View Full Version : American haters..........
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:18 AM
I hope all is watching how this thing is starting to play out.
Irag is like being in hell. Who wants to live there?
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I hope all is watching how this thing is starting to play out.
Irag is like being in hell. Who wants to live there? Please define "American Haters".
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:29 AM
People that criticize America for anything they do at the government level.
lola desire
04-08-2003, 08:30 AM
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GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
People that criticize America for anything they do at the government level. So I'm an American hater due to the fact that our own government took innocent black men and injected them with Syphollis?
Can you be more specific please? Your comments make no sense at all.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:34 AM
Groove you don't get it!!!!
Some people are just hatin on America and then benefit from it's sacrifice. How lame!
[ April 08, 2003, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
People that criticize America for anything they do at the government level. This is just plain silly and ignorant.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove you don't get it!!!! No it's you that doesn't get it. To think that just because there are people in this nation or in this world that don't agree with our gonvernments decisions, you consider them to be American Haters, what kind of crap is that?
If you're so Gung Ho about the matters at hand, then take your ass to your local recruiting officer and join the military. Let a drill Sargeant kick you around for a few weeks then drag your ass out to Iraq and feel the raft of air getting sucked out of your lungs due to a 2000 pound bomb hitting near by.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:39 AM
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice.
Koffy Brown
04-08-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove you don't get it!!!! No it's you that doesn't get it. To think that just because there are people in this nation or in this world that don't agree with our gonvernments decisions, you consider them to be American Haters, what kind of crap is that?
If you're so Gung Ho about the matters at hand, then take your ass to your local recruiting officer and join the military. Let a drill Sargeant kick you around for a few weeks then drag your ass out to Iraq and feel the raft of air getting sucked out of your lungs due to a 2000 pound bomb hitting near by. </font>[/QUOTE]Tell it!!
Jolyon
04-08-2003, 08:42 AM
I don't know what brainmush you're being fed on Fox and CNN but most of the reports I've seen have hardly shown the Iraqi people screaming and cheering at the arrival of the American troops.
Thousands of people have been killed, thousands more are homeless. Baghdad is running low on food and water and medicine. Rival Iraqi groups have already started firing guns at each other.
Oh and more people haved died in Iraq in the last three weeks than died on 9/11.
I don't hate America, I hate wars that murder innocent people and destory lives in order to get Presidents re-elected and corporations even fatter wallets.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove you don't get it!!!! No it's you that doesn't get it. To think that just because there are people in this nation or in this world that don't agree with our gonvernments decisions, you consider them to be American Haters, what kind of crap is that?
If you're so Gung Ho about the matters at hand, then take your ass to your local recruiting officer and join the military. Let a drill Sargeant kick you around for a few weeks then drag your ass out to Iraq and feel the raft of air getting sucked out of your lungs due to a 2000 pound bomb hitting near by. </font>[/QUOTE]I wish I could. You may need to move to another country, so they don't recruit you. No guts, that's what will destroy America.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. Doug, if you're reading this, just chill, I don't want to see another Victor Newman episode appear on this board.
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't know what brainmush you're being fed on Fox and CNN but most of the reports I've seen have hardly shown the Iraqi people screaming and cheering at the arrival of the American troops.
Thousands of people have been killed, thousands more are homeless. Baghdad is running low on food and water and medicine. Rival Iraqi groups have already started firing guns at each other.
Oh and more people haved died in Iraq in the last three weeks than died on 9/11.
I don't hate America, I hate wars that murder innocent people and destory lives in order to get Presidents re-elected and corporations even fatter wallets. Do you really think this world can be without wars. No, man is Phuck up. Point blank and Saddam is one evil bastard.
Leslie
04-08-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. I maintain - why is your ass still here and not in the "hell" of I-R-A-Q (correct spelling BTW) killing women and children? Why have you not enlisted?
Again, dude when did you get your 40 and mule?
Koffy Brown
04-08-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks for saving me the keystrokes...no he didn't...
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. You think that sacrifice means blindly supporting everything that our government does, regardless of the potential impact it may have on your life and the lives of others. You also assume that anyone who objects to this particular war is unwilling to make a sacrifice for this country. You couldn't be further off base.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 08:48 AM
I will debate this, but personal attacks I don't like.
Jolyon
04-08-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't know what brainmush you're being fed on Fox and CNN but most of the reports I've seen have hardly shown the Iraqi people screaming and cheering at the arrival of the American troops.
Thousands of people have been killed, thousands more are homeless. Baghdad is running low on food and water and medicine. Rival Iraqi groups have already started firing guns at each other.
Oh and more people haved died in Iraq in the last three weeks than died on 9/11.
I don't hate America, I hate wars that murder innocent people and destory lives in order to get Presidents re-elected and corporations even fatter wallets. Do you really think this world can be without wars. No, man is Phuck up. Point blank and Saddam is one evil bastard. </font>[/QUOTE]Sometimes war is justified. Not this time though.
Can you tell me the difference between having your father or brother, or mother or sister killed by an America bomb and having Saddam take them out and have them shot? Do you think it feels any different? "Oh well, at least Mom died for a good cause, we're being liberated." BULLSHIT.
Leslie
04-08-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]mhd - if this is not proof of how much trouble we are in, this is the educational system - Oh Lawdy, Lawd! I can't no more...I done thrown up my hands...
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I wish I could. You may need to move to another country, so they don't recruit you. No guts, that's what will destroy America. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Ignorance is bliss.
