New Music

[mdpm99]

Smoking It.....by automagic

remix by: Nicky Siano

produced by automagic

--automagic is DJ Will & Bryan Wright

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[Bill Blake]

Got it!

[C hristian]

So why the remix and not the original, Dave?

What's your rule with originals vs. Remixes?

[Prince HiFi]

I like Nicki Siano's productions/remixes. Is this on a US label or an import?

Prince HiFi

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by C hristian:
So why the remix and not the original, Dave?

What's your rule with originals vs. Remixes? Greetings C hristian:

The "rule" as you put it applies only to my own personal feelings and should not be confused with some else's opinion. For me such records like "roots" as an example, need not be remixed.

You asked me to pass on a tape that you sent me and I did. I can only bring the water to the horse.

d

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Prince HiFi:
I like Nicki Siano's productions/remixes. Is this on a US label or an import?

Prince HiFi Greetings Prince HiFi:

At this very moment I have the record at my friends place. However you could contact him directly at:

http://nickysiano.com/

It was also done at 45 rpm smile.gif ......and with your audiophile approach, I know you would appreciate it even more.

Have a great day.

d

[djyoavb]

it samples that reggae song "i love to smoke marijuana, it gives me a deep meditation", it apeard on Madlib's reggae mix cd.

[ December 06, 2003, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: djyoavb ]

[C hristian]

OK D. I'm just trying to see where lines are drawn in your mind, that's all. I understand it's personal, but I just wanted to know what "it" is, exactly.

Actually, I didn't ask you to pass a tape. I was only going to send you a tape, and I mentioned whom else I passed it to. You initiated the idea of passing it.

Just want to be clear about that, b/c some people can be very touchy about such things.

[Prince HiFi]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
It was also done at 45 rpm smile.gif ......and with your audiophile approach, I know you would appreciate it even more.

Have a great day.

d Hahaha. Not quite audiophile, but I did pick up a second Yamaha C-4 preamplifier (80s vintage, nice phono section, $112 - Ebay) to finally better serve my 1200s. Again, the difference hi-fi phono preamps make compared with what is in my Numark mixer is :eek: astounding. I am definitely chasing better sound, but on a limited budget.

Thanks for sharing the new music tip, they are always appreciated! Nicki Siano has a good sound, I thought his (now defunct) 12 West gig was pretty cool!

Prince HiFi

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Prince HiFi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
It was also done at 45 rpm smile.gif ......and with your audiophile approach, I know you would appreciate it even more.

Have a great day.

d Hahaha. Not quite audiophile, but I did pick up a second Yamaha C-4 preamplifier (80s vintage, nice phono section, $112 - Ebay) to finally better serve my 1200s. Again, the difference hi-fi phono preamps make compared with what is in my Numark mixer is :eek: astounding. I am definitely chasing better sound, but on a limited budget.

Thanks for sharing the new music tip, they are always appreciated! Nicki Siano has a good sound, I thought his (now defunct) 12 West gig was pretty cool!

Prince HiFi </font>[/QUOTE]You are on a very good musical path audio wise and I am very happy for you. I am a firm believer that the better the sound the better chance music will evolve as it can stagnate if not allowed to fully come out of the groove.

We use to use two sure pre amps ($35) for each ttable b-4 the "dj mixer" came into play so that we could blend or mix. It is amazing how the "geography" of basic fundamentals keep's coming around in full circle.

smile.gif

d

[mdpm99]

ps. I finally ended up with Koestu tone arms/shell/carthridge modified to 1100's tech.

d

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by C hristian:
OK D. I'm just trying to see where lines are drawn in your mind, that's all. I understand it's personal, but I just wanted to know what "it" is, exactly.

Actually, I didn't ask you to pass a tape. I was only going to send you a tape, and I mentioned whom else I passed it to. You initiated the idea of passing it.

Just want to be clear about that, b/c some people can be very touchy about such things. opps! Got it.....

smile.gif

d

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by djyoavb:
it samples that reggea song "i love to smoke marijuana, it gives me a deep meditation", it apeard on Madlib's reggea mix cd. Thought there was a familiarity about it ...couldn't 4 some reason pinpoint it ..."that something" I heard from another direction b-4.

