Feb. 9 Primaries and Caucuses

[AK]

Obama will win the State of Washington going away.

With 35% reporting: Obama 67%, Clinton 32%

Results to come in Louisiana and Nebraska.

[dj-chefron]

CNN calls Neb. Obama:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[dj-chefron]

In Louisiana there are some shenanigans with the voting, details later.:jpshakehead::jpshakehead::jpshakehead:

[AK]

Washington called for Obama. Not even close. Two slaughters in Nebraska and Washington.

[dj-chefron]

Cant wait for the delegate count.

[Dj Pat]

Yeah, my eye's is on CNN rite now.
They said the same thing as you stated...."Not even close"!

*phm*

[Dolemite73]

Looks like Texas and Ohio will be her last stand. She may take Maine tomorrow, but that is about all I see her taking until Texas and Ohio. This thing is playing out exactly like I said it would last week.

And to top it off, the Repubs absolutely HATE McCain. I am liking this a lot.

[chldfknungrnd764]

Things are starting to point to a strong push forward with Obama picking up steam.

Look for Hillary to really go negative in the coming weeks.

[dj-chefron]

Looking at CNN coverage whats up with all the republican wingnuts commenting?

[Dj Pat]

Things are starting to point to a strong push forward with Obama picking up steam.

Look for Hillary to really go negative in the coming weeks.

Or shed some Tear's at the next press conference...

*phm*

[AK]

Exit polls in La. show Obama winning among males and females. Spread among females is even larger. We'll see what the actual vote brings.

[TAB.]

And to top it off, the Repubs absolutely HATE McCain. I am liking this a lot.


If McCain wins, I will be glued to Fox News, and Hate Radio, so I can hear them whine. But as the pundits have already speculated, a Hillary Nomination will make them get over, and get with, McCain, quickly.

[dj-chefron]

Obama wins in La. according to MSNBC

[Huey P. Freeman]

Clean sweep for Obama!

[mhd]

super saturday

[KBig]

WOW!


WE R WITH YALL !


This is awesome.

[dj-chefron]

Barack Obama is on right now on Msnbc for a speech

[mhd]

obama sounding real presidential right about now, olive branch to hilary, attacking mccain, its about to be on, btw, hilary is done, 31% 32% and 39%, can't break 40 its time to move on, she will lose in md, and dc, may be tighter in va, but she will lose there too

[Dolemite73]

obama sounding real presidential right about now, olive branch to hilary, attacking mccain, its about to be on, btw, hilary is done, 31% 32% and 39%, can't break 40 its time to move on, she will lose in md, and dc, may be tighter in va, but she will lose there too

She may win Maine tomorrow, but that will be the extent of her victories for quite a while.

[mhd]

She may win Maine tomorrow, but that will be the extent of her victories for quite a while.

what are the projections? i bet they change by tomorrow

[AK]

obama sounding real presidential right about now, olive branch to hilary, attacking mccain, its about to be on, btw, hilary is done, 31% 32% and 39%, can't break 40 its time to move on, she will lose in md, and dc, may be tighter in va, but she will lose there too

Interesting that he took this opportunity to give a stump speech. I missed HRC's, but I understand that she did not. Not sure what the etiquette is of the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, but he's obviously being very well received. I'm sure he's flush with his 3 wins tonight.

[Dolemite73]

what are the projections? i bet they change by tomorrow

From the sources I have seen, it is within the margin of error. Too close to call.

[AK]

She may win Maine tomorrow, but that will be the extent of her victories for quite a while.

Naa, I don't think she'll win Maine.

[mhd]

hopemonger!

[mhd]

Interesting that he took this opportunity to give a stump speech. I missed HRC's, but I understand that she did not. Not sure what the etiquette is of the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, but he's obviously being very well received. I'm sure he's flush with his 3 wins tonight.

he is running against mccain!

[Huey P. Freeman]

hopemonger!LOL!

[Shalewa]

hopemonger!
I want this on a t-shirt.

[KBig]

HRC made the statement that they felt certain states favored Obama .... hence the campaigning elsewhere?


