I love NYC,But....

[Jamie 3:26]

Your pizza sucks!That was some of the worst pizza I have eaten.That stuff is pure cardboard with sauce and cheese.I was just thinking about it this morning.Guess what I'm gonna have for lunch? ;)

Chicago deep dish rules....

[D J 1 3 8]

:rolleyes:

please...

[GROOVE VICTIM]

How many Pizza parlors are in NYC alone?

WHO KNOWS!!! Not all the shops in NYC are great.

Jamie, try moving down here and eating the shittiest pizza on the planet. These fools think they're eating pizza but they're eating proccessed nonsence from a plant.

I'd take a shitty Pizza in NYC over any Pizza in the south anyday!!!


Peace

[Jamie 3:26]

C'mon dude,you know that is a terrible thing to do to someone.Give em cardboard and call it pizza...

[Tony Cano]

i remember my first time in nyc. i was staying @ millford across the street from famous rays pizza. talk about dissappointing.

tc

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
How many Pizza parlors are in NYC alone?

WHO KNOWS!!! Not all the shops in NYC are great.

Jamie, try moving down here and eating the shittiest pizza on the planet. These fools think they're eating pizza but they're eating proccessed nonsence from a plant.

I'd take a shitty Pizza in NYC over any Pizza in the south anyday!!!


Peace Groove,I have spent time in the south,they don't have good pizza either.I had to choose between that and Crystal's fake ass burgers.I feel for ya Groove.

[Ken1015]

No one does pizza like Chicago. There was one spot on Houston St. that had good slices. I looked for it but it was gone the last I visited NY.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

YOu guys are used to that Deep Dish thing I guess.

[Mack-Williams]

I think I am going to have some deepdish for lunch.

[Tony Cano]

actually, i take that back. i found a couple of good spots.

1. sabarros in mid town is pretty cool,
2. joint accross the street from the church near vinylmania is cool too.
3. there is small family own pizza joint in mid town that is very good too, but have not been able to find it my past two trips to nyc. i wonder if they went under? forgot the name.

[Bold Soul]

Los Angeles pizza is absolutely BLASPHEMOUS. I found the one joint in Los Feliz that has a bit better than average, tolerably better, and even there, it's hit or miss depending upon who is in the kitchen.

What's worse, LA people are so far west, to them EVERYTHING is BACK EAST.

"This pizza sucks! I've got to get some Chicago pizza in me fast." "Oh...you're from BACK EAST too?" "Uh...naw. I'm from CHICAGO. You know, the Chicago that ruined Pat Ewing. That Chicago." "Yea, that's what I said... BACK EAST." "Shut up and eat your counterfeit New York pizza."

[GROOVE VICTIM]

The pizza down here is nothing but bread cheese a something they think is tomato sause.

Before I went on my diet, the only pizza I would buy was a big New Yorker from Pizza Hut, and that was shitty too.

You can't even get a coke and a slice down here without people lookin at you like you're cheap or somethin.

[Jamie 3:26]

I was surprised at the wide menu range at Sbarro's in NYC.I was satying in Times Square and hit that spot a few times one of my trips.

I'm nt a deepdish pizza guy all of the time,but I like a lil sauce on my thin crust.I will be on a hunt my next trip up there.Give us out of towners the places to get a good slice in NYC...

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by tcano:
actually, i take that back. i found a couple of good spots.

1. sabarros in mid town is pretty cool,
2. joint accross the street from the church near vinylmania is cool too.
3. there is small family own pizza joint in mid town that is very good too, but have not been able to find it my past two trips to nyc. i wonder if they went under? forgot the name. There's a spot down from Dance Tracks that I frequent when I'm up there but it's not the best. But it feels damn good to have a nice fresh slice with the works included.

[Oak Pk, IL's Best Bedroom DJ, serge]

They're hot dogs ain't good, either. Nuthin' like a good vienna beef, piled with onions, tomato, peppers, cucumber salt...

