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Martin Red
10-27-2003, 11:00 AM
UK Autumn celebration is called bonfire night. UK people let fireworks off and burn an efigy of a catholic who tried to bomb the houses of parliament.

So what is Halloween ?

Jay Rags
10-27-2003, 11:02 AM
Yeah, I would like to be enlightened also.

Rob.J
10-27-2003, 11:18 AM
Red, Are you aware that Halloween is an Irish tradition.

Halloween
Halloween: 5th Century B.C., Ireland
Even in ancient times, Halloween was a festival for witches, goblins, and ghosts, as well as for lighting bonfires and playing devilish pranks.

What has changed over the centuries are the reasons for dressing up ghoulishly, lighting fires, and acting mischievous. Now these things are done for fun -- and by children; in the past, they were done in deathly earnest - and by adults.

Named "All Hallows Eve," the festival was first celebrated by the ancient Celts in Ireland in the fifth century B.C. On the night of October 31, then the official end of summer, Celtic households extinguished the fires on their hearths to deliberately make their homes cold and undesirable to disembodied spirits. They then gathered outside the village, where a Druid priest kindled a huge bonfire to simultaneously honor the sun god for the past summer’s harvest and to frighten away furtive spirits.

The Celts believed that on October 31, all persons who had died in the previous year assembled to choose the body of the person or animal they would inhabit for the next twelve months, before they could pass peacefully into the afterlife. To frighten roving souls, Celtic family members dressed themselves as demons, hobgoblins, and witches. They paraded first inside, then outside, the fire less house, always as noisy and destructive as possible. Finally, they clamored along the street to the bonfire outside town. A villager, deemed by appearance or mannerism to be already possessed, could be sacrificed in the fire as a lesson to other spirits contemplating human possession.

The Romans adopted Celtic Halloween practices, but in A.D. 61 they outlawed human sacrifice, substituting the Egyptian custom of effigies (called ushabti by the Egyptians, who buried scores of statuettes with a pharaoh in place of his living attendants, once entombed with their king). In time, as belief in spirit possession waned, the dire portents of many Halloween practices lightened to ritualized amusement.

Irish immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine in the 1840s brought to America with them the Halloween customs of costume and mischief. The favorite pranks played by New England Irish youths on "mischief night" were overturning outhouses and unhinging front gates.


cheers

rob

Mack-Williams
10-27-2003, 11:23 AM
and folks just do it know for fun. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif People will celebrate anything to have a good time and not know the orgins.

Jay Rags
10-27-2003, 11:37 AM
that's a nice history lesson.

Jolyon
10-27-2003, 11:43 AM
It's never been the same since they outlawed the human sacrifice bit :(

upliftdisco365
10-27-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
UK Autumn celebration is called bonfire night. UK people let fireworks off and burn an efigy of a catholic who tried to bomb the houses of parliament.

So what is Halloween ? Yeah. And what do Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies have to do with the resurrection of Christ? Maybe this one's obvious, but I don't see it....

shannoneileen
10-27-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
It's never been the same since they outlawed the human sacrifice bit :( lmao...
i need to start coming to dhp more often...
i haven't laughed so hard in a long, long time...


i never knew the origins of All Hallow's Eve...
i thought that it was a celebration of the gateway between life and death... in a positive way... not scaring away spirits but communing with them...

live and learn...

Martin Red
10-27-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Rob.J:
A villager, deemed by appearance or mannerism to be already possessed, could be sacrificed in the fire as a lesson to other spirits contemplating human possession.
that could be the pochine or Guinness ;)

Martin Red
10-27-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
UK Autumn celebration is called bonfire night. UK people let fireworks off and burn an efigy of a catholic who tried to bomb the houses of parliament.

So what is Halloween ? Yeah. And what do Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies have to do with the resurrection of Christ? Maybe this one's obvious, but I don't see it.... </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/focking.gif


"Fertilty" appears to be the reason for alot of European traditions

E g g s

Of all the symbols associated with Easter the egg, the symbol of fertility and new life, is the most identifiable. The customs and traditions of using eggs have been associated with Easter for centuries
Originally Easter eggs were painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring and were used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts. After they were colored and etched with various designs the eggs were exchanged by lovers and romantic admirers, much the same as valentines. In medieval time eggs were traditionally given at Easter to the servants. In Germany eggs were given to children along with other Easter gifts

The Easter bunny

The Easter bunny has its origin in pre-Christian fertility lore. The Hare and the Rabbit were the most fertile animals known and they served as symbols of the new life during the Spring season.
The bunny as an Easter symbol seems to have it's origins in Germany, where it was first mentioned in German writings in the 1500s. The first edible Easter bunnies were made in Germany during the early 1800s. And were made of pastry and sugar

The Easter bunny was introduced to American folklore by the German settlers who arrived in the Pennsylvania Dutch country during the 1700s. The arrival of the "Oschter Haws" was considered "childhood's greatest pleasure" next to a visit from Christ-Kindel on Christmas Eve. The children believed that if they were good the "Oschter Haws" would lay a nest of colored eggs.

