What was considered the 1st disco record [Archive]

INNER CORNER BAND

12-17-2003, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Henry 'da Man:
What's up everybody? I am new to posting. I read on the history of this music as much as I can, but one topic that I haven't read upon is the official 1st disco record. I know that it was influenced by James Brown, and know of some of the early disco mainstream records (Eddie Kendricks, Philly sound etc) Can someone help me out? ICB graemlins/1luvu.gif graemlins/1luvu.gif graemlins/1luvu.gif MR HENRY HENRY HENRY
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INNER CORNER BAND

12-17-2003, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Dj Marv:
Welcome to the Board Henry!!! Boy are you in for a ride!! graemlins/beerchug.gif

Hey Ya'll Henry da Man is one of the most humble, talented Soulful house dj in the Bmore/DC area!! He has residencies at Sanctuary, Paradox to name a few places! This guy is a record junkie 4 real!! Show him love!! A great guy!

Enjoy your stay,

Marv
graemlins/OLA.gif WHAT UP DJ CAN,T WHAT TO PLAY AT THE NEXT BLACK IN THE SPRING SO WE CAN AR15firing.gif THAT SHIT

uzibee

12-18-2003, 04:54 AM

I asked my Dad the same question not too long ago. He is a serious record collector and he started clubbing in the 60's.

He came up with Sex Machine (James Brown), Some funkadelic tracks I can't remember, Papa was a rolling stone by the Temptations ect...

He also mentioned tracks like Rock the Boat by the Hues Corporation, TSOP (MFSB),Dancing Machine by Jackson 5,Boogie Down by Eddie Kendricks,When Will I See You Again by Three Degrees,Rock Your Baby by George McCrae and of course Love Theme by Love Unlimited Orchestra and Your Song by Elton John.

Jolyon

12-18-2003, 04:58 AM

Girl You Need A Change Of Mind I reckon...

Al Kent

12-18-2003, 05:05 AM

Your Song by Elton John????

Jolyon

12-18-2003, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by Al Kent:
Your Song by Elton John???? Dance Hall Days?

Clarkeecat

12-18-2003, 05:17 AM

Originally posted by Jolyon:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Al Kent:
Your Song by Elton John???? Dance Hall Days? [/QUOTE]now then Jo, don't start...

Jolyon

12-18-2003, 05:21 AM

It's really an impossible question to answer...what is "disco" anyway?

Al Kent

12-18-2003, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by Jolyon:
It's really an impossible question to answer...what is "disco" anyway? Exactly.

sammyrock

12-18-2003, 07:04 AM

Welcome to the family...look into the 50s,and 60s,there is the answer... smile.gif

House

12-18-2003, 07:10 AM

The first disco song

It was way back...

a cat was shaking his ass a little to hard and he slipped a disc and yelled "ohhh!!!" , whilst in pain

And thats how disc-oh ( later shortened to disco) was born

don't remember the song though

TRUE

Maria

12-18-2003, 07:49 AM

Very tough question, I'm sure you'll get a whole slew of different answers all dependent on ones interpretation of disco...just wanted to say welcome to the board!!

Wild i

12-18-2003, 08:46 AM

I know my first was probably Car Wash by Rose Royce.

Sensei Melei

12-18-2003, 08:57 AM

Disco Lady - Johnnie Taylor

Wild i

12-18-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Sensei Melei-1010:
Disco Lady - Johnnie Taylor Nah, that was waaaayyyy later.

House

12-18-2003, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
The first disco song

It was way back...

a cat was shaking his ass a little to hard and he slipped a disc and yelled "ohhh!!!" , whilst in pain

And thats how disc-oh ( later shortened to disco) was born

don't remember the song though

TRUE the disc - oh craze spread when a short time later a group of elderly residents at the Al Z Heimer convalescent home all sustained injuries to their lower vertebrae during a group hula session

The name of the song playing at the time escapes me

TRUE

mdpm99

12-18-2003, 09:58 AM

Greetings Folks:

First of all welcome Henry da' Man :D

Re: the question.....I just did an IV at VH1, reluctantly I might add. The show is about "Disco" and when it "ruled the earth."

