HOUSE loses another GREAT mind to AIDS

[choco]

How many more pioneers of this movement we call House must we lose to AIDS. I'm so sorry to hear about Mel Cheren because he was a GREAT mind and he definitely was a person that spread the innovative sound of HOUSE.
(RIP Mel Cheren) We know you and Larry Levan are up there turning Heaven out to the sound of HOUSE. Dirk.

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Everyone agrees :)

[liL Ray]

I guess your post in the "Rest In Peace Mel Cheren" topic wouldn't do the trick, you had to have a post of your own...along with your picture of yourself to boot!

whatthefuck!

['Magic' Juan]

I guess your post in the R.I.P Mel Cheren topic wouldn't do the trick, you had to have a post of your own...along with your picture!

whatthefuck!

lol

[liL Ray]

I am surprised he didn't post a mix of himself, since this post seems to be about him.

you can't make this shit up..

[VEESTER]

I guess your post in the "Rest In Peace Mel Cheren" topic wouldn't do the trick, you had to have a post of your own...along with your picture of yourself to boot!

whatthefuck!

Ray I was thinkin' the same thing.

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

We need to worry about this subject on a scale larger than Mel Cheren.Is it only important because he died from it?
People are dying from aids complications thirty years into the disease,and it shouldnt take one person who is deemed important to call attention to it?

[liL Ray]

also, for the record, Larry did not die of Aids....not that it is anything to be ashamed of, but just setting the record straight.

[Wild i]

also, for the record, Larry did not die of Aids....not that it is anything to be ashamed of, but just setting the record straight.

But I remember quite clearly how annoyed my brother was when people assumed he had AIDS when he started wasting away. He actually had colon cancer -- another major killer.

Although many people -- even to this day -- view an HIV positive diagnosis as a death sentence, my brother died 5 years after being diagnosed with cancer, even after a complete colostomy (forgive me for airing that, Tee). My ex-husband, on the other hand, live with AIDS for 22 years.

Is perception reality?

[Sean G]

Another one for the record Choco, Tony Humphries is NOT gay.

http://deephousepage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148191

[Viva Freddy Fender]

I am surprised he didn't post a mix of himself, since this post seems to be about him.

you can't make this shit up..

LOL

[liL Ray]

But I remember quite clearly how annoyed my brother was when people assumed he had AIDS when he started wasting away. He actually had colon cancer -- another major killer.

Although many people -- even to this day -- view an HIV positive diagnosis as a death sentence, my brother died 5 years after being diagnosed with cancer, even after a complete colostomy (forgive me for airing that, Tee). My ex-husband, on the other hand, live with AIDS for 22 years.

Is perception reality?What's up sugah...thanks for chiming in with a great viewpoint.

[Jamie 3:26]

"What about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?"

['Magic' Juan]

Another one for the record Choco, Tony Humphries is NOT gay.

http://deephousepage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148191

Dude's on a roll.

[liL Ray]

"What about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?""what about how I feeeeeeeeeeeeel."

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Everyone agrees :)


I was at least trying to be a bit diplomatic.

Lil 'straight to the point' Ray, you crack me up :rofl:

[BHouse]

:rofl5:

[liL Ray]

:rofl5:Man of Genius candidate?

[panklady]

"what about how I feeeeeeeeeeeeel."

Jamie & Lil Ray-->to the corners now!

[Chip_E]

Another one for the record Choco, Tony Humphries is NOT gay.

http://deephousepage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148191

Just saw that thread...
why does everybody think that everybody into House Music are gay,
and that everybody gay is into House Music?

Neither is true...and regarding that thread and the supposed "study",
dude never did come up with a source for his "study" and the Google search he advised doesn't turn up JACK. I'm smellin' some BULL SHIT.

-e.

[liL Ray]

Fresh meat is the best meat...

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Just saw that thread...
why does everybody think that everybody into House Music are gay,
and that everybody gay is into House Music?




Strangely, only ever seen people speak this way in the US. :conf06: It is weird

[liL Ray]

Suspended, now you see why I said you you were the best new member in a longtime?

[Suspended]

Indeed I do :D Thanks Ray, but I'm no sure that's much of a compliment given the competition ;)

Messageboard etiquette isn't that hard to grasp...maybe I'm underestimating stupidity and how willing it is to display itself (lights and all)

[u.d.p.]

