reel-to-reel) ... there are other factors, convenience primarily (cant be lugging all that vinyl around) ... i honestly dont think any crowd is going to notice the sound difference, especially with the quality of most club systems these days ... and are they going to care when i hit them hard with a set of ruse-edited classics?

D J 1 3 8
09-18-2003, 02:32 PM
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week.

kev
09-18-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. Tell that to FK and Kerri Chandler ;)

ruse
09-18-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. you are entitled to your opinion. i dont really see how technology determines respect or self-respect. at what point does respect end? with the technics 1200s and rane MP2016 mixer? maybe you are discounting all the possible innovation that can come from more mobile forms of DJing. i am personally averse to CD DJing, dont ask me why but i never liked the thought of it... but i cannot say that CD DJs dont respect the art, just look around at who is using CDs.
To me the biggest form of disrespect to this art are the djs who put out mixes with 13 songs, mixed one straight into the other. Or the onew who put out a mix every week... how much thought goes into each one of these mixes? The last mix I put out took me 3 months to complete, and my next one might take 6 or more. I would never want something out there with my name on it that wasnt perfect.

Bill Blake
09-18-2003, 03:05 PM
I stuck my dick in an electrical socket. It didn’t feel as good as when I stuck it in an old fashioned meet grinder. But meat grinders are gonna make a comeback, sure the electricity is stimulating but there is gonna be a backlash.

Pretty soon you’ll see, everyone will be sticking their dicks in meat grinders, like God intended them to do.

Brian
09-18-2003, 03:06 PM
i only respect people who spin 7"s

statuskuo
09-18-2003, 03:07 PM
F u c k CDJs~!

D J 1 3 8
09-18-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by ruse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. you are entitled to your opinion. i dont really see how technology determines respect or self-respect. at what point does respect end? with the technics 1200s and rane MP2016 mixer? maybe you are discounting all the possible innovation that can come from more mobile forms of DJing. i am personally averse to CD DJing, dont ask me why but i never liked the thought of it... but i cannot say that CD DJs dont respect the art, just look around at who is using CDs.
To me the biggest form of disrespect to this art are the djs who put out mixes with 13 songs, mixed one straight into the other. Or the onew who put out a mix every week... how much thought goes into each one of these mixes? The last mix I put out took me 3 months to complete, and my next one might take 6 or more. I would never want something out there with my name on it that wasnt perfect. </font>[/QUOTE]I see your point, and I will admit to being a bit heavy-handed with my blanket generalizations (I take this DJ shit personally yo) but the exceptions to the rule seem very far and few between for me. I'm not saying a laptop DJ can't make a crowd dance. Obviously they can. I witnessed it 2 nights ago. But to me, he sucked and lacked the feeling you get from a real DJ. I have witnessed the same thing with many CD DJs as well. It's certainly a personal taste thing, and I am most likely just showing my crusty old age, but I know a wack DJ when I hear one.

As for mixtapes, that's another very subjective thing. People make mixtapes for different reasons. Some do it to impress other DJs. Some do it to get gigs. Some do it just to put some new shit on CD so they can hear it at work. One's man booty mix is another man's perfect mix. Also, what takes you 3 months might take Louie Vega 3 days, nah'mean?

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by IIBS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. Tell that to FK and Kerri Chandler ;) </font>[/QUOTE]FK has many times talked about the shortcomings of not only MP3's but cd's with regards to sound quality and is experimenting with hi resolution file formats for digital dj'ing. As for Kerri, I've heard many a complaint regarding the sound quality of his laptop setup, and certain gigs has extra sound borught in, such as extra bassbins to compensate. Read FK's own comments on the many discussions regarding this on the Wave Music message board.