U can't stop a movement....

[DeesKo]

Maybe I'm just really tired, but Obama's speech (cadence & tone wise) sounded like a mix of MLK Jr., Obama & Ras Baraka on that Basement Boys joint "American Poem".

That "Yes we can" phrase.... kills. Every time.

It's the next long-term quote from a President this country's going to have.



On a seperate note, Alan, my store is about 2 miles from TC Williams, straight down King Street towards the Potomac. I won't be able to make the rally, but do me a favor and tell Barack to feel free to stop by the store and do some hand-shaking and baby-kissing. I'll hook 'em with some free Propel or Gatorade.

817 King Street.


I'll let everbody know he's stopping by.


:)



hahahaahahaha


Congrats on the wins !

Peace

[mhd]

HRC made the statement that they felt certain states favored Obama .... hence the campaigning elsewhere?


U can't stop a movement....

hence we broke...

[KBig]

hence we broke...


BWHAAAA yanno?

Love the way you break shyt down, counselor ! lol lol

[AK]

Throw in the Virgin Islands for good measure. 4-0 tonight.

[Perql8r]

I wish that MSNBC and CNN would get on the same page...

MSNBC states that Obama has widened his slim delegate lead over Hillary...

CNN states that Obama has shrunk Hillary's lead more with tonight wins...

Is this a superdelegate issue? Is one source counting them and the other not?

[mhd]

I wish that MSNBC and CNN would get on the same page...

MSNBC states that Obama has widened his slim delegate lead over Hillary...

CNN states that Obama has shrunk Hillary's lead more with tonight wins...

Is this a superdelegate issue? Is one source counting them and the other not?

screw em, i get my numbers from alan king

[AK]

Pledged Delegates through tonight's contests:

Obama 908
Clinton 877

Hopefully the lead will be significantly extended on Tuesday. Counting on y'all in D.C./Md./Va.

[AK]

screw em, i get my numbers from alan king


Ha ha. Right on time.

And yes, the discrepancy is that one is counting superdelegates. And again, those people have not actually voted. They're counting those who have said whom they are supporting. And that can change at any time.

The pledged delegates reflects the will of the voters based on the primaries and caucuses that have been held.

[mhd]

Pledged Delegates through tonight's contests:

Obama 908
Clinton 877

Hopefully the lead will be significantly extended on Tuesday. Counting on y'all in D.C./Md./Va.

don't worry, its bananas out here, people i have been begging for years to get involved are blowing me up!

[AK]

don't worry, its bananas out here, people i have been begging for years to get involved are blowing me up!

Man, I'm thinking hard about popping in for that College Park rally.

[Perql8r]

Pledged Delegates through tonight's contests:

Obama 908
Clinton 877

Hopefully the lead will be significantly extended on Tuesday. Counting on y'all in D.C./Md./Va.

Thank you AK - that was driving me CRAZY! For the record, this is what CNN has:

Clinton - 1,100
Obama - 1,039

*Total delegates to date. Democratic totals include pledged delegates and superdelegates.

BTW - I plan on attending the Obama rally in Va Beach tomorrow. Can't WAIT!

[AK]

Thank you AK - that was driving me CRAZY! For the record, this is what CNN has:

Clinton - 1,100
Obama - 1,039

*Total delegates to date. Democratic totals include pledged delegates and superdelegates.

BTW - I plan on attending the Obama rally in Va Beach tomorrow. Can't WAIT!

Cool!

[Perql8r]

Just out of curiosity - doors open at 5:30 for the rally. What time would you say I should be there - around 2:30/3:00?

[AK]

Just out of curiosity - doors open at 5:30 for the rally. What time would you say I should be there - around 2:30/3:00?

Hard to say, but I think 3:30-4:00 you should be cool.

[KBig]

don't worry, its bananas out here, people i have been begging for years to get involved are blowing me up!


We Gotchu AK. My mom wrote a scathing email to Elijah who she know personally.... My Uncle Vernon said he hasnt been this excited since he met my aunt! lol


lil story AK ... My gmom who passed @ Christmas would go and vote with me every election ...it was "our thang" I always took her. She voted last election and said I cant stand Bushy... get him out now...