Another one for the record Choco, Tony Humphries is NOT gay.


And neither was John Robinson

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

Perhaps its associated as gay because people associate it with disco.A style of music with heavy gay roots.

[choco]

SHAAAAAAAAAADE!!! Don't Hate the messenger. I was experimenting with the edits and manage attachments. I must admit though I am into myself a bit. Will work on that one. If I offended ya...make a meeting.

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

On another note,instead of trying to distance yourselves from the gay community as some people do.There is a whole community of black/latino queers that dont even know a house community still exists.I cant tell you how many people tell me they go to the hip hop clubs for having no other place to go.Many of them havent gone out since the eighties because they ont know of the underground community.

So play fag for the night and hand out those flyers,there is serious money to be made!

[KBig]

Man of Genius candidate?


Mishu .. u and Jamie just made my day a whole lot funnier


not What about meeeee? Geeezus you really cant dream up this shyt can ya

Man of Genius DEFINITELY

:biglaugha:

[choco]

You can go to google.com and type in House music and Homosexuality or Disco music and Homosexuality and it will give you various studies done throughout time related to the topic. Sorry don't hate the messenger. Dirk.

[KBig]

Suspended, now you see why I said you you were the best new member in a longtime?
sounds like a DHP Award in the making...

best new member

hmmmmmmm I smell a thread

[liL Ray]

You can go to google.com and type in House music and Homosexuality or Disco music and Homosexuality and it will give you various studies done throughout time related to the topic. Sorry don't hate the messenger. Dirk.
please stop...

please.

[BHouse]

Man of Genius candidate?

:lol::thumbsup:

[Mizzmeme]

Strangely, only ever seen people speak this way in the US. :conf06: It is weird

You know why because everybody is not as "Open-Minded" as they protray to be, makes you go HHHHMMMMMM...

[Mizzmeme]

On another note,instead of trying to distance yourselves from the gay community as some people do.There is a whole community of black/latino queers that dont even know a house community still exists.I cant tell you how many people tell me they go to the hip hop clubs for having no other place to go.Many of them havent gone out since the eighties because they ont know of the underground community.

So play fag for the night and hand out those flyers,there is serious money to be made!


You tell em girl! See money is money, business, is business, regardless of what someone preference is.

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

Mizzmeeme they dont get it.There is a whole in the wall club in bklyn(that shall remain nameless) that used to be open friday and saturday nights.The saturday night party is standing room only and its gay.What happened to all those people that went out when it was open on friday?The answer is they stay home because they dont know about other places.

The gay mind is different from a straight mans mind.All you do is use a little male sex appeal,or have a over the top woman giving out flyers and your party will be a sucess.There is a dj from jersey who has played at the spot several times,now he aint gay.The queens come out just to hear him spin because he makes them drool.I dont know why female djs dont go hard with the gay community they would do so well.The fags love the divas!!!

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

What about me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Since my DJ career started at a Gay Club and my last residence was a Gay Club maybe he, Fill in the blank!

2. I am skinny as ever, which could mean Aids or Crack diet.

There is a old Army saying, Do Not Open Mouth Until Brain Is In Gear.

That's about it,

Tuttles....ooh, such gayity in that word:)

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

You do look rather darling in your fatigues i must say.

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

You do look rather darling in your fatigues i must say.

Flattery will get you everywhere.......Oop, did I say that?:)

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Flattery will get you everywhere.......Oop, did I say that?:)

Your video musta been b4 Silky's time :rofl5:

[LEONARD REMIX RROY]

Your video musta been b4 Silky's time :rofl5:

Ohh, the Candice video.

Man what the hell was I thinking back then? WOW!!!!!

[choco]

Just saw that thread...
why does everybody think that everybody into House Music are gay,
and that everybody gay is into House Music?

Neither is true...and regarding that thread and the supposed "study",
dude never did come up with a source for his "study" and the Google search he advised doesn't turn up JACK. I'm smellin' some BULL SHIT.

-e.

The Revenge of Disco

"Disco music is a disease," said Steve Dahl in Last Night A DJ Saved My Life by Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton. "We must do everything possible to stop the spread of this plague."

