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Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 10:53 AM
Brace yourself. This list is not for the faint of heart. You may not like some of it. You may feel that some of these suggestions are not a DJ's job. Well, what's it going to be? Perfect mixes for your underwear drawer, or are you going to put some effort into becoming a real DJ?

Only 3 of the 8 bullet points have anything to do with the actual art of DJing--and they are waaaay down on the list. The rest are useful, pragmatic, and practical tips on how to really make it.

It takes some effort--and some elbow grease--to get your name out there. Follow these simple steps, and you'll be able to play your music in front of a crowd.

As a DJ, you will get your gigs from one of three people: promoters, other DJs, and yourself by throwing your own parties. Of the three, the main person you need to know to get gigs is the promoter. That should be obvious. Now, what isn't so obvious is what promoters care about. Sadly, your mixing ability is usually the last thing on their mind. I have spun at, helped promote, and created over 300 events in the past 6 years. You know what promoters focus on? Getting bodies through the door. I love the scene, I love people dancing, and when I promote, its a game of numbers. I look for DJs that will put bodies into the building.

On a deeper spiritual level, keep in mind that to really be successful as a DJ, it's not about you. It's about the music, the dancers, and the scene. If you're just looking for attention, that type of vibe takes from the scene. The more you give to the world of DJing, the more the world of DJing will give back to you.

Here are 10 ways you can start contributing to the music scene. The more you contribute, the more your DJ career will grow. These tips will improve your DJ skills, get you entrenched in your local scene, and make you the sought after DJ for upcoming events.

The following tips are given in the order of importance.

1. Get an e-mail list together and promote parties.

This is the biggest one of all. 9 times out of 10, the promoter will go with a lesser quality DJ with a mailing list over a talented DJ that doesn't promote. Start a mailing list now. Ask people for their e-mails. Do not give out your card and expect them to join up. Get their card, and then you'll be able to add them for sure. Start a collection of friends on tribe, myspace, or whatever social network site your community uses.

MAKE SURE EVERY PROMOTER IN TOWN IS ON THAT LIST. Then, send out info on what parties are happening. Even if you're not spinning, start sending out the info. Just by having a mailing list, people will start associating your DJ name with great parties. When a promoter starts seeing your name every week on those emails, and sees that you get people out to parties, you will now suddenly be in a whole new category. Once a week, tell your list where the party is happening. Talk about the good parties afterwards. Talk to promoters about giving your list special treatment. Ask promoters to let your list in for $5 less. That will reward people for being on your mailing list.

2. Take pictures and post them on your website.

Fresh content gets repeat traffic to your website. You do have a website, right? If you don't, talk to a toaster until you get over your technology phobia, then have your nephew to set up a website for you. Check out HOTTORRENT.COM--not only is it free, but they have all the tools you need without having to build your own website. They have mailing list functions, photo galleries, and everything else you might need. Be sure that people can add their name to the mailing list as they look at pictures.

People forward out photo links. You want to catch them the second they think "wow, those look like fun parties." Take photos of the pretty people, take crowd shots, make the party look like it's going off. It may be shallow, but you are building your scene with these techniques. After a few photo galleries like this, you'll see a rise in attendance, and people will start to recognize your name. They will also have this impression that you're involved with great parties.

3. Make a list of promoters and DJs you want to know in your local scene, and start working with them.

Your DJ career will come from your circle of friends. It's that simple. So pick DJs and promoters you vibe with, and find a way to meet them. Go to as many parties as you can that they are spinning at or throwing. Say hi to them each time you go to one of their events. After awhile, you'll be a regular, and you'll find yourself being given much more respect from promoters and DJs. Don't ask them for DJ slots until you get to know them. The goal is to become friends and help them throw events, or carry record boxes, or pick up fliers at the airport, or give them DJ rides to the airport for out-of-town gigs. Promoters and DJs really need support staff, and usually can't pay people for this. They end up with a network of up-and-coming scenesters and bedroom DJs that work with them and are on the move.

Don't be a suck up. Be real, be yourself, and be up front that you enjoy what they create for the scene, and be persistent in offering them help. Come at them as an equal. Hero worship is fine from fans, but you're going to co create with these people. E-mail the promoters each and every time they throw a party. Offer to help each time. Promoters deal with many flakes, so don't expect them to welcome you in right away. They want to get to know you, and you have to just keep offering until they let you in to help. You'll learn a lot about the scene, and party politics, and make friends. This will put you as a person and DJ on the map as someone deserving a break on the decks. Then you can ask them for a gig.

4. Make demo CDs.

There are two reasons to make mix CDs. First of all, it's good for you to record your sets, all the time. You'll learn much faster by reviewing your work. Songs are introduced into your headphone long before the mix. Because of this, many bedroom DJs end up doing short blends, without realizing it. When you listen to your mixes, suddenly what you missed jumps out at you as a listener. The other reason for making demo CDs is obvious--you will have CDs to give promoters to let them hear your style, track choice, and mixing skills. Give these CDs to everyone, BUT ONLY WHEN THEY ARE GOOD. Never give out a badly mixed CD with obvious train wrecks. It will do more damage to your career than good. It's easy to get a promoter to listen to your first CD. But if the first one sucks, it's very hard to get them to listen to a second one. Give CDs out to everyone after your DJ mentors give it the thumbs up. Start building that fan base.

