PDA

View Full Version : Gen. Tommy Franks Quits Army To Purse Solo Bombing Projects



mdpm99
06-11-2003, 08:48 AM
WASHINGTON, DC—Gen. Tommy Franks, commander of American forces in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, announced plans Monday to step down as U.S. Central Command chief to focus on solo bombing projects.


Above: Gen. Franks tells reporters, "It's time for me to see what I can destroy on my own."
"The years I've spent with the Army have been amazing, and we did some fantastic bombing," said Franks at a Pentagon press conference. "But at this point, I feel like I've taken it as far as I can. It's time for me to move on and see what I can destroy on my own."

Franks said he is eager to seek out new challenges.

"Obviously, the U.S. Army is a first-rate organization," Franks said. "I mean, when we were on, no one could touch us. The '91 Gulf tour, the '95 Bosnia campaign... we kicked some serious ass. But it's precisely because I love it so much that I want to leave before it starts to get stale."

Franks said he also relishes the notion of having more creative freedom.

"When you're in an army, you pretty much have to bomb the countries they tell you to bomb," Franks said. "Which is fine for a while. But eventually, you get tired of bombing the same old places again and again. The last thing I want is to be 70 years old, still bombing Iraq. It's important to keep things fresh."

Asked to comment on rumors that he plans to launch a tour of the Far East, Franks said he will announce his first solo tour of duty later this month. He did mention, however, that he has "always wanted to bomb China," but that his work with the U.S. Army afforded him little time to do so.

Elaborating on his dissatisfaction with the Army, Franks said that the vast scale of U.S. military operations, while exciting at first, eventually became a turn-off.

"It just got to be so big," Franks said. "You had these massive campaigns, with soldiers and generals and tech crews and medical staffs and reporters and maintenance engineers and all these other people. It was such an elaborate production. I guess I just felt like, somewhere along the way, we got away from what it was all about. We forgot the thing we all got into it for in the first place: the killing."

Franks said he is eager to strip down the warmaking experience to its purest essence.


Above: Franks rocks Baghdad during the recent Operation Iraqi Freedom tour.
"I'd really like to get back to my roots," Franks said. "It's exciting to put on a big show with M1 Abrams tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, and AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, but I got my first combat experience as an artillery officer in Vietnam. Part of me really misses being out there in the swamps, just one man and a howitzer."

"My years with the military have been the best of my life," Franks continued. "But when you're at the head of a group, you're always considering the entire unit's best interests. Even though you're the leader, it can be very stifling. If you get the urge to bomb India or Brazil, you can't just go off and do it."

While he was under contract with the U.S. government, Franks occasionally expressed displeasure over having to seek approval from the president and Congress for nearly every action he performed.

"If I want to send a division of jet fighters to Iran, you'd think, after all the years I've been doing this, that I could simply make that decision," Franks told reporters during a CentCom press briefing in February. "But it's not like that."

In spite of Franks' claim that the decision to leave the army was his, some military insiders suspect otherwise.

"Franks says he quit, but I think that's bullshit," said CNN Pentagon correspondent James Washburn. "He got kicked out. Why else would he be leaving the best military in the entire world right after their triumphant Middle East tour?"

Franks' relationships with certain key Bush Administration figures were "less than perfect," Washburn said.

"You always got the feeling that [Donald] Rumsfeld and Franks never really got along when the cameras were off," Washburn said. "Franks always felt like he was in the shadow of Norman Schwarzkopf, the far more charismatic general who commanded U.S. forces in the 1991 Gulf War."

Like Franks, Schwarzkopf left the army with plans to pursue a solo career, though a lackluster raid on a Japanese fishing village and a poorly received attack on the Dominican Republic led to the cancellation of a number of solo bombing dates in the Balkans.

"Schwarzkopf influenced me greatly," Franks said. "I would be honored to work with him in the future, should he care to collaborate with me outside of the confines of the U.S. Army."

Though Franks said he is "excited and energized" by his future prospects as a solo artist, disappointed fans say the U.S. Army will not be the same without him.