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]mhd - if this is not proof of how much trouble we are in, this is the educational system - Oh Lawdy, Lawd! I can't no more...I done thrown up my hands... </font>[/QUOTE]i know, its scary
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:00 AM
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Red D
04-08-2003, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I will debate this, but personal attacks I don't like. Couldn't help but notice you calling someone else 'jerk' a couple of posts back...
Basecore Boy, you are always on about wanting to debate anything, but at the same time you keep on coming up with topics and comments that are bound to get on people's nerves, wassup with that?
No wonder the US government and military annoy just about everyone on this planet, including the British troops who are fighting with you. Get that stars and stripes out of your eyes and realise that all that the 'coalition' is doing is laying the foundations for yet another civil war in a country in shambles. Already the Kurds in the North are claiming territory, other factions are claiming the right to the throne, etc, etc.
All your patriot gibberish and ranting can only mean one thing: you are as power-hungry and blind to the opinion of the rest of the world as your leaders, and that my dear friend pisses me off.
I've never attacked anyone personally ever on this board, but you can just go screw yourself.
RD
[ April 08, 2003, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: Red D ]
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk </font>[/QUOTE]jerk? ever heard of slavery? you calling me names because you get punked every time you open your pie-hole on this board. its ok for you to call us american haters, but its not ok for us to point out your ignorance. double standard, you can dish it out but you can't take it, basecore batty boy
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:03 AM
Regardless of if you're for or against the war, the bottom line is that our troops are over there now. Now protest, or no civil disobediant act will bring them back.
But I will be damned if I hear another person say an ingornant statment such as the ones stated above by Basecore.
Basecore, if I gave you the chance to sit down with my favorite uncle who fought in Vietnam, and let him tell you how after 30 years, he wakes up in a cold sweat after a thunderstorm, or the sound of a car backfiring makes him snap, you will see how war really is. I pray everynight that my brother is OK and I hope he makes it home in one piece.
Just because I'm not in a uniform with a rifle doesn't mean that I don't support my country. I have to be human first.
Peace
Koffy Brown
04-08-2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by Jolyon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't know what brainmush you're being fed on Fox and CNN but most of the reports I've seen have hardly shown the Iraqi people screaming and cheering at the arrival of the American troops.
Thousands of people have been killed, thousands more are homeless. Baghdad is running low on food and water and medicine. Rival Iraqi groups have already started firing guns at each other.
Oh and more people haved died in Iraq in the last three weeks than died on 9/11.
I don't hate America, I hate wars that murder innocent people and destory lives in order to get Presidents re-elected and corporations even fatter wallets. Do you really think this world can be without wars. No, man is Phuck up. Point blank and Saddam is one evil bastard. </font>[/QUOTE]Sometimes war is justified. Not this time though.
Can you tell me the difference between having your father or brother, or mother or sister killed by an America bomb and having Saddam take them out and have them shot? Do you think it feels any different? "Oh well, at least Mom died for a good cause, we're being liberated." BULLSHIT. </font>[/QUOTE]In this day and age war should never be justified...
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:09 AM
I knew what I said would press buttons. That's why I said it. I don't attack others until they attack me personally.
What do you think we should do with Saddam? Leave him alone.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk </font>[/QUOTE]jerk? ever heard of slavery? you calling me names because you get punked every time you open your pie-hole on this board. its ok for you to call us american haters, but its not ok for us to point out your ignorance. double standard, you can dish it out but you can't take it, basecore batty boy </font>[/QUOTE]Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want.
Jolyon
04-08-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
I don't know what brainmush you're being fed on Fox and CNN but most of the reports I've seen have hardly shown the Iraqi people screaming and cheering at the arrival of the American troops.
Thousands of people have been killed, thousands more are homeless. Baghdad is running low on food and water and medicine. Rival Iraqi groups have already started firing guns at each other.
Oh and more people haved died in Iraq in the last three weeks than died on 9/11.
I don't hate America, I hate wars that murder innocent people and destory lives in order to get Presidents re-elected and corporations even fatter wallets. Do you really think this world can be without wars. No, man is Phuck up. Point blank and Saddam is one evil bastard. </font>[/QUOTE]Sometimes war is justified. Not this time though.
Can you tell me the difference between having your father or brother, or mother or sister killed by an America bomb and having Saddam take them out and have them shot? Do you think it feels any different? "Oh well, at least Mom died for a good cause, we're being liberated." BULLSHIT. </font>[/QUOTE]In this day and age war should never be justified... </font>[/QUOTE]When an aggressor invades another country then there is a need for a war...there are other examples - civil wars that overthrow dictators etc., the Second World War and Spanish civil wars are good examples of 'just' wars.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I will debate this, but personal attacks I don't like. Couldn't help but notice you calling someone else 'jerk' a couple of posts back...
Basecore Boy, you are always on about wanting to debate anything, but at the same time you keep on coming up with topics and comments that are bound to get on people's nerves, wassup with that?
No wonder the US government and military annoy just about everyone on this planet, including the British troops who are fighting with you. Get that stars and stripes out of your eyes and realise that all that the 'coalition' is doing is laying the foundations for yet another civil war in a country in shambles. Already the Kurds in the North are claiming territory, other factions are claiming the right to the throne, etc, etc.
All your patriot gibberish and ranting can only mean one thing: you are as power-hungry and blind to the opinion of the rest of the world as your leaders, and that my dear friend pisses me off.
I've never attacked anyone personally ever on this board, but you can just go screw yourself.
