Question for David Mancuso re: "re-entry" records

[Jolyon]

Time to put your thinking cap on mate!

I was reading about "re-entry" records you played at the loft and wondered about any examples?

As these are often my favourite kind of records...can I have some examples?

I know Ozo - Anambra and Aeo - Brian Briggs...but what about some others?

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[mdpm99]

Catch u on the rebound - gatta graemlins/bolt.gif

d

Ps.

re-entry begins somewhere around the point when you are two thirds of the way. so if we are talking about 9 hour party then after about 6 hours you start your rentry. Ozo is when your toes touch the earth again. We could be talking about a lot of records here. Remember it is very gradual....

[ August 12, 2003, 09:03 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[C hristian]

is this some kind of musical journey progression theory according to David? Please elaborate! What do you mean by re-entry?

is there anything else to it?

maybe there is a webpage..

[Jolyon]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Catch u on the rebound - gatta graemlins/bolt.gif

d

Ps.

re-entry begins somewhere around the point when you are two thirds of the way. so if we are talking about 9 hour party then after about 6 hours you start your rentry. Ozo is when your toes touch the earth again. We could be talking about a lot of records here. Remember it is very gradual.... ah you have a point there. maybe records for the last hour/half hour would be a better question to ask.

[imported_Chr_stopher]

;)

[mdpm99]

3 bardos

the beginning, the circus, re-entry

d

[C hristian]

i did a search . got it. thanks.

[liL Ray]

I remember Club when re-entry was something that involved trying to come back into the club without paying.....or some other nasty shit that got you slapped.....

I can see it now, I'm at a party ten years from now, and some young whippersnapper is telling the trainspotters around the booth "ok, I'm about to go into the re-entry format now" and hearing somebody yell out "RE-ENTRY, RE-ENTRY.....YEAAAAHHHHHH!!!"....or worse, a new genre of club music will be born and listed under "the RE-ENTRY" section at your local music store.

oh boy.....this is how it starts...stop the train, let me off here....stop the madness.... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif graemlins/bolt.gif

[ August 12, 2003, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I remember Club when re-entry was something that involved trying to come back in the club without paying.....or some other nasty shit that got you slapped.....

I can see it now, I'm at a party ten years from now, and some young whippersnapper is telling the trainspotters around the booth "ok, I'm about to go into the re-entry format now" and hearing somebody yell out "RE-ENTRY, RE-ENTRY.....YEAAAAHHHHHH!!!"....or worse, a new genre of club music will be born and listed under "the RE-ENTRY" section at youur local music store.

oh boy.....this is how it starts...stop the train, let me off hear....stop the madness.... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif graemlins/bolt.gif Greetings liL Ray.

Using far eastern concepts regarding spiritual journeys, .....some which are used with chanting OM as an example (the spiritual source of all sound) -- three bardos are referred too. This has been going on for thousands of years to this day Ray, nothing new "hear." There are three Bardos....the third Bardo is refered to as "re-entry."

The one you are refering to in no way applies to what has been said. NO RE-ENTRY is an opposite term.

Re-entry is a mental and emotional event ... not a physical one. It applies to re-entering back to the so called "norm" day to day routines and so forth.


For example....when a musical journey is in full bloom it can become a delicate matter when the music finally has to stop. A bad re-entry is that the party is going on ...all is well and then it is closing time and suddenly without warning the music is shut off and the lights come on and you more or less have been told to get the FOK out. That is an extreme example of a bad re-entry and I have seen it done many times. That one sec that the sound is turned off from full volumn and lights come on can ruin your head for that entire evening. Get my drift?

Now a bad entry/and or beginning I believe is when you walk into a room and the DJ is blasting the music and no one is there or just maybe 5 people or so and the eve just began. That makes no sense to me at all.

A DJ should be the calm center not the cause of chaos and pain. One has to think "outside the booth" sometimes.

smile.gif

d

Beyond the music, awaits the silence

[ August 12, 2003, 02:40 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I remember Club when re-entry was something that involved trying to come back in the club without paying.....or some other nasty shit that got you slapped.....

I can see it now, I'm at a party ten years from now, and some young whippersnapper is telling the trainspotters around the booth "ok, I'm about to go into the re-entry format now" and hearing somebody yell out "RE-ENTRY, RE-ENTRY.....YEAAAAHHHHHH!!!"....or worse, a new genre of club music will be born and listed under "the RE-ENTRY" section at youur local music store.

oh boy.....this is how it starts...stop the train, let me off hear....stop the madness.... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif graemlins/bolt.gif Greetings liL Ray.

