Why is it so hard to get up and go to work?

[baby buddha]

Here i go again struggling to get it together to go work. Why the is so hard to get up and drag my behind onto the plantation?:mecry:

[soulman]

Cause u old...and hmmm what made u stay up so late last night ? hmm "that" always makes me jump outta bed the next day!!!

[The Buddy Love Show]

because you have neither a vision nor a plan for success

[simon b]

Because you hate your job?

Since I started working for myself I never have problems waking up.

[islandlover]

Because you hate your job?



BINGO!!!!

[kara]

i had a serious problem getting to work on time for the last year of the place i worked for 10 years. i was coming in at noon if at all. luckily id been there so long and my boss loved me, on many levels, i could get away with it. but it was a sign - i was unhappy and needed to make a change. now i get up an hour BEFORE my alarm is set every day ... of course, its only been a week. but i am psyched to get to work ever day, even last friday when i was hungover as HELL and only had 4 hours sleep.

[islandlover]

i had a serious problem getting to work on time for the last year of the place i worked for 10 years. i was coming in at noon if at all. luckily id been there so long and my boss loved me, on many levels, i could get away with it. but it was a sign - i was unhappy and needed to make a change. now i get up an hour BEFORE my alarm is set every day ... of course, its only been a week. but i am psyched to get to work ever day, even last friday when i was hungover as HELL and only had 4 hours sleep.

frantic http://deephousepage.com/smilies/AR15firing.gif LOL http://deephousepage.com/smilies/rofl.gif

[The Buddy Love Show]

dont blame your job, blame your self

[the crackhouse]

I would say blame your job. Some people are not even ready to work. I know that because I am.
And I don't believe in the success sometimes called "american dream". Absolutly no offend here to my fellow US DHPs nor to Palatine, everyone got his/her views.

So maybe you should try to find a job you like, or go into some artistic works which could -eventually- bring you enough money to live a good life.

If you're in couple, you may discuss this very subject because since my wife caught by total luck a job that she adore, this is the possibility for me to try something new, since we can live on her salary.

Work should never be a stressing thing.

I'm happy you launched this subject.

Idance

[The Buddy Love Show]

why blame your job?

it didnt choose you, you chose it. Your position would be perfectly fine without you in it. It might also be sufficiently motivational for someone else.

it is a hard thing to blame oneself

[islandlover]

why blame your job?

it didnt choose you, you chose it. Your position would be perfectly fine without you in it. It might also be sufficiently motivational for someone else.

it is a hard thing to blame oneself

I think sometimes you can blame the job because soooo many times the job shifts and changes from what the original description and duties were. You may be doing one thing in the first few years and they change it on you. You may not like the change.

[The Buddy Love Show]

I think sometimes you can blame the job because soooo many times the job shifts and changes from what the original description and duties were. You may be doing one thing in the first few years and they change it on you. You may not like the change.

then leave

Lincoln freed the slaves on Jan 1 1863

[the crackhouse]

why blame your job?

it didnt choose you, you chose it. Your position would be perfectly fine without you in it. It might also be sufficiently motivational for someone else.

it is a hard thing to blame oneself
Yes, "blame the job" is not exactly the good term.
But sometimes you need a job to get some money. Sometimes you will not have a dream-job because the interviewer will choose someone else.

Idance

[islandlover]

then leave

Lincoln freed the slaves on Jan 1 1863

wow, everything is so black and white with you. Of course then leave, but to answer the thread starters question of why is it so hard to get up and go to work, my reasons were stated.

Sometimes just leaving is not instant and that easy, esp. in this job market. But yes, if it is that bad where it hinders growth, gives you mental and physical problems, then yes, one should make steps to get employment elsewhere.

[The Buddy Love Show]

wow, everything is so black and white with you. Of course then leave, but to answer the thread starters question of why is it so hard to get up and go to work, my reasons were stated.

Sometimes just leaving is not instant and that easy, esp. in this job market. But yes, if it is that bad where it hinders growth, gives you mental and physical problems, then yes, one should make steps to get employment elsewhere.


