Early returns from Iowa....

[Dolemite73]

Senator John Edwards : 36.37%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.56%
Senator Barack Obama : 28.02%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.97%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.09%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.57%
Uncommitted : 0.42%
Precincts Reporting: 64 of 1781

I will update as more results come in.

[DaveR]

...

I will update as more results come in.
APNews by Dolemite73

[Dolemite73]

118 of 1781 precints reporting:

Senator John Edwards : 36.15%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 31.60%
Senator Barack Obama : 28.40%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.72%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.66%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.27%
Uncommitted : 0.20%
Precincts Reporting: 118 of 1781

[Dolemite73]

APNews by Dolemite73

What can I say? I am a political junkie.....

As it stands right now, Hillary may have accomplished what she wanted to do. She does not care if Edwards wins....she can stomp him in New Hampshire. Plus Edwards does not have to funds to follow up a victory in Iowa.

If Obama wins, he gets a lot of momentum...bad news for Hillary. Very interesting so far.

[Dolemite73]

It is tightening up.....this is amazing....

Senator John Edwards : 33.71%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.25%
Senator Barack Obama : 30.53%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.93%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.25%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.18%
Uncommitted : 0.14%
Precincts Reporting: 160 of 1781

[Dolemite73]

Senator John Edwards : 34.24%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 32.12%
Senator Barack Obama : 30.28%
Governor Bill Richardson : 2.02%
Senator Joe Biden : 1.11%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.14%
Uncommitted : 0.10%
Precincts Reporting: 205 of 1781

about 12% of returns in. This thing is going to go to the wire....

[DaveR]

"This is like watching a DJ RAS NY Giants / Patriots thread"

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/images/powell480.jpg

[Dolemite73]

Shut up, Colin...this is important. Democracy in action, nigga.

SENATOR JOHN EDWARDS : 34.13%
SENATOR HILLARY CLINTON : 31.89%
SENATOR BARACK OBAMA : 31.01%
GOVERNOR BILL RICHARDSON : 1.94%
SENATOR JOE BIDEN : 0.87%
SENATOR CHRIS DODD : 0.10%
UNCOMMITTED : 0.07%
PRECINCTS REPORTING: 279 OF 1781

[DaveR]

Shut up ...
:lol:

[Huey P. Freeman]

According to MSNBC entrance polling shows Obama as the winner in Iowa.

[Huey P. Freeman]

Shut up, Colin...this is important. Democracy in action, nigga.
:rofl:

[Huey P. Freeman]

MSNBC called Huckabee as the Republican winner. Huckabee is psychotic. Were he to win the Presidency I'm moving to Canada.

[kaaos]

MSNBC called Huckabee as the Republican winner. Huckabee is psychotic. Were he to win the Presidency I'm moving to Canada.



http://www.moving2canada.com/img-Moving/Full-service-moving_Canada.jpg

[kaaos]

Everyone kept saying its a 2 horse race for clinton obma...Edwards looks like the winner in Iowa

[Huey P. Freeman]

Everyone kept saying its a 2 horse race for clinton obma...Edwards looks like the winner in IowaI don't know what you are watching but on MSNBC it's showing Obama in the lead with about a 3rd of precincts reporting. Once again. You are wrong. That must grow tiresome.

[kaaos]

I don't know what you are watching but on MSNBC it's showing O'Bama in the lead with about a 3rd of precincts reporting. Once again. You are wrong. That must grow tiresome.


had the volume down while watching the bulls game...obama is in the lead..although Edwards is doing really well

[S&S]

I don't know what you are watching but on MSNBC it's showing O'Bama in the lead with about a 3rd of precincts reporting. Once again. You are wrong. That must grow tiresome.

bwahahahahahahahahh

[Huey P. Freeman]

56% reporting. Obama 35%, Edwards 32%, Clinton 31%

[kaaos]

Entrance Poll (http://election.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/exitPoll.shtml?state=IA&race=P&jurisdiction=0&party=D)
1113 of 1781 Precincts Reporting
January 3, 2008
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OBAMA (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193625.shtml)

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EDWARDS (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193631.shtml)

</TD><TD class=c2008_values>31%</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>415</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>0</TD><TD class=c2008_values></TD></TR><TR><TD class="c2008_categorysmall dems" align=middle>http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/common/images/c2008/pd_clinton_image.gif
CLINTON (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193678.shtml)

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1113 of 1781 Precincts Reporting

if these numbers hold for edwards its a good showing...