So my dad and I agreed that if Obama got the Nomination we would take an Obama O8 button and place it at her site... she was born 1912 and to think the day is coming that a BLACK MAN could represent the United States to the world as President is a day that many of OUR ELDERS would never see is pretty AMAZING.

Go OBIE!

We gotchu AK ....

[miss al boogie]

hence we broke...

yeah, i'm gonna donate a bit more to BO this week. watching the Eyes on The Prize episode with Cleveland's mayor Stokes right now. they remind me so much of each other.

[mhd]

yeah, i'm gonna donate a bit more to BO this week. watching the Eyes on The Prize episode with Cleveland's mayor Stokes right now. they remind me so much of each other.

much respect, carl stokes was a giant, first black mayor of a major city, and his brother louis stokes had a long and distinguished career in congress, guys like the stokes brothers paved the way for obama, as for your contribution, that is incredible too, no matter the amount its means a lot cause your contribution is doubled by another contribution: https://donate.barackobama.com/match

[KBig]

much respect, carl stokes was a giant, first black mayor of a major city, and his brother louis stokes had a long and distinguished career in congress, guys like the stokes brothers paved the way for obama, as for your contribution, that is incredible too, no matter the amount its means a lot cause your contribution is doubled by another contribution: https://donate.barackobama.com/match


went out a lil bit this weekend and the convo's seemto be the same wherever I went... OBAMA yada yada yada and I donated and plan to donate some more....

folks sending money to Obama like its a monthly bill! lol

Real proud of America right now.... all walks of life are getting on board its a beautiful thang.

[The Buddy Love Show]

GREAT WINS for the Obama campaign. Still reading thru polling results and these wins are great news for Obama and the party in general

[Armento]

Got the news while driving with the lady. Didn't even know primaries were going on. We had a nice buzz going and checked NPR for a minute. It was a very nice surprise on a Saturday night.

[mhd]

went out a lil bit this weekend and the convo's seemto be the same wherever I went... OBAMA yada yada yada and I donated and plan to donate some more....

folks sending money to Obama like its a monthly bill! lol

Real proud of America right now.... all walks of life are getting on board its a beautiful thang.

thats how you know whats really going on, just talkin to regular folks, people you know and strangers and getting a feel from the person on the street

[KBig]

thats how you know whats really going on, just talkin to regular folks, people you know and strangers and getting a feel from the person on the street


mhd... peeps are also really concerned about the SDelegates and this race fracturing America and the democratic party... its a real concern


This is when you find out who is really patriotic ... yanno?

Real Talk from the screets with the roving bovine! lol lol

[AK]

Updated pledged delegate totals:

Obama 918
Clinton 885

[AK]

baltimoresun.com

Sun endorsement: Betting on change, reform

February 10, 2008


George W. Bush's presidency can't end soon enough. Many Americans are fatigued by the state of the nation: a relentless war in Iraq, a bottomless deficit, the bruising mortgage crisis and the United States' flagging image abroad. So it is not hard to be energized by the prospects for a successor.

When Marylanders vote in Tuesday's presidential primary, both Democratic choices are promising a new political era for this century, and each has the intellect and the skills to deliver. Hillary Clinton, with her years in Washington and most recently in the Senate representing New York, brings rich experience. She is tough and keenly focused, pragmatic and driven. But Barack Obama, her Senate colleague from Illinois, offers a more compelling vision for the country that he would lead. He wants to forge a new reality in Washington where consensus replaces confrontation. And he has shown a remarkable ability to enroll a diverse array of Americans in his cause, convincing a new generation that it too has a stake in Washington.

That's why The Sun strongly endorses Mr. Obama as the Democratic nominee for president.

When Mr. Obama promises change, surprising numbers find the pledge credible. Despite his few years in the Senate, Mr. Obama exudes confidence and assesses the nation's problems with a fresh eye. When questioned by us on a number of tough issues, he showed a sophisticated understanding of them. His opposition to the war has been steady, and while committed to an early withdrawal from Iraq, Mr. Obama recognizes the challenges to that course.