Anyway as usual I found myself saying (when asked, "Well what do you consider a disco record")..."well if it has the word Disco in it, or the 12" Jacket and/or LP said Disco then that would be a starter. Also some records had that "disco formular" to it which also I believed help Disco to burn out.

Also I said that when the first record pool started 74' (NY Record Pool Inc. - 99 Prince St.) we had to as DJ's identify what kind of DJ we were to the record co.'s ...as there were basically only the radio DJ model -- so the word Discotek - Regimes - was the ref. But I quickly stated that Regimes was the only place we knew of on the planet that was called that and other than underground PARTIES in existence at that time (loft/read st/buttermilk bottom/tenth floor/soho/gallery etc., etc.) places like the sanctuary - tamberlane - etc., etc., they were bars that had dancing but were not referred to as Disco's but places to go dancing.

Also Dance Music wasn't all Disco just because it played to a dance floor during that era. There was a lot "other music" that ruled the dance floor," so to speak.

So the IV was bit of a struggle (camera shy + it look like a Dentist's office and no eye to eye contact -- spoke to each thru monitors/screen even though we were only 5 feet from each other.. separated by a curtain. Plus 7 people in a semi circle focus on you. (a scary set and setting.....is this what it is like in Iraq if u get captured)? Sorry.....starting to drift.......

So I see that some of titles already mentioned in this thread ....I for one would not call them Disco records per se. I used Girl u need a change of mind an example ( in IV) of what I thought wasn't a disco record.....first all it came out in '72 I believe and did not have that "formular attached to it."

Salsoul came out with the first 12" which was designed for the disco market as it said Salsoul Disco 12" -- ah! What a great way to make even more money. One advantage tho'---was the quality of the recordings became enhanced due to the wide and natural grooves.

d

Linedog

12-18-2003, 02:02 PM

What about Doctor's Orders by Carol Douglas?

jsd540

12-18-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Greetings Folks:

First of all welcome Henry da' Man :D

Re: the question.....I just did an IV at VH1, reluctantly I might add. The show is about "Disco" and when it "ruled the earth."

d Hi David

When is it airing ?

1SmoothDj

12-18-2003, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by INNER CORNER BAND:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dj Marv:
Welcome to the Board Henry!!! Boy are you in for a ride!! graemlins/beerchug.gif

Hey Ya'll Henry da Man is one of the most humble, talented Soulful house dj in the Bmore/DC area!! He has residencies at Sanctuary, Paradox to name a few places! This guy is a record junkie 4 real!! Show him love!! A great guy!

Enjoy your stay,

Marv
graemlins/OLA.gif WHAT UP DJ CAN,T WHAT TO PLAY AT THE NEXT BLACK IN THE SPRING SO WE CAN AR15firing.gif THAT SHIT [/QUOTE]Who Dis? Derrick? Cleo? yeah...I feel you on that bro...but, I don't think I can wait that long... graemlins/grinyes.gif I gotta gon do that thang then!!

Henry 'da Man

12-18-2003, 11:16 PM

What's up everybody. First of all I like to thank everyone for their input. I knew this would be a hard question to answer. Few people know what was the "real" first rap record, but not the "1st disco" record. I guess the same could be said about rhythm and blues (not trying to start another topic. Mr. Marcuso said it best).

The question was thought of when I bought David Marcuso's first 2 "Loft compilations" a few years ago. I enjoyed reading the linear notes almost better than the music. Thank you Mr. Marcuso for not only responding, but to and give us who was too young to know such great music of the era. I remember alot of the titles mentioned, and even remember them on the radio. I was too young to know (and go)to the clubs of the day, and I am getting my education to know where we're been (in terms of this scene), to where we're going.

Mr. Marcuso, I have been wanting to meet you when you were working at dub spot with Jamal (we ran summer track together years ago not knowing that we are house headz)a few years ago. I recommend the the loft compilations to anyone who wants an education of this music.