Im no voting for him but counting him out was premature

[AK]

56% reporting. O'Bama 35%, Edwards 32%, Clinton 31%

We're coming! I'm with him at dinner right now. It is so emotional in this room I can't tell you...

[Huey P. Freeman]

We're coming! I'm with him at dinner right now. It is so emotional in this room I can't tell you...MSNBC JUST CALLED IT FOR OBAMA!!!!! One state down!

[Dolemite73]

Looks like Obama is going to take it....don't listen to the projections....we all know how those end up:

Senator Barack Obama : 35.09%
Senator John Edwards : 31.16%
Senator Hillary Clinton : 30.89%
Governor Bill Richardson : 1.78%
Senator Joe Biden : 0.94%
Uncommitted : 0.11%
Senator Chris Dodd : 0.03%
Precincts Reporting: 1247 of 1781

[kaaos]

Fox News Reporting Obama The Winner

[kaaos]

1264 of 1781 Precincts Reporting

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OBAMA (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193625.shtml)</TD><TD class=c2008_values>35%</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>556</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>0</TD><TD class=c2008_values>http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/campaign2008/images/star.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD class="c2008_categorysmall dems" align=middle>http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/common/images/c2008/pd_edwards_image.gif
EDWARDS (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193631.shtml)</TD><TD class=c2008_values>31%</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>494</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>0</TD><TD class=c2008_values> </TD></TR><TR><TD class="c2008_categorysmall dems" align=middle>http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/common/images/c2008/pd_clinton_image.gif
CLINTON (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/22/politics/main3193678.shtml)</TD><TD class=c2008_values>31%</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>489</TD><TD class=c2008_valuessmall>0</TD><TD class=c2008_values> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Huey P. Freeman]

The thing that floors me is Obama winning in a state that is 97% white. Maybe I have been too cynical.

[kaaos]

The thing that floors me is O'Bama winning in a state that is 97% white. Maybe I have been too cynical.


the republicans got the chunck of the votes in Iowa

[mjoseph]

:party5:

this calls for some guinness :alc:

[Huey P. Freeman]

the republicans got the chunck of the votes in IowaI think you have missed the point. I would never have thought that a black man could win a primary in a state that was 97% white. The repubs have nothing to do with that. He wasn't going against the repubs tonight. He was going against other, all white, Democrats.

[kaaos]

I think you have missed the point. I would never have thought that a black man could win a primary in a state that was 97% white. The repubs have nothing to do with that. He wasn't going against the repubs tonight. He was going against other, all white, Democrats.


maybe you were to cynical.

im voting for obama not cause he is black but because he is the best candidate for change out there

[Huey P. Freeman]

maybe you were to cynical.

im voting for obama not cause he is black but because he is the best candidate for change out thereSame here. But it is no less historic IMO. BTW Fox News has projected him the winner. They have it, with 87% of precincts reporting, Obama 37%, Edwards 30%, Clinton 30%. The gap is widening.

[ngeso]

I think you have missed the point. I would never have thought that a black man could win a primary in a state that was 97% white. The repubs have nothing to do with that. He wasn't going against the repubs tonight. He was going against other, all white, Democrats.



So what does that tell you about white voters?


...

[Moksha]

errr... huey... he's not irish...

[ngeso]

errr... huey... he's not irish...


:lol:

[Huey P. Freeman]

errr... huey... he's not irish...LOL didn't even realize I was doing that. Good catch.

[kaaos]

errr... huey... he's not irish...

http://www.barack-obama-now.com/pix-2007/obama-green-shirt.jpg

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00244/obama_244058d.jpg

[kaaos]

Clinton spent millions only to get around 700 votes...:jpshakehead:

[Huey P. Freeman]

Clinton spent millions only to get around 700 votes...:jpshakehead:Those are just delegate votes. She still got damn near 1/3 of 120-160k votes.

