New Hamshire Primary returns

[Dolemite73]

As last time, I will update periodically:

Reporting 3%

Obama 3,783 39%

Clinton 3,193 33%

Edwards 1,634 17%

Richardson 419 4%

Kucinich 180 2%

Gravel 14 0%

Biden 11 0%

Dodd 10 0%

[Dolemite73]

Reporting 5%

Clinton 5,835 37%

Obama 5,723 36%

Edwards 2,702 17%

Richardson 709 4%

Kucinich 295 2%

Gravel 28 0%

Biden 22 0%

Dodd 13 0%

[Armento]

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10063/fg_13.gif

[Dolemite73]

8% of precincts reporting

Clinton 9,610 38%

Obama 9,001 36%

Edwards 4,208 17%

Richardson 1,092 4%

Kucinich 485 2%

Biden 45 0%

Gravel 40 0%

Dodd 18 0%

[Dolemite73]

9% of precincts reporting

Clinton 10,566 37%

Obama 10,288 37%

Edwards 4,650 17%

Richardson 1,222 4%

Kucinich 572 2%

Biden 51 0%

Gravel 42 0%

Dodd 22 0%

Things are tightening up.

[Perql8r]

WOW this is a close one

[Dolemite73]

10% of precints reporting
Clinton 12,282 38%

Obama 11,579 36%

Edwards 5,414 17%

Richardson 1,376 4%

Kucinich 619 2%

Biden 54 0%

Gravel 48 0%

Dodd 22 0%

[Dolemite73]

11% of precincts reporting
Clinton 13,011 39%

Obama 12,150 36%

Edwards 5,655 17%

Richardson 1,436 4%

Kucinich 639 2%

Biden 58 0%

Gravel 48 0%

Dodd 28 0%

[Dolemite73]

12% of precincts reporting

Clinton 14,028 38%

Obama 13,201 36%

Edwards 6,176 17%

Richardson 1,569 5%

Kucinich 756 2%

Biden 61 0%

Gravel 50 0%

Dodd 29 0%


The vote toals should be growing now. The bigger cities polls closed at 8pm EST.

[DaveR]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/images/powell480.jpg

[Perql8r]

Obama better hope those big cities have his back - Hillary starting to pull away.

[Dolemite73]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/images/powell480.jpg

We discussed this once, Colin....chill, nigga

[DaveR]

1 week later, mugs ain't that interested in politics on the board ... this is the only thread (must be the WMC effect)

[Armento]

13%

Clinton - 40%

Obama - 35%

crap


Why is there a checkmark next to McCain already with 12% reporting?

[Doug]

Why is there a checkmark next to McCain already with 12% reporting?

Romney is at 29%, McCain 37%.

[Dolemite73]

13%

Clinton - 40%

Obama - 35%

crap


Why is there a checkmark next to McCain already with 12% reporting?

Exit polls. Clinton and Obama are too close to call, but McCain can be called. Usually exit polls are reliable as hell (2000 and 2004 presidential election being the suspicious exceptions)

[Dolemite73]

15% of precincts reporting

Clinton 17,609 40%

Obama 15,858 36%

Edwards 7,413 17%

[Armento]

http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1102
This site seems to be updating faster. If you need it, D.

[Dolemite73]

http://www.npr.org/templates/topics/topic.php?topicId=1102
This site seems to be updating faster. If you need it, D.

Thanks Armen. Checking it out now

18% of the precints reporting

Clinton 19,977 40%

Obama 18,130 36%

Edwards 8,454 17%

It is going to be a long night at this rate.

[Dolemite73]

21% of precincts reporting

Clinton 23,309 40%

Obama 20,802 35%

Edwards 9,789 17%



If this holds up, this is going to be a long, hard fight for the nomination.

[Ish]

A couple of factors that might have been relevant in the numbers so far:

"Again, Obama dominated among young voters, as he did in Iowa, but in New Hampshire they made up a lower percentage of the total vote. Also, in Iowa, Obama got a slightly higher percentage of women's votes, but in New Hampshire, Clinton seemed to be beating him among women voters."
-NPR

[Dolemite73]

27% of precincts reporting

Clinton 27,057 40%

Obama 24,296 36%

Edwards 11,269 16%

[Armento]

A couple of factors that might have been relevant in the numbers so far:

"Again, Obama dominated among young voters, as he did in Iowa, but in New Hampshire they made up a lower percentage of the total vote. Also, in Iowa, Obama got a slightly higher percentage of women's votes, but in New Hampshire, Clinton seemed to be beating him among women voters."
-NPR
Pot is much better in NH... All that Vermont weed. Young vote never made it out. My professional analysis. :biglaugha:

[Dolemite73]

31% of precincts reporting

Clinton 30,804 40%

Obama 27,987 36%

Edwards 12,914 17%

[Perql8r]

OK - what am I missing? CNN is still talking as if Obama is on top - saying things like "if she comes in a close second, she will still see it as a moral victory - but if it is a landslide she will have to re-evaluate her staff/message etc". I heard nothing said about a victory for her despite the numbers.