DJ Marv, Another great dj from DC via Chicago. When are u going to make another classic cd?

jcapeverde

12-18-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Linedog:
What about Doctor's Orders by Carol Douglas? For The Love of Money,O'jays
Love To Love You Baby(entire album)Donna Summer
Fly Robin Fly, Silver Convention
Cymande
Girl,You Need A Change Of Mind, Eddie Kendricks
These were some of many early songs that could be classified as Disco.

Rodney Ransom

12-18-2003, 11:29 PM

welcome to the board henry, that's a tuff question
but I would say I agree with James Brown ,or any of the original old MOTOWN ACTS.

Rodney Ransom

12-18-2003, 11:39 PM

HEY HENRY you might wanna talk to one of these people. (in no particular order)
DJ HIPPIE TORRALES
DJ CAMACHO
HECTOR HOUSE NATION
CARLOS SANCHEZ
OR ANY ONE OF THE DJ'S FROM THE RARE
RADIO SHOW (CAN'T FORGET JAMISON BRAE)
I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY SPOKE W/D MANCUSO

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 03:43 AM

Originally posted by jsd540:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
Greetings Folks:

First of all welcome Henry da' Man :D

Re: the question.....I just did an IV at VH1, reluctantly I might add. The show is about "Disco" and when it "ruled the earth."

d Hi David

When is it airing ? [/QUOTE]Seasons Greetings jsd540:

Was told 2.28

d

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 03:52 AM

Main Entry: [1]dis·co
Pronunciation: 'dis-(")kO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural discos
Etymology: short for discotheque
Date: 1964
1 : a nightclub for dancing to live and recorded music
2 : popular dance music characterized by hypnotic rhythm, repetitive lyrics, and electronically produced sounds
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function: intransitive verb
Date: 1979
: to dance to disco music

music

12-19-2003, 03:54 AM

greetings david:

Question- Would you have considered these records disco?

"You and I" Rick James
"fence-walk" by Mandrill
"look me up" by Blue Magic
" Every beat of my heart" Crownheights of Affair
" I am love" and "Forever came today" Jackson five
" All about the paper" The Dells
" Bingo" The Whispers
" Where do we go from here" The Tramps.
" Date w/ the rain"
"k-Gee" or "sexy" or "T.L.C." -MFSB

[ December 19, 2003, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: music ]

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by music:
greetings david:

question- would you have considered "frencewalk" by mandrill disco? or "look me up" by blue magic? Seasons Greetings music:

The group mandrill I would not consider a Disco Group per se. Yes for blue magic. Both were excellent groups.

My friend did two of Mandrill's lp covers - the paintings.

smile.gif

d

When asked what kind of music do you play......me reply is "dance music."

music

12-19-2003, 04:17 AM

what about ?

where do we go from here- the tramps
every beat of my heart- the crownheights affair

thanks david

[ December 19, 2003, 04:18 AM: Message edited by: music ]

Jolyon

12-19-2003, 04:19 AM

Had a similar thing recently to you David - asked by the BBC to write 'the most important 20 disco records of all time' - well what a struggle that was!

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by music:
what about ?

where do we go from here- the tramps
every beat of my heart- the crownheights affair

thanks david Greetings music:

I have always found your taste in music delightful. graemlins/respekt.gif

Tramps - where do we go from here ... always liked the feel of that "dance record." Never liked the way they would "dress them up" on some of their LP covers.

Crown Heights Affair.....some of their stuff was definitely orientated to the "disco market" but did not consider them a disco group.

How am I doing? If u got anymore - go for it or as the Tramps say, Where do we go from "hear?!"

smile.gif

d

Ps. Disco Circus....yes.

[ December 19, 2003, 05:44 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Had a similar thing recently to you David - asked by the BBC to write 'the most important 20 disco records of all time' - well what a struggle that was! Seasons Greeting Jolyon:

More or less my answer was ...."well if it had the word Disco in it and/or "disco formular" --- lite on the message/lyrics....dancey."

For some reason I felt at times that just because the song appeared 76-81 and was danced to made it a disco record......very strange. Remember the "down with disco riots" -=- sort of homophobic with regards to Disco Music.

d

Jolyon

12-19-2003, 04:52 AM

David - yes that riot was organised by Steve Dahl in Chicago. You will remember lovely Simon Hollis from the BBC who interviewed you earlier this year. He interviewed Steve Dahl and Dahl tricked him by recording the interview, then playing it out on his talk-show, and laughing at Simon's questions and accent. Very childish and dishonest. The guy Dahl is still as bad as he ever was...