RD </font>[/QUOTE]Ditto
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk </font>[/QUOTE]jerk? ever heard of slavery? you calling me names because you get punked every time you open your pie-hole on this board. its ok for you to call us american haters, but its not ok for us to point out your ignorance. double standard, you can dish it out but you can't take it, basecore batty boy </font>[/QUOTE]Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want. </font>[/QUOTE]exactly, i never said you could not, but you want to silence me because i will expose your faulty brain functioning
Jacques de Doozu
04-08-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk </font>[/QUOTE]jerk? ever heard of slavery? you calling me names because you get punked every time you open your pie-hole on this board. its ok for you to call us american haters, but its not ok for us to point out your ignorance. double standard, you can dish it out but you can't take it, basecore batty boy </font>[/QUOTE]Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want. </font>[/QUOTE]i doubt that... graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
Friday
04-08-2003, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want. "Freedom of Speech" at its best graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
[ April 08, 2003, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: girlfriday ]
Drrtynewyork
04-08-2003, 09:17 AM
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there?
Cheddar
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain,Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain,Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain,Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain,Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain,Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, Complain, READ, READ, READ, READ.
Operation Northwoods, COINTELPRO..
The same Ratinale being used today...was suggested
and in COINTELPRO's case implemented on AMERICANS (including the Black Panthers).
There are people in my life who regret mentioning current events these days...basically because I require proof and or logical explanaitions for what they REITERATE.
A war pushed by people who ducked service themselves..and are/is being advised by people with dual (prolly just one..using our tax dollars to fuel the war machine to further unAmerican goals) interests.
America has vast amounts of resources which are in limbo due to politics.
Leslie
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Tom D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. no sacrifice? wtf, go back to school, a mind is a terrible thing to waste </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry you have to turn your mind back into God. Jerk </font>[/QUOTE]jerk? ever heard of slavery? you calling me names because you get punked every time you open your pie-hole on this board. its ok for you to call us american haters, but its not ok for us to point out your ignorance. double standard, you can dish it out but you can't take it, basecore batty boy </font>[/QUOTE]Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want. </font>[/QUOTE]i doubt that... graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]He won't get that distinction - beyond his level of understanding and reasoning. Infer from that what ever you wish.....
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I knew what I said would press buttons. That's why I said it. I don't attack others until they attack me personally.
What do you think we should do with Saddam? Leave him alone. So you're in support of a government that didn't finish a job that was left up to the Iraqi people over 10 years ago? With all the news about what happened last night, he's either dead or probably in hiding.
The bottom line is, we screwd the Iraqi people when we gave the Iraqi military permission to "Fly Helicoptors". You know what they did with those helicoptors, they used them to get back in control of their nation.
Now you have a nuts like Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld who have been hell bent on getting back into Iraq for the past 10 years. It's because of Wolfowitz doctorine that we are over their now.
Basecore answer this question please:
If 9-11 did not occur, do you think we would be over there now?
ngeso
04-08-2003, 09:19 AM
Shut your pie hole! This is America and I can say what I want. [/QB]"This is America"
nice one, dude... hail.gif
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Damn Doug what are you people seeing or hearing?
Drrtynewyork
04-08-2003, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Damn Doug what are you people seeing or hearing? </font>[/QUOTE]NOT everything CNN and the papers are tellin thats for sure.
Bill Blake
04-08-2003, 09:24 AM
Sacrifice= Giving up something of more value for lesser value
Anyone that does that is a complete ****ing moron.
Bascore, Ill give you one dollar for a thousand?
Leslie
04-08-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Again, beyond his level of understanding that anyone who does not live in America could possibly love their country (warts and all) and want to defend and preserve it at any cost. He assumes everyone should want to be an american and live in a democratic society. He also fails to realize we are dealing with a civilization that is older than 2 USA's put together - but you'd have to have an understanding of world history to get that....
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:26 AM
You guys are so deep, just like the music.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Again, beyond his level of understanding that anyone who does not live in America could possibly love their country (warts and all) and want to defend and preserve it at any cost. He assumes everyone should want to be an american and live in a democratic society. He also fails to realize we are dealing with a civilization that is older than 2 USA's put together - but you'd have to have an understanding of world history to get that.... </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know the history of Irag? That is where life began. Then Saddam turns it into hell. Read your bible.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:29 AM
Basecore = myopic
get out of Jersey and see the world for a change
Drrtynewyork
04-08-2003, 09:30 AM
f**K IRAQI freedom, what about America Freedom. unemployment, taxes etc.. damn i can keep on...
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Basecore = myopic
get out of Jersey and see the world for a change SAD
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Basecore = myopic
get out of Jersey and see the world for a change SAD </font>[/QUOTE]isn't it?
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
f**K IRAQI freedom, what about America Freedom. unemployment, taxes etc.. damn i can keep on... Go protest then.
Drrtynewyork
04-08-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Again, beyond his level of understanding that anyone who does not live in America could possibly love their country (warts and all) and want to defend and preserve it at any cost. He assumes everyone should want to be an american and live in a democratic society. He also fails to realize we are dealing with a civilization that is older than 2 USA's put together - but you'd have to have an understanding of world history to get that.... </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know the history of Irag? That is where life began. Then Saddam turns it into hell. Read your bible. </font>[/QUOTE]basecore boy, who you think was helping Saddam in the 80's?? let me give you a hint.. starts with a U and ends with an A lol
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:34 AM
Groove respect to you even though you like to talk alot of shiit.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Again, beyond his level of understanding that anyone who does not live in America could possibly love their country (warts and all) and want to defend and preserve it at any cost. He assumes everyone should want to be an american and live in a democratic society. He also fails to realize we are dealing with a civilization that is older than 2 USA's put together - but you'd have to have an understanding of world history to get that.... </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know the history of Irag? That is where life began. Then Saddam turns it into hell. Read your bible. </font>[/QUOTE]basecore boy, who you think was helping Saddam in the 80's?? let me give you a hint.. starts with a U and ends with an A lol </font>[/QUOTE]Tell me something I don't know.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove respect to you even though you like to talk alot of shiit. Shit based on actual fact.