[Huey P. Freeman]

So what does that tell you about white voters?


...As a whole? Too early to say. Ask me after the general election. What it says about white Democrats is they are far more open minded than I thought.

[ngeso]

Q:

How important are these superdelegate votes?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/03/superdelegates/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


...

[Huey P. Freeman]

Q:

How important are these superdelegate votes?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/03/superdelegates/index.html?iref=mpstoryview


...The candidate with the most delegate votes wins the nomination for their party in the general election.

[liL Ray]

Clinton spent millions only to get around 700 votes...:jpshakehead:

if you think 700 votes is the point, then you really are missing the point and have no idea how the caucus works.

212K people turned out vs. 125K last time...

[DJ Loka]

cnn is damn near in orgasmic spasms of speculation and analysis:icon_rofl:


this thing has like 29 more of these to go doesnt it?



this is gonna be the longest year ever. it's like superbowl sunday everyday on cnn.:conf06:

[liL Ray]

cnn is damn near in orgasmic spasms of speculation and analysis:icon_rofl:


this thing has like 29 more of these to go doesnt it?



this is gonna be the longest year ever. it's like superbowl sunday everyday on cnn.:conf06:

I can't even believe I am saying this, but Fox coverage/speculation is better.

[DJ Loka]

I can't even believe I am saying this, but Fox coverage/speculation is better.


for real? i think i just involuntarily pooped my pants.

damn, well - let me switch over and check it out because cnn is sickening me with how they're covering all this like its a freaking football game. the punditry has made me lose any faith i had left in getting 'news' from them.

[liL Ray]

Fox just got to stop with the damn sound effects, but FOX coverage is better...

damn, I said it again...

[liL Ray]

wow, Edwards speech is making alot of sense...Obama better watch out.

...but then I remember, Edwards is a multi-millionaire and has been a politician for years.

lol

[drop]

Edwards speech is laying it out right now

[liL Ray]

Edwards speech is laying it out right now
he got me and my babycakes nodding our head and going "yep, yep"...

he certainly ain't pulling a Dean....hahahahaahaha

[DJ Loka]

he got me and my babycakes nodding our head and going "yep, yep"...

he certainly ain't pulling a Dean....hahahahaahaha


ahahahah i was just thinking that!


i was like please dont SQUEAK!

[liL Ray]

She is sooooo slippery...Ms. Hillary

her speech writers know the game, damnit! The made her align her self with the rest of the Democrats and say nothing about her disasterous showing...damn she is good...or at least her speech writers are.

but Hillary's speech is putting me to f'ing sleep. where is the damn remote!

[drop]

She is sooooo slippery...Ms. Hillary

her speech writers know the game, damnit! The made her align her self with the rest of the Democrats and say nothing about her disasterous showing...damn she is good...or at least her speech writers are.

but Hillary's speech is putting me to f'ing sleep. where is the damn remote!Orange Bowl is where its at

[DJ Loka]

She is sooooo slippery...Ms. Hillary

her speech writers know the game, damnit! The made her align her self with the rest of the Democrats and say nothing about her disasterous showing...damn she is good...or at least her speech writers are.

but Hillary's speech is putting me to f'ing sleep. where is the damn remote!


i think she's unfazed...and understands where they actually are in the process....this is a long long long haul....

[liL Ray]

Orange Bowl is where its atthanks

[Angeet654]

http://www.moving2canada.com/img-Moving/Full-service-moving_Canada.jpg

:rofl5: :rofl5:

[Angeet654]

We're coming! I'm with him at dinner right now. It is so emotional in this room I can't tell you...

Told you, we got this now onward soldiers to conquer New Hamp. :respent:

[DaveR]

Orange Bowl is where its at
:lol:


thanks
:rofl:

[Huey P. Freeman]

i think she's unfazed...and understands where they actually are in the process....this is a long long long haul....I think she has egg on her face and couldn't really show anything but what she did to continue to be in the game. Her people thought she was going to win Iowa.