EVERYTHING changes over time

if folk stay static why blame change?

most people hate their jobs because they themselves stopped growing or never bothered to be observant of the changing nature of their own workplace

once again, it still comes down to self

i'm very black and white about that because thats a part of self responsibility

there are those who have personal flotation devices. those who get picked up by passing ships, and those who go down w the ship - because they never took the time to notice the ship was sinking and were too lazy to familiarize themselves w the exits

[islandlover]

EVERYTHING changes over time

if folk stay static why blame change?

most people hate their jobs because they themselves stopped growing or never bothered to be observant of the changing nature of their own workplace

once again, it still comes down to self

i'm very black and white about that because thats a part of self responsibility

there are those who have personal flotation devices. those who get picked up by passing ships, and those who go down w the ship - because they never took the time to notice the ship was sinking and were too lazy to familiarize themselves w the exits

while I agree with a lot of what you're saying sometimes in life you can't predict everything in the workplace and stuff can come upon you like a hurricane without knowing.

[The Buddy Love Show]

while I agree with a lot of what you're saying sometimes in life you can't predict everything in the workplace and stuff can come upon you like a hurricane without knowing.

hurricanes dont just pop up out of nowhere

[islandlover]

hurricanes dont just pop up out of nowhere

ok, whatever, obviously your world is perfect and predictable and you're not getting my explanation of how things can come up. It has happened to me personally and other people in the job I had previously.

Please realize there are some things you just can't plan for in the workplace.

[the crackhouse]

PWW,
I don't think it only has to do with personnal views or courgae or attitude.

Leaving a job can be easy, but it can also mean that you are putting big responsibilities into this action. Do you have bills, a family to feed, will you find another job easily, does this new job really exist, will you have to train to get to this new job, ect...

Of course I will not argue upon the fact that change is good for your ego, but you always need to deal with all "what if(s)"?

The more important first step to me is to see where you are and what you can do.

- Can your network help you?
- What is your financial condition?
- Are you and your family ready for a change? Now or in xxx days, weeks, years?
- What do you need to get this new job?

Then of course you need to be in full effect to go for a change.
But it's the best for you, for sure.

Idance

[The Buddy Love Show]

ok, whatever, obviously your world is perfect and predictable and you're not getting my explanation of how things can come up. It has happened to me personally and other people in the job I had previously.

Please realize there are some things you just can't plan for in the workplace.

your analogy didnt work

of course their are things you cant plan for: fire, flood, hostile takeover, fda violations, somebody goes postal

but is that the usual scenario?

Fail to plan or plan to fail - I've never gotten caught w my pants down

[The Buddy Love Show]

PWW,
but you always need to deal with all "what if(s)"?



BINGO!!!!

[Chris Conrad]

...they never took the time to notice the ship was sinking and were too lazy to familiarize themselves w the exits

bingo

[Martin Red]

hurricanes dont just pop up out of nowhere


If you live in America, they don't, if you live around the Indian Ocean, they do.

[islandlover]

your analogy didnt work

of course their are things you cant plan for: fire, flood, hostile takeover, fda violations, somebody goes postal

but is that the usual scenario?

Fail to plan or plan to fail - I've never gotten caught w my pants down

good for you, other people aren't so fortunate. We all don't have the same mind, or opportunities as others. You can be prepared but not for everything.

[The Buddy Love Show]

If you live in America, they don't, if you live around the Indian Ocean, they do.

actually, they dont

http://www.hurricaneville.com/stages.html

and yes, i also looked up "spontaneous hurricanes" - no such beast

[the crackhouse]

actually, they dont

http://www.hurricaneville.com/stages.html

and yes, i also looked up "spontaneous hurricanes" - no such beast

C'mon people, let's not start some blablabla with links, it was a metaphor, or a fact, let's take it as pure rethoric.
We know what PeeWWee wanted to say !

[Martin Red]

actually, they dont

http://www.hurricaneville.com/stages.html

and yes, i also looked up "spontaneous hurricanes" - no such beast


Just Tsunami's then, same results, death and destruction.

[The Buddy Love Show]

good for you, other people aren't so fortunate. We all don't have the same mind, or opportunities as others. You can be prepared but not for everything.

"fortunate"? root word: fortune. fortune = luck: an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another

your job is one of the most important activities in your life and we talk about "fortune"?

c'mon

stop being victims start taking CONTROL of your lives

[islandlover]

"fortunate"? root word: fortune. fortune = luck: an unknown and unpredictable phenomenon that causes an event to result one way rather than another

your job is one of the most important activities in your life and we talk about "fortune"?

c'mon

stop being victims start taking CONTROL of your lives

wow

[The Buddy Love Show]

Just Tsunami's then, same results, death and destruction.

a tsunami isnt a hurricane, therefor, it's outside the scope of the analogy that was presented

[the crackhouse]

stop being victims start taking CONTROL of your lives

Why are there so little black people in the government and so much in jails ?

