What software is used to design StatusKuo.com [Archive]

imported_Gman

06-25-2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gman:
Not that I like the way it looks mind you :rolleyes: Ugh, G-Man! You don't really browse that icky site, do you? [/QUOTE]No, it sucks.

JMNYC

06-25-2003, 02:07 PM

G, I'm not sure what they use over there, but I highly recommend Dreamweaver.

Cheers!

Drrtynewyork

06-25-2003, 02:08 PM

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~asbond/oh_snap.gif

imported_Gman

06-25-2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by JMNYC:
G, I'm not sure what they use over there, but I highly recommend Dreamweaver.

Cheers! Dreamweaver is hard to me. High learning curve. Unless it has gotten easier in the past year.

Thanks

JMNYC

06-25-2003, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Gman:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMNYC:
G, I'm not sure what they use over there, but I highly recommend Dreamweaver.

Cheers! Dreamweaver is hard to me. High learning curve. Unless it has gotten easier in the past year.

Thanks [/QUOTE]I'm on Dreamweaver MX and it's pretty user friendly. Also FrontPage is pretty user friendly (although sometimes there are compatibility issues between MAC/PC pages).

Bill Blake

06-25-2003, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by Gman:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMNYC:
G, I'm not sure what they use over there, but I highly recommend Dreamweaver.

Cheers! Dreamweaver is hard to me. High learning curve. Unless it has gotten easier in the past year.

Thanks [/QUOTE]Gman they use Dreamweaver.

'They' meaning JOel since Kai is a complete moron and doesnt know how to use it either.

rob gregory

06-25-2003, 02:48 PM

[/qb][/QUOTE]I'm on Dreamweaver MX and it's pretty user friendly. Also FrontPage is pretty user friendly (although sometimes there are compatibility issues between MAC/PC pages). [/QB][/QUOTE]

John,

I have Front Page 98. I've never used it. Is it ok for a beginner website builder, like myself?

06-25-2003, 02:52 PM

frontpage sucks ass, it writes the most inefficient code ever. learn dreamweaver if you have to use a wysiwyg. i'd say use edit plus and do everything by hand.

the crackhouse

06-25-2003, 03:13 PM

I thought statuskuo.com was made with pagemill?.. (never mind, programmers joke)

JMNYC

06-25-2003, 03:21 PM

FrontPage is fine for beginners... I would definitely recommend Dreamweaver for more smoothly-integrated content.

Pagemill .. would you believe that tired excuse for a program was the standard here before I got here? yuk. :(

daniel

06-25-2003, 03:24 PM

kai + crayons + teddy's subsidizing = sk

Bill Blake

06-25-2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
kai + crayons + teddy's subsidizing = sk Why do you think there are so many scripts?

Its the only thing he has figured out how to do.

Aside from banning Matt because he cries and me because Leslie is in love with me.

imported_Gman

06-25-2003, 03:33 PM

Looks like I have to take another look at Dreamweaver and just take the time to learn it.

Originally posted by JMNYC:
FrontPage is fine for beginners... I would definitely recommend Dreamweaver for more smoothly-integrated content.

Pagemill .. would you believe that tired excuse for a program was the standard here before I got here? yuk. :(

JMNYC

06-25-2003, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Gman:
Looks like I have to take another look at Dreamweaver and just take the time to learn it.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMNYC:
FrontPage is fine for beginners... I would definitely recommend Dreamweaver for more smoothly-integrated content.

Pagemill .. would you believe that tired excuse for a program was the standard here before I got here? yuk. :( [/QUOTE]the HELP functions and tutuorials are really easy to follow... let JL know if you have any questions icon_rofl.gif (hahaha I slay me). j/k - pm me if I can be of any assistance. There are also a lot of free scripts on the web that you can use in composing a site - code developers have made them public domain so you can use them to enhance your site with JAVA, PERL and other scripts without having to hard code them. Google FREE WEB SCRIPTS and you'll see what I mean.

cheers graemlins/beerchug.gif

Drrtynewyork

06-25-2003, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
kai + crayons + teddy's subsidizing = sk hahaha

Moksha

06-25-2003, 04:19 PM

Kai, please unban me. And Matt too. And John, you should come back to the Kuo.

jillbee

06-25-2003, 04:23 PM

adobe go live is good and fairly easy to use

06-25-2003, 04:45 PM

Despite what many may tell you, stick to straight HTML (Notepad, FrontPage, MS-Word, etc.). Ever wonder why Yahoo! is so successful with so much traffic? It's the simplicity and ease of use. Trust me, if DHP went all Flash, users would start dropping like panties on a ho. Always use the KISS method when designing a site.

KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid!