A radio DJ out of Chicago in the late '70s, Dahl is responsible for the infamous "Disco Sucks" bumper sticker you may still see occasionally. He launched an anti-disco campaign that was as much a protest to the music as it was to homosexuality.

In many ways, disco was a musical catalyst and cultural stigma for homosexuality to cling on to and come out into the public sphere with. Because of the overt hetero-backlash that occurred largely after John Trovolta threw down his polyester-wearing dance moves in front of millions of Americans in Saturday Night Fever, many were to forever throw away their polyester regalia-along with their disco records.

And as musical histories across the board began to blot out this era of music's impact on what was to follow, it has become largely unknown that what we listen to today is largely a continuation or direct influence of disco.

Getting the most obvious out of the way, when people ask me to define what house music is, I tell them it is a continuation or evolution of disco music. And in fact, techno, which sprung out of house (and not the other way around) draws its roots from disco as well. Hence, you can trace drum and bass, break beats, trance, techno and house all back to disco music.

That's all dance music, though. I'm sure you could all make that connection, but what is even more unknown is that hip hop was largely influenced by disco. In fact, all your founders of the celebrated "hip hop hooray" genre DJ'ed disco music. Yes, it is true. Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash and Afrika Bambaataa all threw down the hustle. This may come as a surprise merely because some have written hip hop off as a retaliation or antithesis of disco, when in actuality, the two scenes were very much merged at the beginning.

And I don't even want to get into the '80s dance music scene. I'll just say that you can view that whole era as disco music slightly altered and repackaged through clever marketing and fashion trends. Disco was just too infectious to completely throw away since it was just a matter of the social issues attached to the music.

But as for electronic music, you go to most clubs these days with the four-to-the-floor-beat, or even any of the post-rave era raves, and you'll see straight Caucasians, while blacks are often where the hip hop is at. What is ironic about this situation is that from the roots, dance music (house, disco, techno) was dominated by black and gay artists and appreciaters. The founders of house music, Frankie Knuckles and Ron Hardy, were both brothas but from different mothas. Larry Levan, the resident DJ at the Paradise Garage, which was the cornerstone of underground disco culture in New York, was black and flamboyantly gay.

Somewhere along the way, the majority of black culture moved away from contemporary electronic music and whites moved in. Gays largely gave up on following all the new forms of music that were inspired by their clubs (i.e. underground house, drum and bass, break beats, trance, etc.) and straights moved in and segmented the scene.

"I view house as disco's revenge," said Frankie Knuckles in Last Night A DJ Saved My Life. And why I mention all of this historical information on music is that many, many members of the dance community in Omaha are very disassociated from their roots. Being a participant in music doesn't necessarily mean they are obligated to know the history, but undoubtedly, the history can deepen appreciation and give a fuller understanding. But for Omaha, there is no tangible resource for people to access this information. And when speaking of the technical side of DJ'ing, there is absolutely nothing out there, apart from a friend or casual conversation, to teach people or inspire the youth to DJ'ing and know its culture and history.

The Resolution

In an effort to remedy this situation, I've taken it upon myself to organize a four-week course on the ins and outs of the wheels of steel. If you're looking to learn what DJ equipment you should buy, where to get music, how to use what you buy, philosophy on playing music, the history of it all and basic steps in promoting yourself, I have just the thing for you. I'm renting a studio at Hot Shops, tracking down lots of equipment and putting together multi-media presentations to break down the lofty concepts. For more information and registration, visit Ultramusique.com/v3/arts.

[Chip_E]

DUDE....you realize there's a difference between an "article" and a "study",
right?

OK...so YOU used the word "study", but you reference an "article".

Does the study exist inside or outside your mind?

-e.

[D J 1 3 8]

we REALLY need to close the board to new members for awhile :jpshakehead:

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

we REALLY need to close the board to new members for awhile :jpshakehead:

Ignore them and they'll go away

[D J 1 3 8]

Ignore them and they'll go away

if only this were true, but current membership says different

[Stan747]

the snobbishness on this board is so thick it can be cut with an axe

[D J 1 3 8]

if the shoe fits

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

the snobbishness on this board is so thick it can be cut with an axe

it's not snobbishness, it's called "having a standard".