Travel
Cheddar
04-08-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
f**K IRAQI freedom, what about America Freedom. unemployment, taxes etc.. damn i can keep on... FREE AMERICA........ (http://www.rense.com/general36/libb.htm)
lola desire
04-08-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basecore boy, who you think was helping Saddam in the 80's?? let me give you a hint.. starts with a U and ends with an A lol Tell me something I don't know. </font>[/QUOTE]so, basecore, you support the america that sold the weapons to saddam? do you also support the america that trained osama bin laden?
how deep is your support of u.s. military action?
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
basceore boy what the hell do you know about iraq being a hell? and about people not wanting to live there? Again, beyond his level of understanding that anyone who does not live in America could possibly love their country (warts and all) and want to defend and preserve it at any cost. He assumes everyone should want to be an american and live in a democratic society. He also fails to realize we are dealing with a civilization that is older than 2 USA's put together - but you'd have to have an understanding of world history to get that.... </font>[/QUOTE]Do you know the history of Irag? That is where life began. Then Saddam turns it into hell. Read your bible. </font>[/QUOTE]basecore boy, who you think was helping Saddam in the 80's?? let me give you a hint.. starts with a U and ends with an A lol </font>[/QUOTE]Tell me something I don't know. </font>[/QUOTE]every post is telling you something you don't know
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:42 AM
MHD I'm not talking to you no more. Because you just want to attack me personally.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
MHD I'm not talking to you no more. Because you just want to attack me personally. This more or less sums up this entire topic of discussion. If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen.
I think I'll watch the ending of "School Daze" when I get home.
Drrtynewyork
04-08-2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
f**K IRAQI freedom, what about America Freedom. unemployment, taxes etc.. damn i can keep on... FREE AMERICA........ (http://www.rense.com/general36/libb.htm) </font>[/QUOTE]basecore, read this article 1343 put up.
taxes =terrorism lol
Cordell
04-08-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. This the wrong place to be talking about "Sacrifice" There are a lot of people that sacrifice to make a living everyday. Not getting paid what they're worth, getting laid off and can't find a job. Where are the benefits in that? The president spends 75 billion??? What about using 10% of that here within this country? People are retiring to nothing... where are the benefits in that.
I don't agree with going to another country and changing the goverment, and liberating the people?? Where was the goverment for south africa? and cuba etc. Why Iraq and not those other countries. Don't talk about the terrorist being in Iraq... cause they're not. You sound like those students that are suing the university of Michigan because they were pass over for some affirmative action students. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/nopityA.gif
andrea
04-08-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. this is very true Basecore. We tend to bitch about everything that doesn't please us, but do we try to do anything about it? I am a strong believer in giving back to society. There are many americans of all creeds, races and religions who are impoverished and we can at least do something to help. Volunteer at a skid row mission, mentor kids, visit battered women's centers, etc. Don't look at the big picture, but at the small snapshots of humanity in everyday lives. It may seem like a sacrifice to some, but it is our humane duty to reach out.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 09:54 AM
Some people are deep when it comes to debate. But, that's all. What do they do to help their community. Nothing!
Complain, Complain.
Originally posted by andrea:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What's ignorant is that you want the benefits of America, but no sacrifice. this is very true Basecore. We tend to bitch about everything that doesn't please us, but do we try to do anything about it? I am a strong believer in giving back to society. There are many americans of all creeds, races and religions who are impoverished and we can at least do something to help. Volunteer at a skid row mission, mentor kids, visit battered women's centers, etc. Don't look at the big picture, but at the small snapshots of humanity in everyday lives. It may seem like a sacrifice to some, but it is our humane duty to reach out. </font>[/QUOTE]ever heard of slavery
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
MHD I'm not talking to you no more. Because you just want to attack me personally. c'mon boy, i'm just poking fun at you
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
MHD I'm not talking to you no more. Because you just want to attack me personally. c'mon boy, i'm just poking fun at you </font>[/QUOTE]Ok, be nice and I will talk to you again.
;)
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
MHD I'm not talking to you no more. Because you just want to attack me personally. c'mon boy, i'm just poking fun at you </font>[/QUOTE]Ok, be nice and I will talk to you again.
;) </font>[/QUOTE]nice tie
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 10:19 AM
Thanks. Nice shirt.
rexdale brawler
04-08-2003, 10:59 AM
Basecore Boy you must be pleased with the last war the US sent their bombs to (Serbia). Bombs that destroyed and contaminated soil to poison innocent civilians for many years to come. Now the Iraqis and soon North Koreans can enjoy the same.
Now they must pull out of their land, land they have lived on for hundreads of years.
If only you could pull your head out of your ass-that's the hard part. graemlins/acclaim.gif
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:04 PM
Complain, complain, complain. Tell those countries to get their shiit together and we won't have to go there.
So, get your head out your ass.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Complain, complain, complain. Tell those countries to get their shiit together and we won't have to go there.
So, get your head out your ass. It's not our place to tell other countries to get their shit together. There are many countries that don't have their shit together but you don't see us going after them do you? It's only when we have interests such as "Resourses" that help put gas in your car and the lights on in your crib, that we start screwin with people.
