The BACKWARDS U.S. flag...W.T.F!!!

[alvin]

http://www.fixourflag.com/

This hasn't been talked about in the mainstream but is quite perplexing. U.S. military uniforms have a backwards flag patch on the right arm and they are telling the public that it is "reversed" to simulate a "flag flying in the wind" with the body being the flagpole...but this doesn't make sense...

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html


To wear our country's flag properly, the field of stars is worn closest to your heart. Further, when worn on the sleeve of a military uniform, the flag should appear to be advancing and not retreating. Thus, if your patch is to be worn on your LEFT sleeve, use a left flag (normal). For patches worn on your RIGHT sleeve, use a "right" or "reversed field" flag.

Since the Flag Rules do not specifically address the positioning of the patch, a decision is left to the discretion of the organization prescribing the wear. Some elect to use the "left" flag on both sleeves. [Note: many states and cities have ordinances pertaining to the use of the flag; you may wish to contact the Attorney General of your state or the City Attorney's office regarding this matter.] If you are planning to wear only one patch, it is recommended that you wear a "left" flag on your left sleeve.
Military guidelines specify that in support of joint or multi-national operations (as in Iraq), the "right" flag is worn on the right sleeve (see picture), 1/4" below the shoulder seam or 1/8" below any required unit patches. (Class A uniform excepted.)




http://usmilitary.about.com/od/theorderlyroom/f/faqflag.htm


The full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward.

The rule dates back to the Army's early history, when both mounted cavalry and infantry units would designate a standard bearer, who carried the Colors into battle. As he charged, his forward momentum caused the flag to stream back. Since the Stars and Stripes are mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section stayed to the right, while the stripes flew to the left.If thats how the military is explaining it...how do they account for the men who stormed Iwo Jima with the flag???


backwards flag

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IWO JIMA...doesn't look "backwards" to me...

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the picture below says it all...

http://www.steve4u.com/flagcode.htm



§176. Respect for flag

No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.


§ 700.

Desecration of the flag of the United States; penalties
(a)(1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both



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[Armento]

http://i17.tinypic.com/6jyg748.jpg

[D J 1 3 8]

HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO STOP COPYING AND PASTING YOUR INANE CONSPIRACIES ON DHP?

Seriously, I would be willing to pay you to never do this again, ever.

[NakedAge]

"the field of stars should be worn closest to your heart"

God I love American patriotism.

[Steven Stewart]

Army Regulation 670-1 (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arreg2/blar670-1.htm), Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia, is the governing authority for the wear of Army uniforms. Paragraph 28-18 governs the wear of the United States Flag on Army Uniforms. The flag may only be worn on the utility and organizational uniforms (such as the camouflage BDU). The flag may only be worn during joint-duty and multinational deployments. When the servicemember returns to home station, the flag must be removed. (Guide Note: A message (http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/army/a/aruniformflag.htm) went out in February 2004 changing this restriction, and making the U.S. Flag a mandatory uniform componant for all soldiers, effective October 1, 2005).
Chapter 1, Title 4, United States Code (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/ch1.html), provides for the design of the U.S. flag and specifies the colors as red, white, and blue. Colors other than red, white, and blue violate the U.S. Code; therefore, subdued-colored flags are not authorized for wear. Joint commanders have to make the decision as to whether or not the wear of a full-color flag, for morale purposes, is more important than having all aspects of the uniform camouflaged.
When approved for wear, the full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is sewn 1/2 inch below the right shoulder seam of the temperate, hot-weather, enhanced hot-weather, and desert BDU; the BDU field jacket; and the cold-weather uniform. The flag is worn on the right shoulder, because, in the military, the "place of honor" is to a military member's right.
The full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward.
The rule dates back to the Army's early history, when both mounted cavalry and infantry units would designate a standard bearer, who carried the Colors into battle. As he charged, his forward momentum caused the flag to stream back. Since the Stars and Stripes are mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section stayed to the right, while the stripes flew to the left.

[BrazenMuse]

....ummm...because the direction of the streaming would be dictated by the wind flow? Ummm...so, if i was moving forward, it would stream behind me. If the wind in Iwo Jima was blowing from the left side of the picture, what other way would the wind blow? Really?

[JMJ]

HOW MUCH DO I HAVE TO PAY YOU TO STOP COPYING AND PASTING YOUR INANE CONSPIRACIES ON DHP?

Seriously, I would be willing to pay you to never do this again, ever.

I doubt that Alvin would accept worthless Federal Reserve Notes as payment......JMJ

[Steven Stewart]

The problem I think you have is the body as a flagpole. If you were running with a flag on your right side it would look the way the patch is displayed. Most of the pictures you posted are a sideways view.