[Armento]

31% of precincts reporting

Clinton 30,804 40%

Obama 27,987 36%

Edwards 12,914 17%

with 31% reporting.

39%

36%

A little closer. Just over 2500 vote differential.

[Dolemite73]

35% of precincts reporting

Clinton 34,670 40%

Obama 31,433 36%

Edwards 14,597 17%

[Dolemite73]

38% of precincts reporting

Clinton 35,945 39%

Obama 33,144 36%

Edwards 15,219 17%



The gap is closing.......

[Dolemite73]

41% of precincts reporting

Clinton 40,090 39%

Obama 37,766 37%

Edwards 17,145 17%


Getting closer........

[Moksha]

Clinton 49,941 39%
Obama 45,850 36
Edwards 21,299 17
Richardson 5,693 4
Kucinich 1,805 1
Gravel 167 0
48% reporting

[Rom]

So were the pollsters just way off or where did all this Hill support come from? Was the tear jerk 'that' effective? CNN is saying that Hill is pulling in the female vote whereas Obama pulled the female vote in Iowa. Whats yer take on this Dol?

[ebot9000]

Hey Dolemite, can you enlighten me on this? Does it matter if Obama beats Hilary by a few percentage points or not? Don't they both get essentially half the delegates from New Hampshire either way?

The primary process is a little confusing to me, but reading up on it, that's the way it seems. Seems like winning NH is important for both of their images, and in that way helpful for winning the rest of the country, but it isn't like the general election where they get all the delegates from that state. They get split by percentage.

Or so I thought.

[Doug]

Clinton 39%
Obama 37%

with 52% of precincts reporting

[Dolemite73]

So were the pollsters just way off or where did all this Hill support come from? Was the tear jerk 'that' effective? CNN is saying that Hill is pulling in the female vote whereas Obama pulled the female vote in Iowa. Whats yer take on this Dol?

I think the aftermath of the 'tear" moment is what did this. The media jumped on Hill with both feet. Don't think that women did not see this.

[Dolemite73]

Hey Dolemite, can you enlighten me on this? Does it matter if Obama beats Hilary by a few percentage points or not? Don't they both get essentially half the delegates from New Hampshire either way?

The primary process is a little confusing to me, but reading up on it, that's the way it seems. Seems like winning NH is important for both of their images, and in that way helpful for winning the rest of the country, but it isn't like the general election where they get all the delegates from that state. They get split by percentage.

Or so I thought.

It's all about the money. The money was being shut off of Hillary. She wins NH, the money spigot gets turned back on. No one wants to back a loser.

[JMJ]

So were the pollsters just way off or where did all this Hill support come from? Was the tear jerk 'that' effective? CNN is saying that Hill is pulling in the female vote whereas Obama pulled the female vote in Iowa. Whats yer take on this Dol?

MY take is that there's too many SHEEP being herded into the polling places.

Fuck that PHONY......JMJ :cussing:

[Dolemite73]

55% of precincts reporting

Clinton 55,909 39%

Obama 52,524 37%

Edwards 23,884 17%

[Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand]

One thing I know for sure, If Obama doesn't win the primary, you better believe that we will have another republican in the office. There are two things Rich men in America fear, poor Black men and White women in power. She may run but she won't be president.

[liL Ray]

I am watching CNN coverage and I think they are milking this night....

how you gonna tell me 2 hours after the polls close, there are absolutely no votes counted yet in these college tows??? get dah hell outta here...

let's face it, Hillary pull this shit off tonite...Bigups to her...AK said it the other day, don't count them Clintons out...

damn, that showing of emotion might go down as the biggest coup the Clintons ever pulled off.

go to bed and regroup...the parties over.

now, I hope I eat my words....lol.

[Dolemite73]

The gap is widening again. What a horserace!

62% of precincts reporting

Clinton 64,167 39%

Obama 59,702 36%

Edwards 27,319 17%

[Big Ken]

that showing of emotion might go down as the biggest coup the Clintons ever pulled off.

You're right about that Ray! I wish people could see through bullshit!

[ebot9000]

But as far as their votes for the primary, they're tied. Each will get about 11 delegates and the 5 superdelegates will vote for whoever they want regardless. Right, or do I have this wrong?

It's more about the press declaring winners and losers and how that will effect future voters, funding, etc.. but the press keeping "scorecards" and calling one or the other a winner or a loser is pretty unfair since it's actually a tie with regards to how many votes they will get.

[Dolemite73]

But as far as their votes for the primary, they're tied. Each will get about 11 delegates and the 5 superdelegates will vote for whoever they want regardless. Right, or do I have this wrong?

It's more about the press declaring winners and losers and how that will effect future voters, funding, etc.. but the press keeping "scorecards" and calling one or the other a winner or a loser is pretty unfair since it's actually a tie with regards to how many votes they will get.

You are sort of right. But like I said, it is about momentum.

[liL Ray]

isn't this the same fucking speech that Edwards gave last week??

what the fuck, he thinks folks ain't got TV is the nation?

this will hurt him....oh, big time!!