Mmm-mmm, good!

Cain't beat a Chicago-style Polish or Hot Dog!

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Los Angeles pizza is absolutely BLASPHEMOUS. I found the one joint in Los Feliz that has a bit better than average, tolerably better, and even there, it's hit or miss depending upon who is in the kitchen.

What's worse, LA people are so far west, to them EVERYTHING is BACK EAST.

"This pizza sucks! I've got to get some Chicago pizza in me fast." "Oh...you're from BACK EAST too?" "Uh...naw. I'm from CHICAGO. You know, the Chicago that ruined Pat Ewing. That Chicago." "Yea, that's what I said... BACK EAST." "Shut up and eat your counterfeit New York pizza." There's a spot up in Berklee that made good pizzas. Nice large slices and the cheeze was thick!!

[ultra]

Frank's on Fulton Street in BKNY is the shiznit...shut yo mouth Jamiekins! graemlins/tongueout.gif

[Fletch]

For Those who want good pizza in NYC:

1) Lombardi's
2) Puglia's
3) Any pizza shop in Sheepshead Bay, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst, Brooklyn.

Peace.

[herb martin]

Originally posted by: tcano

2. joint accross the street from the church near vinylmania is cool too.
The Joint across from the church at the corner of Carmine & Bleecker is "Joe's Pizza" and yes the Pizza is slammin' (most dayz) and yes it is regular or thin crust pizza (sorry Jamie) but their Pizza is da bomb!!! hail.gif

Peace, Muzik & Pizza 4 all,
Herb graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[ultra]

Oh hell yeaaaaaaah, Joe's Pizza baby!

[lola desire]

there's a place in penn station that is in eye-shot of the waiting area for the LIRR train... best crust (on a regular pizza) i've ever tasted. light and crispy, but with enough substance so you feel like you've actually eaten. i know the locals probably thought i was weird when i didn't fold the slice... just can't get with that part.

[Jamie 3:26]

That's all good ya'll.Thanks for the spots.Ultra and Herb,I will peep out that spot in BK.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

YO I remember I was at Franks Lounge last year and I smelled the essense of Italian Sausage, Green Peppers and Onions near by. I don't know if that was a restaurant or someone's house but damn it smelled great!!!

Peace

[TAC]

Originally posted by einnod23:
For Those who want good pizza in NYC:
3) Any pizza shop in Sheepshead Bay, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst, Brooklyn.

Peace. There ya go.

Also, Jamie is comparing deep dish to regular pizza thin sliced pizza.

Also the demagraphics of New York is changing. The Italians are not making pizza anymore. We have mexicans and all kind of new immigrants making the stuff :rolleyes: . For the real stuuf you need to go to the Italian neighborhoods listed above.

Peace
TAC

[Doug]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Your pizza sucks!That was some of the worst pizza I have eaten.That stuff is pure cardboard with sauce and cheese.I was just thinking about it this morning.Guess what I'm gonna have for lunch? ;)

Chicago deep dish rules.... You trippin'! Deep dish is aight, but nothing beats a nice slice of thin crust NY style pizza. I'd give my left arm for a slice right now. Mmmmm... :D

[Gojay]

Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
For Those who want good pizza in NYC:
3) Any pizza shop in Sheepshead Bay, Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst, Brooklyn.

Peace. There ya go.

Also, Jamie is comparing deep dish to regular pizza thin sliced pizza.

Also the demagraphics of New York is changing. The Italians are not making pizza anymore. We have mexicans and all kind of new immigrants making the stuff :rolleyes: . For the real stuuf you need to go to the Italian neighborhoods listed above.

Peace
TAC </font>[/QUOTE]yep or a pizza shop that has an Italian owner who gives a F**k about how it is made. Athough I do love Uno's from time to time.

peace,
gojay

[formerly known as kenspank]

some people swear by giordano's but.....
i'm going to have to say that pizzeria uno and due are slices above the rest. back in the day, legend has it that the owners had black women in the back making their deep dish pizza. yall know black women can cook! and they make pizza too! they put their feet up in that pizza!!!

chicago style rules.
go cubs!

