Is the next dj prodigy in your city?

[liL Ray]

Anybody hearing any 20 and under djs that are truly beating it? I mean the ones that make you shake in your boats because you know this person is the next coming? What's their name? Are they playing in a club or producing music? Any links to the sound?

Please I'm not talking about the average player or those 9 yr.olds that it's a cute thang. I'm talking about 'the real deal'...you know it when you hear it. Just wanna know who are the future icons of the sound. Most of our past icons where this age when they stormed on the scene....not discovered!

Discuss....

[Jacques de Doozu]

me... :D graemlins/rofl.gif
serious, in my city i am. bruges that is. :rolleyes: dr. evil comes second.

[ May 05, 2003, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: Tom D ]

[Keith Blackstone]

I must look under 20 sometimes when I get carded for alcohol... do I count?

[The Donger]

I'm still in my twenties, does that count?

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[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I'm still in my twenties, does that count?

graemlins/bolt.gif Not for long buddy

[Doug]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Anybody hearing any 20 and under djs that are truly beating it? I mean the ones that make you shake in your boats because you know this person is the next coming? What's their name? Are they playing in a club or producing music? Any links to the sound?

Please I'm not talking about the average player or those 9 yr.olds that it's a cute thang. I'm talking about 'the real deal'...you know it when you hear it. Just wanna know who are the future icons of the sound. Most of our past icons where this age when they stormed on the scene....not discovered!

Discuss.... I haven't heard any 20 and under DJs really beating it, but I do see lots of guys in their mid to late twenties coming up strong.

[Tristan]

MR. KICKS in Toronto is the first to come to mind. This kid is a PHENOMENON !!! 15 or 16 years old and killing dancefloors on the regular... don't sleep. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

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[Sean G]

Im just turned 21. Watch yo backs!

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Tristan:
MR. KICKS in Toronto is the first to come to mind. This kid is a PHENOMENON !!! 15 or 16 years old and killing dancefloors on the regular... don't sleep. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif Please tell us more.....give us more info.....any links...which club....when does he play...is he willing to travel, with achaperone of course.

[D J 1 3 8]

My vote goes to %seRge%. That kid is like 15 or some shit.

[Nege]

Originally posted by Tristan:
MR. KICKS in Toronto is the first to come to mind. This kid is a PHENOMENON !!! 15 or 16 years old and killing dancefloors on the regular... don't sleep. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif I second that
he reminds me of myself at that age............

[%seRge%]

Originally posted by DJ 138:
My vote goes to %seRge%. That kid is like 15 or some shit. I'm 16 get it right. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/gaga.gif

[DJ76]

In Montreal, one of our "kids" has been beating for quite some time, Alex T. This dude has knowledge of music pouring down his ears. Montrealers on this board that know him can testify. I remember listening to a radio show back in the early 90s, he used to submit tapes, he was something like 14 years old back then and playing deep New Jersey tracks from unheard labels and little known artists and you'd be like "what the f***!?!?". Nowadays, he drops a mixture of funk, house, classics, etc. And I believe he's only 22 at the moment.

I had a gorgeous mix of his on my website but since I've been away, I haven't been able to take care of it and the site is down... The mix is on the funky tip, dropping tracks like "Heavy Vibes" and slowly growing into New Jersey sounds. Kid's got lots and lots of talent.

Those that aren't too far, he's playing this Thursday May 8 at Jojoflores's THERAPY night in Montreal.

[Martin Red]

Haven't we already had the conversation on DHP about age meaning knowledge and knowledge meaning power, and power making you powerfull and stuff, probably not...

Anyway, 19 year old, are more likeley to be beating "their meat" than beating "the shit".

Anyway, close communities train and When you get you own shit sorted is when you can help others, and here at least it's everyone for themselves at this time.


Not many shepherds around now, everyone must be pig farming.

I started DJ'ing at 20 FYI. ;)

[ May 06, 2003, 04:54 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

[DJ76]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
Haven't we already had the conversation on DHP about age meaning knowledge and knowledge meaning power, and power making you powerfull and stuff, probably not...

Anyway, 19 year old, are more likeley to be beating "their meat" than beating "the shit".

you beat your meat at any stage of your life :D

as for music, if you seriously started collecting music at early stages of your life, you can have very good knowledge even in your late teenage years. Of course these are exceptional cases we are talking about, most 19 yrs old are beating the meat... or someone else's....