5. Spin with DJs that are better than you to learn new skills.

If you mix with good DJs, several things will happen. First, when you tag team practice, it will make you more comfortable when you're in a club environment, taking the decks and dance floor over from another DJ. You want to practice this. It'll trip you up if you haven't played with other DJs.

Next, practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. So find great DJs, ask them to coach you, and learn why their mixing sounds so good. Last, once you start growing as a DJ, many times these DJs will get you gigs once you're ready. People help out their friends. When they see you doing well, they'll often times make a call and say, "He's ready." A promoter is much more likely to hire you if an established DJ vouches for you.


6. Keep current on your music.

Buy at least 2 new songs a month, or better yet, buy at least 1 new track each week. You need to be checking the download sites, and hitting the record stores regularly. Buy from several different places. This will make you a better DJ, with a more rounded record box. You are only as good as your tracks. Do your homework, put in the maintenance time on your collection. read up on charts in your genre, and be familiar with what's new, what's old, and what's overplayed.

7. Throw your own parties.

One great way to get out there is to simply find a space, talk to a bar with a club, and start throwing your own parties. When you bring in other DJs, they will think of you in a new light. If you get them gigs, often times they will help you get gigs in return. Promoters will want to hire you since you'll start having a draw.

8. Buy or get access to a sound system.

The first person a promoter calls is the sound guy. If you're the sound guy and a decent DJ, well, isn't that convenient for the promoter When I started out DJing, I realized that if I had a sound system and made myself and the speakers a package deal, I would spin out much more often. It worked great. I was always the sound guy and opening DJ. So, I would show up, bring the gear, spin, and then meet the headlining DJs for the night. I priced myself as cheap as renting the gear, only now I would bring the gear, instead of the promoter having to deal with picking it up, setting it up, and all that hassle. This jump-started my career, and soon I was on every bill, playing at every party.

I spent about $1,500 bucks on speakers, and after 10 gigs, the speakers were paid off. After that, I made money on those exact speakers for well on 6 years. My early career is completely owed to having the sound system. Even if you can't buy a sound system, find someone who owns one that trusts you to borrow it. Make a deal where you split the money 50/50 for them owning and you managing rentals on it. Then, you can make yourself useful to the scene. One note- if you go this route, you must show up on time, and follow through on your commitments every time. No one wants to work with a flake. Your reputation is everything in this musical freelance environment.

9. Go to parties.

This may seem obvious too, but I am amazed at how many bedroom DJs want to spin, but hardly ever go to clubs. When you get serious about being a DJ, you need to know the lay of the land. Go to parties outside your normal bubble. See what scenes are happening. Go to all types of parties. Know what venues work with what styles. Listen to what's being played, and think about how your music fits into the larger picture. If you support other promoters events, they are more likely to support your events. Listen to people talking about other DJs, and what they like and don't like. When you go to spin your music, spin what you love. If you know what the overplayed tracks are, you can avoid them in your sets and stand out more as a DJ. You can also sound more unique by knowing what sounds and influences are underplayed. Sign up for every mailing list imaginable. You want to have your finger on the pulse of the scene.

10. Be nice.

Look, I'm going to come out and say it. The music scene, and the party scene is all about being social. Just be nice. No one wants to work with jerks. Promoters will hire cool DJs over jerks all the time. Who would you rather give money to: someone you like or someone you don't like. As you venture out into the scene, don't engage in gossip. Avoid flame wars on websites.

Be real, be friendly, and keep a positive attitude. Win the war, not the battle. If you lose your time slot for some reason, don't yell and scream at the promoter, or other DJs. Show grace, and say "Bummer. But I totally understand why that's happening, and no problem. I'd love a chance to spin for you some other time." You'll be brought out so much more when you're a drama-free zone.

One time at a small festival of 1,000 people, I had a DJ that pulled all sorts of drama around scheduling. He was worried about losing his slot, and was a total prick about it. What he didn't know, and what he was shocked at when I shared with him later on how our crew works, is that we were just gearing up to play Electric Daisy Carnival- a 30,000-person massive. Had he actually lost his slot, and been nice, I would have made sure he got a slot on the next bill, which was a huge event. Instead he kicked and screamed, got a 45 minute slot, and cut into another DJ's slot, and fell right off our "DJs we use" list. The DJ who lost the 45 minutes to him did so with good grace, and got the E.D.C. gig. Be nice.

I hope these pointers help inspire you to get moving on making your dreams a reality. Music, dancing and DJing is a great creative outlet. You don't have to have Mozart's musical skills. You can still add to the scene in many personal, powerful ways. The main thing is to get out there, start meeting people, and make it happen for yourself and your scene. Do not sit around waiting for the phone to ring. You're attracted to music for a reason. Express it. Somewhere down the road, people will be cornering you at events, talking about how much they love what you contribute to the scene, and thanking you for bringing such joy into their lives. Play the music you love, and do the work needed to make the night a success. The world genuinely will be a better place with your full contribution to the scene.


Read this...again...and agian...and again.

No one owes a dj shit...don't matter if you played records for the last supper afterhours party....remember that!!!

liL Ray
12-18-2007, 10:58 AM
too much reading...

I think I will just stick to the "why ain't nobody putting me on" message board, bitching technique, that I have been using in the past.

Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 10:58 AM
too much reading...

I think I will just stick to the "why ain't nobody putting me on" message board, bitching technique, that I have been using in the past.

Yeah,reading is for lames....bwahahahaha.