Using far eastern concepts regarding spiritual journeys, .....some which are used with chanting OM as an example (the spiritual source of all sound) -- three bardos are referred too. This has been going on for thousands of years to this day Ray, nothing new "hear."

Re-entry is a mental and emotional event ... not a physical one. I applies to re-entering back to the so called "norm" day to day routines and so forth.

For example....when a musical journey is in full bloom it can become a delicate matter when the music finally has to stop. A bad re-entry is that the party is going on ...all is well and then it is closing time and suddenly without warning the music is shut off and the lights come on and you more or less have been told to get the FOK out. That is an extreme example of a bad re-entry and I have seen it done many times. That one sec that the sound is turned off from full volumn and lights come on can ruin your head for that entire evening. Get my drift?

Now a bad entry/and or beginning I believe is when you walk into a room and the DJ is blasting the music and no one is there or just maybe 5 people or so and the eve just began. That makes no sense to me at all.

A DJ should be the calm center not the cause of chaos and pain. One has to think "outside the booth" sometimes.

smile.gif

d

Beyond the music, awaits the silence </font>[/QUOTE]always remember, everything is not the same for all...it should never be....also, some like the chaos....some like to be taken out (or in) on a chaotic wave.

What's one person stimulation is another's boredom.

[ August 12, 2003, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Catch u on the rebound - gatta graemlins/bolt.gif

d

Ps.

re-entry begins somewhere around the point when you are two thirds of the way. so if we are talking about 9 hour party then after about 6 hours you start your rentry. Ozo is when your toes touch the earth again. We could be talking about a lot of records here. Remember it is very gradual....

[ August 12, 2003, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: Christopher L. Aquilo ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I remember Club when re-entry was something that involved trying to come back in the club without paying.....or some other nasty shit that got you slapped.....

I can see it now, I'm at a party ten years from now, and some young whippersnapper is telling the trainspotters around the booth "ok, I'm about to go into the re-entry format now" and hearing somebody yell out "RE-ENTRY, RE-ENTRY.....YEAAAAHHHHHH!!!"....or worse, a new genre of club music will be born and listed under "the RE-ENTRY" section at youur local music store.

oh boy.....this is how it starts...stop the train, let me off hear....stop the madness.... graemlins/jpshakehead.gif graemlins/bolt.gif Greetings liL Ray.

Using far eastern concepts regarding spiritual journeys, .....some which are used with chanting OM as an example (the spiritual source of all sound) -- three bardos are referred too. This has been going on for thousands of years to this day Ray, nothing new "hear."

Re-entry is a mental and emotional event ... not a physical one. I applies to re-entering back to the so called "norm" day to day routines and so forth.

For example....when a musical journey is in full bloom it can become a delicate matter when the music finally has to stop. A bad re-entry is that the party is going on ...all is well and then it is closing time and suddenly without warning the music is shut off and the lights come on and you more or less have been told to get the FOK out. That is an extreme example of a bad re-entry and I have seen it done many times. That one sec that the sound is turned off from full volumn and lights come on can ruin your head for that entire evening. Get my drift?

Now a bad entry/and or beginning I believe is when you walk into a room and the DJ is blasting the music and no one is there or just maybe 5 people or so and the eve just began. That makes no sense to me at all.

A DJ should be the calm center not the cause of chaos and pain. One has to think "outside the booth" sometimes.

smile.gif

d

Beyond the music, awaits the silence </font>[/QUOTE]always remember, everything is not the same for all...it should never be....also, some like the chaos....some like to be taken out (or in) on a chaotic wave.

What's one person stimulation is another's boredom. </font>[/QUOTE]One thing one has question oneself at the end of the day...."It is different, but is it better.?"

You can kept the choas cause there is plenty of that going around in the world today and I don't want or need any more...I rather the music blow my mind instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is. After all isn't it about peace and harmony rather than chaos or what someone wants to control us with? The music should be allowed stand on its own....the DJ should stand by that as a faithfull friend.

d

[ August 12, 2003, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
[QUOTE] instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move...

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
Catch u on the rebound - gatta graemlins/bolt.gif

d

Ps.

re-entry begins somewhere around the point when you are two thirds of the way. so if we are talking about 9 hour party then after about 6 hours you start your rentry. Ozo is when your toes touch the earth again. We could be talking about a lot of records here. Remember it is very gradual.... ah you have a point there. maybe records for the last hour/half hour would be a better question to ask. </font>[/QUOTE]They could be almost anything....lot has to do with the story line....staying on message and etc.
There is no set of records. True the very last record might be consider a signature...but that is about it.

d

[rob gregory]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move... </font>Ray,

You mean dictator in the sense that the dj has the equipment, records etc and you listen to what he/she plays? True, not a democracy in that sense.