Please PWW, don't go too much on the way of super heroes, not every one can beat their society. Not every one can be as full of confidence as you are.
Be careful not to harm someone here.

Some people are genetically damaged (not talking of any race stupid thread here), it's not always your skills or willingness that can make you take control of something.

Even people with higher intelligence (IQ) will not fit into the society.

Peace

Idance

[The Buddy Love Show]

Eric Bogosian ( who I love) had a great line: "Chance favors the prepared mind"

Neitszche had an even better one: "God is Dead"

[Martin Red]

unless you believe in that whole wacky 7 day nonsense, then you have to look at what has made us what we are, for millions of years and the majority of our existence on the planet we didn't go to work for others, we worked in commuties where we all benefited from the toil, we all lived due to the work put in by all. In comparission, we've only been in this fucked up corporate world for an iota of time, we still probaby don't find it naturally in us yet, another 20 million years and it will seem like second nature, ashame the corporate world would have been long destroyed at this time.

You ask this question in the month the clocks go back and the hibernation begins, stay warm, berry time, when things die and leaves fall, sunlight is lesser, and darkness is around.

You also probably work in a city where you never actually see the stars which probably gave us all life in the first place. The companies probably like it like that, wouldn't want you star gazing and thinking of the bigger picture, best not look up, just stare at your TV for a little more corporate brainwashing.

[the crackhouse]

Take my kid for example, he is 8 but his brains are those of someone who is 12 or so. Means he can understand more things than the majority of kids of his age.

So it means that in his classroom, it's like he's 8 and the others are 4, if you take it from another point of view.

He's not superior at all, because as his brains are taking him away from his age traditionnal interests, his hands will not be a good tool for what he's got to express.
So he can't write as good as his litle fellows. Where could he beat the majority, even with his more advanced brains? What if he failed to pass this school year ? He will be with people with 1 year less than him, so he would take 5 years of brains difference ?

I know it sounds very personnal (it is), but it's just an example to tell you that even if your willingness is mucho grande, you can't aplly to all human beings.

Idance

[The Buddy Love Show]

unless you believe in that whole wacky 7 day nonsense, then you have to look at what has made us what we are, for millions of years and the majority of our existence on the planet we didn't go to work for others, we worked in commuties where we all benefited from the toil, we all lived due to the work put in by all. In comparission, we've only been in this fucked up corporate world for an iota of time, we still probaby don't find it naturally in us yet, another 20 million years and it will seem like second nature, ashame the corporate world would have been long destroyed at this time.

You ask this question in the month the clocks go back and the hibernation begins, stay warm, berry time, when things die and leaves fall, sunlight is lesser, and darkness is around.

You also probably work in a city where you never actually see the stars which probably gave us all life in the first place. The companies probably like it like that, wouldn't want you star gazing and thinking of the bigger picture, best not look up, just stare at your TV for a little more corporate brainwashing.


i guess it depends on how you look at work

I work for self. I'm employed by others.

Don't need the sun stars moon or Miss Cleo to hip me to that

It all comes back to self

[the crackhouse]

You also probably work in a city where you never actually see the stars which probably gave us all life in the first place.

Wow. Never thought of that but it's quite coming to me as... "Our mothers in the sky, watching us with care." How refreshing this idea is!

And I believe like Nietzsche that God is dead.

But PWW, don't forget that Frederic N, Jesus and Buddha where all INDIVIDUALS. So we should'nt try to follow them at all, and be our own selves.

Thanks Martin !

[The Buddy Love Show]

Whats interesting about these topics:

Most of us have a plan for NYE, and the WMC, and the Chosen Few Picnic or the billboard awards. We know what we are going to wear, eat, party at and dine/ We PLAN for successful outcomes for all of these oh so important events. We dont talk about "fortune" or "what if a hurricane or a tsunami hits?"

Compare that to discussions about education, financial planning, homebuying and your job. All of a sudden its "plans are fallible", "aliens might attack", "who has the time" "everybody cant be prepared" blah, blah, bullshit.

for nonsense folks are real "responsible". For the really real we needs to get "fortunate". (btw, islandlover, this isnt a personal attack but an examination of a general symptom that is all to prevalent around these parts)

get real, please

[Fletch]

not every one can beat their society......This statement is dangerous!