The children would build their nest in a secluded place in the home, the barn or the garden. Boys would use their caps and girls their bonnets to make the nests . The use of elaborate Easter baskets would come later as the tradition of the Easter bunny spread through out the country.


Easter

Scholars, accepting the derivation proposed by the 8th-century English scholar St. Bede, believe the name Easter is thought to come from the Scandinavian "Ostra" and the Teutonic "Ostern" or "Eastre," both Goddesses of mythology signifying spring and fertility whose festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox

Traditions associated with the festival survive in the Easter rabbit, a symbol of fertility, and in colored easter eggs, originally painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring, and used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts

The Christian celebration of Easter embodies a number of converging traditions with emphasis on the relation of Easter to the Jewish festival of Passover, or Pesach, from which is derived Pasch, another name used by Europeans for Easter. Passover is an important feast in the Jewish calendar which is celebrated for 8 days and commemorates the flight and freedom of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt

eileen
10-27-2003, 01:29 PM
i don't know about anyone else, but i'm celebrating candy, fun, and childhood. smile.gif

upliftdisco365
10-27-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
UK Autumn celebration is called bonfire night. UK people let fireworks off and burn an efigy of a catholic who tried to bomb the houses of parliament.

So what is Halloween ? Yeah. And what do Easter eggs and chocolate bunnies have to do with the resurrection of Christ? Maybe this one's obvious, but I don't see it.... </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/focking.gif


"Fertilty" appears to be the reason for alot of European traditions

E g g s

Of all the symbols associated with Easter the egg, the symbol of fertility and new life, is the most identifiable. The customs and traditions of using eggs have been associated with Easter for centuries
Originally Easter eggs were painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring and were used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts. After they were colored and etched with various designs the eggs were exchanged by lovers and romantic admirers, much the same as valentines. In medieval time eggs were traditionally given at Easter to the servants. In Germany eggs were given to children along with other Easter gifts

The Easter bunny

The Easter bunny has its origin in pre-Christian fertility lore. The Hare and the Rabbit were the most fertile animals known and they served as symbols of the new life during the Spring season.
The bunny as an Easter symbol seems to have it's origins in Germany, where it was first mentioned in German writings in the 1500s. The first edible Easter bunnies were made in Germany during the early 1800s. And were made of pastry and sugar

The Easter bunny was introduced to American folklore by the German settlers who arrived in the Pennsylvania Dutch country during the 1700s. The arrival of the "Oschter Haws" was considered "childhood's greatest pleasure" next to a visit from Christ-Kindel on Christmas Eve. The children believed that if they were good the "Oschter Haws" would lay a nest of colored eggs.

The children would build their nest in a secluded place in the home, the barn or the garden. Boys would use their caps and girls their bonnets to make the nests . The use of elaborate Easter baskets would come later as the tradition of the Easter bunny spread through out the country.


Easter

Scholars, accepting the derivation proposed by the 8th-century English scholar St. Bede, believe the name Easter is thought to come from the Scandinavian "Ostra" and the Teutonic "Ostern" or "Eastre," both Goddesses of mythology signifying spring and fertility whose festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox

Traditions associated with the festival survive in the Easter rabbit, a symbol of fertility, and in colored easter eggs, originally painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring, and used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts

The Christian celebration of Easter embodies a number of converging traditions with emphasis on the relation of Easter to the Jewish festival of Passover, or Pesach, from which is derived Pasch, another name used by Europeans for Easter. Passover is an important feast in the Jewish calendar which is celebrated for 8 days and commemorates the flight and freedom of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt </font>[/QUOTE]Very informative, Martin. Thanks.

DJ Michael Terzian (Sinister)
10-27-2003, 04:45 PM
a celebration of wickedness.

I don't promote hallowe'en.

sammyrock
10-27-2003, 06:01 PM
Its Halloweed...and we celebrate a night to smoke weed and get high,another excuse to poison out souls.Also a great day to get candy and become future diabetics..to wear ridick-culous outfits and be someone other than ourselfs for one day..Jeez what a waste..Anyway Trick or Treat..the Devil is coming...lol lol :D