If that was the case then why have a United Nations?
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Complain, complain, complain. Tell those countries to get their shiit together and we won't have to go there.
Perhaps if we left some, not all, countries alone they could get their shit together on their own?
You're entitled to your opinion, but blind faith without critical thinking leads to terrible things. Here's some more fat to chew on:
No WMDs yet (http://www.msnbc.com/news/895392.asp?0sl=-33)
I'm not saying that WMDs won't be found, but don't you find it the least bit troubling that we have yet to find any concrete evidence of WMDs after nearly a month of war even though we supposedly had all of this intelligence proving Iraq had WMDs? Nevermind the fact that information we had about Iraq pursuing nuclear weapons was COMPLETELY FABRICATED and now no one seems to know who did it.
Critical thinking dude. Practice it.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:16 PM
I'm glad you don't run the country Groove.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Doug:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Complain, complain, complain. Tell those countries to get their shiit together and we won't have to go there.
Perhaps if we left some, not all, countries alone they could get their shit together on their own?
You're entitled to your opinion, but blind faith without critical thinking leads to terrible things. Here's some more fat to chew on:
No WMDs yet (http://www.msnbc.com/news/895392.asp?0sl=-33)
Can we win the War first, then look for WMD. We won't let you lead the troops.
I'm not saying that WMDs won't be found, but don't you find it the least bit troubling that we have yet to find any concrete evidence of WMDs after nearly a month of war even though we supposedly had all of this intelligence proving Iraq had WMDs? Nevermind the fact that information we had about Iraq pursuing nuclear weapons was COMPLETELY FABRICATED and now no one seems to know who did it.
Critical thinking dude. Practice it. </font>[/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Can we win the War first, then look for WMD. We won't let you lead the troops.
Explain to me why can't we do both. Then explain to me why you feel I am trying to dictate how to engage in this conflict by raising legitimate issues. Critical thinking. Practice it.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I'm glad you don't run the country Groove. And it's a shame that you don't know who is really running "Our" country.
Peace
I'm beginning to have a deep appreciation for George Lucus now......
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:35 PM
To many movies Groove.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:36 PM
Basecore, with the exception of Somalia, you ever wonder why our military has yet to go into Africa and stop the atrocities going on in some of the countries within this continent?
Shit gets deeper.
Peace
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Doug:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Can we win the War first, then look for WMD. We won't let you lead the troops.
Explain to me why can't we do both. Then explain to me why you feel I am trying to dictate how to engage in this conflict by raising legitimate issues. Critical thinking. Practice it. </font>[/QUOTE]Come on you should be able to figure that one out. How can you fight the enemy and search at the same time. Watch you will see, let this thang play out.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
To many movies Groove. EXACTEMUNDO!!!!!!!! The fact that you responded with an answer such as yours sums up how foolish and ignorant your statements are.
Ohh, and it's "TOO" many movies.
[ April 08, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
To many movies Groove. EXACTEMUNDO!!!!!!!! The fact that you responded with an answer such as yours sums up how foolish and ignorant your statements are.
Ohh, and it's "TOO" many movies. </font>[/QUOTE]What makes you think your statements aren't ignorant.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Doug:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Can we win the War first, then look for WMD. We won't let you lead the troops.
Explain to me why can't we do both. Then explain to me why you feel I am trying to dictate how to engage in this conflict by raising legitimate issues. Critical thinking. Practice it. </font>[/QUOTE]Come on you should be able to figure that one out. How can you fight the enemy and search at the same time. Watch you will see, let this thang play out. </font>[/QUOTE]two words:
Jessica Lynch
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
To many movies Groove. EXACTEMUNDO!!!!!!!! The fact that you responded with an answer such as yours sums up how foolish and ignorant your statements are.
Ohh, and it's "TOO" many movies. </font>[/QUOTE]What makes you think your statements aren't ignorant. </font>[/QUOTE]Context clues man context clues!!!!
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Come on you should be able to figure that one out. How can you fight the enemy and search at the same time.
We're talking about the almighty US military here. Not only that, but when you have a hole in your schedule, peep some of the Centcom briefings and see if they don't indicate that they are searching right now for WMDs. That is part of the reason they found those chemicals yesterday which, so far, have not proven to be weapons. Your points hold no water.
Watch you will see, let this thang play out.I am watching and hopeful, for our sake, that they find something. I wonder sometimes if you're watching.
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:43 PM
Now your a school teacher. What do you do for a living?
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:45 PM
I'm watching.
Originally posted by Doug:
I am watching and hopeful, for our sake, that they find something.This is the most profound statement yet. America is going to come up looking sh*tty if "we" don't find those WMD soon. After all, "we" have killed thousands of their citizens, decimated their country, etc.
It always troubled me that Iraq was trying to prove a negtive. That's an extremely tough thing to do.
Peace
TAC
[ April 08, 2003, 01:50 PM: Message edited by: TAC ]
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:48 PM
Basecore, you still haven't answered my question.
If 9-11 never happened, do you think we would be in Iraq right now?
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Basecore, you still haven't answered my question.
If 9-11 never happened, do you think we would be in Iraq right now? I will answer after you stop the personal attacks, Mr. school teacher.