Asked how the troubled No Child Left Behind education program might be salvaged, Mr. Obama said achievement testing should not be abandoned but rather complemented with other measures of progress and more aid for schools.

As the first African-American president, he would deliver on America's promise that there is no barrier to success.

Mr. Obama is a powerfully inspirational speaker, engaging listeners with energy and warmth as he describes his goals. That's the essence of leadership. His conversations feel more heartfelt than calculating, which reminds us of President John F. Kennedy.

Untested in foreign affairs, Mr. Obama is not afraid to disagree with popular opinion, favoring dialog with Cuba, Iran and other hostile powers, for instance. But he still has lots to tell America about how he would govern and whom he would rely on to help him lead. His promises to work across party lines may favor hope over reality, and the same might be said of his plans to reach out around the world.

Mrs. Clinton told us she would be "ready on Day One" to lead decisively, and indeed, her experience is one of her most appealing attributes. But her years of sparring with conservative adversaries have left her bruised and unpopular with many Americans. Mr. Obama is more likely to turn the page to a new era and deliver real change that is urgently needed to deal with the nation's economic, social and political problems.

In the Republican primary, John McCain is our choice. The veteran Arizona senator whose political obituary had been all but written has risen like a phoenix to presumptive nominee status. He has stood his ground on tough issues such as immigration reform, campaign finance and torture, and we praised him for it. He is principled and has been willing to compromise. But his recent overtures to his party's conservative wing could undercut his appeal to independents.

And Mr. McCain's passionate support of the Iraq war deeply concerns us. Despite the war's $10 billion monthly drain on the Treasury -- money urgently needed for domestic priorities -- he says he is willing to keep American troops in Iraq indefinitely.

[AK]

Poll: McCain And Obama Have Whopping Leads In Virginia
February 10th, 2008 by Joe Gandelman

A poll brings good news to Republican Senator John McCain and for Democratic Senator Barack Obama heading into Tuesday’s Virginia primary:

Barack Obama and John McCain may be cruising toward blowout wins in Virginia’s presidential primary Tuesday.

Among the Democrats, the poll conducted for the Richmond Times-Dispatch and other Virginia newspapers shows Obama leading Hillary Rodham Clinton 53 percent to 37 percent.

Among the Republicans McCain is up 55 percent to 27 percent, over his remaining major rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. With 5 percent, Texas Rep. Ron Paul is a distant third.

McCain has broad appeal within the GOP, even outpolling Huckabee among religious conservatives — a key voter bloc for Huckabee. McCain leads Huckabee 43 percent to 41 percent among self-described evangelical Christians. The survey shows Obama lifted by massive support among African-Americans. Further, his strength is concentrated in the urban-suburban crescent that spans from outside Washington to Virginia Beach and dominates the state’s politics.

The margin of error is 5 percentage points. The survey was conducted Thursday and Friday by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. of Washington.

It is based on phone interviews with 800 likely voters — 400 Democrats and 400 Republicans.

The Virginia contest, along with primaries in neighboring Maryland and Washington, could reshape the close and hard-fought Democratic campaign, while underscoring Arizona senator McCain’s status as the presumed Republican nominee.

By all accounts, even with Huckabee’s wins yesterday, McCain is way ahead. But the Democratic race remains deadlocked. Cnn notes:

Though CNN calculations estimate that Huckabee would need to snare hundreds more delegates to catch McCain, the Democrats are in a much tighter race.

With Obama’s wins in Louisiana, Nebraska, Washington and the Virgin Islands on Saturday, the Illinois senator took the pledged-delegate lead over rival Sen. Hillary Clinton. But if you count superdelegates, Clinton is still leading the Democratic race, according to CNN calculations.

Clinton has to start winning some big ones, since even with the superdelegates, if she’s losing constantly — and by large margins — some superdelegates could agree with the argument that they need to follow the sentiments expressed by their constituents in the primaries. As it stands now, Obama could win the primaries but lose the nomination due to being out politicked on superdelegates.

[mhd]

that mid-thirties for hrc in va is consistent with this weekend and that poll was done before saturday, that baltimore sun endorsement was right on point, hopefully the richmond times-dispatch will come through soon

[AK]

Poll: Obama, McCain Lead in Maryland
By The Associated Press – 11 minutes ago
THE RACE: The presidential race for Democrats, Republicans in Virginia.
___
THE NUMBERS - DEMOCRATS
Barack Obama, 53 percent
Hillary Rodham Clinton, 35 percent
___
THE NUMBERS - REPUBLICANS
John McCain, 54 percent
Mike Huckabee, 23 percent
Ron Paul, 7 percent
___
OF INTEREST:
Obama had mass appeal, drawing more support than Clinton among both men and women, as well as those living in and around Baltimore and outside of Washington, D.C. He dominated among blacks and she held a slight edge among whites. Clinton also drew more support from rural residents
McCain had broad appeal, even besting Huckabee among born-again Christians. The closest contest was among those who viewed themselves as very conservative, who preferred McCain by just 1 percentage point.
___
The Mason-Dixon Polling & Research Inc. poll was conducted Feb. 7-8 for MSNBC. It included interviews with 400 likely Democratic primary voters and 400 likely Republican primary voters. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 5 percentage points.

[AK]

Early good news from Maine...

Obama takes Yarmouth, Cape; huge crowd at Portland caucus

By Portland Press Herald Staff ReportFebruary 10, 2008 03:43 PM

Recent Updates
Obama takes Yarmouth, Cape; huge crowd at Portland caucus 3:43 PM

CAPE ELIZABETH — Sen. Barack Obama cruised to an easy win in the Cape Elizabeth caucus on Saturday, defeating Sen. Hillary Clinton by a vote of 72 to 28 percent.

More than 680 people turned out to participate in the caucus, more than double the number of those that showed up in 2004, according to Jamie Wagner, the chairman of the Cape Elizabeth Democratic Committee.

The large crowd delayed the start of the caucus by more than an hour.

Obama won by a final tally of 556 to 217. That total includes the 94 Democrats who voted absentee.

The Illinois senator also won in Yarmouth, defeating Clinton by a three-to-one margin. The final vote there was 484-139, Obama.

Democratic caucus-goers in Portland are waiting in long lines at Portland High School while a team of 30 registrars works to herd them into the event.

Organizers have assured the hundreds still waiting outside the high school that anyone in line by 4 p.m. will be admitted to the caucus. Voters waited in lines that stretched from the school’s entrance on Cumberland Avenue to Congress Street as recently as 2:30 p.m.

[chldfknungrnd764]

Never really heard of Superdelegates till recently.

The game always gives obstacles when traditional methods work in one's favor.

[KBig]

Edwards meeting with Clinton, Obama on endorsement (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/10/edwards-meeting-with-clinton-obama-on-endorsements/)
Posted: 03:38 PM ET
(CNN) — CNN has learned that former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards met with Hillary Clinton Thursday, and is meeting with Barack Obama Monday, to discuss a possible primary endorsement.
The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards’ home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse.
At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.
The former candidate is weighing a number of considerations before making his choice - including electability, and who will best promote his ideas.
There are policy considerations at play: there is a sense within the Edwards camp that Clinton's policies could be better for working class Americans. But Obama's anti-lobbyist proposals are more aligned with Edwards’ politics.
Two friends close to Elizabeth Edwards say she has been in support of Barack Obama, whose campaign has been touting a list of endorsements from former Edwards backers.

[AK]

Maine Caucuses - 44% Reporting

Obama 57%
Clinton 42%

[KBig]

Maine Caucuses - 44% Reporting

Obama 57%
Clinton 42%


they will split the delegates....


We need him to pull ahead so the Super Delegates wont matter.....

[AK]

they will split the delegates....


We need him to pull ahead so the Super Delegates wont matter.....

In 2 days, my dear.

[KBig]

In 2 days, my dear.


I know AK . My patience aint worf a good gat dayum right now!!! lol

by the way you all have done an amazing job advising Obie and carrying the collective plan.


my pride is at an all time high ....

BRAVO

[Dolemite73]

Not ony has he swept the primaries/caucuses this weekend, he has also just won a Grammy Award as well!


Obama or Clinton? Grammys go for Obama
Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:09pm EST
By Dean Goodman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Fresh from their feud on the campaign trail, Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama beat Bill Clinton in a contest almost as closely watched as the primaries being waged across the United States -- the music industry's Grammy Awards.

Obama on Sunday won the spoken word Grammy for the audiobook version of his blockbuster tome "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream." It marked his second statuette, following a win in 2006 for "Dreams From My Father," an audiobook for a memoir first published in 1995.

The Illinois senator, who is engaged in a neck-and-neck race with Clinton's wife, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, for the Democratic presidential nomination, was not present at the awards ceremony in downtown Los Angeles. He was scheduled to attend a rally in Virginia later in the day.

Bill Clinton was seeking his third Grammy with "Giving: How Each of Us Can Change the World," a call to public service. Another former Democratic president, Jimmy Carter, also was in the running, with "Sunday Morning in Plains: Bringing Peace to a Changing World," a collection of Bible lessons. Carter won the award last year.

Actor Alan Alda and poet Maya Angelou, a three-time winner, rounded out this year's nominees in the category.

Not to be outdone by Obama, Hillary Clinton won the spoken word prize in 1997, while she was still first lady, for her book "It Takes a Village."

No Republican politician has won the category since Everett Dirksen, an Illinois congressman and senator, in 1968.

Published in October 2006, Obama's latest book posited that Americans have more in common than their polarizing politics suggest. It included personal anecdotes about his struggles to balance public service and family life. His appearances to promote the bestseller generated a rock-star atmosphere, helping to stoke his presidential ambitions.

In recent weeks he has faced Bill Clinton's wrath. The former president dismissed Obama's contention of consistently opposing the Iraq war as a "fairy tale," and said that putting Obama in the White House would be a roll of the dice. Obama described Clinton's remarks as "troubling," and Clinton has toned down his campaign rhetoric.


http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN0852813420080210

[AK]

Obama wins Maine. Another good win. The Clintons campaigned hard here, with Hillary, Bill and Chelsea making appearances in Maine this week.

[chldfknungrnd764]

Do Superdelegates wear capes?:biglaugha:

[Tony Cano]

Great weekend for Obama!

any polls for "Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania"?

t

[mhd]

i guess the st. valentines day massacre came early this year
nebraska
washington
louisiana
virgin islands
maine

and counting...

[dj-chefron]

Here is the list of Super-delegates

Representatives
Bud Cramer (AL)
Harry Mitchell (AZ)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
Nancy Pelosi (CA)
Jerry McNerney (CA)
Pete Stark (CA)
Mike Honda (CA)
Sam Farr (CA)
Jim Costa (CA)
Lois Capps (CA)
Howard Berman (CA)
Henry Waxman (CA)
Bob Filner (CA)
Susan Davis (CA)
Mark Udall (CO)
John Salazar (CO)
Joe Courtney (CT)
Allen Boyd (FL)
Kathy Castor (FL)
Tim Mahoney (FL)
Ron Klein (FL)
Jim Marshall (GA)
John Barrow (GA)
Mazie Hirono (HI)
Dan Lipinski (IL)
Rahm Emanuel (IL)
Peter Visclosky (IN)
Joe Donnelly (IN)
Brad Ellsworth (IN)
Baron Hill (IN)
Rep. Bruce Braley (IA)
Nancy Boyda (KS)
Dennis Moore (KS)
Ben Chandler (KY)
William Jefferson (LA)
Charlie Melancon (LA)
Tom Allen (ME)
Rep. Michael Michaud (ME)
John Sarbanes (MD)
Steny Hoyer (MD)
Chris Van Hollen (MD)
John Olver (MA)
Niki Tsongas (MA)
John Tierney (MA)
Edward Markey (MA)
Sander Levin (MI)
Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (MI)
Rep. Bart Stupak (MI)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Gene Taylor (MS)
Ike Skelton (MO)
Rep. Rush Holt (NJ)
Rep. Bob Etheridge (NC)
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC)
Rep. Brad Miller (NC)
Rep. David Price (NC)
Rep. Heath Shuler (NC)
Rep. Mel Watt (NC)
Rep. Tom Udall (NM)
Charlie Wilson (OH)
Marcia Kaptur (OH)
Betty Sutton (OH)
Tim Ryan (OH)
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
David Wu (OR)
Peter DeFazio (OR)
Bob Brady (PA)
Jason Altmire (PA)
Chris Carney (PA)
John Murtha (PA)
Tim Holden (PA)
Rep. Mike Doyle (PA)
John Spratt (SC)
Rep. Jim Clyburn (SC)
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD)
Rep. Dan Boren (OK)
Lincoln Davis (TN)
Bart Gordon (TN)
John Tanner (TN)
Chet Edwards (TX)
Nick Lampson (TX)
Ciro Rodriguez (TX)
Lloyd Doggett (TX)
Rep. Charlie Gonzalez (TX)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Rick Larsen (WA)
Brian Baird (WA)
Jim McDermott (WA)
Alan Mollohan (WV)
Nick Rahall (WV)
Ron Kind (WI)
Steve Kagen (WI)
Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC)
Madeleine Bordallo (Guam)