HOUSE MIKE FEVA
12-18-2007, 10:59 AM
:clap:

jojaujae3
12-18-2007, 11:00 AM
This mos def is on point and GR8 advice not just to Djs but to promoters also trying to make a name for themselves

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:06 AM
actually How to Get Put On should really come from those of US who do the booking.. no offense 6.


lets title this Why I dont book your azz....

#1- If Ive never heard you LIVE @ an event I AINT BOOKING U.

#2 -If you don't move me.... I.e If you can't play... I AINT BOOKING U.

#3- If you don't draw a crowd.... I AINT BOOKING U.

#4- IF you are disgruntle and lazy, and only complain... I AINT BOOKING U.

#5- If you don't understand that you are a HIRED GUN and you aint running shyt... and this is MY SHYT ...I AINT BOOKING U.

#6- if you Can Not Play for a diverse crowd- I AINT BOOKING U.

#7- if you call yourself a soulful DJ ... I AINT BOOKING U.

#8- If you have a reputation of BREAKING contracts, not being professional, and having a history of DIVA moments ....I AINT BOOKING U.

#9 - IF I HAVE MORE MUSIC THAN U...I AINT BOOKING U.

#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


hows that?

Long Island Head
12-18-2007, 11:08 AM
10. Be nice. ---Good Point.

So many DJ's (and heads) are stuck up and if you say hello or can I buy a Cd? its like pulling teeth. And all you want to do is support!

One of the few things I hate about the scene :rolleyes:

Well at least in NYC, this sought shit happens.

liL Ray
12-18-2007, 11:11 AM
lets title this Why I dont book your azz....

#1- If Ive never heard you LIVE @ an event I AINT BOOKING U.

#2 -If you don't move me.... I.e If you can't play... I AINT BOOKING U.

#3- If you don't draw a crowd.... I AINT BOOKING U.

#4- IF you are disgruntle and lazy, and only complain... I AINT BOOKING U.

#5- If you don't understand that you are a HIRED GUN and you aint running shyt... and this is MY SHYT ...I AINT BOOKING U.

#6- if you Can Not Play for a diverse crowd- I AINT BOOKING U.

#7- if you call yourself a soulful DJ ... I AINT BOOKING U.

#8- If you have a reputation of BREAKING contracts, not being professional, and having a history of DIVA moments ....I AINT BOOKING U.

#9 - IF I HAVE MORE MUSIC THAN U...I AINT BOOKING U.

#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


hows that?all of the above, plus:
#11 - If you can't play better than me....I AIN'T BOOKING YOU....and this is the truth for me...

...and I so agree with #5...I am a controlling bitch when it's my event, believe in dictatorship when it comes to doing a party... I don't need your input and will not ask for it...I will not tell you how to play, because I already know what you can do...THAT'S WHY I BOOKED YOU!!!

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:13 AM
all of the above, plus:
#11 - If you can't play better than me....I AIN'T BOOKING YOU....and this is the truth for me...

...and I so agree with #5...I am a controlling bitch when it's my event, believe in dictatorship when it comes to doing a party... I don't need your input and will not ask for it...I will not tell you how to play, because I already know what you can do...THAT'S WHY I BOOKED YOU!!!


i dont know why but that just made my pannies jingle.

U know I phuccs witchu right Mishu?

liL Ray
12-18-2007, 11:18 AM
i dont know why but that just made my pannies jingle.



jingling pannies is a real problem for me...

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:20 AM
jingling pannies is a real problem for me...


jingle as in ... made them "move" like the front of your pants jumping....


feel me smartazz LOL :rofl:


keep saying we ought to do an event 2geva!

liL Ray
12-18-2007, 11:24 AM
keep saying we ought to do an event 2geva!
2 controlling bitches doing an event...picture that?

soulman
12-18-2007, 11:27 AM
written by a dude that just played Paris and Japan...I think he would know what to do.....bravo (and I ain't even a DJ or a promoter.....yet! but my quest for world DJ domination continues!)

Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 11:30 AM
written by a dude that just played Paris and Japan...I think he would know what to do.....bravo (and I ain't even a DJ or a promoter.....yet! but my quest for world DJ domination continues!)

I actually didn't write this.Just studied it...

If I'm not mistaken,Dave R posted this sometime ago.

There are some folks who take note of the wisdom dropped here...

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:30 AM
2 controlling bitches doing an event...picture that?


a real woman knows when and where to acquiesce.


I think we would be awesome .... seriously.

I know my strengths and weaknesses... I dwell in and RULE the realm of details.

think about it. We would make some loot just on folks coming to see if we killed each other :rofl5:

DUBFLY
12-18-2007, 11:30 AM
jingle as in ... made them "move" like the front of your pants jumping....


feel me smartazz LOL :rofl:


keep saying we ought to do an event 2geva!



#12- if you Can Not Dance- I AINT BOOKING U.
a dj that cannot dance worries me !!

soulman
12-18-2007, 11:32 AM
[/QUOTE]
#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


hows that?[/QUOTE]

now wait a minute.....I'm over 35.....:rofl:

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:33 AM
#12- if you Can Not Dance- I AINT BOOKING U.
a dj that cannot dance worries me !!

hmmmm.


Karizma and Greg Gray THINK they can dance !!!


:rofl5::rofl5::rofl5:

god they gonna kill me. :rofl:

I saw LLV try and buss a move behind the decks once... it was soooooooo ugly. poor thang.

