Why Didn't It Fall?

[david_mancuso]

A B-25 bomber crashed into the 79th floor of the Empire State Building on July 28, 1945.
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The Crash:

At 9:49 a.m., the ten-ton, B-25 bomber smashed into the north side of the Empire State Building. The majority of the plane hit the 79th floor, creating a hole in the building eighteen feet wide and twenty feet high. The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.

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March 1996

NEW YORK- Lost amid the hoopla surrounding the celebrations of the end of World War II has been the 50th anniversary of the army plane crash into the Empire State Building. Many do not know of the tragic incident of July 28, 1945 -- the day a B-25 bomber, lost in fog, rammed into what was then the world's tallest building.



complete story:


http://www.esbnyc.com/tourism/tourism_facts_esbnews_mar1996.cfm?CFID

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It didn't fall because it wasn't full of explosives.

[david_mancuso]

It didn't fall because it wasn't full of explosives.

k :)

[Drrtynewyork]

hmmm a Boeing 767 filled with jet fuel vs a much smaller propeller plane :rolleyes:

[david_mancuso]

General characteristics

Crew: six (two pilots, navigator/bombardier, turret gunner/engineer, radio operator/waist gunner, tail gunner
Length: 52 ft 11 in (16.1 m)
Wingspan: 67 ft 6 in (20.6 m)
Height: 17 ft 7 in (4.8 m)
Wing area: 610 ft² (57 m²)
Empty weight: 21,120 lb (9,580 kg)
Loaded weight: 33,510 lb (15,200 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 41,800 lb (19,000 kg)
Powerplant: 2× Wright R-2600 "Cyclone" radials, 1,850 hp (1,380 kW) each

[Drrtynewyork]

450,000lbs take off weight of 767 vs 33,000 lbs of bomber
568 mph of 767 vs 275mph top speed for bomber
23,900 gallons of fuel for the 767 vs 692 gallons for the bomber


:rolleyes:

[david_mancuso]

Getting it sorted out...

The Empire State Building is reguarded as one of the most fire resistant buildings in NYC by the NYC Fire Department.

The B-25 was less than one tenth the mass of the aircraft that hit the WTC.

The speed of the impact was about one third.

etc.

[DJ Loka]

Getting it sorted out...

The Empire State Building is reguarded as one of the most fire resistant buildings in NYC by the NYC Fire Department.

The B-25 was less than one tenth the mass of the aircraft that hit the WTC.

The speed of the impact was about one third.

etc.

if you play the Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band Album backwards while masturbating furiously under a full moon...Ringo will tell you the answers to all unanswered questions.

[DaveR]

if you play the Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band Album backwards while masturbating furiously under a full moon...Ringo will tell you the answers to all unanswered questions.
:rofl: :rofl5:

[david_mancuso]

"if you play the Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band Album backwards while masturbating furiously under a full moon...Ringo will tell you the answers to all unanswered questions."

-DJ Loka

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Greetings DJ Loka :)

Thanks for allowing me to have a good laugh at myself. I flew right into this one!

btw....

I hope this makes up for it:

Laurel and Hardy Dance To The Gap Band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3mHPmNKRE

(now all I need to be is L on this one)

[DJ Loka]

"if you play the Sargent Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band Album backwards while masturbating furiously under a full moon...Ringo will tell you the answers to all unanswered questions."

-DJ Loka

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Greetings DJ Loka :)

Thanks for allowing me to have a good laugh at myself. I flew right into this one!

btw....

I hope this makes up for it:

Laurel and Hardy Dance To The Gap Band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL3mHPmNKRE

(now all I need to be is L on this one)




owwwww party train!!!!! :rofl5::icon_rofl::respent::wink:

[david_mancuso]

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Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. ~ Charlie Parker~


Remember, information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth; truth is not beauty; beauty is not love; love is not music; music is the best. ~Frank Zappa~


Number is the Word but is not utterance; it is wave and light, though no one sees it; it is rhythm and music, though no one hears it. Its variations are limitless and yet it is immutable. Each form of life is a particular reverberation of Number. ~ Maurice Druon, From the Memoirs of Zeus~