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by ruse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jurren:
i'm with Efab here.

i do think there's a place for laptop dj's, if only they bring more then a 'classical' dj. someone like brendan m. gillen from ectomorph uses a program called 'ableton live' on his laptop while dj-ing, this way he can do remixes on the fly, and other things virtually impossible on a normal set-up. that's something i wouldn't mind hearing. but if someone just transfers his records to mp3, or downloads them from the internet, and plays them 'the old-fashioned-way' on his laptop, i say: why?
why, take a superior machine and not use any of it's extra features, and basically give people an inferior end result due to the inferior sound quality?

jurren hey jurren
ableton sounds interesting ... do you have any more details about it?
i am currently making the switch to final scratch ... i want to make my own edits, and i dont have time to cut tape (reel-to-reel) ... there are other factors, convenience primarily (cant be lugging all that vinyl around) ... i honestly dont think any crowd is going to notice the sound difference, especially with the quality of most club systems these days ... and are they going to care when i hit them hard with a set of ruse-edited classics? </font>[/QUOTE]you don't need final scratch to do edits, you can do it on any wave editing program. final scratch is a great piece of software for production work or dj type use.

I do editing using Soundforge.

Final scratch sounds good when you use high quality files with it (WAV, AIFF), not MP3's. MP3's should not be played in a club.

http://www.ableton.com/

Ron la Rock
09-18-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Something I noticed while up in New York. I really don't have a clue what the crowd wants anymore.

Listening to Jihad Muhammad and Tyrone Francis saturday night, these cats were going off!! But I'm noticing that the crowds are steering away from the more gritty cuts that are being released and tend to dance only when the "Bongo" joints are being played.

Then Sunday night at Ashe', where Jellybean Benitez and Frankie Feliciano were playing, it was almost the total opposite, and this club caters to a more "progressive crowd". Both Frankie and Jellybean were playing great vocals, classics, pumped up stuff and the crowd was feeling it.


things have gotten individualized as 2 what will move people these days its hard 2 gather what will rock whole rooms
part of this problem is the way people are recieving and precieving music these
days a major cultural shift (the whole video thing etc..)and this is not exclusive 2 club/house/dance music
this state of flux has been real crazy and
it seems folk just ain't open as they used 2 be
the wierd thing is its the 3rd year in new century
graemlins/conf44.gif

ramblin iknow

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by jurren:
i'm with Efab here.

i do think there's a place for laptop dj's, if only they bring more then a 'classical' dj. someone like brendan m. gillen from ectomorph uses a program called 'ableton live' on his laptop while dj-ing, this way he can do remixes on the fly, and other things virtually impossible on a normal set-up. that's something i wouldn't mind hearing. but if someone just transfers his records to mp3, or downloads them from the internet, and plays them 'the old-fashioned-way' on his laptop, i say: why?
why, take a superior machine and not use any of it's extra features, and basically give people an inferior end result due to the inferior sound quality?

jurren I have nothing against people using new technology...the new toys sound decent with high quality files, but the problem is most of the local laptop dj's download all their music for free and take the gigs for very low fees. Clubs and bars will hire htese guys because they don't care about music or sound quality, only if the place is packed.

kev
09-18-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by IIBS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. Tell that to FK and Kerri Chandler ;) </font>[/QUOTE]FK has many times talked about the shortcomings of not only MP3's but cd's with regards to sound quality and is experimenting with hi resolution file formats for digital dj'ing. As for Kerri, I've heard many a complaint regarding the sound quality of his laptop setup, and certain gigs has extra sound borught in, such as extra bassbins to compensate. Read FK's own comments on the many discussions regarding this on the Wave Music message board. </font>[/QUOTE]I know what you're saying. I have a couple of friends that have final scratch, so I've heard the difference in sound quality. I should also mention that I've heard a glitch free set on final scratch happen only a couple of times (what a coincidence - both FK and Kerri Chandler sets). I was just commenting on 138's post on being able to outperform any dj who uses a laptop (in a joking sort of way).