[ August 12, 2003, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: PhoreAyem ]

[Jolyon]

Are you calling me a whippersnapper Ray? Hope so! I'm 32 in a few weeks and it'd be nice to think I can still whippersnap with the best of them.

I asked the question because I was reading about David's idea of the three stages...and was interested in some examples of records he considers 're-entry' records like Anambra - just interested in finding out some more records like this that maybe I don't know. I guess it's sort of train spotting but it's more about finding out about great music.

[jimmymack-2000]

Originally posted by PhoreAyem:

You mean dictator in the sense that the dj has the equipment, records etc and you listen to what he/she plays? True, not a democracy in that sense. Remember a year or so ago some club in L.A. set up an iPod "DJ" station, so patrons could mix their own soundtrack for the evening? Could it be people are wising up to the fact that $15 or $20 to go see a DJ who probably will play 96% crap music isn't worth it, and they can hear what they want to hear at the aforementioned venue?

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by PhoreAyem:

You mean dictator in the sense that the dj has the equipment, records etc and you listen to what he/she plays? True, not a democracy in that sense. Remember a year or so ago some club in L.A. set up an iPod "DJ" station, so patrons could mix their own soundtrack for the evening? Could it be people are wising up to the fact that $15 or $20 to go see a DJ who probably will play 96% crap music isn't worth it, and they can hear what they want to hear at the aforementioned venue? </font>[/QUOTE]so hearing the crap of 200 others is better than the djs? I wonder what happened to that club and its concept?

Jolyon, the "wippersnapper" coment was not personally directed to anyone, but more on the abstract level, but if you want to take it as such, then, I'm no dictator to tell you different....hahahahahaha...

[Jolyon]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by PhoreAyem:

You mean dictator in the sense that the dj has the equipment, records etc and you listen to what he/she plays? True, not a democracy in that sense. Remember a year or so ago some club in L.A. set up an iPod "DJ" station, so patrons could mix their own soundtrack for the evening? Could it be people are wising up to the fact that $15 or $20 to go see a DJ who probably will play 96% crap music isn't worth it, and they can hear what they want to hear at the aforementioned venue? </font>[/QUOTE]so hearing the crap of 200 others is better than the djs? I wonder what happened to that club and its concept?

Jolyon, the "wippersnapper" coment was not personally directed to anyone, but more on the abstract level, but if you want to take it as such, then, I'm no dictator to tell you different....hahahahahaha... </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/remybussi.gif I like the idea of being one smile.gif

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move... </font>movin....brass construction

.

This is simply about surrendering to the glory of the music. Nothing less and nothing more.

It is also about shedding one's ego and become one with everything.

I strongly suggest you look into "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" [Ego-death) Goes back thousand s of years from our ancestors -- it is about rebirth. The fokin idea is to get away from the damn ego ... so that we won't turn into something inert.

Anyway, this is bigger than the both of us.

smile.gif

d

[ August 12, 2003, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[Tony Cano]

i hate when i see a dj pushing the system when there is nobody there.

[Jolyon]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
i hate when i see a dj pushing the system when there is nobody there. haha and tearing the shit out of the EQ and special effects!

[Brian]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move... </font>movin....brass construction

.

This is simply about surrendering to the glory of the music. Nothing less and nothing more.

It is also about shedding one's ego and become one with everything.

I strongly suggest you look into "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" [Ego-death) Goes back thousand s of years from our ancestors -- it is about rebirth and/or remothering experience through music and sound.

The fokin idea is to get away from the damn ego ... so that we won't turn into something inert.

Anyway, this is bigger than the both of us.

smile.gif

d </font>[/QUOTE]David I don't recall the Tibetan Book of the Dead speaking specifically about music, but it's been a good 10 years or so since I read about it. Could you provide some examples of how it mentions music?

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move... </font>movin....brass construction

.

This is simply about surrendering to the glory of the music. Nothing less and nothing more.

It is also about shedding one's ego and become one with everything.

I strongly suggest you look into "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" [Ego-death) Goes back thousand s of years from our ancestors -- it is about rebirth and/or remothering experience through music and sound.

The fokin idea is to get away from the damn ego ... so that we won't turn into something inert.