[john]

Many young people have the knowledge but not the collection..

records are to darn expensive!
/j

[Martin Red]

True John, but in that case (UK perspective), all they need is D.H.P !

Things have changed
there are some seriously loaded kids out there, look at the Universities, on campus now you'll see the best dressed student shaking his brand new car keys, with an expensive cell phone and more socializing money than M.Barrymore.

[DJ76]

I don't know too many rich kids digging into crates to find black gold. Most djs I know are either broke or simply maintaining. There are exceptions of course.

[liL Ray]

So, what are we/you/me doing to develop the next prodigy? Are we willing to teach them....give them your records....book them a gig to play...give 'em your slot at your weekly...???....

If we love the scene so much, shouldn't we push the raw talent?

[ May 06, 2003, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[Jacques de Doozu]

Originally posted by Martin Red:
Haven't we already had the conversation on DHP about age meaning knowledge and knowledge meaning power, and power making you powerfull and stuff, probably not...

Anyway, 19 year old, are more likeley to be beating "their meat" than beating "the shit".

Anyway, close communities train and When you get you own shit sorted is when you can help others, and here at least it's everyone for themselves at this time.


Not many shepherds around now, everyone must be pig farming.

I started DJ'ing at 20 FYI. ;) i've been listening to techno (detroit stuff mostly), when i was around 13 years. not an easy thing around these parts. most people don't understand the music.
i discovered all kinds of music throughout the (few years) from the more jazzy d 'n b; to jazz, to house, whatever...
i can honestly say that i've got more knowledge of music then the average 20 year old, and i started buying vinyl 2 years ago.
not to brag, but i've got to tell it like it is...
i don't htink age has alot to do with musical knowledge, or even more important musical 'understanding'. just my 2 cents.
peace

[Red D]

Tom D fosho, and I can understand his reaction on Martin's post, but that's just because you are the exception to the rule.
It is very rare for 13 - 18 year old kids to be discovering and listening to the stuff that's being discussed here daily.
That's why they can be called a prodigy I guess :)

RD

[Keith Blackstone]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
So, what are we/you/me doing to develop the next prodigy? Are we willing to teach them....give them your records....book them a gig to play...give 'em your slot at your weekly...???....

If we love the scene so much, shouldn't we push the raw talent? Ray, we barely push our own talent... how the hell we gonna push some young prodigy? How many good ass DJs are in and around NYC and aren't getting a break? Yet we're tryin to skip over that generation and get to the youngsters? Help one... help all...

Considering the monopoly on slots these days... I just don't get this. (Or maybe it's my mood today, dunno)

[TAC]

How many times have we said this, “ain’t no 20 year old beating sh*t.” Playing music is a function of experience - life experience.

“We will sell no wine before its time.”

Think about it. Not to say that the raw talent should not be nurtured, but that’s what it is “raw talent.”

Peace
TAC

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
So, what are we/you/me doing to develop the next prodigy? Are we willing to teach them....give them your records....book them a gig to play...give 'em your slot at your weekly...???....

If we love the scene so much, shouldn't we push the raw talent? Ray, we barely push our own talent... how the hell we gonna push some young prodigy? How many good ass DJs are in and around NYC and aren't getting a break? Yet we're tryin to skip over that generation and get to the youngsters? Help one... help all...

Considering the monopoly on slots these days... I just don't get this. (Or maybe it's my mood today, dunno) </font>[/QUOTE]Personally, I don't see the many 'talent' that you speak of...I see many record/music players. Not hating on those who are doing or trying to do their thing, but, honestly, if you ask me(and I guess you did), most of those who are out there playing music are just going through the motions and are, well, basically, BORING. Yeah, I know I might get yelled at or called a HATER(again), but most of y'all know this is true.

So, yes, maybe I'm jumping over a whole generation of music players, in search of the next "bust 'em upside their heads, ass kicking" dj, because I'm a little disappointed with most of the current crop....plus, the older guys can only continue to do this for so long, until a thing call life catches up. Also, a sure sign that the scene needs fresh blood is when you see older djs getting back in the game....and moost of them were sad then but are still better at it than most of the young guns.