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by Jolyon:
David - yes that riot was organised by Steve Dahl in Chicago. You will remember lovely Simon Hollis from the BBC who interviewed you earlier this year. He interviewed Steve Dahl and Dahl tricked him by recording the interview, then playing it out on his talk-show, and laughing at Simon's questions and accent. Very childish and dishonest. The guy Dahl is still as bad as he ever was... what a rotten thing to do!

:(

d

Jolyon

12-19-2003, 05:02 AM

Steve Dahl has a lot of bad karma to work off...

Wild i

12-19-2003, 06:48 AM

You know what's great about this thread (besides the obvious)? You got a new jack with open ears, mind and heart wanting to learn and you got the Godfather teaching us all.

I LOVE THE DHP!

DLow

12-19-2003, 07:28 AM

Welcome aboard Henry da Man. graemlins/beerchug.gif Good thread.

djezmike

12-19-2003, 08:58 AM

How about "Papa Was A Rolling Stone" The Temptations.

matthew

12-19-2003, 09:06 AM

jerry santiago

12-19-2003, 09:09 AM

HEY WHATS UP HENRY,THANKS FOR THE THE CHARTS ON MY RECORDS.WELL I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS THE FIRST DISCO RECORD,BUT EVER DJ MAKES THE MISTAKE OF SOME OLD FUNK RECORDS BEING DISCO CLASSICS.GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE.SALSOUL HAD AN REAL DISCO SOUND.

D J 1 3 8

12-19-2003, 09:24 AM

It seems, for the sake of this discussion, we need some qualifiers for what makes a disco record.

For me, it needs to be uptempo, therefore "Poppa was a Rolling Stone" doesn't seem to cut it.

In addition, there's that certain 4 on the floor high-hat-heavy beat which is associated with disco, which you don't hear in a song like "Date With The Rain" - which just sounds like an uptempo soul song to me.

I realize this is all nitpicky, but just mentioning songs from the early 70s that people danced to doesn't seem to narrow the field much.

"fencewalk" is disco? That shit sounds more like The Meters.

mdpm99

12-19-2003, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by DJ 138:
It seems, for the sake of this discussion, we need some qualifiers for what makes a disco record.

For me, it needs to be uptempo, therefore "Poppa was a Rolling Stone" doesn't seem to cut it.

In addition, there's that certain 4 on the floor high-hat-heavy beat which is associated with disco, which you don't hear in a song like "Date With The Rain" - which just sounds like an uptempo soul song to me.

I realize this is all nitpicky, but just mentioning songs from the early 70s that people danced to doesn't seem to narrow the field much.

"fencewalk" is disco? That shit sounds more like The Meters. Seasons Greetings DJ 138 smile.gif

For me the ingridents are mostly:

Dancey with a bit of trancey to it
No real story re lyrics
Title has the word Disco in it.
"Disco Formular" (the georgraphy of the record) in full mode.

along those lines.....

d

MusicFilter

12-19-2003, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by Linedog:
What about Doctor's Orders by Carol Douglas? What about "Midnight Love affair" by Carol Douglas?

nice cut

ToeKnee

12-19-2003, 10:33 AM

I guess I am one of the oldschool lurkers on the board. This doesn't make me any more knowledgeable on the subject. I just happened to be around when some of the earlier music was played.

For some reason, "Mighty Real" by Sylvester, always sticks in my head as the first disco song that I'd heard. It was the first song that didn't sound like a very uptempo R&B or Pop cut to me. It had it's own sound. It was sort of a fusion of other genres of music with this new sound added.
Can't recall if Donna Summer came before or after, but since "Love To Love You" was so down tempo, I didn't consider it to be disco. Where I'm from, her more uptempo stuff was definitely there at the beginning of disco. Then somewhere along the line, the song "Cathedrals" came in & "Ten Percent"(Which I guess could be considered a very uptempo R&B cut with a disco mix). There were other songs in the mix, but I guess it would depend on who heard what/when, and when it was documented.