[ June 09, 2003, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: kenspank ]

[der geile hund]

Chicago food culture = dough & dairy product overload.

[Walter M. Jones]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
How many Pizza parlors are in NYC alone?

WHO KNOWS!!! Not all the shops in NYC are great.

Jamie, try moving down here and eating the shittiest pizza on the planet. These fools think they're eating pizza but they're eating proccessed nonsence from a plant.

I'd take a shitty Pizza in NYC over any Pizza in the south anyday!!!


Peace Groove,I have spent time in the south,they don't have good pizza either.I had to choose between that and Crystal's fake ass burgers.I feel for ya Groove. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh yea? Well let's see if you guys up there can fix anything near the quality of seafood hat we have down here ;) . Well,you are right Jamie. BOTH Chi and NY have great pizza. I think it is a matter of where you get it from. I got a pizza from Giodonno's(sp?) in Chicago once and the toppings tasted like it had been sitting out for a week. Although everywhere else was good. But I love the Hot Dogs in Chicago. I had some really good pizza in New York and some bad. I had a really good ho dog in NY,but different than Chicago. All the pizza and hot dogs up there beat the crap out of anywhere else in the world though. Peace.

[ June 09, 2003, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Walter M. Jones ]

[JL]

Pizzeria Ora's in Chicago is amazing - I had about 5 heart attacks right after I ate there though. NYC style pizza is nice too, as long as they use good ingredients and have a real wood burning brick oven.

[Tony Cano]

Originally posted by Doug:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Your pizza sucks!That was some of the worst pizza I have eaten.That stuff is pure cardboard with sauce and cheese.I was just thinking about it this morning.Guess what I'm gonna have for lunch? ;)

Chicago deep dish rules.... You trippin'! Deep dish is aight, but nothing beats a nice slice of thin crust NY style pizza. I'd give my left arm for a slice right now. Mmmmm... :D </font>[/QUOTE]i can see the SK boys all over this........

[Ken1015]

One time I picked up a friend who moved from here (Chicago) to NY from the airport and the very first thing he asked me to do was take him to Taylor St. for an Italian beef and an Italian ice. I was shocked when he told me that NY didn't know good Italian beef.

[manfred]

i love chicago deep dish, but i hate their thin crust. what's up with the rectangular cut pieces?

btw, the best pizza in new york is across the river...in jerzee! graemlins/acclaim.gif

GO NETS!

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by manfred:
i love chicago deep dish, but i hate their thin crust. what's up with the rectangular cut pieces?

btw, the best pizza in new york is across the river...in jerzee! graemlins/acclaim.gif

GO NETS! The retangular ones are Cisilian style, they're good too.

Peace

[daniel]

who the hell is going to sbarro's? that place sucks.

gino's - corner of flatbush and bergen. real italians (like, crying during the last world cup and all). sickest pizza ever.

[larry rauson]

Befor you guys complain about any pizza, have some in London, or even worse, France, then reopen this thread.

Larry

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by larry rauson:
Befor you guys complain about any pizza, have some in London, or even worse, France, then reopen this thread.

Larry How about some deep-fried pizza in Scotland. graemlins/rofl.gif

[larry rauson]

When I was in kindergarten, I had a thing for paste, and green crayons...thats English pizza, except the green crayon had a lil more spice to it. The French make it with wine in the sauce, truffles, and sourdough bread...just nasty

Larry

[ June 09, 2003, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: larry rauson ]

[Skip Intro]

I lived there for 7 years and never really found a decent pizzaria. Some were obviously better than others but never found one that really did it for me. They make the shit real soggy there and New Yorkers must like that sh*t hot too because I'd be blowing on the slice for like 10 minutes. And you lift up and the chesse slides right off. And everybody raves about Joe's in the Village like it's some institution or something. That stuff was wack.

