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uzibee
11-13-2003, 06:20 AM
Hi,
I haven't started a thread in almost two years, but all this talk about the death of house is making me dizzy.

The problem is quite simple.

House music used to be the "Club" music of choice. Club remixes were strickly house remixes.If you wanted to listen to House music, you had to be in a club, or be on your way to a club (by listening to the numerous house music evening radio shows). Keep that in mind.

People used to go out strickly to dance. Clubbing=Dancing (thanks to the disco legacy). People even used to practice their dancesteps before going out. Not anymore.

Along the way, the clubs vocation changed (It all started with the commercial release of the "Chronic" by DR Dre...) It became a big money making industry. Club owners don't want to see you dance anymore, they want you at the bar drinking Courvoisier and smoking Montecristo cigares.Hip-Pop makes people drink and spend a whole lot money. It is the ultimate vehicule for capitalism. All the club remixes are now Hip-Pop or trance, therefore,House music is not club music anymore. We have to stop kidding ourselves.

The proper dancefloors are gone from most cities. House cannot survive without dancefloors. It is that simple.

There is hope. Dancing is making a come back in a big way. Dancing schools (Salsa, African, Urban, Capoiera, Tango and others) are full and they keep poping up everywhere. It is an epidemic, even worse than when Flashdance and footloose came out.

The only problem is that most of these people (almost 100%)have no idea that there is a form of dance music called house. Soulful music that you can actually dance to. It is incredible but true.

Most of these people are young profesionals with money.Beleive me when I say that this market is huge. I went to a Salsa night the other day, and there was easily 1000 people in there and every single one of them was dancing. The cover charge was 20$ and the DJ was playing some commercial Cd's.
There are at least 10 weekly Salsa nights in my hometown. People are still dancing. Dancing is not dead.

Solution:
We all got it wrong from the beggining. Instead of desperatly trying to reach the mainstream , we have to make dancing fashionable again and the mainstream will come to us. We have to create a demand for dancefloors again.

It might be too late for us older folks to go back and start over again, but it isn't too late to lay the foundation for the younger generation.

We have to invent a scene that doesn't exist yet.

House or dance music will never die as long as there will be a need to dance. We have to reach the next generation of "real" dancers...again. Stop looking in the clubs because they're just not there. Dancers in nowadays Clubs is a dying breed.

[ November 13, 2003, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: uzibee ]

the crackhouse
11-13-2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by uzibee:
It is an epidemic, even worse than when Flashdance and footloose came out.Yep.
Maybe we're in a "My left foot" era.

Martin Red
11-13-2003, 07:27 AM
uzibee, you make valid points

Off the top of my head ......a recession may be the only thing that has a big enough impact to make a change

The economy here has been pretty good, so everything here has become much of a muchness, the ass has caught up with the nose because the nose has not moved that far in recent times. We have stagnated and got very comfortable in our leather recliners, we have become boring or bored.


Just speaking aloud


P.S: - The fact that corporations own these chain clubs don't help because they have enough money to persuade the easily satisfied minds with "Urban" music ("the music that everything obvious is being termed as in the UK), saying that house was never about the commercial people here until the criminal Justice bill took the parties back in house into licensed mecca styled clubs and turned it into a Glamorous clubbing styled non-sense with Police corruption, just the way the Tory goverment probably wanted it, the Police are making money from it rather than a promoter of illegal parties.

[ November 13, 2003, 07:58 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

AD
11-13-2003, 07:36 AM
House sucks. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif

Martin Red
11-13-2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
House sucks. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif ..as much as one liners.
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/whistle.gif

AD
11-13-2003, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
House sucks. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif ..as much as one liners.
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/whistle.gif </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/gonnagetit.gif

Martin Red
11-13-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Martin Red:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
House sucks. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif ..as much as one liners.
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/whistle.gif </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/jerkit.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/gonnagetit.gif </font>[/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/box.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/splat.gif http://deephousepage.com/smilies/obscene.gif graemlins/slap.gif

[ November 13, 2003, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

GrantB
11-13-2003, 03:08 PM
Uzi,

Do you really think these people are completely unaware of house?

I went to a weekly social thing at a bar in my neighboorhood that is put on by the nearby capoeria school. There were some hot dancers there that were doing their thing to live drums and such, and then they broke all that down and the DJ got on and started playing more of the same. Then he played some jungle and the dancers were gettin loose to that. I also see the capoeria cats rocking it on the floor at the b boy nights.

My thought was that these folks are out in the clubs and are certainly aware of house, but would rather dance to something like jungle or breaks or hip hop with less of a four on the floor feel.

Tristan
11-13-2003, 04:58 PM
uzibee,

Well said. How are you making that 'new' connection with dancers? When you promote soulmeka do you contact people within the dance community?

I find those in the dance community loyal to the sounds they associate with. Take salsa for instance, yes there are many salsa nights around and they are doing well (always busy in TO at least), but does that mean that they will enjoy themselves at a house event? Most people would say no without even considering it first. They've already got preconceived notions about what a house event will be like.

Again, great post!