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by ruse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jurren:
i'm with Efab here.

i do think there's a place for laptop dj's, if only they bring more then a 'classical' dj. someone like brendan m. gillen from ectomorph uses a program called 'ableton live' on his laptop while dj-ing, this way he can do remixes on the fly, and other things virtually impossible on a normal set-up. that's something i wouldn't mind hearing. but if someone just transfers his records to mp3, or downloads them from the internet, and plays them 'the old-fashioned-way' on his laptop, i say: why?
why, take a superior machine and not use any of it's extra features, and basically give people an inferior end result due to the inferior sound quality?

jurren hey jurren
ableton sounds interesting ... do you have any more details about it?
i am currently making the switch to final scratch ... i want to make my own edits, and i dont have time to cut tape (reel-to-reel) ... there are other factors, convenience primarily (cant be lugging all that vinyl around) ... i honestly dont think any crowd is going to notice the sound difference, especially with the quality of most club systems these days ... and are they going to care when i hit them hard with a set of ruse-edited classics? </font>[/QUOTE]that's the problem..everyone is settlign these days and not demanding good sound quality. you can tell the difference in real vs mp3 if your ears are in good shape. you can even tell the difference in vinyl vs cd. in a nyc club one time, a well known nyc dj and label owner and myself were listening to a certain dj. the dj was playing vinyl with a lot of cd's, pretty much every other track was cd...the label hed dj was standing off to the side of the booth, unable to see inside. he guessed the format of every track, whether it was a cd or vinyl, and commented to me how nobody gives a f*ck about sound quality anymore these days.

i would like to see side by side tests of the various formats on a world class club sound system, such as stereo in montreal, where you can hear the slightest difference in sources and material. too many clubs have poorly designed, off the shelf sound systems that sound like crap, so we use that as an excuse to support the new formats.

Ron la Rock
09-18-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Ron paizley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
I don't ask for crab-scratching. just basic matching beats is the bare miniumu for a DJ leaving his bedroom. It's shocking how many DJs, both laptop and vinyl, never even mastered the basics.

And with a laptop, I'm assuming yuo can just punch i the freaking BPM. How the hell can you not match two beats when you can digitally set the BPM? that's shit's bananas. WERD! </font>[/QUOTE]on the real cdjs/ vynil/laptops mp3's/wave
or yodling dixie with two cans and a string
IF YOU GOT NO SKILLZ YOU SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING PERIOD mad1.gif

by the way I saw a couple of well known cats rock cdj1000's
evil dee is tearin a whole in them
and
Dj Hot day
graemlins/respekt.gif
believe I'm gonna get nice on them things
a by X-mas gotta get a apple pc
final scratch here the fuk I cum
hard fuk that
mad1.gif

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by IIBS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by IIBS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ 138:
personally I feel if you have any self-respect and respect for the art of DJing, you could never be a laptop DJ.

I'm not saying laptops aren't decent tools for edits and whatnot, but give me vinyl and a crowd and I will tear a hole in any laptop DJ any day of the week. Tell that to FK and Kerri Chandler ;) </font>[/QUOTE]FK has many times talked about the shortcomings of not only MP3's but cd's with regards to sound quality and is experimenting with hi resolution file formats for digital dj'ing. As for Kerri, I've heard many a complaint regarding the sound quality of his laptop setup, and certain gigs has extra sound borught in, such as extra bassbins to compensate. Read FK's own comments on the many discussions regarding this on the Wave Music message board. </font>[/QUOTE]I know what you're saying. I have a couple of friends that have final scratch, so I've heard the difference in sound quality. I should also mention that I've heard a glitch free set on final scratch happen only a couple of times (what a coincidence - both FK and Kerri Chandler sets). I was just commenting on 138's post on being able to outperform any dj who uses a laptop (in a joking sort of way). </font>[/QUOTE]definetly, final scratch is a cool and new way of doing things, if used properly with high quality files with someone who knows what they are doing. my concern is the random kid who starts djing with all downloaded material. final scratch sounds good using good source files recorded properly.

Chris Conrad
09-18-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Ron paizley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Something I noticed while up in New York. I really don't have a clue what the crowd wants anymore.