[DJ Loka]

alvin it's simple, it's a secret signal to the queen, that our military is still in her majesty's service.

like, duh. :jpshakehead:

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

THE DHP MOST PARANOID AWARD GOES TO................

If I read one more post about America and it's evil I'm gonna scream! Let's talk about the conspiracy to only make 2 Wii's around Christmas when they know damn well everybody wants one. How about that for a conspiracy?

Ooooh I got another conspiracy, A DJ promote a party for about 3 months and the turn out is only 5 people, because the other 10 people are partying at a racist club. Damn House Nazis, they stop ev'ry friggin thing! http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif

[jojaujae3]

THE DHP MOST PARANOID AWARD GOES TO................

If I read one more post about America and it's evil I'm gonna scream! Let's talk about the conspiracy to only make 2 Wii's around Christmas when they know damn well everybody wants one. How about that for a conspiracy?

Ooooh I got another conspiracy, A DJ promote a party for about 3 months and the turn out is only 5 people, because the other 10 people are partying at a racist club. Damn House Nazis, they stop ev'ry friggin thing! http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif
:rofl5:

[JMJ]

THE DHP MOST PARANOID AWARD GOES TO................

If I read one more post about America and it's evil I'm gonna scream! Let's talk about the conspiracy to only make 2 Wii's around Christmas when they know damn well everybody wants one. How about that for a conspiracy?

Ooooh I got another conspiracy, A DJ promote a party for about 3 months and the turn out is only 5 people, because the other 10 people are partying at a racist club. Damn House Nazis, they stop ev'ry friggin thing! http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif

Somebody woke up with their wig on crooked this morning. That's like wearing a backwards U.S. Flag on your head.....JMJ :biglaugha:

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

Somebody woke up with their wig on crooked this morning. That's like wearing a backwards U.S. Flag on your head.....JMJ :biglaugha:

Told you about peeking in my windows. :biglaugha: I can't stand you :tongueout:

[JMJ]

Told you about peeking in my windows. :biglaugha: I can't stand you :tongueout:

Music to my ears.......JMJ :biggrin:

[MEP]

I doubt that Alvin would accept worthless Federal Reserve Notes as payment......JMJ
:icon_rofl:

[MEP]

Somebody woke up with their wig on crooked this morning. That's like wearing a backwards U.S. Flag on your head.....JMJ :biglaugha:

:rofl5:

[AK]

I'm not exactly sure, but I think it has something to do with taxes that the American military owes the Queen...

[MEP]

Actually, it's code for top secret locations in Iraq and Afghanistan so Santa can find the special forces units.

[jojaujae3]

Actually, it's code for top secret locations in Iraq and Afghanistan so Santa can find the special forces units.
:lol::rofl5:

[alvin]

The problem I think you have is the body as a flagpole. If you were running with a flag on your right side it would look the way the patch is displayed. Most of the pictures you posted are a sideways view.thanks for the clarification :)

[NakedAge]

Ever think maybe it was just a stupid mistake made by a factory or machine or something years ago, or even a designer and that it just stuck? and that for the last how ever or so many years they've been trying to find patriotic excuses to make it better so it doesnt look like they are retarded?

Do you think George Bush is sitting there going "Oh no they're onto us, if they get wind that we fucked up the uniform they'll see we are actually a bunch of retards playing politicians and that the tard hospital wants us back at 7, so lets just say its a flag in the wind or what ever and thats it"

[Steven Stewart]

Ever think maybe it was just a stupid mistake made by a factory or machine or something years ago, or even a designer and that it just stuck? and that for the last how ever or so many years they've been trying to find patriotic excuses to make it better so it doesnt look like they are retarded?

Do you think George Bush is sitting there going "Oh no they're onto us, if they get wind that we fucked up the uniform they'll see we are actually a bunch of retards playing politicians and that the tard hospital wants us back at 7, so lets just say its a flag in the wind or what ever and thats it"

NO....:stupid:

[alvin]

If I'm not mistaken Hitler took the original meaning & symbolism of the swastika and "reversed" it which in turn gave it a "negative" meaning.

Also, it is telling that we are dealing with a PRIVATE CORPORATION( ie. the UNITED STATES of AMERICA) and private CODE by mere fact that if the flag "represents" a "living breathing being"(i.e. the Republic...we the people) as stated...why did the military or President not consult with Congress(representatives of "we the people") when it was decided to add a "reverse" flag to the soldiers uniforms?

[alvin]

I doubt that Alvin would accept worthless Federal Reserve Notes as payment......JMJObviously, accepting these fraudulent fiat notes are a liability, the whole mortgage crisis is testimonial to that.