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:34 AM
#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


hows that?[/quote]

now wait a minute.....I'm over 35.....:rofl:[/quote]


I'll put you on the guest list.... but sorry boo I aint booking you.

liL Ray
12-18-2007, 11:34 AM
think about it. We would make some loot just on folks coming to see if we killed each other :rofl5:
you have a point there....lol

Physicalheat-The MusicMaster
12-18-2007, 11:36 AM
If I may add, Stay humble and treat the people at the party like guest. Answer the questions about a song you're playing, You never know, The person asking you may be the next person hiring you. - JMO

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:37 AM
you have a point there....lol


think about it ....

the shear possiblity of a bitch-slugfest would make us a mint. Dave R can be Don King.


I think we bth have a rep for professionalism and taking NO BS.

at least thats what I heard aboutchore azz... lol

Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 11:38 AM
If I may add, Stay humble and treat the people at the party like guest. Answer the questions about a song you're playing, You never know, The person asking you may be the next person hiring you. - JMO

True....

Perql8r
12-18-2007, 11:40 AM
Brace yourself. This list is not for the faint of heart. You may not like some of it. You may feel that some of these suggestions are not a DJ's job. Well, what's it going to be? Perfect mixes for your underwear drawer, or are you going to put some effort into becoming a real DJ?

Only 3 of the 8 bullet points have anything to do with the actual art of DJing--and they are waaaay down on the list. The rest are useful, pragmatic, and practical tips on how to really make it.

It takes some effort--and some elbow grease--to get your name out there. Follow these simple steps, and you'll be able to play your music in front of a crowd.

As a DJ, you will get your gigs from one of three people: promoters, other DJs, and yourself by throwing your own parties. Of the three, the main person you need to know to get gigs is the promoter. That should be obvious. Now, what isn't so obvious is what promoters care about. Sadly, your mixing ability is usually the last thing on their mind. I have spun at, helped promote, and created over 300 events in the past 6 years. You know what promoters focus on? Getting bodies through the door. I love the scene, I love people dancing, and when I promote, its a game of numbers. I look for DJs that will put bodies into the building.

On a deeper spiritual level, keep in mind that to really be successful as a DJ, it's not about you. It's about the music, the dancers, and the scene. If you're just looking for attention, that type of vibe takes from the scene. The more you give to the world of DJing, the more the world of DJing will give back to you.

Here are 10 ways you can start contributing to the music scene. The more you contribute, the more your DJ career will grow. These tips will improve your DJ skills, get you entrenched in your local scene, and make you the sought after DJ for upcoming events.

The following tips are given in the order of importance.

1. Get an e-mail list together and promote parties.

This is the biggest one of all. 9 times out of 10, the promoter will go with a lesser quality DJ with a mailing list over a talented DJ that doesn't promote. Start a mailing list now. Ask people for their e-mails. Do not give out your card and expect them to join up. Get their card, and then you'll be able to add them for sure. Start a collection of friends on tribe, myspace, or whatever social network site your community uses.

MAKE SURE EVERY PROMOTER IN TOWN IS ON THAT LIST. Then, send out info on what parties are happening. Even if you're not spinning, start sending out the info. Just by having a mailing list, people will start associating your DJ name with great parties. When a promoter starts seeing your name every week on those emails, and sees that you get people out to parties, you will now suddenly be in a whole new category. Once a week, tell your list where the party is happening. Talk about the good parties afterwards. Talk to promoters about giving your list special treatment. Ask promoters to let your list in for $5 less. That will reward people for being on your mailing list.

2. Take pictures and post them on your website.

Fresh content gets repeat traffic to your website. You do have a website, right? If you don't, talk to a toaster until you get over your technology phobia, then have your nephew to set up a website for you. Check out HOTTORRENT.COM--not only is it free, but they have all the tools you need without having to build your own website. They have mailing list functions, photo galleries, and everything else you might need. Be sure that people can add their name to the mailing list as they look at pictures.

People forward out photo links. You want to catch them the second they think "wow, those look like fun parties." Take photos of the pretty people, take crowd shots, make the party look like it's going off. It may be shallow, but you are building your scene with these techniques. After a few photo galleries like this, you'll see a rise in attendance, and people will start to recognize your name. They will also have this impression that you're involved with great parties.

3. Make a list of promoters and DJs you want to know in your local scene, and start working with them.

Your DJ career will come from your circle of friends. It's that simple. So pick DJs and promoters you vibe with, and find a way to meet them. Go to as many parties as you can that they are spinning at or throwing. Say hi to them each time you go to one of their events. After awhile, you'll be a regular, and you'll find yourself being given much more respect from promoters and DJs. Don't ask them for DJ slots until you get to know them. The goal is to become friends and help them throw events, or carry record boxes, or pick up fliers at the airport, or give them DJ rides to the airport for out-of-town gigs. Promoters and DJs really need support staff, and usually can't pay people for this. They end up with a network of up-and-coming scenesters and bedroom DJs that work with them and are on the move.

Don't be a suck up. Be real, be yourself, and be up front that you enjoy what they create for the scene, and be persistent in offering them help. Come at them as an equal. Hero worship is fine from fans, but you're going to co create with these people. E-mail the promoters each and every time they throw a party. Offer to help each time. Promoters deal with many flakes, so don't expect them to welcome you in right away. They want to get to know you, and you have to just keep offering until they let you in to help. You'll learn a lot about the scene, and party politics, and make friends. This will put you as a person and DJ on the map as someone deserving a break on the decks. Then you can ask them for a gig.