Not everyone uses high broadband. In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. Just my http://deephousepage.com/smilies/twocents.gif

imported_Gman

06-25-2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Albert D.:
Despite what many may tell you, stick to straight HTML (Notepad, FrontPage, MS-Word, etc.). Ever wonder why Yahoo! is so successful with so much traffic? It's the simplicity and ease of use. Trust me, if DHP went all Flash, users would start dropping like panties on a ho. Always use the KISS method when designing a site.

KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid!

Not everyone uses high broadband. In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. Just my http://deephousepage.com/smilies/twocents.gif Content is what keeps people coming back to a site. Yeah,I don't like a lots of flash.
K.I.S.S.

yunique

06-25-2003, 05:20 PM

Gman IMO Dreamweaver is a very good software to use. I know from the looks of my site you couldn't tell but dreamweaver does the simplest things that you have to do yourself in frontpage. For instance if I make a change to an image Dreamweaver will automatically save it to my hard drive . . . automatically. :D Learning the html is cool too but if you make a mistake you'd then have to find it. and talk about a needle in a haystack at times. Adobe Go Live have it but just haven't taken the time to learn it's functions. anyhoo, imo dreamweaver definitely would be my choice.

daniel

06-25-2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Albert D.:
In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. wrongers.

jillbee

06-25-2003, 05:26 PM

The thing about adobe golive is it is very simple. It writes the html code as you are creating the file, so if you need to edit anything or you are more comfortable in html you can. it's not a flash program, although if you want to imbed flash files or quicktime files, you can. It also supports real media, cgi scripts, and all adobe formats, (illustrator, photoshop...)

06-25-2003, 08:40 PM

Dreamweaver, as a pro web developer, is the best happy medium between learning how to code straight HTML and having nice, efficient code. It still writes a ton of crap that drove me away from using it, but it has some nice features. It isn't very difficult at all once you start using it, rather intuitive actually.

statuskuo

06-25-2003, 09:08 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

i was banned on the Kuo for using FrontPage.
i still get banned for it.

06-25-2003, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. wrongers. [/QUOTE]uhhhh...no. I used to work for an ISP so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

YUJI-SAN

06-25-2003, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Albert D.:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. wrongers. [/QUOTE]uhhhh...no. I used to work for an ISP so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research. graemlins/cool_shades.gif [/QUOTE]oh yeah?

06-25-2003, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. wrongers. [/QUOTE]uhhhh...no. I used to work for an ISP so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research. graemlins/cool_shades.gif [/QUOTE]oh yeah? [/QUOTE]yeah. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

GrantB

06-26-2003, 12:15 AM

In the US, just over 30% of home internet users have broadband as of March 2003. This does not take business users into account, but it also doesn't take the rest of the world into account.

Dreamweaver is good. Frontpage is bad. I am often called upon to fix crappy Frontpage sites, most of which are mangled so bad that Dreamweaver can't even lay them out. It's usually faster to start over from scratch.

The key to Dreamweaver success is don't let it write your code, or alter your links

1) know HTML (and JavaScript, CSS, PHP, ASP etc.)
2) lay out pages in page view
3) switch to code view and write code

DJ OPM

06-26-2003, 01:37 AM

Use either Dreamweaver MX or NetObjects Fusion. Both are excellent, but there is a learning curve with each for the more advanced stuff like XML and PHP.

daniel

06-26-2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Albert D.:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by YUJI BR0WN:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by daniel:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Albert D.:
In fact, most users are still using dial-up services. wrongers. [/QUOTE]uhhhh...no. I used to work for an ISP so I know what I'm talking about. Do your research. graemlins/cool_shades.gif [/QUOTE]oh yeah? [/QUOTE]yeah. graemlins/cool_shades.gif [/QUOTE]you're wrong. while a lot of people still have dial up at home, most are not using their computers at home to access the web. think about where you are when you post, at work, right? just like everyone else.

80% of the people that are "active" users (meaning they use the web at least a few times per week) are accessing the web either through their work connections, or have a cable/broadband at home.

you "used" to work in the industry, i've "been" and "still" work in it.

daniel

06-26-2003, 11:32 AM

edit: double post as i wasn't sure my message would get through the smog down in OC.

[ June 26, 2003, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: daniel ]

lesysteme

06-26-2003, 01:13 PM

only on the DHP would someone who "used to work in the industry" tell someone that "does work in the industry" how things are..

im constantly amazed at the totaly BS i read on this site sometimes.

ok:
yes, as a pro tool, dreamweaver is ok, but as a pro tool, like JL says, it does things that totally will drive you bonkers, in terms of things like css and other web elements. and dont try to implement dhtml with it, your hierarchical elements will take forever to load cause its adds so much extranious code to its dhrml markup features

do thinks by hand or use homesite for pro level HTML development im humble o...dreamweaver is good tho for pro and home use.

btw i like the new design, nice work guys.