[DaveR]

This thread demonstrates why Bush was re-elected

Just look at the Dems ... Hillary's tears are some sort of scam?

1) They could have shown emotion to the majority
OR
2) They could show weakness to the majority

If it was staged, that was one hell of a risk - with no guarantee of it working out (given the 2 potential interpretations above)

So now with the fear she could win this eve, it was some sort of scam? ... damn, that's some flip floppin', excuse-making, nonsense by bystanders

Y'all would have been clownin Hilary tomorrow if she lost - talking another way about the tears

*** I think PWW said it best about Bush years ago - at least you know where his peeps and he stand ... he says "fuck you" and repeats it tomorrow under questioning :rofl:

[AK]

However this turns out, we've got a race on our hands. And that's probably a good thing for the country. Time for everyone to man-up or woman-up for their candidate!

[Rom]

This thread demonstrates why Bush was re-elected

Just look at the Dems ... Hillary's tears are some sort of scam?

1) They could have shown emotion to the majority
OR
2) They could show weakness to the majority

If it was staged, that was one hell of a risk - with no guarantee of it working out (given the 2 potential interpretations above)

So now with the fear she could win this eve, it was some sort of scam? ... damn, that's some flip floppin', excuse-making, nonsense by bystanders

Y'all would have been clownin Hilary tomorrow if she lost - talking another way about the tears

*** I think PWW said it best about Bush years ago - at least you know where his peeps and he stand ... he says "fuck you" and repeats it tomorrow under questioning :rofl:

Get the farg outa hear Dave, we've been calling the tear incident a scam since it happend and if yer too blind to see that it 'could' have been staged...who's the sheep?

[Dolemite73]

This thread demonstrates why Bush was re-elected

Just look at the Dems ... Hillary's tears are some sort of scam?

1) They could have shown emotion to the majority
OR
2) They could show weakness to the majority

If it was staged, that was one hell of a risk - with no guarantee of it working out (given the 2 potential interpretations above)

So now with the fear she could win this eve, it was some sort of scam? ... damn, that's some flip floppin', excuse-making, nonsense by bystanders

Y'all would have been clownin Hilary tomorrow if she lost - talking another way about the tears

*** I think PWW said it best about Bush years ago - at least you know where his peeps and he stand ... he says "fuck you" and repeats it tomorrow under questioning :rofl:

I am going to support whoever the nominee is. Be it Clinton or Obama or Edwards. All the rest of this, for me, is just political theater. And the Dems win regardless, because 280,000 folks voted for dems vice 220,000 voting for Repubs. This is the bigger story, IMO.

[liL Ray]

Get the farg outa hear Dave, we've been calling the tear incident a scam since it happend and if yer too blind to see that it 'could' have been staged...who's the sheep?

can't believe folks still take the time to answer DaveR...

[Drrtynewyork]

This thread demonstrates why Bush was re-elected

Just look at the Dems ... Hillary's tears are some sort of scam?

1) They could have shown emotion to the majority
OR
2) They could show weakness to the majority

If it was staged, that was one hell of a risk - with no guarantee of it working out (given the 2 potential interpretations above)

So now with the fear she could win this eve, it was some sort of scam? ... damn, that's some flip floppin', excuse-making, nonsense by bystanders

Y'all would have been clownin Hilary tomorrow if she lost - talking another way about the tears

*** I think PWW said it best about Bush years ago - at least you know where his peeps and he stand ... he says "fuck you" and repeats it tomorrow under questioning :rofl:


well said

[DaveR]

Get the farg outa hear Dave, we've been calling the tear incident a scam since it happend and if yer too blind to see that it 'could' have been staged...who's the sheep?
Here's a bombshell ... everything said in public by a candidate is staged :rofl5:

Now we can move on in agreement :rofl:

[dj-chefron]

MSNBC calls it for Clinton

[DaveR]

can't believe folks still take the time to answer DaveR...
yes, cause I got Tang in my water cooler

[liL Ray]

AP called the race for Hillary....

good job by her over the past few days...

[Dolemite73]

The AP just called it for Hillary.....

[miss al boogie]

Here's a bombshell ... everything said in public by a candidate is staged :rofl5:

Now we can move on in agreement :rofl:

it reminded me of Bill Clinton's "i feel your pain" tapping into the emotional side of the election. as a woman she probably feared it, as to not appear "weak." then she realized. i friggin think that question was staged.

[E-Phi]

A 2% lead with 78% of precincts reporting...

[Shalewa]

I am kind of bummed. I am not registered as a Democrat and I will be unable to vote in the NY state primary because by the time I decided it was too late to change my affiliation but I have definitely decided that of the "credible" candidates Obama is my candidate (Kucinich's politics are closer to mine). I appreciate where Obama is coming from philosophically- the concept that hope and I daresay love be harnessed as political tools is resonates with me. Add to that that I just can't get behind Hilary. The tear thing didn't sway me, it was her husband the attack dog who I find as untrustworthy and slimy as ever that brought this decision home for me. I am completely over American dynasty politics...

[Fletch]

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