4. Make demo CDs.

There are two reasons to make mix CDs. First of all, it's good for you to record your sets, all the time. You'll learn much faster by reviewing your work. Songs are introduced into your headphone long before the mix. Because of this, many bedroom DJs end up doing short blends, without realizing it. When you listen to your mixes, suddenly what you missed jumps out at you as a listener. The other reason for making demo CDs is obvious--you will have CDs to give promoters to let them hear your style, track choice, and mixing skills. Give these CDs to everyone, BUT ONLY WHEN THEY ARE GOOD. Never give out a badly mixed CD with obvious train wrecks. It will do more damage to your career than good. It's easy to get a promoter to listen to your first CD. But if the first one sucks, it's very hard to get them to listen to a second one. Give CDs out to everyone after your DJ mentors give it the thumbs up. Start building that fan base.

5. Spin with DJs that are better than you to learn new skills.

If you mix with good DJs, several things will happen. First, when you tag team practice, it will make you more comfortable when you're in a club environment, taking the decks and dance floor over from another DJ. You want to practice this. It'll trip you up if you haven't played with other DJs.

Next, practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. So find great DJs, ask them to coach you, and learn why their mixing sounds so good. Last, once you start growing as a DJ, many times these DJs will get you gigs once you're ready. People help out their friends. When they see you doing well, they'll often times make a call and say, "He's ready." A promoter is much more likely to hire you if an established DJ vouches for you.


6. Keep current on your music.

Buy at least 2 new songs a month, or better yet, buy at least 1 new track each week. You need to be checking the download sites, and hitting the record stores regularly. Buy from several different places. This will make you a better DJ, with a more rounded record box. You are only as good as your tracks. Do your homework, put in the maintenance time on your collection. read up on charts in your genre, and be familiar with what's new, what's old, and what's overplayed.

7. Throw your own parties.

One great way to get out there is to simply find a space, talk to a bar with a club, and start throwing your own parties. When you bring in other DJs, they will think of you in a new light. If you get them gigs, often times they will help you get gigs in return. Promoters will want to hire you since you'll start having a draw.

8. Buy or get access to a sound system.

The first person a promoter calls is the sound guy. If you're the sound guy and a decent DJ, well, isn't that convenient for the promoter When I started out DJing, I realized that if I had a sound system and made myself and the speakers a package deal, I would spin out much more often. It worked great. I was always the sound guy and opening DJ. So, I would show up, bring the gear, spin, and then meet the headlining DJs for the night. I priced myself as cheap as renting the gear, only now I would bring the gear, instead of the promoter having to deal with picking it up, setting it up, and all that hassle. This jump-started my career, and soon I was on every bill, playing at every party.

I spent about $1,500 bucks on speakers, and after 10 gigs, the speakers were paid off. After that, I made money on those exact speakers for well on 6 years. My early career is completely owed to having the sound system. Even if you can't buy a sound system, find someone who owns one that trusts you to borrow it. Make a deal where you split the money 50/50 for them owning and you managing rentals on it. Then, you can make yourself useful to the scene. One note- if you go this route, you must show up on time, and follow through on your commitments every time. No one wants to work with a flake. Your reputation is everything in this musical freelance environment.

9. Go to parties.

This may seem obvious too, but I am amazed at how many bedroom DJs want to spin, but hardly ever go to clubs. When you get serious about being a DJ, you need to know the lay of the land. Go to parties outside your normal bubble. See what scenes are happening. Go to all types of parties. Know what venues work with what styles. Listen to what's being played, and think about how your music fits into the larger picture. If you support other promoters events, they are more likely to support your events. Listen to people talking about other DJs, and what they like and don't like. When you go to spin your music, spin what you love. If you know what the overplayed tracks are, you can avoid them in your sets and stand out more as a DJ. You can also sound more unique by knowing what sounds and influences are underplayed. Sign up for every mailing list imaginable. You want to have your finger on the pulse of the scene.

10. Be nice.

Look, I'm going to come out and say it. The music scene, and the party scene is all about being social. Just be nice. No one wants to work with jerks. Promoters will hire cool DJs over jerks all the time. Who would you rather give money to: someone you like or someone you don't like. As you venture out into the scene, don't engage in gossip. Avoid flame wars on websites.

Be real, be friendly, and keep a positive attitude. Win the war, not the battle. If you lose your time slot for some reason, don't yell and scream at the promoter, or other DJs. Show grace, and say "Bummer. But I totally understand why that's happening, and no problem. I'd love a chance to spin for you some other time." You'll be brought out so much more when you're a drama-free zone.

One time at a small festival of 1,000 people, I had a DJ that pulled all sorts of drama around scheduling. He was worried about losing his slot, and was a total prick about it. What he didn't know, and what he was shocked at when I shared with him later on how our crew works, is that we were just gearing up to play Electric Daisy Carnival- a 30,000-person massive. Had he actually lost his slot, and been nice, I would have made sure he got a slot on the next bill, which was a huge event. Instead he kicked and screamed, got a 45 minute slot, and cut into another DJ's slot, and fell right off our "DJs we use" list. The DJ who lost the 45 minutes to him did so with good grace, and got the E.D.C. gig. Be nice.

I hope these pointers help inspire you to get moving on making your dreams a reality. Music, dancing and DJing is a great creative outlet. You don't have to have Mozart's musical skills. You can still add to the scene in many personal, powerful ways. The main thing is to get out there, start meeting people, and make it happen for yourself and your scene. Do not sit around waiting for the phone to ring. You're attracted to music for a reason. Express it. Somewhere down the road, people will be cornering you at events, talking about how much they love what you contribute to the scene, and thanking you for bringing such joy into their lives. Play the music you love, and do the work needed to make the night a success. The world genuinely will be a better place with your full contribution to the scene.