Music has charms to soothe the savage beast. ~WILLIAM CONGREVE, The Mourning Bride~


As I play the game of life
I try to make it better each and every day.
And when I struggle in the night
The magic of the music seems to light the way. ~John Lennon, Intuition~

[mjoseph]

miracles do happen

[edit] Rotunda of Mosta (Mosta Dome)
Main article: Rotunda of Mosta
Mosta boasts the third largest unsupported dome in Europe [1] dedicated to the Assumption. The Feast of the Assumption is held on August 15 and it is a public holiday. The church is also known as the Rotunda of St Marija Assunta. On 9 April 1942, the church was nearly destroyed during World War 2. An Axis bomb pierced the dome of the church but failed to explode.

This was one of the biggest churches and there were hundreds of people in it. No one was killed and this was considered as a miracle. A replica bomb is now in the church

a different perspective..

On 9th April 1942, two German Luftwaffe pilots attacked Ta' Qali airfield near Mosta. One of them dropped a bomb over the Mosta Dome. It was a precise hit. The pilot was then hit by anti-aircraft fire and drowned. The second pilot, Professor Sauer, almost perished at sea himself in another raid only eight days after the attack on Mosta. He was rescued after a week in the water. A catholic, he lived with the remorse of seeing his colleague destroy a unique church. This remorse lasted 33 years. In 1975 he returned to Malta as a tourist and went to look at the ruins. Instead he found the majestic Mosta Dome, third largest in the world, standing supreme. Had the Maltese built an exact replica?

Actually, the bomb went right through the church dome while a service was taking place with 300 people inside. The bomb missed all of the congregation, slid along the floor and came to rest without exploding. Today, the bomb can still be seen in the ante room along which also houses the gift shop made up of gifts from all parts of the world.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

miracles do happen

[edit] Rotunda of Mosta (Mosta Dome)
Main article: Rotunda of Mosta
Mosta boasts the third largest unsupported dome in Europe [1] dedicated to the Assumption. The Feast of the Assumption is held on August 15 and it is a public holiday. The church is also known as the Rotunda of St Marija Assunta. On 9 April 1942, the church was nearly destroyed during World War 2. An Axis bomb pierced the dome of the church but failed to explode.

This was one of the biggest churches and there were hundreds of people in it. No one was killed and this was considered as a miracle. A replica bomb is now in the church

a different perspective..

On 9th April 1942, two German Luftwaffe pilots attacked Ta' Qali airfield near Mosta. One of them dropped a bomb over the Mosta Dome. It was a precise hit. The pilot was then hit by anti-aircraft fire and drowned. The second pilot, Professor Sauer, almost perished at sea himself in another raid only eight days after the attack on Mosta. He was rescued after a week in the water. A catholic, he lived with the remorse of seeing his colleague destroy a unique church. This remorse lasted 33 years. In 1975 he returned to Malta as a tourist and went to look at the ruins. Instead he found the majestic Mosta Dome, third largest in the world, standing supreme. Had the Maltese built an exact replica?

Actually, the bomb went right through the church dome while a service was taking place with 300 people inside. The bomb missed all of the congregation, slid along the floor and came to rest without exploding. Today, the bomb can still be seen in the ante room along which also houses the gift shop made up of gifts from all parts of the world.

Why is it a miracle?

[david_mancuso]

Greetings mjoseph :)

If you get a chance check out the movie "King of Hearts." Classic.

d.

[mjoseph]

Why is it a miracle?

a one ton bomb landing (as a direct hit) through this:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_gTLYT5ISCCs/Rs1my2limPI/AAAAAAAAAaQ/kUcPpTuL2eE/s320/1.jpg

next to a 300 person congregation (and not exploding) = a miracle my friend :wink:

[mjoseph]

Greetings mjoseph :)

If you get a chance check out the movie "King of Hearts." Classic.

d.

absolutley, thank you will do :)

[Chip_E]

All I can say is, this is a complex topic that can easily divide people into two different camps of thinking.

After a considerable amount of thought on this, I could make a good case for either side and not feel bad about myself or my position on the topic.

Good points have been made by all, and this won't be a topic that's easy or quick to be resolved.

-e.