[MEP]

i think i just involuntarily pooped my pants.


:rofl5:

[liL Ray]

what I love is that there is no talk, not even a "what about, for Guiliani...

[Angeet654]

I think she has egg on her face and couldn't really show anything but what she did to continue to be in the game. Her people thought she was going to win Iowa.

There you have it :acclaim:

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

Man, if Obama wins New Hampshire look out folks... :grinyes:

[Armento]

Barack Obama wins.. This is absolutely huge!!!

[DaveR]

what I love is that there is no talk...
about no matter who's President in 2008

- if you broke now, you gonna be broke in 2010 too
- yo ass still gonna get your ass kicked if you mouth off to a cop on the side of the road in 2011

5 hours of watching speculation by CNN and MSNBC and Fox, gettin' excited and arguin over projections and exit speeches ... shit, that's 5 chapters of a finance book

Get yo ass from in front of the TV :rofl: ... or at least watch the Orange Bowl :rofl5:

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

about no matter who's President in 2008

- if you broke now, you gonna be broke in 2010 too
- yo ass still gonna get your ass kicked if you mouth off to a cop on the side of the road in 2011

5 hours of watching speculation by CNN and MSNBC and Fox, gettin' excited and arguin over projections and exit speeches ... shit, that's 5 chapters of a finance book

Get yo ass from in front of the TV :rofl: ... or at least watch the Orange Bowl :rofl5:

:rofl5:

[drop]

Barack Obama wins.. This is absolutely huge!!!

i thought you were in the pen :-)

[liL Ray]

here he comes!!!!

and I love how there is no bunch of folks on the stage with him...

just him!!!

werk!!!

[Dolemite73]

Man, if Obama wins New Hampshire look out folks... :grinyes:

He would be tough to stop....no doubt about that. We will know Tuesday.

[liL Ray]

about no matter who's President in 2008

- if you broke now, you gonna be broke in 2010 too
- yo ass still gonna get your ass kicked if you mouth off to a cop on the side of the road in 2011

5 hours of watching speculation by CNN and MSNBC and Fox, gettin' excited and arguin over projections and exit speeches ... shit, that's 5 chapters of a finance book

Get yo ass from in front of the TV :rofl: ... or at least watch the Orange Bowl :rofl5:
why don't you take your pessimistic attitude and get the fuck outta here and go to the damn Orange Bowl topic...

[Dolemite73]

here he comes!!!!

and I love how there is no bunch of folks on the stage with him...

just him!!!

werk!!!


Damn, I wsih I could watch this....damn 14 hour time difference:cussing:

[TonyB]

Congratulations Barak!!!

[DaveR]

why don't you take your pessimistic attitude and get the fuck outta here and go to the damn Orange Bowl topic...
LOL ... I'm doing both ... getting the Caucus news here AND watching the game ...

Ize a multi-tasker :biggrin:

[Huey P. Freeman]

Damn, I wsih I could watch this....damn 14 hour time difference:cussing:msnbc.com has no streaming option?

[liL Ray]

LOL ... I'm doing both ... getting the Caucus news here AND watching the game ...

Ize a multi-tasker :biggrin:

so then, SHUT IT!

hahahahaha

[DaveR]

so then, SHUT IT!
OK Ediff :rofl:

[Huey P. Freeman]

so then, SHUT IT!

hahahahahaYou 2 are cracking me up.

[SuzanneT]

about no matter who's President in 2008

- if you broke now, you gonna be broke in 2010 too
- yo ass still gonna get your ass kicked if you mouth off to a cop on the side of the road in 2011

5 hours of watching speculation by CNN and MSNBC and Fox, gettin' excited and arguin over projections and exit speeches ... shit, that's 5 chapters of a finance book

Get yo ass from in front of the TV :rofl: ... or at least watch the Orange Bowl :rofl5:
Don't be mad because Dodd only got one vote. :icon_rofl::tongueout:

[liL Ray]

LOL ... I'm doing both ... getting the Caucus news here AND watching the game ...