[Moksha]

Tottonno's in Coney Island is really good.

Last time I was in Chicago, I went to some Pizza joint where you could write on anything (tables, chairs, walls, etc.)

Supposedly, they were supposed to have the best pizza in Chicago.

That shit was DISGUSTING! A big ugly pile of greese, cheese and dough. (Doug would have loved it). No flavor at all. Are there no Italians in Chicago?

One piece filled me up for 24 hours...and made me nauseous for a week. graemlins/puke.gif

No wonder everybody in Chicago was so fat.

[nev m]

My other half raves about Chicago pizza been the shit, and it is really good but to me pizza is pizza. Granted some are better than others but I can't really get too excited about it.

There was a little place in NY called Rays by Cafe Habana which served wicked pizza as good as any I have had, but the only thing I have to compare it to is Perfect Pizza, and Pizza Hut so I am no real judge.

One thing I do know is y'all love your junk food, and you are very defensive of your home treats! It's a bit like we are over fish, and chips. There's loadsa fish n' chip shops here but only a few do them well.

From Chicago I loved that cheesy popcorn it's Le bomb,

[ June 09, 2003, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: nev m ]

[Jamie 3:26]

A place where I had the strangest pizza...Belgium.The way they make pizza,makes a NY slice look like deepdish pizza.

[Wild i]

Actually, it seems to me that the Mexicans make the best pies in NYC these days. I, personally, do not like Chicago deep ish. In fact, the one time I had it authentically (in Chi) ruin mozerella for me for life. I can now only eat it in small quantities. I can't even eat cheese sticks.

The neighborhood pizzaria is gonna be your best bet. Forget the chains (Domino's, Pizza Hut, even Sbarros -- which I find too greasy). I agree that Ray's was a disappointment, as was Ray Bari's. But again I say, chains are not the best.

I also agree about Southern Pizza. Haven't found any yet that was worth the price.

Sorry to those who don't like NYC Pizza, but that just leaves more for us.

I suppose you don't like Jamaican patties either.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by Wild i:
Actually, it seems to me that the Mexicans make the best pies in NYC these days. I, personally, do not like Chicago deep ish. In fact, the one time I had it authentically (in Chi) ruin mozerella for me for life. I can now only eat it in small quantities. I can't even eat cheese sticks.

The neighborhood pizzaria is gonna be your best bet. Forget the chains (Domino's, Pizza Hut, even Sbarros -- which I find too greasy). I agree that Ray's was a disappointment, as was Ray Bari's. But again I say, chains are not the best.

I also agree about Southern Pizza. Haven't found any yet that was worth the price.

Sorry to those who don't like NYC Pizza, but that just leaves more for us.

I suppose you don't like Jamaican patties either. Mel,I LOVE patties!I do have a preferance,I prefer the golden colored ones,to the orange ones.

I actually ate a pattie a day,when I was in Jamaica for my honeymoon.

[Wild i]

BTW I hear the worst pizza is made in Italy.

[nev m]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
A place where I had the strangest pizza...Belgium.The way they make pizza,makes a NY slice look like deepdish pizza. It wasn't a Turkish pizza by any chance was it? We had one in Ghent even the shape was different, nice though. One of Red Ds haunts.

[ June 09, 2003, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: nev m ]

[Jamie 3:26]

Nev,I don't know where in the hell Lyot got it from.All I know is it was shaped messed up and had a smugent of sauce and cheese.It was more like a damn tortilla than pizza.

[nev m]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Nev,I don't know where in the hell Lyot got it from.All I know is it was shaped messed up and had a smugent of sauce and cheese.It was more like a damn tortilla than pizza. That's gotta be it!! I was going on, and on to Red D how I like to full when I've eaten by the time I left I could hardly walk, and you're right the pizza's unique!