Thanks 4 the info.

Happy Holidays,

d

[Cedric Woo]

Originally posted by Prince HiFi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
It was also done at 45 rpm smile.gif ......and with your audiophile approach, I know you would appreciate it even more.

Have a great day.

d Hahaha. Not quite audiophile, but I did pick up a second Yamaha C-4 preamplifier (80s vintage, nice phono section, $112 - Ebay) to finally better serve my 1200s. Again, the difference hi-fi phono preamps make compared with what is in my Numark mixer is :eek: astounding. I am definitely chasing better sound, but on a limited budget.

Thanks for sharing the new music tip, they are always appreciated! Nicki Siano has a good sound, I thought his (now defunct) 12 West gig was pretty cool!

Prince HiFi </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings to both of you!

I'm really interesting in following you guys in the quest of a better sound.

What I have now is only two 1210s, 1 mixer( Gemini PS-626i ) which "eats' a lot of the sound quality and 1 amp( Trio ).

I'm just wondering if adding a pre-amp like you did could improve the sound overall.

Or do I just have to drop the mixer ( which I'm not ready for...)?

I need to learn so much about sound settings!

C.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Cedric Woo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Prince HiFi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
It was also done at 45 rpm smile.gif ......and with your audiophile approach, I know you would appreciate it even more.

Have a great day.

d Hahaha. Not quite audiophile, but I did pick up a second Yamaha C-4 preamplifier (80s vintage, nice phono section, $112 - Ebay) to finally better serve my 1200s. Again, the difference hi-fi phono preamps make compared with what is in my Numark mixer is :eek: astounding. I am definitely chasing better sound, but on a limited budget.

Thanks for sharing the new music tip, they are always appreciated! Nicki Siano has a good sound, I thought his (now defunct) 12 West gig was pretty cool!

Prince HiFi </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings to both of you!

I'm really interesting in following you guys in the quest of a better sound.

What I have now is only two 1210s, 1 mixer( Gemini PS-626i ) which "eats' a lot of the sound quality and 1 amp( Trio ).

I'm just wondering if adding a pre-amp like you did could improve the sound overall.

Or do I just have to drop the mixer ( which I'm not ready for...)?

I need to learn so much about sound settings!

C. </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings:

I love it....a variety thread of sorts. smile.gif

If I am following Prince Hi Fi correctly he is "joining two matched pre-amps" interconnected with resistors which is basically the way I went at 99 Prince St. This allows for two entirely seperate phono sections and does not cost an arm and a leg.

Prince.....what say you?

d

[Cedric Woo]

Greetings:

I love it....a variety thread of sorts. smile.gif

If I am following Prince Hi Fi correctly he is "joining two matched pre-amps" interconnected with resistors which is basically the way I went at 99 Prince St. This allows for two entirely seperate phono sections and does not cost an arm and a leg.

Prince.....what say you?

d


So this would complete the circle as you said!

Can you still mix or blend as easily as with a mixer though?

Thanx

C.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Cedric Woo:
Greetings:

I love it....a variety thread of sorts. smile.gif

If I am following Prince Hi Fi correctly he is "joining two matched pre-amps" interconnected with resistors which is basically the way I went at 99 Prince St. This allows for two entirely seperate phono sections and does not cost an arm and a leg.

Prince.....what say you?

d


So this would complete the circle as you said!

Can you still mix or blend as easily as with a mixer though?

Thanx

C. It is a mixer ( coming from individual directions so to speak) - just a different path which is much better. To monitor one would come out the tape monitor for signal.

d

[Prince HiFi]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Greetings:

I love it....a variety thread of sorts. smile.gif

If I am following Prince Hi Fi correctly he is "joining two matched pre-amps" interconnected with resistors which is basically the way I went at 99 Prince St. This allows for two entirely seperate phono sections and does not cost an arm and a leg.