Ize a multi-tasker :biggrin:

actually, you should be watching Caucus returns and Mad Money, if you really on your game....

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

Don't be mad because Dodd only got one vote. :icon_rofl::tongueout:

More like Dudd... :rofl:

[liL Ray]

Don't be mad because Dodd only got one vote. :icon_rofl::tongueout:and dropped out tonite...

[Huey P. Freeman]

Obama is a great speaker("He speaks so well").

[DaveR]

and dropped out tonite...
going back to CT to count his money ... saying "damn, I gotta stop spending on this election stuff; I won't be able to afford gas for my plane"

[liL Ray]

Obama is a great speaker("He speaks so well").finally!

thank God he got it together tonite...

[SuzanneT]

and dropped out tonite...
Wouldnt you? LOL 0.00000006917% of the vote :rofl5:

[liL Ray]

going back to CT to count his money ... saying "damn, I gotta stop spending on this election stuff; I won't be able to afford gas for my plane"
they said that mofo moved to Iowa...

[SuzanneT]

going back to CT to count his money ... saying "damn, I gotta stop spending on this election stuff; I won't be able to afford gas for my plane"
Oh shit I forgot he was from CT !!!:icon_rofl::icon_rofl:

[liL Ray]

damn, did Obama pulled out a 2008 version of the "I have a Dream" speech...

the remix!!

[DaveR]

actually, you should be watching Caucus returns and Mad Money, if you really on your game....
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[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

Obama is a great speaker("He speaks so well").

I tell you what, this mans sounds a lot like MLK... No bullshit...

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

damn, did Obama pulled out a 2008 version of the "I have a Dream" speech...

the remix!!

Dammit, you beat me to it...

[liL Ray]

I tell you what, this mans sounds a lot like MLK... No bullshit...

you know!

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

you know!

I know we drinking the kool-aid, but it sure taste good... :rofl:

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

Joe Biden is now out of the race...

[liL Ray]

I know we drinking the kool-aid, but it sure taste good... :rofl:


damn, he got me hype....I wanna go party now!!!

[DaveR]

damn, he got me hype....I wanna go party now!!!
:rofl5:

[drop]

time to update "can u feel it/i have a dream"

[liL Ray]

Joe Biden is now out of the race...

I liked Joe...

[Huey P. Freeman]

It will be interesting to see how the candidates who drop out align themselves.

[liL Ray]

:rofl5:
but imma take me old ass to bed....hahahahahaha

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

I liked Joe...

Me 2.............. ehhhhhhhhh OH WELL!!! :rofl5:

[david_mancuso]

:) Revolution!!!

(Obama is the ONLY non-hard-core liberal on the Dem side, and a FAR more palatable choice than ANY Republican).

-----

Just sharing a bit of interesting info to keep in mind -

Iowa

# In 1992 Clinton lost both Iowa and NH.

# In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.

# Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.

# In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.

# In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

New Hampshire

# In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.

# In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.

# In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.

[liL Ray]

Just sharing a bit of interesting info to keep in mind -

Iowa

# In 1992 Clinton lost both Iowa and NH.

# In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.

# Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.

# In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.

# In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

New Hampshire

# In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.

# In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.

# In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.
it's time for a change....

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

:) Revolution!!!

(Obama is the ONLY non-hard-core liberal on the Dem side, and a FAR more palatable choice than ANY Republican).

-----

Just sharing a bit of interesting info to keep in mind -

Iowa

# In 1992 Clinton lost both Iowa and NH.

# In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.

# Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.

# In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.

# In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

New Hampshire

# In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.

# In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.

# In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.

Very true David, but man this freakin' kool-aid is good.... :rofl:

[Huey P. Freeman]

I think the history of the Iowa primary as it relates to the general election might go out the door. Given the historic turnout and number of independents that are voting Democrat. 230,000 people turned out today. 89% growth over the last primary. In no small part due to the energy that Obama has injected into race.

[DaveR]

:) Revolution!!!

(Obama is the ONLY non-hard-core liberal on the Dem side, and a FAR more palatable choice than ANY Republican).