Listening to Jihad Muhammad and Tyrone Francis saturday night, these cats were going off!! But I'm noticing that the crowds are steering away from the more gritty cuts that are being released and tend to dance only when the "Bongo" joints are being played.

Then Sunday night at Ashe', where Jellybean Benitez and Frankie Feliciano were playing, it was almost the total opposite, and this club caters to a more "progressive crowd". Both Frankie and Jellybean were playing great vocals, classics, pumped up stuff and the crowd was feeling it.


things have gotten individualized as 2 what will move people these days its hard 2 gather what will rock whole rooms
part of this problem is the way people are recieving and precieving music these
days a major cultural shift (the whole video thing etc..)and this is not exclusive 2 club/house/dance music
this state of flux has been real crazy and
it seems folk just ain't open as they used 2 be
the wierd thing is its the 3rd year in new century
graemlins/conf44.gif

ramblin iknow </font>[/QUOTE]i'm always telling people that its 2003, but eems liek things are going backwards almost with regards to people's behavior. time is advancing, but people and art are not.

D J 1 3 8
09-18-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by IIBS:
I was just commenting on 138's post on being able to outperform any dj who uses a laptop (in a joking sort of way). 138 SMASH PUNY LAPTOP DJ

ruse
09-18-2003, 04:01 PM
thanks for the info Chris, in fact I ordered Soundforge a few days ago (thanks to the suggestion of other DHP members) and was planning to use it for recording and editing. As for keeping files in .wav format the only issue is size of the files, is there any way to get around this? (maybe compress the files when not in use - or will this lead to problems later?)

Brian
09-18-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ron paizley:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Something I noticed while up in New York. I really don't have a clue what the crowd wants anymore.

Listening to Jihad Muhammad and Tyrone Francis saturday night, these cats were going off!! But I'm noticing that the crowds are steering away from the more gritty cuts that are being released and tend to dance only when the "Bongo" joints are being played.

Then Sunday night at Ashe', where Jellybean Benitez and Frankie Feliciano were playing, it was almost the total opposite, and this club caters to a more "progressive crowd". Both Frankie and Jellybean were playing great vocals, classics, pumped up stuff and the crowd was feeling it.


things have gotten individualized as 2 what will move people these days its hard 2 gather what will rock whole rooms
part of this problem is the way people are recieving and precieving music these
days a major cultural shift (the whole video thing etc..)and this is not exclusive 2 club/house/dance music
this state of flux has been real crazy and
it seems folk just ain't open as they used 2 be
the wierd thing is its the 3rd year in new century
graemlins/conf44.gif

ramblin iknow </font>[/QUOTE]i'm always telling people that its 2003, but eems liek things are going backwards almost with regards to people's behavior. time is advancing, but people and art are not. </font>[/QUOTE]and also sound quality is consistently being thrown out the window ... the success of the apple music store (people paying for lossy files and praising the service) being one example

Brian
09-18-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by ruse:
thanks for the info Chris, in fact I ordered Soundforge a few days ago (thanks to the suggestion of other DHP members) and was planning to use it for recording and editing. As for keeping files in .wav format the only issue is size of the files, is there any way to get around this? (maybe compress the files when not in use - or will this lead to problems later?) use a lossless compression scheme like Monkey's Audio or FLAC for storage

D J 1 3 8
09-18-2003, 04:22 PM
Are people like Kerri Chandler using uncompressed WAV files when playing live, or are they using MP3s?

ruse
09-18-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Brian:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ruse:
thanks for the info Chris, in fact I ordered Soundforge a few days ago (thanks to the suggestion of other DHP members) and was planning to use it for recording and editing. As for keeping files in .wav format the only issue is size of the files, is there any way to get around this? (maybe compress the files when not in use - or will this lead to problems later?) use a lossless compression scheme like Monkey's Audio or FLAC for storage </font>[/QUOTE]nice, i will look into that