Pete Nice
04-08-2003, 12:50 PM
basscore....
name one country in this world that is better off because of u.s. interevention? most third world countries are run by horrible dictators, so why only go after saddam? have seen what "democracy" has done for russia? they now have a bigger and more violent blackmarket than ever and if you think waiting in line at a mcdondalds is democrarcy you need to re-think that. there are also other countries/leaders in the middle east that openly support people like bin laden. why are they not being sought(sp) after. tell me this.... how many more generations of iraqi's will hate america when this is done? when some kid wakes up and see's his dead family next to him.... in there home. not the battlefield but their home. how many american troops come back and tell stories about how they hate "those camel jockeys." how many generations are going to forget what this was about and just hate? this is the 21st century and we got smart bombs with stupid people using them. more than anything you should be sad that everyday people like yourself are gonna die because we choose to give over our "freedom" to an elite few across the world....
And the odds are growing that they have killed Saddam and his sons too.
This is one big human tragedy... :(
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by square root:
basscore....
name one country in this world that is better off because of u.s. interevention? most third world countries are run by horrible dictators, so why only go after saddam? have seen what "democracy" has done for russia? they now have a bigger and more violent blackmarket than ever and if you think waiting in line at a mcdondalds is democrarcy you need to re-think that. there are also other countries/leaders in the middle east that openly support people like bin laden. why are they not being sought(sp) after. tell me this.... how many more generations of iraqi's will hate america when this is done? when some kid wakes up and see's his dead family next to him.... in there home. not the battlefield but their home. how many american troops come back and tell stories about how they hate "those camel jockeys." how many generations are going to forget what this was about and just hate? this is the 21st century and we got smart bombs with stupid people using them. more than anything you should be sad that everyday people like yourself are gonna die because we choose to give over our "freedom" to an elite few across the world.... If we went after those countries you would have something else to complain about. Now that is so true.
GROOVE VICTIM
04-08-2003, 12:52 PM
Yes, I'm a school teacher. My name is Mr. Hand and you must be Jeff Spicolli.
I'll write on the board "I don't know" and leave it on there for the rest of the year.
I'm done.
If you understood that one, I'd be very surprised.
Leslie
04-08-2003, 12:55 PM
The Wizard of Oz - the Scarecrow - too many movies indeed! graemlins/grinyes.gif
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Leslie:
The Wizard of Oz - the Scarecrow - too many movies indeed! graemlins/grinyes.gif You played the Scarecrow in school.
Leslie
04-08-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
The Wizard of Oz - the Scarecrow - too many movies indeed! graemlins/grinyes.gif You played the Scarecrow in school. </font>[/QUOTE]Don't punk out on another thread - it shows how immature you are. Oh yea, that invite to the next DHP party is still very much open - some how I think you still won't take the opportunity to show up son....the fact is your arguments are weak because you have done ZERO homework. It's obvious you don't read anything other than the Star Ledger (or Star Liar as my Dad likes to call it). Its obvious the only programs you watch are the local and national news networks or their cable affilliates. It's obvious you have never studied any type of politics or made the effort on your own to learn about the history of not only american but world politics. Its obvious you have ZERO knowledge of your own African American history in this country. Its obvious you have no knowlege about war and what it does to people, societies, etc. You know why I can say all this, because of the unknowledgable comments you make. You start "debates" to "push" buttons; for what reason? Are you trying to make a name for yourself, you trying to get some type of respect? You come off looking under educated. What's more, you have the inability to read some of the comments that are made by those that don't agree with you and think critically about what is being stated by the opposing side. If you want to be a patriot fine, but at least be a knowleable patriot who has a basic understanding of the issues that one chooses to bring up and debate. A while ago I challenged you to look to some alternative news sources to get another perspective on what's going on inthe world. Your obvious fear that some of us on this page might be right about a few things obviously kept you from pursuing any futher knowledge than what you already posses. Shame, you passion could actually have lead to a learned mind, but instead you take the easy way out and dumb yourself down. The saddest part is you won't even see in this diatribe of mine that I actually am routing for you to gain the knowledge you need in order to debate critically on this page - instead you will again dumb yourself down and see it as a personal attack. Sad graemlins/jpshakehead.gif In the meantime I look forward to meeting you in person, cause trust this Sista will step to you and tell you all this directly to your face.
DONE!
mblack
04-08-2003, 01:28 PM
Someone mentioned Serbia before, in Serbia the US helped Muslims.
In Iraq the US is helping Muslims (one of the reasons for war whether you like it or not).
We can moan all day long but there is always another reason for an action, we can't ignore all the reasons and we can't pick and choose, it's all connected.
There are plenty of people that hate the US (I am not one of them) for their own selfish reasons.
As someone once said (IM sure you'll remind/correct me, I just love this place...) you cant please all the people all the time.
I support the coalition troops and wish them a safe and quick return
Basecore Boy
04-08-2003, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
The Wizard of Oz - the Scarecrow - too many movies indeed! graemlins/grinyes.gif You played the Scarecrow in school. </font>[/QUOTE]Don't punk out on another thread - it shows how immature you are. Oh yea, that invite to the next DHP party is still very much open - some how I think you still won't take the opportunity to show up son....the fact is your arguments are weak because you have done ZERO homework. It's obvious you don't read anything other than the Star Ledger (or Star Liar as my Dad likes to call it). Its obvious the only programs you watch are the local and national news networks or their cable affilliates. It's obvious you have never studied any type of politics or made the effort on your own to learn about the history of not only american but world politics. Its obvious you have ZERO knowledge of your own African American history in this country. Its obvious you have no knowlege about war and what it does to people, societies, etc. You know why I can say all this, because of the unknowledgable comments you make. You start "debates" to "push" buttons; for what reason? Are you trying to make a name for yourself, you trying to get some type of respect? You come off looking under educated. What's more, you have the inability to read some of the comments that are made by those that don't agree with you and think critically about what is being stated by the opposing side. If you want to be a patriot fine, but at least be a knowleable patriot who has a basic understanding of the issues that one chooses to bring up and debate. A while ago I challenged you to look to some alternative news sources to get another perspective on what's going on inthe world. Your obvious fear that some of us on this page might be right about a few things obviously kept you from pursuing any futher knowledge than what you already posses. Shame, you passion could actually have lead to a learned mind, but instead you take the easy way out and dumb yourself down. The saddest part is you won't even see in this diatribe of mine that I actually am routing for you to gain the knowledge you need in order to debate critically on this page - instead you will again dumb yourself down and see it as a personal attack. Sad graemlins/jpshakehead.gif In the meantime I look forward to meeting you in person, cause trust this Sista will step to you and tell you all this directly to your face.