Isnt' OPEC discussing suspending trading in U.S. dollars???

[Monny JcIntosh]

If I'm not mistaken Hitler took the original meaning & symbolism of the swastika and "reversed" it which in turn gave it a "negative" meaning.

Also, it is telling that we are dealing with a PRIVATE CORPORATION( ie. the UNITED STATES of AMERICA) and private CODE by mere fact that if the flag "represents" a "living breathing being"(i.e. the Republic...we the people) as stated...why did the military or President not consult with Congress(representatives of "we the people") when it was decided to add a "reverse" flag to the soldiers uniforms?

Another important point: If you spell "ynoloc hsilgnE na llits si SU eht" backwards, you get "the US is still an English colony"!

[Edith A. Giles]

Meth is a helluva drug...:rofl:

[Steven Stewart]

Also, it is telling that we are dealing with a PRIVATE CORPORATION( ie. the UNITED STATES of AMERICA) and private CODE by mere fact that if the flag "represents" a "living breathing being"(i.e. the Republic...we the people) as stated...why did the military or President not consult with Congress(representatives of "we the people") when it was decided to add a "reverse" flag to the soldiers uniforms?


The United States Code is the codification by subject matter of the general and permanent laws of the United States. It is divided by broad subjects into 50 titles and published by the Office of the Law Revision Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives. Since 1926, the United States Code has been published every six years. In between editions, annual cumulative supplements are published in order to present the most current information. Documents are available only as ASCII text files.

[NakedAge]

I still think someone just made a simple mistake but America is too proud to admit it

[the crackhouse]

fact is that if you just reverse the US flag, it is still recognizable.
Not like some european flags that if you do rotate them or just fail to get the good color at the good place, you have another country symbol.
Example: Belgium and Deutschland.
http://www.jcelec.be/Portals/0/drapeau_Belgique.gif-belgium

http://www.septimanie-export.com/commun/images/atlas/drapeaux/drapeau_allemagne.gif-Deutschland

As far as I know, Charlotte is a french name, and a plane tail is no right arm:
http://www.geocities.com/srivathsajoshi/usflag01.jpg
That leads me to the conclusion that Osama Ben Zarkahoui did achieve his secret works for Prince Charles, after his think-tank-taxes have been discovered by the Illuminatis.

Don't shoot the messenger, you don't know anyhtiong and just like to keep your eyes closed about everything your government wants you to do. God saves the queen!

Idance

[BrazenMuse]

fact is that if you just reverse the US flag, it is still recognizable.
Not like some european flags that if you do rotate them or just fail to get the good color at the good place, you have another country symbol.
Example: Belgium and Deutschland.
http://www.jcelec.be/Portals/0/drapeau_Belgique.gif-belgium

http://www.septimanie-export.com/commun/images/atlas/drapeaux/drapeau_allemagne.gif-Deutschland

As far as I know, Charlotte is a french name, and a plane tail is no right arm:
http://www.geocities.com/srivathsajoshi/usflag01.jpg


Same principle though it's not an arm. If it were a real flag streaming in the wind, that's what it would look like...
But honestly...do people really observe the flag treatment laws overall? No. I see flags out all night, flags past their prime still being flown instead of properly burned, flags on all sorts of odd things...it's a non-issue really.

[Monny JcIntosh]

That leads me to the conclusion that Osama Ben Zarkahoui did achieve his secret works for Prince Charles, after his think-tank-taxes have been discovered by the Illuminatis.

Don't shoot the messenger, you don't know anyhtiong and just like to keep your eyes closed about everything your government wants you to do. God saves the queen!

Idance

Information is information.

[alvin]

But honestly...do people really observe the flag treatment laws overall? No. I see flags out all night, flags past their prime still being flown instead of properly burned, flags on all sorts of odd things...it's a non-issue really.

the display of flags is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT when dealing with military and naval affairs on an INTERNATIONAL level.

If they are saying that the 'reverse' display of the flag is proper...then what about the "obverse"(front) display of the flag?

On military planes you have the display of BOTH sides..the obverse and reverse. This is the proper display...not one side...

a dollar bill has a front(obverse) and a back(reverse) side, if you try to go to the store and spend a dollar with just an "obverse' side...you will be arrested for passing COUNTERFEIT notes...

Likewise, the singular display of an 'obverse' flag is COUNTERFEIT...