This is a good question but like the other "First" Questions (like first DJ and first disco club, origination, etc) it can be hard to pinpoint. Sometimes the "first" is the one documented but might not be the first one done/created/heard.

Just my 2 cents.

Peace,
Toe Knee

[ December 19, 2003, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: ToeKnee ]

Henry 'da Man

12-19-2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Wild i:
You know what's great about this thread (besides the obvious)? You got a new jack with open ears, mind and heart wanting to learn and you got the Godfather teaching us all.

I LOVE THE DHP! I agree.

Henry 'da Man

12-19-2003, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Derrick:
Welcome aboard Henry da Man. graemlins/beerchug.gif Good thread. Thank you Derrick. Thank all of you for welcoming me on this superbowl website. I can't wait to listen to ya mixes.

sammyrock

12-19-2003, 12:23 PM

It started when the cave men and women beat thier rocks with sticks.And also the clash of the "Big Bang"..now thats house. :D

[ December 19, 2003, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: sammyrock ]

Henry 'da Man

12-19-2003, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by jerry santiago:
HEY WHATS UP HENRY,THANKS FOR THE THE CHARTS ON MY RECORDS.WELL I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS THE FIRST DISCO RECORD,BUT EVER DJ MAKES THE MISTAKE OF SOME OLD FUNK RECORDS BEING DISCO CLASSICS.GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE.SALSOUL HAD AN REAL DISCO SOUND. What's up Jerry. Keep putting out that good music. I have to go with you on that point about Salsoul. They have just re-released those singles. Remastered and everything. I'm coping them little by little.

Wild i

12-19-2003, 01:33 PM

Hey ToeKnee, you and I are on the same wavelength. I was tapping out Ten Percent in my head just before I read your post.

I have to disagree about Love to Love You. I think that song's about as disco as disco gets, even though it's more down tempo. Even disco kids had to slow down some time. :D

And

12-19-2003, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Henry 'da Man:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jerry santiago:
HEY WHATS UP HENRY,THANKS FOR THE THE CHARTS ON MY RECORDS.WELL I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS THE FIRST DISCO RECORD,BUT EVER DJ MAKES THE MISTAKE OF SOME OLD FUNK RECORDS BEING DISCO CLASSICS.GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE.SALSOUL HAD AN REAL DISCO SOUND. What's up Jerry. Keep putting out that good music. I have to go with you on that point about Salsoul. They have just re-released those singles. Remastered and everything. I'm coping them little by little. [/QUOTE]Henry ... Hey there. I'm not telling who this is but welcome. ;)

D J 1 3 8

12-19-2003, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Wild i:
Hey ToeKnee, you and I are on the same wavelength. I was tapping out Ten Percent in my head just before I read your post.

I have to disagree about Love to Love You. I think that song's about as disco as disco gets, even though it's more down tempo. Even disco kids had to slow down some time. :D I can agree, despite it's slow tempo, that it was disco, but it didn't come out until 75.

"The Love I Lost" was 73 at least.

D J 1 3 8

12-19-2003, 01:43 PM

Come to think of it, the theme to SHAFT came out in 1971. That seems to pre-date a lot of songs mentioned in this thread.

music

12-19-2003, 07:14 PM

hey david: what about?

"Forever came today"-jackson 5
"Machine Gun: The Commondores
" Bingo" the Whispers
"Got to have your love" Fanstastic Four
" Feel the need in me" Detriot Emeralds"
"You and I" Rick James

[ December 19, 2003, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: music ]

mdpm99

12-20-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by music:
hey david: what about?

