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delshawn
08-17-2003, 11:53 PM
No Do not look at it that way. Title only written to grasp your attention that way.

But has anyone notice that in the life of House people are more prone to remember a DJ that the singer of a song? Maybe not you personally Mr/Ms Housemusic Aficionado.

Does the greater popularity of the DJ actually make it harder for the singer, in that the people who go to the club are there to hear a VOLUME of hits (what a DJ carries around), instead of a One-hit-Wonder (what the average garage musician hasmony enough to produce)?


What is your spin Pro or Con... and are you speaking as a DJ, Musician, or Partier?


..........del

delshawn
08-18-2003, 12:30 PM
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GROOVE VICTIM
08-18-2003, 12:53 PM
This an aspect of the scene that should be discussed more often. I know Larry Rausen and others discussed this earlier.

Bottom line is that House Music has no "Stars" when it comes to singers and instrumentalists. The DJ is the star of the show and no matter how shitty he or she will play compared to some of the lesser known DJs, they will always get the praise.

It's assbackwards. You have singers putting their lives in the hands of DJs who only play "a certain kind of House" and you wonder why there aren't that many of them hanging around in our genre anymore.

Then you have labels BS'n around by not putting out a quality record and keeping the good stuff only for themselves and a "few" big DJs. Who does this benefit?


Peace

And
08-18-2003, 01:10 PM
Interesting, I've never thought about it that way ... (singers not as great as mixers). To me singers and Djs are PARTNERS. Is a Dj really more popular if he's playing your song gig after gig after gig? Is a Dj more popular when people come up to him to ask for a track i.d and he gives the name of the singer and title of a song? Personally, I give a big whoot whoot graemlins/cheering.gif to all the Djs I dig 'cause without them, I really wouldn't know a good number of the tracks I know now. Perhaps the Dj is more popular 'cause I get to see him more often but the music is being spread which is the whole point right? Why are things not looked at as team work and always greater than less than. It's tiresome.

GROOVE VICTIM
08-18-2003, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by 6 23:
Interesting, I've never thought about it that way ... (singers not as great as mixers). To me singers and Djs are PARTNERS. Is a Dj really more popular if he's playing your song gig after gig after gig? Is a Dj more popular when people come up to him to ask for a track i.d and he gives the name of the singer and title of a song? Personally, I give a big whoot whoot graemlins/cheering.gif to all the Djs I dig 'cause without them, I really wouldn't know a good number of the tracks I know now. Perhaps the Dj is more popular 'cause I get to see him more often but the music is being spread which is the whole point right? Why are things not looked at as team work and always greater than less than. It's tiresome. Give praise to the DJs is a must but at the same time you have to think to yourself, "DJ so and so played a hot record by Kenny Bobien last night, I also heard that it's not coming out."

Singers working their ass off for for an unreleased record? And you can't compare this to RnB singers. Yes there's alot of unreleased material that many RnB and Hip Hop stars have stashed in the vaults of some record label but at the same time they're still able to make a living because of their multi million dollar record deals and mass marketing.

Makes no sense to me.

And
08-18-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
Interesting, I've never thought about it that way ... (singers not as great as mixers). To me singers and Djs are PARTNERS. Is a Dj really more popular if he's playing your song gig after gig after gig? Is a Dj more popular when people come up to him to ask for a track i.d and he gives the name of the singer and title of a song? Personally, I give a big whoot whoot graemlins/cheering.gif to all the Djs I dig 'cause without them, I really wouldn't know a good number of the tracks I know now. Perhaps the Dj is more popular 'cause I get to see him more often but the music is being spread which is the whole point right? Why are things not looked at as team work and always greater than less than. It's tiresome. Give praise to the DJs is a must but at the same time you have to think to yourself, "DJ so and so played a hot record by Kenny Bobien last night, I also heard that it's not coming out."

Singers working their ass off for for an unreleased record? And you can't compare this to RnB singers. Yes there's alot of unreleased material that many RnB and Hip Hop stars have stashed in the vaults of some record label but at the same time they're still able to make a living because of their multi million dollar record deals and mass marketing.

Makes no sense to me. </font>[/QUOTE]I know very little about how songs get put out or why and how Djs get copies of unreleased material but ... if the material isn't going to be released anyway, doesn't the exposure mean good things for the artist? Maybe the popularity of a song could encourage a record label to put out the song. What do you propose would help this situation?

GROOVE VICTIM
08-18-2003, 02:28 PM
In my opinion I think it puts the artist in a situation where he or she doesn't know when and where they are getting their next paycheck. They get one hit record, do a small tour and what's next after that. The climate of our scene changes very quickly, one minute you're the shit, the next minute you're a has been. This may have not been the case 10 years ago but I can imagine what an artist has to do to make in our genre today.

Peace

[ August 18, 2003, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]