Read this...again...and agian...and again.

No one owes a dj shit...don't matter if you played records for the last supper afterhours party....remember that!!!

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON POINT!!!!!

As a promoter, this should be called the Ten Commandments for DJs! As a matter of fact, promoters could use a lot of these steps as well.

*Printing, laminating, and posting to wall... :respect:

KBig
12-18-2007, 11:42 AM
True....


omg BINGPHUCCINGO!~


if you see me at your party consistently .... for a couple of weeks and then you dont... that means u dun phucc'd up somewhere.


repetition of the same gat dayum music will drive me away.

Not knowing the hottest music and not playing it will drive me away.

being rude will KEEP me away.


DJ's need to understand part of their job is to SELL THE MUSIC, spotlight the producers, and familiarize the public with the music coming out.

people ask for a reason.

fred da warrior
12-18-2007, 11:43 AM
....NO ONE wants to work with jerks.

Period.

Robbi
12-18-2007, 11:53 AM
lol

Chris Wood
12-18-2007, 12:18 PM
my new bible...

Sal Paradise
12-18-2007, 12:18 PM
Hey Jamie, nice post. Only thing I would amend is people you can get gigs from. Bar/club/lounge owners or managers are also people to procure jobs from. Actually for myself that has been the majority of the case. At this point it becomes much less about you and all about facilitating who there customers are.

VanillaSexy
12-18-2007, 12:24 PM
How in the hell do you actually learn the craft? I have asked plenty of people to get me started and they smile and I never hear from them again.:conf44:

Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 12:25 PM
How in the hell do you actually learn the craft? I have asked plenty of people to get me started and they smile and I never hear from them again.:conf44:

Read what I posted...

JMJ
12-18-2007, 12:25 PM
How in the hell do you actually learn the craft? I have asked plenty of people to get me started and they smile and I never hear from them again.:conf44:


Trial and error, mostly......JMJ

VanillaSexy
12-18-2007, 12:28 PM
Trial and error, mostly......JMJ

We had this conversation before and I liked your answer. So Sorry I missed you on Friday.:jpshakehead:

JMJ
12-18-2007, 12:29 PM
We had this conversation before and I liked your answer. So Sorry I missed you on Friday.:jpshakehead:

You missed a GREAT party - hope to see ya next time.....JMJ :)

Jay Rags
12-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Great post. You'd be surprised how many peeps don't do these things.



7. Throw your own parties.

One great way to get out there is to simply find a space, talk to a bar with a club, and start throwing your own parties. When you bring in other DJs, they will think of you in a new light. If you get them gigs, often times they will help you get gigs in return. Promoters will want to hire you since you'll start having a draw.

This one hit home most of all for me. Be likeable and throw your own shit. "I ain't kissing no ones @ss or carrying nobody's d@mn records to get on."


Promoting: From a promoter's standpoint......If I have a party for years and you as a dj has never been, don't ask me if you can play. Especially when you live in the very place where I have the party.

TAD
12-18-2007, 02:01 PM
#5- If you don't understand that you are a HIRED GUN and you aint running shyt... and this is MY SHYT ...I AINT BOOKING U.
you can keep your shit, that is if you think i'm gonna play on your wack ass system that you think is "more than enough" even when the place get rammed and the speakers, amps and my ears are clipping you're so drunk out of your gourd, you have no frigging clue.

leave the sound to qualified people and just hand out your damn flyers!!:icon_rofl:

KBig
12-18-2007, 02:03 PM
you can keep your shit, that is if you think i'm gonna play on your wack ass system that you think is "more than enough" even when the place get rammed and the speakers, amps and my ears are clipping you're so drunk out of your gourd, you have no frigging clue.

leave the sound to qualified people and just hand out your damn flyers!!:icon_rofl:


IM sorry did you get a "Leave the Bedroom to DJ pass" lol

:rofl5:

Pang
12-18-2007, 02:12 PM
Promoting: From a promoter's standpoint......If I have a party for years and you as a dj has never been, don't ask me if you can play. Especially when you live in the very place where I have the party.

Peace Studio,

Your right about that one. . . Truly . . . But I also feel that from a DJ's standpoint, if your gonna frequent a party, go to one that your gonna benefit from. . .an I mean this shit. Put effort towards that and see where it takes you.

djmarbll
12-18-2007, 02:31 PM
#12- if you Can Not Dance- I AINT BOOKING U.
a dj that cannot dance worries me !!

Interesting point, but most dj's I know don't or can't dance. I've seen J326, Rahaan, Emanuel, Hugo, and Sadar dance at many parties when they weren't spinning.

djmarbll
12-18-2007, 02:38 PM
If I may add, Stay humble and treat the people at the party like guest. Answer the questions about a song you're playing, You never know, The person asking you may be the next person hiring you. - JMO

So true. Partygoers have better memories than we think. If they hear songs they like, but aren't familiar with, and you tell them what you're playing, they'll keep coming back.

TAD
12-18-2007, 02:40 PM
IM sorry did you get a "Leave the Bedroom to DJ pass" lol

:rofl5:

:lol: i hear those are prized items.

djmarbll
12-18-2007, 02:44 PM
Great post. You'd be surprised how many peeps don't do these things.