[islandlover]

Whats interesting about these topics:

Most of us have a plan for NYE, and the WMC, and the Chosen Few Picnic or the billboard awards. We know what we are going to wear, eat, party at and dine/ We PLAN for successful outcomes for all of these oh so important events. We dont talk about "fortune" or "what if a hurricane or a tsunami hits?"

Compare that to discussions about education, financial planning, homebuying and your job. All of a sudden its "plans are fallible", "aliens might attack", "who has the time" "everybody cant be prepared" blah, blah, bullshit.

for nonsense folks are real "responsible". For the really real we needs to get "fortunate". (btw, islandlover, this isnt a personal attack but an examination of a general symptom that is all to prevalent around these parts)

get real, please


Thanks babe. I really do hear you and agree with everything you've said. My main point was that in a world that we live in, we can never predict 100% what's going to happen; in life and in the workplace but we try our best.

It's easier for some and not so easy for others due to upbringing, past experiences and our own mental and emotional make up BUT one can prepare as best they can to expect the unexpected.

Me personally, I have a savings and keep my resume current.....just in case.

[SuzanneT]

wow, everything is so black and white with you. Of course then leave, but to answer the thread starters question of why is it so hard to get up and go to work, my reasons were stated.

Sometimes just leaving is not instant and that easy, esp. in this job market. But yes, if it is that bad where it hinders growth, gives you mental and physical problems, then yes, one should make steps to get employment elsewhere.
But it is "so black n white" and yes "leaving is not instant or that easy" but do you only do things that are safe, quick and easy? I hope not because you will miss out on so many opportunities because they were scary, long term or hard as hell. I had a job many moons ago, where the money was fantastic but the stress level was so high (had a major effect on my health) that it wasn't worth the money, my mental and physical health, or my relationships. It was then that I decided that peace of mind and a career change(into a field I love) were worth more than putting up with BS and more than compensated for the 20k salary cut of starting at the bottom of a new field. Jobs don't get better and employers are loyal to the bottom line not employees. You have to be loyal to yourself, which for me means doing the best job I can for my employer, so that I can keep earning the salary that keeps a roof over my head and supports my long term goal of self employment. I know it's time to move on to another job when I dread getting up in the morning because I have lost my focus on why I'm supposed to be there.
Sometimes we don't even realize we are making excuses for doing/trying something new: "the job market is slow", "the economy is bad", "I can't go to college because I have kids" etc.etc. Where there's a will there's a way. Let's be real, the job market hasn't been good since Reagan was in office (that's just a time frame, I'm not giving him credit :biggrinangel:) Gone are the days job hunting Monday and getting a the job on Wednesday. The competition is stiff but not impossible. I learned from DaveR many years ago to keep my resume current and to shop it out 2-3 times a year even when your not looking, it keeps your interview skills tight, boosts your ego, and let's you know your worth on the job market. It also helps eliminate that "I hate my job" mentality because you know what your worth and you know you control your employment fate.

[The Buddy Love Show]

keep my resume current.....just in case.

I learnded this from a fellow boardmember who stated they update their resume as soon as they start their new position

just in case

[the crackhouse]

This statement is dangerous!

I think it's more bad english spoken, what does it "really" mean ?

Idance

[liL Ray]

Here i go again struggling to get it together to go work. Why the is so hard to get up and drag my behind onto the plantation?:mecry:start doing something you love...then you can't tear yourself away from the work.

[the crackhouse]

Suzanne and Palatine,
i don't know how wide is the subject : I for example can't see myself in a job. Maybe it's nonsense to you, but I truly feel that working is as virtual as money, but it's not an utopia, I have a job and I own money this way.

My choices for working have now changed, I wish to know what effects my work as on the things and people it touches. That's why i'm electrician and build and mount all electric devices for public hospitals.

Ok, even if it feels more comfortable for me to do that than work in advertising or movies as I used to do previously, I don't like either to wake up in the morning and do that.

I don't feel more important but less useless.
The fact is I'm no more able (and believe me I tried hard) to get a job in advertising or cinema business. That's just the time when I cannot "resume" myself to what I can do.

I mean that it's not easy to get a job when you don't want to get a job. Sometimes it can be as simple as that, you can't lie about your envy and need to get a breath off working.

Idance

[liL Ray]

I learnded this from a fellow boardmember who stated they update their resume as soon as they start their new position

just in caseI can never understand a healthy, working, in their prime individual who don't have a resume at the ready at the drop of a dime.

I was always taught, as soon as you land that job, update that resume with the new job and use what you got to get what you want. More than likely, that job you have now is not the finally job in your life, it is just a another in your journey.