Prince.....what say you?

d Sorry for the delay, it got mad busy here at work.

Bingo! That would be the best way to set these up, "two matched preamps" passively summed (easy/cheap circuit) right before the amplifier. Basically the two hifi preamps would mix/blend through a passive summing circuit (as David said). What a console! Twin rotary controls, hi-fi sound and lots of configuration options. This is how I will likely set them in my home console, guaranteed good recording quality on mixtapes.

The other way is to simply use the two preamplifiers as the phono preamplifiers and then send the resulting line signals to line ins on the Numark DJ mixer, thereby providing crossfader control of the channels and a more traditional control interface but bypassing Numark's phono preamps. I will likely do this when I setup out.

The bottom line is that the phono preamps built into dj mixers are one of the worst obstacles to good dj system sound. The amazing thing is that quality hi-fi phono preamps can be had on the used market for the price of a common dj cartridge (~$100).

More later...

Prince HiFi

[ December 06, 2003, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: Prince HiFi ]

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Prince HiFi:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
Greetings:

I love it....a variety thread of sorts. smile.gif

If I am following Prince Hi Fi correctly he is "joining two matched pre-amps" interconnected with resistors which is basically the way I went at 99 Prince St. This allows for two entirely seperate phono sections and does not cost an arm and a leg.

Prince.....what say you?

d Sorry for the delay, it got mad busy here at work.

Bingo! That would be the best way to set these up, "two matched preamps" passively summed (easy/cheap circuit) right before the amplifier. Basically the two hifi preamps would mix/blend through a passive summing circuit (as David said). What a console! Twin rotary controls, hi-fi sound and lots of configuration options. This is how I will likely set them in my home console, guaranteed good recording quality on mixtapes.

The other way is to simply use the two preamplifiers as the phono preamplifiers and then send the resulting line signals to line ins on the Numark DJ mixer, thereby providing crossfader control of the channels and a more traditional control interface but bypassing Numark's phono preamps. I will likely do this when I setup out.

The bottom line is that the phono preamps built into dj mixers are one of the worst obstacles to good dj system sound. The amazing thing is that quality hi-fi phono preamps can be had on the used market for the price of a common dj cartridge (~$100).

More later...

Prince HiFi </font>[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time out to go through this for Cedric and others.

smile.gif

d

[Prince HiFi]

Originally posted by Cedric Woo:

Can you still mix or blend as easily as with a mixer though?

Thanx

C. Cedric:

David's 99 Prince St. type setup (summed twin preamps) would work basically like a two channel rotary control mixer. I highly recommend the Yamaha C-4 preamp as it is very flexible and sounds super clean and detailed (settings for cartridge matching in phono section, 2 preamp outs, 2 tape outs, separate headphone out volume). Perhaps others have found other excellent preamps. At one time FK was on about finding second-hand external phono preamps and improving dj sound (now he is on about finding second hand Yamaha EFX-990 effects units graemlins/grinyes.gif )

All this hi-fi stuff and learning some basic audio electronics and physics used to be the way audio was thought about in past decades. This is still a fruitful avenue that is open to every sound junkie. Otherwise we have to deal with the crap that Numark and the like are selling us.

GrantB is another guy on here who has experimented with home brewed gear/setups.

Prince HiFi

[Cedric Woo]

Thanx so much David and Prince Hi Fi for guiding me .

I valued your comments a lot and will probably start thinking about preamplifiers for Xmas...

I want a house( or a least a room...) where I breathe music!

C.

PS: Linval Thomson/I Love Marijuana has always been a reggae fave of mine.

By the way, David, I don't really know your tastes when it comes to jamaican music.Any insights? :

[Jolyon]

Is the sample from Pato Banton - I Do Not Sniff The Coke (I Only Smoke)

A personal favourite reggae track of mine smile.gif

[Cedric Woo]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
Is the sample from Pato Banton - I Do Not Sniff The Coke (I Only Smoke)

A personal favourite reggae track of mine smile.gif It's from Linval Thomson-I Love Marijuana...one for the dope heads!