This one hit home most of all for me. Be likeable and throw your own shit. "I ain't kissing no ones @ss or carrying nobody's d@mn records to get on."


Promoting: From a promoter's standpoint......If I have a party for years and you as a dj has never been, don't ask me if you can play. Especially when you live in the very place where I have the party.

Good points. Throwing your own events as a dj is probably the most important way of getting your name out. That's probably how most people had even heard of me, at least in Chicago.

Cordell
12-18-2007, 02:49 PM
actually How to Get Put On should really come from those of US who do the booking.. no offense 6.


lets title this Why I dont book your azz....

#1- If Ive never heard you LIVE @ an event I AINT BOOKING U.

#2 -If you don't move me.... I.e If you can't play... I AINT BOOKING U.

#3- If you don't draw a crowd.... I AINT BOOKING U.

#4- IF you are disgruntle and lazy, and only complain... I AINT BOOKING U.

#5- If you don't understand that you are a HIRED GUN and you aint running shyt... and this is MY SHYT ...I AINT BOOKING U.

#6- if you Can Not Play for a diverse crowd- I AINT BOOKING U.

#7- if you call yourself a soulful DJ ... I AINT BOOKING U.

#8- If you have a reputation of BREAKING contracts, not being professional, and having a history of DIVA moments ....I AINT BOOKING U.

#9 - IF I HAVE MORE MUSIC THAN U...I AINT BOOKING U.

#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


hows that?

Damn Kellie that's why I haven't heard from you!

KBig
12-18-2007, 02:51 PM
Damn Kellie that's why I haven't heard from you!


*gasp* U know bedder Big Daddy!! lol


Cordell...I need your digits again .... new phone, no # for you .

Holla at your fav pair of lips... *tee hee*

Cordell
12-18-2007, 02:51 PM
....NO ONE wants to work with jerks.

Period.
Speakin of..
I heard that same thing happen in Detroit again!

Cordell
12-18-2007, 02:52 PM
*gasp* U know bedder Big Daddy!! lol


Cordell...I need your digits again .... new phone, no # for you .

Holla at your fav pair of lips... *tee hee*

Ahh, you remember that from a FEW years ago!

KBig
12-18-2007, 02:55 PM
Ahh, you remember that from a FEW years ago!


how could I forget..... *muah*:grinyes:

Jamie 3:26
12-18-2007, 02:56 PM
Speakin of..
I heard that same thing happen in Detroit again!

That's messed up...

S&S
12-18-2007, 02:58 PM
too many cats have over inflated egos and can still only pull the same ol' 65ppl at a party that "they" are giving (in a space designed for 500). An ego "will" keep u fm getting booked. Do ur own parties but have a good business plan in place to ensure the party is PACKED with the type of people you want there.

DJ RON C
12-18-2007, 03:21 PM
...too bad I have never paid attention to 6, 8 and 10. I probably would've been at Frankie level by now...lol

däp
12-18-2007, 03:26 PM
funny. where are the "usual" whiners?

Chris Wood
12-18-2007, 03:27 PM
how could I forget..... *muah*:grinyes:

i can dance but I can't Dj - does that get me a set?? lol! http://deephousepage.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

KBig
12-18-2007, 03:31 PM
i can dance but I can't Dj - does that get me a set?? lol! http://deephousepage.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif


funny... just had a wonderful convo ABOUT you last nite.

tee hee.

U coming on the 29th? we can talk boo.

KBig
12-18-2007, 03:32 PM
That's messed up...


nawwwww, u serious?


the sight of G packing up his cdj's was PRICELESS

Chris Wood
12-18-2007, 03:35 PM
funny... just had a wonderful convo ABOUT you last nite.

tee hee.

U coming on the 29th? we can talk boo.

well its a little far to drive but i can try...






...damn no its my housemate's birthday party in Surrey... sorry!

are u sure u were talking about me??

KBig
12-18-2007, 03:40 PM
well its a little far to drive but i can try...






...damn no its my housemate's birthday party in Surrey... sorry!

are u sure u were talking about me??


yep ..... in the most positive way.

driving from VA is a haul but thanks for the consideration. Email me your flyers.

Pang
12-18-2007, 03:41 PM
yep ..... in the most positive way.

driving from VA is a haul but thanks for the consideration. Email me your flyers.

Umm. . . kels. . . Chris live NOWHERE NEAR VA . . . .

Chris Wood
12-18-2007, 03:43 PM
Umm. . . kels. . . Chris live NOWHERE NEAR VA . . . .


hahahahaha think theres more than one of me!

KBig
12-18-2007, 03:46 PM
Umm. . . kels. . . Chris live NOWHERE NEAR VA . . . .


CLASSIC Only Me!!

phuccit


who u izz ?


BWAHAAAAAA ONly me...... :rofl::rofl: PHucc Yall

Walter Stallworth
12-18-2007, 04:14 PM
Was someone whining to the point where we had to revisit this?

Armento
12-18-2007, 04:17 PM
Kels was ready to invite dude to her mansion of love with a ride in her pink cadillac.. but she didn't know who dude was hahahahhaaa:respent:

SMOOTH87
12-18-2007, 05:52 PM
Good post..

Rule #1 this is a bussiness..

If you are booked to play bring some people out. It's is easier for me to bring someone back if management can clearly see you brought someone out besides the regulars.

Be on time. If you take things seriously, people will take you seriously..

My 2 cents..

DaveR
12-18-2007, 06:09 PM
I actually didn't write this.Just studied it...