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by Orion:
Tottonno's in Coney Island is really good.

Last time I was in Chicago, I went to some Pizza joint where you could write on anything (tables, chairs, walls, etc.)

Supposedly, they were supposed to have the best pizza in Chicago.

That shit was DISGUSTING! A big ugly pile of greese, cheese and dough. (Doug would have loved it). No flavor at all. Are there no Italians in Chicago?

One piece filled me up for 24 hours...and made me nauseous for a week. graemlins/puke.gif

No wonder everybody in Chicago was so fat. That's Geno's East. It's a Chicago institution and them's fightin' words so put up your dukes. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/fight.gif

We go to the one near the house for family night at least once a month. It's always been one of my favorites and now the kids love it.

[Eric Miles]

My favorite.........

http://www.giordanos.com/

[Fletch]

Oh, yeah, Olive Vine in Park Slope, Brooklyn (Middle Eastern Pizza) is the bomb. Three Locations in Park Slope. Love the Lamb platter. Peace.

As far as the brick oven pizzas:
Best Overall: Puglia's
Best Toppings: Lombardi's
Best Tomato Sauce and Cheese: Tottono's, Grimaldi's
Best Pictures On The Wall:
--Grimaldi's (Frank Sinatra pics)
--Tottono's (Brooklyn Dodger, WWI photos)


Slipping: John's (in the Village)

[ June 09, 2003, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: einnod23 ]

[Skip Intro]

Gulliver's on Howard is good too.

[lesysteme]

a good cheese slice in NYC is serously the bomb.


once you had it, your hooked..no joke

[rob brito]

Originally posted by Wild i:
Actually, it seems to me that the Mexicans make the best pies in NYC these days.the one on houston or somewhere close to it by the west side!!

thin crust...bbaaad. i'm hungry yo.

[DOTSmusic]

i have had both horrible and excellent pizza in New York. just like i have had the same thing happen here in Chicago. but one thing is for certain i've never had tastier Sicilian slices than when i was in New York.
that shit was delicious.

[liL Ray]

Jamie, you know that was sacreligious dissing NYC pizza....I just read the first part of the post and you obviously was hanging out with the wrong culinary hoe when you were in the NYC!!!

Oh, that deep dish pie...WTF is that!!!??? You got to eat your pizza with a knife and fork? not good!

Nobody told you of Grimaldi's under the Brooklyn bridge? How about Not Ray's Pizza on Fulton St. in Brooklyn?

Next time you want pizza and you are in the city, call me....can't have you dissing the city like that.

[Wild i]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Jamie, you know that was sacreligious dissing NYC pizza....I just read the first part of the post and you obviously was hanging out with the wrong culinary hoe when you were in the NYC!!!

Oh, that deep dish pie...WTF is that!!!??? You got to eat your pizza with a knife and fork? not good!

Nobody told you of Grimaldi's under the Brooklyn bridge? How about Not Ray's Pizza on Fulton St. in Brooklyn?

Next time you want pizza and you are in the city, call me....can't have you dissing the city like that. And you know Ray knows food! You tell 'em, Ray.

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Jamie, you know that was sacreligious dissing NYC pizza....I just read the first part of the post and you obviously was hanging out with the wrong culinary hoe when you were in the NYC!!!

Oh, that deep dish pie...WTF is that!!!??? You got to eat your pizza with a knife and fork? not good!

Nobody told you of Grimaldi's under the Brooklyn bridge? How about Not Ray's Pizza on Fulton St. in Brooklyn?

Next time you want pizza and you are in the city, call me....can't have you dissing the city like that. At least I didn't dis Shelter...HA! biggrinangel.gif

I have heard some of the spots to hit.Thanks folks for pointing out the spots to go.I was hitting pizza joints in the Bronx.Seems like BK is the place to be.I didn't hang tough in Bk,only partied.

[Wild i]

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
[QUOTE]

I have heard some of the spots to hit.Thanks folks for pointing out the spots to go.I was hitting pizza joints in the Bronx.Seems like BK is the place to be.I didn't hang tough in Bk,only partied. Um, excuse me, but we have some pretty decent pizza in Da Bronx, too.

[herb martin]

Originally posted by: JAMIE 3:26

I was hitting pizza joints in the Bronx.Seems like BK is the place to be. AAAAYY OOOHHH!!!! Whadaya mean no good Pizza joints in da Bronx, AAYY Jamie fuggetaboutit whadaya Krazzy Try Arthur Ave. (Bx. Little Italy) or Nick's Pizza...Gun hill Road to name 2.

No disrespect to BK Pizza but I'm a Bronx native,

Pizza & Muzik,
Herb graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[ June 09, 2003, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Herb Martin ]

[alex zen]

i've had good pizza in ny (somewhere by the whitney) but you can't beat chicago. the best and strangest pizza in chicago is from chicago pizza and oven grinder co. http://www.chicagopizzaandovengrinder.com/ "The Pizza Pot Pie is an individual serving, "made from scratch" with triple-raised Sicilian bread-type dough; a homemade sauce consisting of olive oil, fresh garlic, onions, green peppers, whole plum tomatoes and a special blend of cheeses; sausage made from prime Boston butts; and doorknob-size, whole, fresh mushrooms. (Vegetarian pizza pot pie may be special ordered.) http://www.chicagopizzaandovengrinder.com/images/new-12-03-01/pizza-small.jpg

[Tony Cano]

Alex - do not tell these folks about that place!

i was there this past friday. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by tcano:
Alex - do not tell these folks about that place!

i was there this past friday. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Go ahead and tell. It isn't like the place can get any more crowded. I refuse to go there later that 3:00 because I'm not waiting two hours for any meal, especially not pizza.

[Tony Cano]

oh my god - i got there this past friday at 6pm and there was no wait. i think the rain had somethingto do with it.

i heard raza's (sp?) downtown is making the pizza pot pies now too. however, i do not think they make the bread. the bread is sick!

tc

[lyot]

Originally posted by nev m:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Nev,I don't know where in the hell Lyot got it from.All I know is it was shaped messed up and had a smugent of sauce and cheese.It was more like a damn tortilla than pizza. That's gotta be it!! I was going on, and on to Red D how I like to full when I've eaten by the time I left I could hardly walk, and you're right the pizza's unique! </font>[/QUOTE]hey Jamie, you had an original Italian Pizza, not a Turkish Pizza.. smile.gif ...I do not remember if it was you or someone else, but I remember the Italian owner of the pizzeria being 'shocked' after we'd ask one pizza with chicken ..(that's a 'no-no' apparently..).. smile.gif

greetings

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Pizza shops in little Italy (http://www.littleitalynyc.com/restaurants.asp)

Historical information on the History of Pizza (http://pizzatherapy.com/historyo.htm)

The Food Network had a nice documentary on American made Pizzas, the story of the first pizza shop opened by Gennaro Lombardi, Chicago style pizzas, and the big chains Pizza Hut and Dominos (BOOOOOOO!! graemlins/rofl.gif ).


It's funny because everytime I drive up to NYC, the moment I hit Manhattan, I'm lookin for some pizza. I do it everytime, park my car and start lookin for some hot pizza. When you're stuck eating the crap we have down south, there's nothing to describe the feeling that comes over me when I take a bite of a York Peppermint....sorry, a nice large slice of pizza!!!


Peace

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Herb Martin:
Originally posted by: tcano
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> 2. joint accross the street from the church near vinylmania is cool too.
The Joint across from the church at the corner of Carmine & Bleecker is "Joe's Pizza" and yes the Pizza is slammin' (most dayz) and yes it is regular or thin crust pizza (sorry Jamie) but their Pizza is da bomb!!! hail.gif

Peace, Muzik & Pizza 4 all,
Herb graemlins/cool_shades.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Im more into the Bar next store, where you can sit outside and drink beers.

[Maria]

Jesû, ya'll ain't right...I feel compelled to post. Most of the pizza in your regular Joe spot leaves something to be desired, its a big compromise, what do you value most? Not enough attention paid to the overwhelming amount of dough (deep dish by definition is not pizza its focaccia) and the disgusting amount of fake mozzarella used! You are supposed to have more tomato sauce than mozzarella! And your sauce, your sauce has to be good. Things like sour/tart tomatoes, tomatoes burnt in a pot etc all can ruin your sauce as well as imbeciles that add sugar to it to take out the tartness of a bad tomato! Hint: most pizzeria joints don't make their sauce they buy it pre-fab so to speak, horrors...check, do they have a kitchen in the back with a stove to make a sauce, if not then they ain't makin it!

When buying by the slice (that's another american thing which has made its way back to Italy!!) you can't control nuttin' but if you are ordering the whole thing watch em' while they make it, help them out, give them some direction. Start by telling them to pull off 1/3 the dough, get rid of it or take it home and make zeppole. When they are stretching the dough it has to go to the END of the pizza pan, and I do mean the end, stretched see-thru thin. Then the sauce drops in the middle and gets spread out to the sides in a CIRCULAR motion, I've seen em drop it and go up and down :( when cooked the ends are crispy, the center should be undercooked, a shade, just a teeny shade raw, its not for the american palate but that's the truth of it. The mozzarella, in moderate amounts, repeat small to moderate amounts should be fresh, if it is fresh its gonna drip liquid therefore diluting the sauce some more, that's a good thing. On TOP of that goes the olive oil, HEARTY full tasting olive oil dripped on with a decanter that has a long, thin, flute-like spout, it controls the amount that lands on your pizza, again in a CIRCULAR motion and that's it. Ok maybe a leaf or two of fresh basil but that's it. All the toppings are relatively new-fangled bells and whistles that mask the fact that they are using a tasteless mozarella, or an oil that is not full bodied or worse yet a bad sauce. Pizza margherita, Neapolitan pizza that's pizza.

I agree that Totonno's in Coney Island on Neptune Ave. (I think around West 15th or 16th..)is made well nuyokah style but they're only open Wed - Sun and not late, maybe till 8pm or so. If you are out for the Mermaid Parade over on the next block (Surf Avenue) on June 21st get your butt in there and have some!

The square thick stuff has its roots in Sicilian pizza rustica and/or focaccia depending how strongly you feel about it, maybe a bunch of Sicialians migrated to Chicago, who knows....it can be made well but again its not pizza Margherita. Dominoes, Pizza Hut etc. I'm speechless, that's not pizza.

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

Oh yeah you didn't like the pizza? Try eating some Jamaican Chinese food from Brooklyn graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, I was being adventerous :eek:

[falko]

Originally posted by Maria:
Jesû, ya'll ain't right...I feel compelled to post. Most of the pizza in your regular Joe spot leaves something to be desired, its a big compromise, what do you value most? Not enough attention paid to the overwhelming amount of dough (deep dish by definition is not pizza its focaccia) and the disgusting amount of fake mozzarella used! You are supposed to have more tomato sauce than mozzarella! And your sauce, your sauce has to be good. Things like sour/tart tomatoes, tomatoes burnt in a pot etc all can ruin your sauce as well as imbeciles that add sugar to it to take out the tartness of a bad tomato! Hint: most pizzeria joints don't make their sauce they buy it pre-fab so to speak, horrors...check, do they have a kitchen in the back with a stove to make a sauce, if not then they ain't makin it!

When buying by the slice (that's another american thing which has made its way back to Italy!!) you can't control nuttin' but if you are ordering the whole thing watch em' while they make it, help them out, give them some direction. Start by telling them to pull off 1/3 the dough, get rid of it or take it home and make zeppole. When they are stretching the dough it has to go to the END of the pizza pan, and I do mean the end, stretched see-thru thin. Then the sauce drops in the middle and gets spread out to the sides in a CIRCULAR motion, I've seen em drop it and go up and down :( when cooked the ends are crispy, the center should be undercooked, a shade, just a teeny shade raw, its not for the american palate but that's the truth of it. The mozzarella, in moderate amounts, repeat small to moderate amounts should be fresh, if it is fresh its gonna drip liquid therefore diluting the sauce some more, that's a good thing. On TOP of that goes the olive oil, HEARTY full tasting olive oil dripped on with a decanter that has a long, thin, flute-like spout, it controls the amount that lands on your pizza, again in a CIRCULAR motion and that's it. Ok maybe a leaf or two of fresh basil but that's it. All the toppings are relatively new-fangled bells and whistles that mask the fact that they are using a tasteless mozarella, or an oil that is not full bodied or worse yet a bad sauce. Pizza margherita, Neapolitan pizza that's pizza.

I agree that Totonno's in Coney Island on Neptune Ave. (I think around West 15th or 16th..)is made well nuyokah style but they're only open Wed - Sun and not late, maybe till 8pm or so. If you are out for the Mermaid Parade over on the next block (Surf Avenue) on June 21st get your butt in there and have some!

The square thick stuff has its roots in Sicilian pizza rustica and/or focaccia depending how strongly you feel about it, maybe a bunch of Sicialians migrated to Chicago, who knows....it can be made well but again its not pizza Margherita. Dominoes, Pizza Hut etc. I'm speechless, that's not pizza. oh wow. excellent post!

whoever thinks NY does not have good pizza is buggin'...

i always liked this spot called PIZZA BOX on bleecker b/w macdougal and sullivan. haven't eaten there in a many years, but, despite the lame name, i remember the pizza as being excellent in a greasy, 4 a.m. kind of way.......

[manfred]

Originally posted by DiscoLady:
Oh yeah you didn't like the pizza? Try eating some Jamaican Chinese food from Brooklyn graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, I was being adventerous :eek: how was it disco lady? there are chinese folks in the carribean...

[kev]

Why is it that everytime I get on this damn page I suddenly find myself hungry?

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

Originally posted by manfred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DiscoLady:
Oh yeah you didn't like the pizza? Try eating some Jamaican Chinese food from Brooklyn graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, I was being adventerous :eek: how was it disco lady? there are chinese folks in the carribean... </font>[/QUOTE]Interesting actually, I am not a big fan of curry. I didn't really know what to expect not bad at all.

I did have pizza from a small kitchen in Brooklyn and it was horrible! The grease from the sausage made me sick graemlins/puke.gif

[Moksha]

Originally posted by kevin koga:
Why is it that everytime I get on this damn page I suddenly find myself hungry? Chicago:
http://www.jack-tompkins.com/Pipes/Shows/Chicago2000/Pizza.jpg

New York:
http://www.provo.net/TopOTheCove/JPEG/0839Pizza216.JPG

http://www.lombardipizza.com/pix/pizza.jpg


Italy:
http://www.slowtrav.com/italy/images/italy_1999/pizza_rome.jpg

[Bill Blake]

TOJ you are a moron. Besides everyone knows the best pizza is in JERZEEEEE not NY.

[Koffy Brown]

http://www.lombardipizza.com/pix/pizza.jpg


I want a piece of this right now...this look sooo good...

[Moksha]

It's from Lombardi's....mmmmmm!

[Koffy Brown]

Wait a minit did I see a pepperoni... graemlins/puke.gif I'll pass....

[Fletch]

I'm sure it's a matter of tastes. I guess I'm biased because I live in NY and I like NY pizza. I will have to go to Chicago to taste Chicago pizza, because the Chicago style made in NY is not all that. The same goes with Cajun food made in New York. I will never eat Cajun outside of New Orleans. Peace.