"He wasn't flashy, but he was the backbone of that group," said Marty Nevins of Valdosta, GA. "No one will ever forget that moment when he decided to launch a massive ground assault on Baghdad rather than engage in a prolonged air campaign. That's just good old-fashioned, meat-and-potatoes invading. None of this fancy shock-and-awe shit. They can bring in somebody else, but I don't think that group's gonna be the same with a new frontman."

DJ CHRIS PURTELL
06-11-2003, 09:41 AM
David,

I hate to have to ask this question.....is this for real?

lesysteme
06-11-2003, 09:48 AM
maybe not ut funny nonetheless.

what is real is that AP released their unoffical Iraqi civilian death toll for the month long war yesterday.


they came in at about 3,400. and then the article went on to say that that was only hospital reported deaths and most likely the number is much higher because, many of the families buried their dead right away as per muslim tradition instead of goin to the hospital etc

Dolemite73
06-11-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by lesysteme:
maybe not ut funny nonetheless.

what is real is that AP released their unoffical Iraqi civilian death toll for the month long war yesterday.


they came in at about 3,400. and then the article went on to say that that was only hospital reported deaths and most likely the number is much higher because, many of the families buried their dead right away as per muslim tradition instead of goin to the hospital etc I hate to say it but we killed WAY more than that over there. Try at least 10,000. But the sad part about it is that most of those deaths were not preventable. The way Saddam deployed his forces(in schools, mosques, residential areas) made it practically impossible to avoid killing civilians. That and the fact that the guerilla forces(Saddam Fedeyeen) over there used women and children as shields made it hard to not kill them. Also, the Saddam Fedeyeen killed lots of civilians. There was this woman who waved at a US convoy over there and as soon as the convoy passed thru, some guerillas shother. There were also numerous reports of Baath party officials shooting civilians in the head in the Iraqi city of Suq Ash Shuyukh. And before you question what I am saying, I saw most of this with my own eyes.

mdpm99
06-11-2003, 10:38 AM
opps!......I left out the link.

biggrinangel.gif

d

Ps Have a great day.

lesysteme
06-11-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Dolemite73:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by lesysteme:
maybe not ut funny nonetheless.

what is real is that AP released their unoffical Iraqi civilian death toll for the month long war yesterday.


they came in at about 3,400. and then the article went on to say that that was only hospital reported deaths and most likely the number is much higher because, many of the families buried their dead right away as per muslim tradition instead of goin to the hospital etc I hate to say it but we killed WAY more than that over there. Try at least 10,000. But the sad part about it is that most of those deaths were not preventable. The way Saddam deployed his forces(in schools, mosques, residential areas) made it practically impossible to avoid killing civilians. That and the fact that the guerilla forces(Saddam Fedeyeen) over there used women and children as shields made it hard to not kill them. Also, the Saddam Fedeyeen killed lots of civilians. There was this woman who waved at a US convoy over there and as soon as the convoy passed thru, some guerillas shother. There were also numerous reports of Baath party officials shooting civilians in the head in the Iraqi city of Suq Ash Shuyukh. And before you question what I am saying, I saw most of this with my own eyes. </font>[/QUOTE]right cool. so the next time we invade a country for no real reason, atleast we know what we're getting ourselves into.

thanks for the heads up.

lesysteme
06-11-2003, 12:22 PM
hope you saw this too.

http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2458&version=1&template_id=277&parent_id=258

mdpm99
06-11-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by lesysteme:
hope you saw this too.

http://english.aljazeera.net/topics/article.asp?cu_no=1&item_no=2458&version=1&template_id=277&parent_id=258 Greetings lesysteme:

me having a prob getting it to download....

d

lesysteme
06-11-2003, 02:09 PM
try this:)


Rumsfeld cracks jokes, but Iraqis aren't laughing

Lawrence Smallman



At a Pentagon briefing, the US defence secretary faced questions about the rapidly deteriorating security situation, amid calls by aid agencies to allow them to do their job.