DONE! </font>[/QUOTE]I'm done too. Respect. You've said enough about someone you don't know.
Pete Nice
04-08-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by square root:
basscore....
name one country in this world that is better off because of u.s. interevention? most third world countries are run by horrible dictators, so why only go after saddam? have seen what "democracy" has done for russia? they now have a bigger and more violent blackmarket than ever and if you think waiting in line at a mcdondalds is democrarcy you need to re-think that. there are also other countries/leaders in the middle east that openly support people like bin laden. why are they not being sought(sp) after. tell me this.... how many more generations of iraqi's will hate america when this is done? when some kid wakes up and see's his dead family next to him.... in there home. not the battlefield but their home. how many american troops come back and tell stories about how they hate "those camel jockeys." how many generations are going to forget what this was about and just hate? this is the 21st century and we got smart bombs with stupid people using them. more than anything you should be sad that everyday people like yourself are gonna die because we choose to give over our "freedom" to an elite few across the world.... If we went after those countries you would have something else to complain about. Now that is so true. </font>[/QUOTE]we're talking life and death.... you're telling me i'm complaining? let me tell you something: wake up! our country isn't always right or righteous. you think this about your freedom.... this about power. war is always about power. if this was about justice we would have all our efftort concentrated on bin laden, not the so called accesory to the crime. and about your freedom, check out some the new laws pending and those already passed. your freedoms are dwindling quicker than you think, but you know that since your such a patriot right?
darrow
04-08-2003, 01:56 PM
I was thinking...(the notion of wait and see made me think this)...
Even if we do find WMDs (when did that become an acronym?) and someone says "ah ha! See! We were right!", finding the weapons doesn't justify the action taken. Or in other words, the ends does not justify the means. To say it does somehow indicates that there were no alternatives left. The finding of weapons only means that weapons were there. Who's to say that inspectors wouldn't have ultimately discovered those weapons if given the chance (we'll never know now). What was the rush to circumvent the inspection process, kill people, and destroy cities?
konbit
04-08-2003, 02:10 PM
How did this thred get so long? Arguing with Basecore is like arguing with a brick wall...it's pointless.
At least Bold Soul can argue the pro-war side with facts, history and logic. Basecore has yet to provide sources or evidence of any kind for his "arguments."
Bascore, I suggest you go check out Michael Savage (http://michaelsavage.com) ...I bet you'll like the site.
djmarbll
04-08-2003, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
[/qb]Do you know the history of Irag? That is where life began. Then Saddam turns it into hell. Read your bible. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Ok, I wasn't going to join in this discussion because now that the war is in full force, I'm hoping that we take control of Baghdad so we our troops can come home as soon as possible. Noe I'm not saying I'm pro-war, but once the fighting starts and you're a part of it, or you know people who are a part of it, you want them to be successful. But please don't put religion into this argument. Then you start to mix beliefs with facts, and that's like mixing oil with water.
djmarbll
04-08-2003, 02:19 PM
Michael Savage sounds a lot like Matt Hale. Where is Bold Soul? Even though we disagree sometimes, at least he brings research and thought-provoking dialogue to the table.
Bold Soul
04-08-2003, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by konbit:
At least Bold Soul can argue the pro-war side with facts, history and logic.Konbit - While I appreciate your statement, I must remind you that I have made no statement regarding my views on the war. As far as anyone knows, I am neither pro nor anti.
Bold Soul
04-08-2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by djmarbll:
Where is Bold Soul? Even though we disagree sometimes, at least he brings research and thought-provoking dialogue to the table. Although I have been watching, I'm keeping a low profile as things within my control metamorphose.
djmarbll
04-08-2003, 03:10 PM
I can dig it. graemlins/cool_shades.gif
I sure hope you're the dude that I am thinking
of.......(that captain America dude who lifts all the weights)....if so,
Why not meet me in Chicago, I'd say the south side but I know you wont come there, so why not the North side....we can rendevous in a good-ole fashion alley, and then you can explain it all to me....... smile.gif ....
Its you weak, soft, no hearted punk ass AMERICAN whites(no offense to international cats, nor some of the American whites who are on the level, sincerely my apology) who are crippling this country. The only way that you got something is thru the spoils of slavery and your dubious system of inequality (its lucid).
A country that your barbarian fathers stole, then stole the laborers, and you speak of the word America with dignity.....Please explain these historical facts, and when you're finished elaborate on how your father raped my mother, while your mother was looking out the window watching it all happen. The Romans said it best, you're just barbarians, with material success to cover the shi*t up!.....
Crime!