If I'm not mistaken,Dave R posted this sometime ago.

There are some folks who take note of the wisdom dropped here...
Your are not mistaken :respent:

I just read it again ... :rofl:

miss al boogie
12-18-2007, 06:23 PM
#10- IF you are over 35 and decided to become a DJ recently, I AINT BOOKING U.


ooh shit. i know a few of those!

Mz. Nicky
12-18-2007, 09:02 PM
my new bible...

I was just saying the same thing... "thank you for the wisdom....this is now going into my new Dj/Promoter Bible"

Jamie even though you didn't write this..thanks for posting it...:respent:

mr ali
12-18-2007, 09:20 PM
you gotta be kidding right...k-big,lol!

DaveR
12-18-2007, 09:29 PM
Here's the original, from Clubplanet back in June 2006

10 Tips for DJs - Getting Out of the Bedroom and Into the Club (http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=34;t=011966)

http://www.clubplanet.com/Articles/1412/10-Tips-for-DJs-Out-of-the-Bedroom-Into-the-Club

DR

emuzik
12-18-2007, 09:33 PM
Speakin of..
I heard that same thing happen in Detroit again!

ah ha ha ha for real doe .

NakedAge
12-18-2007, 09:34 PM
nothing beats experience

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12-18-2007, 09:35 PM
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silverbull
12-18-2007, 09:38 PM
Awesome read.

dj c-los
12-18-2007, 10:23 PM
funny. where are the "usual" whiners?

we're in tears cryin....ugh...i mean they're in tears crying.

DJ Celeste Alexander
12-18-2007, 11:22 PM
thanks for the post 6-4-12,and Dave R. Good information!

Chris Burns
12-18-2007, 11:45 PM
CLASSIC Only Me!!

phuccit


who u izz ?


BWAHAAAAAA ONly me...... :rofl::rofl: PHucc Yall


AHAHAHAHHA I think you thought Chris Wood was CHRIS BURNS.

BTW, I am coming on the 29th for sure. Wouldn't miss Jovonn for anything. We gotta talk regardless.

Chris Burns
12-18-2007, 11:52 PM
I remember reading Dave's guide a while back. This stuff is spot on. If I may add a few things from my (inexperienced) self.

Get in touch with all the media you can, particularly when you start throwing your own evnets. The game has changed and its not just about the traditional "big" outlets anymore (print/tv/radio). In DC for example, the local culture/nightlife blogs actually set the trends that get picked up by the print media. These blogs usually do these things out of love and are always looking for mixes/help/etc. These people can be your biggest supporters. In many cases they can put your events on blasts to THOUSANDS and will hype you if your decent and a positive person. Also, many outlets will typically list your events in their guides for free. IT NEVER HURTS TO ASK if you can list an event.

I also always also try to have a back pocket full of flyers whenever i go out just incase i strike up a convo with someone I don't know. The flyer acts more as a personal invitiaton than just a throwaway promotion tool in these instances. It also really helps to pick up girls :)

Chuck P
12-19-2007, 02:21 AM
This was a very good read, very imformative, I believe I do some of these things, but got some insight on some stuff I hadn't thought about, nice read indeed.......information is truly power.....

S&S
12-19-2007, 04:10 AM
This was a very good read, very imformative, I believe I do some of these things, but got some insight on some stuff I hadn't thought about, nice read indeed.......information is truly power.....

thats what DHP is supposed to be all about.. Music & Knowledge:thumbsup:

KBig
12-19-2007, 11:13 AM
AHAHAHAHHA I think you thought Chris Wood was CHRIS BURNS.

BTW, I am coming on the 29th for sure. Wouldn't miss Jovonn for anything. We gotta talk regardless.


Okay the 2 jobs, studying, kid, and party planning is alll getting to me.


Such a crackhead I am :rofl5: That shyt is FUNNY!

Classic Kels! :biglaugha:

Chris make sure you bring your flyers to circulate we are expecting a really nice crowd... nice as in shyt is gonna be JAMMMMED pack. :grinyes:

One of yall Chris Mofo's Holla LOL .

Chris Wood
12-19-2007, 12:01 PM
holla...

lol i'll be over next year...

LEONARD REMIX RROY
12-19-2007, 01:25 PM
all of the above, plus:
#11 - If you can't play better than me....I AIN'T BOOKING YOU....and this is the truth for me...

...and I so agree with #5...I am a controlling bitch when it's my event, believe in dictatorship when it comes to doing a party... I don't need your input and will not ask for it...I will not tell you how to play, because I already know what you can do...THAT'S WHY I BOOKED YOU!!!

#12 - If you have a Stank Ass / think you the stuff (DJ name will not get mentioned to avoid another DHP spat) I Ain't Booking You.

#13 - If the music you own is so rare that only you and 19 other people have copies - I EXTRA Ain't booking you.

#14 - If you are known to play music that is said to be Deep & Educational....you gets no gig.

S&S
12-19-2007, 05:10 PM
#12 -
#14 - If you are known to play music that is said to be Deep & Educational....you gets no gig.

Educational lol

SMOOTH87
12-19-2007, 05:37 PM
#12 - If you have a Stank Ass / think you the stuff (DJ name will not get mentioned to avoid another DHP spat) I Ain't Booking You.

#13 - If the music you own is so rare that only you and 19 other people have copies - I EXTRA Ain't booking you.

#14 - If you are known to play music that is said to be Deep & Educational....you gets no gig.

:rofl5: