View Full Version : Is AIDS some man made shit??
richierich
12-10-2003, 10:12 AM
And if so..made to do what??? There are people on the continent of Africa dying by the thousands. We can put people on the moon but can't find a cure for this shit. Do they want a cure?? There is a hell of a lot of money to be made in the medicine that is prescribed for this but in the end there is NO cure. WTF?? Who is it hitting the hardest?? But yet and still you got dudes that think that because she is SO fine that a condom is not needed. You got cats that will wear a condom but will eat the Kitty Kat like fried chicken..WTF?? Oh yeah babygirl gave him head and THEN made him put on a condom. Getting pregnant is the LEAST of your damn worries. I just got word yesterday that a close friend of mine died on Sunday after battling this disease. This shit aint no joke and it has not left. If ya think ya gotta be Gay to catch this shit you are a damn fool.
when i lived in africa i met a lot of people who believed that AIDS was created in the cold war labs of Russia or the US... and then they (the governments) tried to cover it up by blaming it on the africans (what do they say? that a monkey bit somebody, and that's how it started? right...)
Jamie 3:26
12-10-2003, 10:22 AM
Population control Rich.I had an Uncle who died of aids.He was not a iv drug user,he was a ho.Some Black folks are really ignorant to aids.You still have folks who think it is a gay disease.I saw a sign in the hood with a ad with magic promoting an aids medicine.Firstoff,if it's promoted in the hood,that means they are trying to target someone right?
Anyways,someone wrote fag over Magic's head.That shit was just plain foul and scary at the same time.
Black churches are known for their power and numbers,yet they have not really addressed this epedemic in our community.It's a shame...
richierich
12-10-2003, 10:28 AM
Yeah Jaimie the thing is that AIDS can pretty much wipe out damn near the entire population in Africa in the next 20-30 years and we in AMERIKKA are pretty much in check here in the eyes of the powers that be. AIDS, DRUGS, PRISONS, GANGS, take a big bite out of the population as well. None of these things are forced upon us but they damn sure are EASILY accessible in OUR community. With all of this Caligula style promiscuity going on in OUR community this disease hits right in the crotch so to speak...I've lost waaaaay too many FRIENDS to this..... guys in their prime taken out by doing something that A LOT of us have done at one time or another in our live at least once..HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX.
[ December 10, 2003, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: richierich ]
mdpm99
12-10-2003, 10:35 AM
I believe there was a story in Rolling Stone magazine sometime back where it was traced to a "batch" of Polio Vaccine which became contaminated ... and had it's origin from a derivative gotten from monkey's livers. They carry the virus but somehow do not get sick ... as they have "good germs" they fight off the virus.
In some very remote parts of Africa, new drugs are often given to people in the experiment stage and who have no defense should something go wrong. They live pretty much out of contact with the outside world and are taken advantage of.
Now I don't want to mis-inform anyone as I do not have the article available. But there was a lot of discussion about this at one time.
Perhaps someone could correct me and/or bring forth the article.
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[ December 10, 2003, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]
Chris Conrad
12-10-2003, 12:13 PM
the aids outbreak started after hepatitis vaccine testing took place on gay men...
also, notice how many times peolple get very sick and die quickly after they test positive and start taking all the medication they make you take...
also, look up how reliable aids testing actually is...
richierich
12-10-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
the aids outbreak started after hepatitis vaccine testing took place on gay men...
also, notice how many times peolple get very sick and die quickly after they test positive and start taking all the medication they make you take...
also, look up how reliable aids testing actually is... So how do you explain Magic Johnson?? Every time I see him he looks better that the last time. I don't personally know how he is physically feeling but he sure looks like he's doing fine after announcing that he had HIV back in what 90 something. What is he taking??
mdpm99
12-10-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by richierich:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
the aids outbreak started after hepatitis vaccine testing took place on gay men...
also, notice how many times peolple get very sick and die quickly after they test positive and start taking all the medication they make you take...
also, look up how reliable aids testing actually is... So how do you explain Magic Johnson?? Every time I see him he looks better that the last time. I don't personally know how he is physically feeling but he sure looks like he's doing fine after announcing that he had HIV back in what 90 something. What is he taking?? </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings:
Not to second guess MJ situation but I think it would be fair to say that with his "green energy" resources he will be able to afford the best possible care. Also he is of good physical condition which helps. If one has been sickly in life (in general) than this is not helpful. Ex. If you have had hepatitis b your body's immune system may have already been compromised.
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m williams
12-10-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by david mancuso:
I believe there was a story in Rolling Stone magazine sometime back where it was traced to a "batch" of Polio Vaccine which became contaminated ... and had it's origin from a derivative gotten from monkey's livers. They carry the virus but somehow do not get sick ... as they have "good germs" they fight off the virus.
In some very remote parts of Africa, new drugs are often given to people in the experiment stage and who have no defense should something go wrong. They live pretty much out of contact with the outside world and are taken advantage of.
Now I don't want to mis-inform anyone as I do not have the article available. But there was a lot of discussion about this at one time.
Perhaps someone could correct me and/or bring forth the article.
d I don't really know much more than you do, but what I just learnt in school was that the OPV (oral polio vaccine containing live but weak strains of polio) was synthesized using Meckack monkeys, whereas HIV is believed to have come from SIV (replace Human with Simian) which Meckaks didn't have, but Chimpanzees did. And they also say that judging by the different strains, it seems SIV was introduced to humans several different times, not just during one time period. They say this could be because of pests acting as vectors (carriers) or because of the chimp butcher trade (butchering & selling of meat in markets) which allows for a lot of blood exposure. And we didn't go into it in class, but it also seems that other animals such as cats, cows, and horses has similar -IV diseases. It would be interesting to find out more about how these animals got these diseases in the first place. Again, even with all these explanations(if they're fully true), it seems there are a lot of pieces missing.
Chris Conrad
12-10-2003, 01:45 PM
read Aids: A Second Opinion, by Gary Null, PHD
other books and websites around about this also...
djdub63
12-10-2003, 02:36 PM
World Health Organization is responsible 4 this epidemic.
the drugs works...if you take them regularly. many people do not. in fact, if you take the drugs irregularly it is worse than not taking them at all. (my girlfriend is a pharmacist in san francisco...where there is a ton of reasearh and funding)
information/awareness has been shown to be the most effective method in fighting aids...there isn't much funding for that in most of africa...as well as talking about sex is still taboo.
DJ Duke
12-10-2003, 03:32 PM
Hey I thought these sites were interesting:
www.virusmyth.com (http://www.virusmyth.com)
www.questionaids.com (http://www.questionaids.com)
Maybe AIDS is nothing like what we have been told.. discuss
C hristian
12-10-2003, 03:34 PM
http://www.magicjohnson.org/
darrow
12-10-2003, 03:50 PM
it's interesting...
our belief that we ultimately can cure anything must be part of the driving force behind science research and testing because to NOT believe we can cure anything would definitely be a dis-incentive wouldn't it?
On the other hand, imagine a world where everything is cured. This world would be one hell of an overpopulated place wouldn't it?
I have no idea whether AIDS is man made or not. It's one possibility just as there are others. In a global economy that needs and wants purchasers of goods and services, I'm always puzzled by any move to eliminate potential purchasers of those goods and services but...you never know what lurks in evil minds.
Originally posted by darrow:
it's interesting...
our belief that we ultimately can cure anything must be part of the driving force behind science research and testing because to NOT believe we can cure anything would definitely be a dis-incentive wouldn't it?
On the other hand, imagine a world where everything is cured. This world would be one hell of an overpopulated place wouldn't it?
I have no idea whether AIDS is man made or not. It's one possibility just as there are others. In a global economy that needs and wants purchasers of goods and services, I'm always puzzled by any move to eliminate potential purchasers of those goods and services but...you never know what lurks in evil minds. I think we have the power & resources to cure anything.. we just don't know how to use it..
BTW,, human kind is responsible for so much.. We like to mess with Mother Nature.. And we know who will win that fight...
Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
the aids outbreak started after hepatitis vaccine testing took place on gay men...
also, notice how many times peolple get very sick and die quickly after they test positive and start taking all the medication they make you take...
also, look up how reliable aids testing actually is... hepatitis b vaccine to be more precise & simultaneously in africa, haiti & brazil with the small pox vaccine.
i spoke to a microbiologist & he says the aids virus is definitely man made.
it's a splicing of two virus. the visna virus & another type of cattle virus. see the strecker memorandum or dr gallo.
this virus DID NOT jump species. this is post mk naomi protocol & the congressional record has evidence of a request for 10,000,000 dollars in 1969 to develop an agent that would be refractory to the immune system & that it would take 5-10 years to develop. aids was on the street in 1979.
LEONARD REMIX RROY
12-10-2003, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Cosmic T:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Chris Conrad:
the aids outbreak started after hepatitis vaccine testing took place on gay men...
also, notice how many times peolple get very sick and die quickly after they test positive and start taking all the medication they make you take...
also, look up how reliable aids testing actually is... hepatitis b vaccine to be more precise & simultaneously in africa, haiti & brazil with the small pox vaccine.
i spoke to a microbiologist & he says the aids virus is definitely man made.
it's a splicing of two virus. the visna virus & another type of cattle virus. see the strecker memorandum or dr gallo.
this virus DID NOT jump species. this is post mk naomi protocol & the congressional record has evidence of a request for 10,000,000 dollars in 1969 to develop an agent that would be refractory to the immune system & that it would take 5-10 years to develop. aids was on the street in 1979. </font>[/QUOTE]At the Eighteen-Nation Disarmament Committee in 1969, the UK, supported by the US, called for the elimination of only biological weapons. The U.S., as a result of increasing protests for its use of herbicides during the Vietnam War, banned the development, production, and stockpiling of BW and announced its intent to ratify the Convention. The Convention was opened for signature in 1972 after the U.S. and the Soviet Union reached agreement on the text of the Convention.
Biological Weapons (BW) project, disperse, or disseminate biological agents or toxins and have distinct characteristics that enhance their effectiveness as weapons: 1) the projection, dispersal, or dissemination of small amounts of biological agents is sufficient to cause disease or illness among the targeted population; and 2) the small incubation periods (hours to days) makes it difficult to determine the time, location, and direction of attack before signs are manifested among the targeted population.
Note: Biological Agents, defined in the treaty as microbial or other biological agents, are naturally occurring microorganisms (virus, bacteria, fungus) or toxins that can cause death or disease in a targeted population.
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