School of Visual Arts
04-08-2003, 04:59 PM
may PEACE prevail on EARTH
Originally posted by Hk:
I sure hope you're the dude that I am thinking
of.......(that captain America dude who lifts all the weights)....if so,
Why not meet me in Chicago, I'd say the south side but I know you wont come there, so why not the North side....we can rendevous in a good-ole fashion alley, and then you can explain it all to me....... smile.gif ....
Its you weak, soft, no hearted punk ass AMERICAN whites(no offense to international cats, nor some of the American whites who are on the level, sincerely my apology) who are crippling this country. The only way that you got something is thru the spoils of slavery and your dubious system of inequality (its lucid).
A country that your barbarian fathers stole, then stole the laborers, and you speak of the word America with dignity.....Please explain these historical facts, and when you're finished elaborate on how your father raped my mother, while your mother was looking out the window watching it all happen. The Romans said it best, you're just barbarians, with material success to cover the shi*t up!.....
Crime! Dude, are you alright?
martino
04-08-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Doug:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Complain, complain, complain. Tell those countries to get their shiit together and we won't have to go there.
I'm not saying that WMDs won't be found, but don't you find it the least bit troubling that we have yet to find any concrete evidence of WMDs after nearly a month of war even though we supposedly had all of this intelligence proving Iraq had WMDs? Nevermind the fact that information we had about Iraq pursuing nuclear weapons was COMPLETELY FABRICATED and now no one seems to know who did it.
</font>[/QUOTE]great point you brought up
Mah'chew
04-09-2003, 12:59 AM
I can't see the teargas for the dollar signs in my eyes, what has a man got left to fight for when he has lost his freedom, by the look of this human-jungle it ain't just the Iraqies that have been bleeding!
When's the next smokescreen coming?
A 'told you so' moment from the non-warmongers amoungst us - there are now 100,000 of young muslims all-over the world signing up to fight for Iraq, they see it as a holy war to destroy US and UK lives - this could be Basra, Birmingham, Baltimore, Bangkok, whereever your backyard is...
We are now the agressors, we're all slavedrivers in the eyes of young muslims everywhere - that's where the war is played out in the minds of these young people :(
mdpm99
04-09-2003, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by konbit:
How did this thred get so long? Arguing with Basecore is like arguing with a brick wall...it's pointless.
At least Bold Soul can argue the pro-war side with facts, history and logic. Basecore has yet to provide sources or evidence of any kind for his "arguments."
Bascore, I suggest you go check out Michael Savage (http://michaelsavage.com) ...I bet you'll like the site. http://www.metrotimes.com/homeland1.swf
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Ron la Rock
04-09-2003, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Mathius:
I can't see the teargas for the dollar signs in my eyes, what has a man got left to fight for when he has lost his freedom, by the look of this human-jungle it ain't just the Iraqies that have been bleeding!
When's the next smokescreen coming?
A 'told you so' moment from the non-warmongers amoungst us - there are now 100,000 of young muslims all-over the world signing up to fight for Iraq, they see it as a holy war to destroy US and UK lives - this could be Basra, Birmingham, Baltimore, Bangkok, whereever your backyard is...
We are now the agressors, we're all slavedrivers in the eyes of young muslims everywhere - that's where the war is played out in the minds of these young people :( the backlash is comin round this attack maybe coming 2 a close but fallout has just begun!
Martin Red
04-09-2003, 04:33 AM
I don't hate Americans just the leadership
NEWS just in
War correspondent has just informed us that due to U.S.A being so late in previous wars is the reason why they wanted to be so Punctual in Iraq.
F U C K BUSH - any way you can graemlins/rofl.gif
mblack
04-09-2003, 08:06 AM
Sky news-live
US tanks are in the centre of Baghdad and hundreds of Iraqis are jumping with joy while hammering and trying to bring down Saddam's statue in the square.
Some Iraqis shout" Bush good, Bush good" while others hold a sign" US go home-wankers". There you go, first day of democracy in Iraq.
Also loads of reports on saddam&sons dead.
Iraq is almost completely free.
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Originally posted by mblack:
Sky news-live
US tanks are in the centre of Baghdad and hundreds of Iraqis are jumping with joy while hammering and trying to bring down Saddam's statue in the square.
Some Iraqis shout" Bush good, Bush good" while others hold a sign" US go home-wankers". There you go, first day of democracy in Iraq.
Also loads of reports on saddam&sons dead.
Iraq is almost completely free.
smile.gif Iraq is an occupied country..That is not the same as a 'free country', mblack... smile.gif
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Some people are just hatin on America and then benefit from it's sacrifice. VERY TRUE!
Cheddar
04-09-2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Albert D.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Some people are just hatin on America and then benefit from it's sacrifice. VERY TRUE! </font>[/QUOTE]Are you two fellers saying that this is a course of action you would have taken?? When your major allies (France to name the most obvious...not your pawns or your proxying state/nation/region) object to your actions??
mblack
04-09-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by lyot:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mblack:
Sky news-live
US tanks are in the centre of Baghdad and hundreds of Iraqis are jumping with joy while hammering and trying to bring down Saddam's statue in the square.
Some Iraqis shout" Bush good, Bush good" while others hold a sign" US go home-wankers". There you go, first day of democracy in Iraq.
Also loads of reports on saddam&sons dead.
Iraq is almost completely free.
smile.gif Iraq is an occupied country..That is not the same as a 'free country', mblack... smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Hi bro, watch sky, the statue is down everyone is jumping on it.
I know what you mean about occupation.
Lets hope it lasts a year or two(with UN and US run government) and then-free democratic election.
You know Iraqis will benefit at the end,just look at us.
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