[Stan747]

it's not snobbishness, it's called "having a standard".

I understand that part Alanda, and I wasn't referring to your post. I wasn't referring to the other person that made that little smart ass remark either, but he still chose to stick his nose where it didn't belong...like his kind normally do.

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

I understand that part Alanda, and I wasn't referring to your post. I wasn't referring to the other person that made that little smart ass remark either, but he still chose to stick his nose where it didn't belong...like his kind normally do.

I understand. I wasn't offended, I though you were talking about others against Choco the newbie. Some people have too much time on their hands

[PlymouthCt711S]

Someone need's to come up with a way for us to honor his legacy.

[choco]

Ignore them and they'll go away

It's all good Alanda. Thanks for not getting offended as I was only saying that most listeners of House seem to be those that are either gay friendly or gay because I'm sure we've all heard folks refer to House as that Fag shit even though I'm sure there are House Headz out there that understand and recognize that there is a conspiring effort to push this music that we love so much back down underground and wish it would just all go away. I in no way was trying to say that only gay people like House Music because I have many a straight friend that like to groove. I'm so glad and I feel the love in this FAM. Peace.

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

Choco you have a right to say what you feel.I think they were getting at you becaue you were new.Its not personal they do it everybody lol.Seems you generalize a bit much.Not everybody that listens to house music is gay friendly,nor is everybody that listens to house music spiritual.You would be surprised at some of the politics involved with the scene.Some have this view of everyone picking berries and burning incense and gliding on baby powder.While thats a nice vision it's not the truth.

Sometimes you have to analyze things for what they are.Sit back and read some of the threads and posts that some people make on this board and you'd me amazed.What turns my stomach is the ones that hide behind the bible and are just as wicked if not more than anyone else.

[choco]

Choco you have a right to say what you feel.I think they were getting at you becaue you were new.Its not personal they do it everybody lol.Seems you generalize a bit much.Not everybody that listens to house music is gay friendly,nor is everybody that listens to house music spiritual.You would be surprised at some of the politics involved with the scene.Some have this view of everyone picking berries and burning incense and gliding on baby powder.While thats a nice vision it's not the truth.

Sometimes you have to analyze things for what they are.Sit back and read some of the threads and posts that some people make on this board and you'd me amazed.What turns my stomach is the ones that hide behind the bible and are just as wicked if not more than anyone else.

I heard that.

[liL Ray]

Sometimes you have to analyze things for what they are.Sit back and read some of the threads and posts that some people make on this board and you'd me amazed.

you have come a long way, baby....

lol

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you have come a long way, baby....

lol
You read my mind...back in my lurking days, no-one got banned more often than Silky (Discounting PWW) :biggrin: It was all a bit :scared:

I was gob-smacked when I realised Phyllis and Silky were one and the same. There's definitely a calmer air about you now Silky :respent:

[Rasmir Mantree]

I 've been living with HIV for almost 6 years, love house music and I'm not gay. I'm also having the best time of my life. Instead of counting your days, Try to make each day count.

[Phyllis Hyman Cherry]

Suspended honestly,there is something to be said about psychotropic drugs and therapy.I feel like myself again before i was outta control in life as well.

[liL Ray]

damn, this topic is just chock full of revelations....

damn...

carry on.

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Suspended honestly,there is something to be said about psychotropic drugs and therapy.

Have they helped you gain an appreciation for Prince yet? :wink: Just asking.

Joking aside, I'm glad you're happier. It's easier to see and appreciate your humour now, before, it was hard to tell if you were making a cutting joke or rolling up your sleeves for another full on blow-out.

Even the drama on the DHP has been quality :grinyes:

[FK]

What turns my stomach is the ones that hide behind the bible and are just as wicked if not more than anyone else.

Care to elaborate on why it is that for a country that allegedly has 'separation of church and state' mandated in its very
Constitution we are currently witnessing a virtual contest battle from each of our 'presidential candidates' out to prove that they are
more devout and deeply religious than the next one?

I know, it sounds like thread hijack... yet, the Steve Dahl constituency, and the Bible-Thumpers™ sometimes appear -to me- as
being one and the same group of haters.

Yano, maybe I'm just old and paranoid?

FK