Anyway, this is bigger than the both of us.

smile.gif

d </font>[/QUOTE]ego? what ego? who's talking about ego?

ok, here goes...let's end this little game...

sometimes I like the 3 bardos act and sometimes I like the reckless abandonment(a complete surrender of inhibitions)presentations....there is a time and place for it all, but I think it's boring if we should only go with one way and take it as gospel. No ego there, just giving an opinion. I find it a little elitist to criticize one method over the other.

I love mental chess...it let's each player dig deep into thought....it's great until one player tosses the pieces away in disgust....thanks for the game.

[ August 12, 2003, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by This is simply about surrendering to the glory of the music. Nothing less and nothing more.

It is also about shedding one's ego and become one with everything.

I strongly suggest you look into "The Tibetan Book of the Dead [Ego-death) -- it is about rebirth and/or remothering experience through music and sound.

The fokin idea is to get away from the damn ego ... so that we won't turn into something inert.

Anyway, this is bigger than the both of us.

smile.gif

d


i hate when i see a dj pushing the system when there is nobody there. Greetings Tony smile.gif

I couldn't agree with you more...

"See how good I can play....see how I am playing the music!!"

Excuse me......BUTT u r in mechanical mode (and I do smell a butt) ....and remember unless you recorded that music you are presenting then get over it .....surrender to the music if that is what you truly say you love and do it from the very bottom of your heart and soul.


d

Why don't sheep shrink when it rains???

[mdpm99]

Brian:

You are absolutely correct and thanks for mentioning this. Got my shoe laces tangled....

1- Om is the music/sound/chant

2 - Tibet bk. - bardos

Thank you sire smile.gif

d

[Brian]

ok, i wasn't trying to correct you i was just curious to see how my memory was holding up smile.gif

[ August 12, 2003, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: Brian ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

instead of having someone acting in a dictorial mode....I'll think and act for myself.
The DJ is not God, .....rather the Music is.

d the above statement might be a contradiction....but going by your own statements, when you "djay"(oh, I hate that saying) or set the 3 bardos, aren't you being a dictator?....as a dj, doesn't part of the job requirement DEMANDS that you be a dictator?

I guess it boils down to who's the better dictator....

...your move... </font>movin....brass construction

.

This is simply about surrendering to the glory of the music. Nothing less and nothing more.

It is also about shedding one's ego and become one with everything.

I strongly suggest you look into "The Tibetan Book of the Dead" [Ego-death) Goes back thousand s of years from our ancestors -- it is about rebirth and/or remothering experience through music and sound.

The fokin idea is to get away from the damn ego ... so that we won't turn into something inert.

Anyway, this is bigger than the both of us.

smile.gif

d </font>[/QUOTE]ego? what ego? who's talking about ego?

ok, here goes...let's end this little game...

sometimes I like the 3 bardos act and sometimes I like the reckless abandonment(a complete surrender of inhibitions)presentations....there is a time and place for it all, but I think it's boring if we should only go with one way and take it as gospel. No ego there, just giving an opinion. I find it a little elitist to criticize one method over the other.

I love mental chess...it let's each player dig deep into thought....it's great until one player tosses the pieces away in disgust....thanks for the game. </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru hoops & loops....but then again I am not so sure if you mean it the way you are presenting it now.


d

If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.

[ August 12, 2003, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Brian:
ok, i wasn't trying to correct you i was just curious to see how my memory was holding up smile.gif Music certainly can be applied....

smile.gif

d

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
[QUOTE] Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru loops....but then again I am so sure if you mean it the you are presenting it now.


d
oh, I guess folks can't debate around here or think a little...nobody can have or entertain a difference of opinion....everybody must go along with what certain folks say as gospel...everything must be dumbed down....the lowest common denominator rules?...

...please see and read nubiansita's topic on truth and honesty.....it hits home....I'll quit now, it's not fun....it's not funny...anymore.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru loops....but then again I am so sure if you mean it the you are presenting it now.


d
oh, I guess folks can't debate around here or think a little...nobody can have or entertain a difference of opinion....everybody must go along with what certain folks say as gospel...everything must be dumbed down....the lowest common denominator rules?...

...please see and read nubiansita's topic on truth and honesty.....it hits home....I'll quit now, it's not fun....it's not funny...anymore. </font>Next time we should both try to do better than this.....

peace

d

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru loops....but then again I am so sure if you mean it the you are presenting it now.


d
oh, I guess folks can't debate around here or think a little...nobody can have or entertain a difference of opinion....everybody must go along with what certain folks say as gospel...everything must be dumbed down....the lowest common denominator rules?...