TAC, I agree and disagree with your comment....yes, you need life experiences, however, like you said, it IS raw talent, and when you see it, as a lover of the scene, you should nurture it, teach it, and set it wild on the scene.....it's been a while since we've seen this....or is it there and we are not paying attention?

Disagree? I can take it....

[Tristan]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tristan:
MR. KICKS in Toronto is the first to come to mind. This kid is a PHENOMENON !!! 15 or 16 years old and killing dancefloors on the regular... don't sleep. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif Please tell us more.....give us more info.....any links...which club....when does he play...is he willing to travel, with achaperone of course. </font>[/QUOTE]Ray, this kid is fierce. The first time I saw him play he was like 12-13 years old. At that time I have to admit I thought it was a novelty, but he got up there infront of his sisters friends and family and did his thing... I think it was for a birthday party. They were having it at this bar I was working at at the time. I remember having a duscussion with the management about whether or not to let a kid in... the owner didn't really give a sh** about rules at that point so we allowed it. graemlins/rofl.gif

A year or so later I started hearing rumours about a kid playing out. It was a nice surprise when I found out it was him...

They really seem like a TOGETHER family. His pops keeps him in line with homework and always accompanies him to gigs. Gene could probably tell you more about him than I. It's a great system, he only plays if his homework is done... graemlins/respekt.gif

When I hear him play today, he plays with maturity and a DEEP record collection spanning several decades of club music. He plays like he's unafraid. AND he has fun, something that lacks in some jocks...

He and his father are with Reminisce Events (http://www.reminisce-events.com/) but they do other events on request.

... just wait till he starts producing... graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by liL Ray:


TAC, I agree and disagree with your comment....yes, you need life experiences, however, like you said, it IS raw talent, and when you see it, as a lover of the scene, you should nurture it, teach it, and set it wild on the scene.....it's been a while since we've seen this....or is it there and we are not paying attention?

Disagree? I can take it.... The young guns you are seeking are in the matrix, in reality the young guns are not into dance music as we call it...they are into hip hop or the electronica. That is pretty much IMHO a good/solid assumption.

I agree with you on ONE thing, there are may music players who play more of the political, promotional and PLUR scene more than their vibe. I am no judge..really wish you would though since you put everything but names out there (drama!! Yeah.) But this post was really about where are the prodigies rather than the mid aged folks are wacK???

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by 1343:
[QUOTE] But this post was really about where are the prodigies rather than the mid aged folks are wacK??? was it? hahahahaha....

I really don't care what is happening in the hiphop world, 1343, I'm really interested if there are any musical disturbance on the horizon and what we should do about it. It's very few parties and djs that still give me the butterflies....maybe I'm just getting old and just not getting it.

But I'm curious if there are any young prodigies out there....pure rage...no PLUR bullshit.

....liL Ray

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:

But this post was really about where are the prodigies rather than the mid aged folks are wacK??? was it? hahahahaha....

I really don't care what is happening in the hiphop world, 1343, I'm really interested if there are any musical disturbance on the horizon and what we should do about it. It's very few parties and djs that still give me the butterflies....maybe I'm just getting old and just not getting it.

But I'm curious if there are any young prodigies out there....pure rage...no PLUR bullshit.

....liL Ray </font>You may be like the addict...Weed..to coke..to heroin...then crack...you may be turned OUT!
But foreal..I think you miss the point that the youngin you seek needs serious guidance from birth to capture what you seek...from down there (age not height) the kid with no voice in the ear would wanna play the popular music. Maybe it is time for you to create a lil'er Ray and mold from start.

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by 1343:
[QUOTE] Maybe it is time for you to create a lil'er Ray and mold from start. He or she would take over the world and get hated on....and life would be grand... :D

[Keith Blackstone]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Personally, I don't see the many 'talent' that you speak of...I see many record/music players. Not hating on those who are doing or trying to do their thing, but, honestly, if you ask me(and I guess you did), most of those who are out there playing music are just going through the motions and are, well, basically, BORING. Yeah, I know I might get yelled at or called a HATER(again), but most of y'all know this is true.