"Forever came today"-jackson 5
"Machine Gun: The Commondores
" Bingo" the Whispers
"Got to have your love" Fanstastic Four
" Feel the need in me" Detriot Emeralds"
"You and I" Rick James -------

Rick James - more or less - disco

The other groups I do not think of them as Disco Groups doing "disco" music.

bingo....I would have to listen to again...never really got into that record....so I can't recall it at the moment.

d

music

12-20-2003, 04:55 PM

thanks david. hey, three days and counting to see alvin ailey dance compnay.

mdpm99

12-20-2003, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by music:
thanks david. hey, three days and counting to see alvin ailey dance compnay. Greetings music:

Enjoy the show and have a joyous and healthy New Year.

smile.gif

d

Nick_G

12-20-2003, 05:46 PM

A couple that come to mind:

Dance To The Music - Sly & The Family Stone

Move On Up - Curtis Mayfield

DEEPHOUSEHEAD

12-20-2003, 10:40 PM

How can no one mention Barry White ??????????

He had the feel,and elements down,before the word Disco was used to define a genre.
And talk about Extended versions !!!!!
Isaac Hayes as well,and Extended.
Please educate me,if there was anyone doing extended versions (IE: 11:00 or so),before Mr Hayes.

Regarding question of
"what was the "real" first rap record
King Time the 3 by the Fatback band.

Again please educate me if I'm wrong.

DEEPHOUSEHEAD

12-20-2003, 10:41 PM

How can no one mention Barry White ??????????

He had the feel,and elements down,before the word Disco was used to define a genre.
And talk about Extended versions !!!!!
Isaac Hayes as well,and Extended.
Please educate me,if there was anyone doing extended versions (IE: 11:00 or so),before Mr Hayes.

Regarding question of
"what was the "real" first rap record"
King Tim the 3 by the Fatback band.

Again please educate me if I'm wrong.

Henry 'da Man

12-20-2003, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by 6 23:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Henry 'da Man:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by jerry santiago:
HEY WHATS UP HENRY,THANKS FOR THE THE CHARTS ON MY RECORDS.WELL I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS THE FIRST DISCO RECORD,BUT EVER DJ MAKES THE MISTAKE OF SOME OLD FUNK RECORDS BEING DISCO CLASSICS.GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE.SALSOUL HAD AN REAL DISCO SOUND. What's up Jerry. Keep putting out that good music. I have to go with you on that point about Salsoul. They have just re-released those singles. Remastered and everything. I'm coping them little by little. [/QUOTE]Henry ... Hey there. I'm not telling who this is but welcome. ;) [/QUOTE]Whoeever this is.....u ain't right. What are you afraid of? :))

Henry 'da Man

12-20-2003, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by DJ 138:
Come to think of it, the theme to SHAFT came out in 1971. That seems to pre-date a lot of songs mentioned in this thread. I believe "Love Train" by the O'Jay's was considered a disco record. I believe it came out in '70

Henry 'da Man

12-20-2003, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by DEEPHOUSEHEAD:
How can no one mention Barry White ??????????

He had the feel,and elements down,before the word Disco was used to define a genre.
And talk about Extended versions !!!!!
Isaac Hayes as well,and Extended.
Please educate me,if there was anyone doing extended versions (IE: 11:00 or so),before Mr Hayes.

Regarding question of
"what was the "real" first rap record
King Time the 3 by the Fatback band.

Again please educate me if I'm wrong. Hey deephousehead. I believe you are right about the King Tut 3. Among the soul artists of the day. James Brown said that a record he did back in '68 entitled "America is my home" he says was the first rap record. There were other artists in the late sixties into the early seventies were claming they did the first rap record. I remember the artists that claimed that when I read it. I would have to look it up again.

mdpm99

12-21-2003, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by Henry 'da Man:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DEEPHOUSEHEAD:
How can no one mention Barry White ??????????

He had the feel,and elements down,before the word Disco was used to define a genre.
And talk about Extended versions !!!!!
Isaac Hayes as well,and Extended.
Please educate me,if there was anyone doing extended versions (IE: 11:00 or so),before Mr Hayes.

Regarding question of
"what was the "real" first rap record
King Time the 3 by the Fatback band.

Again please educate me if I'm wrong. Hey deephousehead. I believe you are right about the King Tut 3. Among the soul artists of the day. James Brown said that a record he did back in '68 entitled "America is my home" he says was the first rap record. There were other artists in the late sixties into the early seventies were claming they did the first rap record. I remember the artists that claimed that when I read it. I would have to look it up again. [/QUOTE]Ella Fitzgerald