...please see and read nubiansita's topic on truth and honesty.....it hits home....I'll quit now, it's not fun....it's not funny...anymore. </font>Next time we should both try to do better than this.....

peace

d </font>[/QUOTE]whoa, whoa...don't make me out to be the bad man here...please don't make it seem like I did something wrong by debating...I refuse to go along with this thinking....no, if you felt you needed to have done something different in the convo or you feel you behave poorly, that's on you(for the record I don't think so), but please leave me out of the "naughty, we should do better" scolding....I have no regrets on how I carried on the dialogue.

[ August 12, 2003, 04:41 PM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru loops....but then again I am so sure if you mean it the you are presenting it now.


d
oh, I guess folks can't debate around here or think a little...nobody can have or entertain a difference of opinion....everybody must go along with what certain folks say as gospel...everything must be dumbed down....the lowest common denominator rules?...

...please see and read nubiansita's topic on truth and honesty.....it hits home....I'll quit now, it's not fun....it's not funny...anymore. </font>Next time we should both try to do better than this.....

peace

d </font>[/QUOTE]whoa, whoa...don't make me out to be the bad man here...please don't make it seem like I did something wrong by debating...I refuse to go along with this thinking....no, if you felt you needed to have done something different in the convo or you feel you behave poorly, that's on you(for the record I don't think so), but please leave me out of the "naughty, we should do better" scolding....I have no regrets on how I carried on the dialogue. </font>[/QUOTE]Let us not be too particular. It is better to have old secondhand diamonds than to have none at all.

graemlins/grinyes.gif

d

[ August 12, 2003, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:

Greetings liL Ray:

Next time try not to slam the door when you leave.

There are good games and there are bad games.

I believe that you could have said what you said above earlier rather than making some of us jump thru loops....but then again I am so sure if you mean it the you are presenting it now.


d
oh, I guess folks can't debate around here or think a little...nobody can have or entertain a difference of opinion....everybody must go along with what certain folks say as gospel...everything must be dumbed down....the lowest common denominator rules?...

...please see and read nubiansita's topic on truth and honesty.....it hits home....I'll quit now, it's not fun....it's not funny...anymore. </font>Next time we should both try to do better than this.....

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d </font>[/QUOTE]whoa, whoa...don't make me out to be the bad man here...please don't make it seem like I did something wrong by debating...I refuse to go along with this thinking....no, if you felt you needed to have done something different in the convo or you feel you behave poorly, that's on you(for the record I don't think so), but please leave me out of the "naughty, we should do better" scolding....I have no regrets on how I carried on the dialogue. </font>[/QUOTE]Let us not be too particular. It is better to have old secondhand diamonds than to have none at all.

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d </font>[/QUOTE]this sounds like the boss coming over and saying after you have posted numbers that rank you in the top 5% of your company "Ray, I want to talk to you about the problems YOU have been having here on the job"....WTF!!!

if the diamonds are tainted, what good are they?

[liL Ray]

I'll take the blame for the derailment of the topic....

...and now back to "Re-entry" records....

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I'll take the blame for the derailment of the topic....

...and now back to "Re-entry" records.... Greetings liL Ray:

"Entry" joke going into heaven:

On their way to get married, a young couple is involved in a fatal car accident. The couple find themselves sitting outside the Pearly Gates waiting for St. Peter to process them into Heaven.

While waiting, they begin to wonder: Could they possibly get married in Heaven?

When St. Peter shows up, they asked him.

St. Peter says, "I don't know. This is the first time anyone has asked. Let me go find out," and he leaves.

The couple sat and waited for an answer....for a couple of months.

While they waited, they discussed that IF they were allowed to get married in Heaven, and SHOULD they get married, what would be the eternal aspect of it all. "What if it doesn't work?" they wondered, "Are we stuck together FOREVER?".

After yet another month, St. Peter finally returns, looking somewhat bedraggled.

"Yes," he informs the couple, "you CAN get married in Heaven."

"Great!" said the couple, "But we were just wondering, what if things don't work out? Could we also get a divorce in Heaven?"

St. Peter, red-faced with anger, slams his clipboard onto the ground.

"OH, COME ON!" he shouts.

"What's wrong?" asks the frightened couple...

"It took me three months to find a priest up here!" he answers. "Do you have ANY idea how long it'll take me to find a lawyer?"

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[TAD]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
always remember, everything is not the same for all...it should never be....also, some like the chaos....some like to be taken out (or in) on a chaotic wave.

What's one person stimulation is another's boredom. this is true. i like chaos...... & unpredictability