-----

Just sharing a bit of interesting info to keep in mind -

Iowa

# In 1992 Clinton lost both Iowa and NH.

# In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.

# Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.

# In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.

# In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

New Hampshire

# In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.

# In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.

# In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.
# In 1999, UConn beat Duke for the NCAA Hoops Championship

[Huey P. Freeman]

# In 1999, UConn beat Duke for the NCAA Hoops ChampionshipThe most important stat in this thread.

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

# In 1999, UConn beat Duke for the NCAA Hoops Championship

# in 2007 Boise State Beat Oklahoma in a BCS Bowl game

[Angeet654]

:) Revolution!!!

(Obama is the ONLY non-hard-core liberal on the Dem side, and a FAR more palatable choice than ANY Republican).

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Just sharing a bit of interesting info to keep in mind -

Iowa

# In 1992 Clinton lost both Iowa and NH.

# In 1988, George H.W. Bush lost the Iowa caucus to Bob Dole.

# Also in 1988, Michael Dukakis lost in Iowa to Richard Gephardt before getting the Democratic nomination.

# In 1980, Ronald Reagan lost in Iowa to George H.W. Bush.

# In 1972, George McGovern lost in both Iowa and New Hampshire to Edmund Muskie before becoming the Democratic nominee.

New Hampshire

# In 2000, George W. Bush lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Sen. John McCain.

# In 1996, Bob Dole lost the New Hampshire Republican primary to Pat Buchanan.

# In 1984, Walter Mondale lost the Democratic New Hampshire primary to Gary Hart.

Stats are ok but this is different. No matter how people try to skirt around the issue, it still comes down to race. A black man winning in a majority white state. I now believe anything is possible. Go back to any of those years mentioned and a black person stood no chance of making it on the board let lone getting a delegate to nominate them. Today is a new day in American history and the Iowans are to be commended for picking the best candidate and not making race a handicap. Iowans get a :thumbsup:

[DaveR]

The most important stat in this thread.
No doubt ... and it was at Tropicana Field in FLORIDA (and all that that implies)

[MEP]

No doubt ... and it was at Tropicana Field in FLORIDA (and all that that implies)
hanging chads? hanging on the rim? Coincidence or Conspiracy?

[Huey P. Freeman]

Stats are ok but this is different. No matter how people try to skirt around the issue, it still comes down to race. A black man winning in a majority white state. I now believe anything is possible. Go back to any of those years mentioned and a black person stood no chance of making it on the board let lone getting a delegate to nominate them. Today is a new day in American history and the Iowans are to be commended for picking the best candidate and not making race a handicap. Iowans get a :thumbsup:Quit highjacking. We are talking about UConn now.

[DaveR]

Stats are ok but this is different ...
Right, cause votes ain't stats ... this is gonna be won by posted opinions

[liL Ray]

No doubt ... and it was at Tropicana Field in FLORIDA (and all that that implies)

f'ing thread hijacker!!!!

[DaveR]

f'ing thread hijacker!!!!
it's Dolemite's thread ... he started it (like 3 years ago) :rofl5:

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i thought you were going to bed

[DaveR]

i thought you were going to bed
Ray's a thread insomniac ...

[liL Ray]

i thought you were going to bed
hahahahahaha....now I am..

[Moksha]

Congratulations Barak!!!

come on dhp... let's all work at getting the man's name right.

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

i thought you were going to bed

Maybe Ray meant...

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[DaveR]

Congratulations Barak!!!


come on dhp... let's all work at getting the man's name right.
http://www.ottawasun.com/Showbiz/Movies/2006/11/02/ottsun51borat200.jpg

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Maybe Ray meant...

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damn
that terrrible
i felt like i was watching a powerpoint presentation that one of my little cuz'ns put together

btw bill maher is on letterman

[The Crazy Life That Is Alarick T]

damn
that terrrible
i felt like i was watching a powerpoint presentation that one of my little cuz'ns put together

btw bill maher is on letterman

:rofl: That song can put you to bed... For real!!!