Back before computers, I always walked with a resume...remember when you saw those brothers with briefcases and they worked in the file room, and when they open the briefcase, it was a sandwich and some 8 1/2 x 11 paper...well, my papers were my resume.

Now, in the computer age, I have that shit on the desktop. I may work for myself now, but that don't mean I shouldn't be prepared. If some dumb ass want to pay me 250K or better to come sell loans or start up a division, and they say "send me a resume", at ;east I will be ready.

I have always wondered why folks who hate their jobs don't change their situation. Most of the times it just take a "line in the sand" and just make a decision to not take that bullshit anymore.

For me, I remember, I use to do all manner of menial jobs, including, but not limited to, selling food at street fairs, working in restaurants, delivering car parts, cooking for 300 people at House parties on 2 fish and 5 loves budgets, etc.

Then one day I said, "what the fuck are you doing, Ray...none of this will allow you to retire even at 80". So I said, "self, what industry is out there for a person like me, who didn't go to Harvard grad or Wharton Business, but want to make that kind of money?" and I set out to finding just that.

Just that "Taking a Stand", and saying "no more", I believe did a world of good for me. Am I at the end of my career road yet? Hell no, but I feel a whole lot better.

always be prepared, and if you don't like your situation, change it....sorry, but it is just that Black and White.

[AMc]

"people gotta go out there and bust they, bust they ass for a job
I mean, my dad's got five kids, man and I mean yo
he hates drivin' a bus but he loves five kids
you feel me?".....The Grind Date, De La Soul



Just give yourself a reason to WANT to wake up. Whatever it is, do it. I have to take my own advice sometimes as well!

We've all been there, and if we haven't, we're liars.....

[BrazenMuse]

I left a job I hated over 10 years ago and took a chance. Went back to school, I've gotten 2 MA degrees since then and a PhD. I tripped, as a student, into something it only took me 15 minutes to realize was a perfect occupation for me...teaching. I'm lucky, I'm blessed.

I BUSTED MY ASS FOR THOSE DEGREES. All the luck and blessing are naught without the sleepless nights. Nothing. I've moved to a completely different and more challenging (in some ways) phase of my worklife and...although some sleep would be nice and I've had to back off some of my favorite pursuits...I LOVE the challenge. I'm still ready to dive at a moment's notice, my resume is up to date...but...

I don't see how anyone can survive just having a "job" - but I know people who do it. I suppose if I had to, I might. But I've been avoiding it for so long now that I don't think I'll ever go back.

No one can predict EVERYTHING that might happen. EVERYONE can keep their eyes, ears and options open. EVERYONE can upgrade their skills constantly and pay attn to what's happening in their chosen field...

There's no controlling "every" variable...but there is discipline and there is determination.

My 2 cents

[AMc]

If you have a job you truly love, remember that someone out there has to clean the shit you wipe your ass with. If it wasn't for those people, you'd be too busy to do anything else but clean your own bowl of shit.

So if someone hates to wake up in the morning to clean your shit, who are you to argue?

At least if you're at the top, motivate others with your words. Don't shit on em' with "you are not focussed, therefore not driven for success, blah blah." That's negative to the utmost degree, and not entirely accurate. There can be many reasons why someone has a difficult time to wake up to go to work. Try waking up with fibromyalgia, or whatever.....some don't even know they have such illnesses.

If you're successful in the workforce, count your blessings, because in this world, you're one of a few lucky ones.

You'd have no idea how focussed some have to be to do their shitty jobs, and no, many can't get out of that situation. That's life.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try to fix your situation, and aim higher in life.

[BrazenMuse]

If you have a job you truly love, remember that someone out there has to clean the shit you wipe your ass with. If it wasn't for those people, you'd be too busy to do anything else but clean your own bowl of shit.

So if someone hates to wake up in the morning to clean your shit, who are you to argue?

At least if you're at the top, motivate others with your words. Don't shit on em' with "you are not focussed, therefore not driven for success, blah blah." That's negative to the utmost degree, and not entirely accurate. There can be many reasons why someone has a difficult time to wake up to go to work. Try waking up with fibromyalgia, or whatever.....some don't even know they have such illnesses.

If you're successful in the workforce, count your blessings, because in this world, you're one of a few lucky ones.

You'd have no idea how focussed some have to be to do their shitty jobs, and no, many can't get out of that situation. That's life.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't try to fix your situation, and aim higher in life.
u ain't lied here...certainly ain't lied.