“Stuff happens,” came the Rumsfeld reply.




U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld jokes while Baghdad suffers

"It's untidy. And freedom's untidy. And free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things," his adroit fingers this time pointing at no particular member of the press. Lawlessness, closed hospitals and fires burning in Baghdad and other cities are a freed people venting their frustrations, apparently.



If ever an Oscar was deserved for minimizing catastrophic reports coming out of Iraq with jocular "henny penny" disbelief, then Rumsfeld has a date with Hollywood.



“Television is merely running the same footage of the same man stealing a vase over and over,” he joked, adding he didn't think there were that many vases in Iraq. The US may be the strongest nation in the world, but their history is incomparable to that of Iraq – a region that has been described as the cradle of civilization.



Flippant remarks cannot replace priceless artefacts that have disappeared from the National Museum in Baghdad, or the books of the University of Mosul – one of the oldest and best universities in the whole of the Middle East.



But Secretary Rumsfeld has "a lot of confidence in the American people" not to believe TV footage from Iraq. Widespread theft across Iraq, reported in every language on screens worldwide, is an acceptable expression of freedom and really just the same picture shown again and again, he claimed. Meanwhile, Al Jazeera correspondents in Tikrit, Mosul, Basra and Baghdad confirm that US troops are still just watching looters steal private property and destroy any feelings of public safety.



The International Committee of the Red Cross and World Health Organizations issued appeals today to the US and British military to restore order, as the Geneva Convention requires.



US and British commanders say they don't have the troops to do this, or play a policing role. President Bush reinforced Rumsfeld's view on Friday, saying that "out of chaos that takes place there now ... the Iraqi people will run their own country."



"I reminded them that war in Iraq is really about peace," said Bush. "This victory in Iraq, when it happens, will make the world more peaceful." Iraqis who have been starved by sanctions for 12 years, bombed for three weeks and now robbed for three days must be beginning to wonder when this peace will begin.



"Tommy tells us what is necessary to achieve the objective. We gave Tommy the tools necessary to win," said Bush. "And when Tommy says we've achieved our objectives, that's when we've achieved our objectives. The war will end when Tommy says we've achieved our objectives.'' Let’s hope Tommy decides to impose some law and order soon.



"Freedom is a gift from the Almighty God," President Bush added, failing to define what General Frank’s objectives were, when asked.



At the Pentagon, Secretary Rumsfeld said the US does feel an obligation to assist in providing security: "We're looking for the police" in Iraqi towns and villages, he added. Concerns expressed before the war look likely to be fulfilled, those best able to police Iraq now might be those who have had the most experience – namely Ba’athists and supporters of the old regime. Calling into question, the logic of much of the war.



Appeals for quick solutions may exacerbate a terrible problem. US troops "should be doing something because (the chaos) destroys our image as the liberators and the people who are going to bring a new order to Iraq," foreign affairs analyst Ivo Daalder of the Brookings Institution in Washington. It’s not nice for Iraqi civilians either.



There has been some crucial action to bring peace. Central Command in Qatar said it was issuing decks of `Saddam regime' cards to troops to help them spot Saddam and his supporters – showing a US-blacklisted 55 personalities. The American military has also rushed to dispatch 2,000 troops to secure northern Iraq's oilfields, which will alleviate Turkish political concerns – though probably not aid Kurdish interests.



The Pentagon has also been busy, admitting yesterday that it had awarded - without competition - a contract worth up to $7 billion, to the subsidiary of a company run until three years ago by Vice-President Dick Cheney.



Democrat Representative Henry Waxman of California, from the government reform committee, called for an investigation into the deal with oil services giant Halliburton, saying he could understand the contract if it had been issued in an emergency.



"But it's harder to understand what the rationale would be for a sole-source contract that has a multi-year duration and multi-billion-dollar price tag," he said. --Al Jazeera

mdpm99
06-11-2003, 02:44 PM
Thank you lesysteme smile.gif

d