[alvin]

http://flagspot.net/flags/xf-fis.html

the reverse display of the flag is called the "sinister hoist" and it deals with the application of the law of Cinque Ports. The Lord Warden or Admiral of Cinque Ports is in charge of this position.

http://www.dover-kent.co.uk/history/cinque_ports.htm



The Portsmen had full rights to self-government allowing them the organisation of their own taxation and legal affairs. The Portsmen had their own courts, could judge and punish criminals, levy tolls and claim any wreckage found on the sea or on shore. Halliburton and the other companies pay NO TAXES in Iraq and I was listening to the radio a while ago and when accused of wrongdoing these companies alledge that LAW DOES NOT APPLY in these autonomous zones in Iraq.

U.S. soldiers are basically being used as MERCINARIES & PIRATES of the so-called nobility of England(and their agents in the U.S.)...collecting TAX-FREE prize and booty...


The present Lord Warden is former naval commander Admiral Lord Michael Boyce. His appointment was announced on 29 July 2004. This news ended months of speculation over who would take the ceremonial title and names previously mentioned included Prince Andrew, John Major, Nelson Mandela and Bill Clinton.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/3381773.stm


Councillor Trussler has said he wants the new Lord Warden to be another high profile figure, such as former US president Bill Clinton, or Nelson Mandela.

http://www.cinqueports.org/


From the 14th century, the position of Lord Warden was increasingly sought-after by members of the nobility. The royal princes who later became King Henry V and King Henry VIII both held the office. More recently the position has been bestowed in recognition of distinguished service to the nation and to the Commonwealth. Occupants have included William Pitt, the Duke of Wellington, Sir Winston Churchill and Sir Robert Menzies. The only woman to have held the office, from 1979 until her death in 2002, was Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother.

So if the United States is "independent" how is it possible for a former U.S. President to hold an BRITISH title????

So they wanted to bestow Bill Clinton with a recognition for his "distinguished service to the nation(England) and to the Commonwealth"???

And you never heard a peep about this in the U.S. news...

[Milo]

Army Regulation 670-1 (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arreg2/blar670-1.htm), Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia, is the governing authority for the wear of Army uniforms. Paragraph 28-18 governs the wear of the United States Flag on Army Uniforms. The flag may only be worn on the utility and organizational uniforms (such as the camouflage BDU). The flag may only be worn during joint-duty and multinational deployments. When the servicemember returns to home station, the flag must be removed. (Guide Note: A message (http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/army/a/aruniformflag.htm) went out in February 2004 changing this restriction, and making the U.S. Flag a mandatory uniform componant for all soldiers, effective October 1, 2005).
Chapter 1, Title 4, United States Code (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/4/ch1.html), provides for the design of the U.S. flag and specifies the colors as red, white, and blue. Colors other than red, white, and blue violate the U.S. Code; therefore, subdued-colored flags are not authorized for wear. Joint commanders have to make the decision as to whether or not the wear of a full-color flag, for morale purposes, is more important than having all aspects of the uniform camouflaged.
When approved for wear, the full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is sewn 1/2 inch below the right shoulder seam of the temperate, hot-weather, enhanced hot-weather, and desert BDU; the BDU field jacket; and the cold-weather uniform. The flag is worn on the right shoulder, because, in the military, the "place of honor" is to a military member's right.
The full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward.
The rule dates back to the Army's early history, when both mounted cavalry and infantry units would designate a standard bearer, who carried the Colors into battle. As he charged, his forward momentum caused the flag to stream back. Since the Stars and Stripes are mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section stayed to the right, while the stripes flew to the left.



Thank You :thumbsup: end of topic....

[Milo]

Meth is a helluva drug...:rofl:


Cocain is a helluva drug....:biggrin:

[alvin]

Those with 'ears to hear' and 'eyes to see' will understand.

-end of story-

[alvin]

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/

Article 1, Section 9 of the Constitution


No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/02/13/giuliani.knighthood/index.html


LONDON, England (CNN) -- Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has received an honorary knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II for his work following the September 11 terror attacks.

Giuliani received the award at Buckingham Palace in London in recognition of his work with the families of the estimated 2,800 people who died in New York.


While Britain and the United States have always prided hemselves on a "special relationship," Giuliani was not afforded all the pomp and circumstance that any full-blown British knight would expect.


Giuliani will also not be able to call himself "Sir Rudolph," however, as he is not a British citizen, but he can put the initials KBE (Knight of the British Empire) after his name

The U.S. government is run by distant relatives and agents of British nobility...

But the trick is in the language of the Constitution...the Federal government and the U.K. nobility are the SAME ENTITY...there is no such thing as 'foreign state'...so they aren't breaking any laws of the Constitution.

This is the "special relationship" that they keep talking about.

"No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States" because the United States has ALWAYS been subservient to the laws of the Crown.