So, yes, maybe I'm jumping over a whole generation of music players, in search of the next "bust 'em upside their heads, ass kicking" dj, because I'm a little disappointed with most of the current crop....plus, the older guys can only continue to do this for so long, until a thing call life catches up. Also, a sure sign that the scene needs fresh blood is when you see older djs getting back in the game....and moost of them were sad then but are still better at it than most of the young guns.Hmmm... I'm definitely not gonna call you hater because we happen to 'sorta' disagree... Do I see "alot" of great talent out here? Ehhh... no. But do I see some people out here not getting a chance, yah fo sho. It just seemed a bit unusual that you'd skip a generation instead of helping those who are right behind you (time wise) and most likely the next to fill your spot.

I'm gonna ask you a completely upfront question with no lashback over the answer... Am I one of these DJs you describe as 'boring' ?

We don't really speak aside from this board, but it would be interesting to sit down over a drink and hear exactly what you feel about the scene and why...

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by 1343:
Maybe it is time for you to create a lil'er Ray and mold from start. I bet you his wife has been on his ass about this and if she hasnt yet, she will be soon.

[TAC]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Personally, I don't see the many 'talent' that you speak of...I see many record/music players. Not hating on those who are doing or trying to do their thing, but, honestly, if you ask me (and I guess you did), most of those who are out there playing music are just going through the motions and are, well, basically, BORING. Yeah, I know I might get yelled at or called a HATER(again), but most of y'all know this is true.[QB]Uhm, the boring part, I would have to agree with yer, and the fact that most people are merely record changing. They are not boring, no they are F*CKING BORING. I’m hating, and I just don’t give a f*ck. I spend money. I am the paying customer, so I can say what I want. When I go out, I am ready to have a good time, i.e., blow steam. I’ll hold my judgment for when I get home, and I’ll say, “Damn that dude/female was boring.” Nevertheless, when I’m out, I’m not going to waste my time and money standing around crying about it. I’m going to have fun regardless. But the fact remained they SUCKED!!


[QB]
plus, the older guys can only continue to do this for so long, until a thing call life catches up. Also, a sure sign that the scene needs fresh blood is when you see older djs getting back in the game....and most of them were sad then but are still better at it than most of the young guns. Again, the above are a pair of valid statements. If you retired, then you should stay retired. What’s the point? During one’s prime, the majority of people that followed you were your close friends. As you aged so did your following. If you quit, then your following fell off, i.e., no new blood to jump on the train that was “you.” How is one going to develop a new following, and where? In some rat hole playing to 20 people for five years. I don’t think so. Who the f*ck are “you?” Beside, there were very few TRUE prodigies in the hey day of this whole thing, and most of ‘em did not do it for a living.




TAC, I agree and disagree with your comment....yes, you need life experiences, however, like you said, it IS raw talent, and when you see it, as a lover of the scene, you should nurture it, teach it, and set it wild on the scene.....it's been a while since we've seen this....or is it there and we are not paying attention? I actually think we are in agreement because I did say that we should not close the door on a true young raw talent, but we should nurture it and bring it along.

The thing is “we” were all young and raw at some point in time, but the truth is “we” made our own paths. When I could not get any light in the arena that I was in, I forged my own way; I made a name for myself, I handed out tapes, I got a radio show, I did what it took to get put on. After a while, no one could come on deck and try to come and rock sh*t cause I set the standard by which all were measured. All the big parties fell into my hands, and the weak hearts were left to fight over scrapes.

Just a side note, I once was that little kid on campus with the pockets full of money, digging deep for the beats. I got to college in 1979, and already had a collection by the time I got on deck. ;)

Another thing, I’ve been doing this crap non stop, yes non stop for more than half my file now. In all this time, I have never considered myself a “DJ” I just like the music. The DJ’s are Tony Humphries, LLV, Phil D, FK, Wolfman Jack, and the list goes on. Me I just like the F*CKING music. It makes me wanna dance.

Peace
TAC

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Maybe it is time for you to create a lil'er Ray and mold from start. I bet you his wife has been on his ass about this and if she hasnt yet, she will be soon. </font>[/QUOTE]Didnt mean him making child...

[Bill Blake]

TAC

Lil Ray

Could the two of you please direct me to a mix of someone playing on the web that YOU would consider 'not boring'?

And like do it NOW!

Thanx

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Do I see "alot" of great talent out here? Ehhh... no. But do I see some people out here not getting a chance, yah fo sho. It just seemed a bit unusual that you'd skip a generation instead of helping those who are right behind you (time wise) and most likely the next to fill your spot.

I'm gonna ask you a completely upfront question with no lashback over the answer... Am I one of these DJs you describe as 'boring' ?

We don't really speak aside from this board, but it would be interesting to sit down over a drink and hear exactly what you feel about the scene and why... [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]To answer your direct question first....I can't say you are boring because I haven't heard you play live...I don't make a decision anymore based on a person's mixtape. You play on the same night I play, so I don't get the opportunity.

As far as helping those djs that have talent, I think I have done my part in that arena and will continue to do so. It's not that I'm skipping a generation, it's just that a very high percent of that generation is either not good or taking a very long time to understand what they are doing. I see you at least share the same view on the abundance of talent. I still think the young raw talent is the best...just before they get corrupted by the politics....I just like to party and that's why I'm looking for that wild young talent.

Sitting down for a drink would be good....that is always good for me...you probably will find I'm not the warmonger some make me out to be. ;)

....liL Ray

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
Maybe it is time for you to create a lil'er Ray and mold from start. I bet you his wife has been on his ass about this and if she hasnt yet, she will be soon. </font>[/QUOTE]You got a camera in my house... :D

[yodvibes]

Rays not a war monger, he's a drunk like me graemlins/beerchug.gif graemlins/all_coholic.gif

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by yodvibes:
Rays not a war monger, he's a drunk like me graemlins/beerchug.gif graemlins/all_coholic.gif It's an honor to be in drunkass company like yours.... graemlins/tongueout.gif

[yodvibes]

ahahahahahaha hail.gif

graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Nege]

Originally posted by DJ76:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
Haven't we already had the conversation on DHP about age meaning knowledge and knowledge meaning power, and power making you powerfull and stuff, probably not...

Anyway, 19 year old, are more likeley to be beating "their meat" than beating "the shit".

you beat your meat at any stage of your life :D

as for music, if you seriously started collecting music at early stages of your life, you can have very good knowledge even in your late teenage years. Of course these are exceptional cases we are talking about, most 19 yrs old are beating the meat... or someone else's.... </font>[/QUOTE]I Agree with that,
as for Alex T.,
I have a whole bunch of his Cds and he knows his Sh&^%T!!!!
His Dad was a DJ in Montreal during the Disco era so Of Course if he is interested, the knowledge will be passed on to him,
Age doesn't matter. It's all about your background.
MR Kicks in Toronto is Influenced by his Dad Kenny who was also (and still is) a DJ to this Day.and thats where his knowledge comes from .
I was influenced by my dad as well as my older cousins that knew what was up at the time.
And I started a the age of 13.
Now EXPERIENCE!!!
is a TOTALLY different thing altogether.
thought Id put in my 50 Cents CDN
***BURP***

[ May 06, 2003, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: Eneg ]

[Woody Rosen]

I am 19 (20 in november) and have been since I was 16, producing/makin beats since I was 14. I am pretty good, but not good enought yet. Here's some of my reviews:

http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54495

http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48700

http://www.dallasdancemusic.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47184

I am getting booked more and more regularly as time goes on. Praise the LORD!!! :D biggrinangel.gif :D :D

Also if anyone would like a CD, I would be more than happy to mail one out to whoever is interested. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/stereo.gif

[ May 06, 2003, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Woody ]

[Quentin Harrris]

Originally posted by john:
Many young people have the knowledge but not the collection..

records are to darn expensive!
/j Not to toot my own horn...i have both i bought my first record when i was 9 alot of my collection came from my father who was also a dj
smile.gif

[Ron la Rock]

[ May 07, 2003, 05:35 AM: Message edited by: Ron paizley ]

[houseaddict]

Originally posted by Quentin Harrris:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by john:
Many young people have the knowledge but not the collection..

records are to darn expensive!
/j Not to toot my own horn...i have both i bought my first record when i was 9 alot of my collection came from my father who was also a dj
smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]The only way I am able to afford the collection I have is due to real estate. I was deep into hip-hop in the late 80's early 90's and Main Source had this track on their album, "Watch Roger Do His Thing". There is a line in it that says Roger has keys and G's instead of slingin rocks at the crack spots. I sorta took that to heart. Although these records of ours are expensive and getting moreso, I can bedgrudgingly afford them.