Presidents & VPs
Jimmy Carter (GA)
Al Gore (TN)

Senators
Barbara Boxer (CA)
Ken Salazar (CO)
Chris Dodd (CT)
Joe Biden (DE)
Tom Carper (DE)
Daniel Akaka (HI)
Tom Harkin (IA)
Mary Landrieu (LA)
Ben Cardin (MD)
Carl Levin (MI)
Amy Klobuchar (MN)
Max Baucus (MT)
John Tester (MT)
Harry Reid (NV)
Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
Byron Dorgan (ND)
Sherrod Brown (OH)
Ron Wyden (OR)
Bob Casey (PA)
Jack Reed (RI)
Jim Webb (VA)
Robert Byrd (WV)
Jay Rockefeller (WV)
Herb Kohl (WI)
Russ Feingold (WI)
Sen. Jeff Bingaman (NM)
Fmr. Senator George Mitchell
Michael Brown (DC)
Paul Strauss (DC)


Governors
Bill Ritter (CO)
Steve Beshear (KY)
Brian Schweitzer (MT)
John Lynch (NH)
Bill Richardson (NM)
Mike Easley (NC)
Brad Henry (OK)
Phil Bredeson (TN)
Joe Manchin (WV)
Dave Freudenthal (WY)
Aníbal Acevedo Vilá (PR)
DNC Members
Howard Dean - Chairman (VT)
Lottie Shackleford (AR)
Linda Chavez -Thompson (TX)
Susan Turnbull (MD)
Mark Brewer (MI)
Andrew Tobias (FL)
Alice Germond (WV)
Philip D. Murphy (NJ)
Alabama
Joe Turnham - AL Chair
Nancy Worley - AL Vice Chair
Hon. Yvonne Kennedy
Hon. Randy Kelley
Alaska
Blake Johnson - AK Vice Chair
Hon. John Davies
Cindy Spanyers
Arizona
Don Bivens - AZ Chair
Donna Branch Gilby - AZ Vice Chair
California
Art Torres - CA Chair
Alexandra Gallardo-Rooker - Vice Chair
Steven Alari
Mary Ellen Early
Edward Espinoza
Inola Henry
Aleita Huguenin
Hon. Carole Midgen
Bob Mulholland
Christine Pelosi
Robert Rankin
Garry Shay
Keith Umemoto
Steve Ybarra
John Perez
Colorado
Pat Waak - CO Chair
Connecticut
Nancy DiNardo - CT Chair
John Olsen
Delaware
John Daniello - DE Chair
Harriet Smith-Windsor - DE Vice Chair
Florida
Karen Thurman - FL Chair
Rudolph Parker - FL Vice Chair
Terrie Brady
Mitchell Ceasar
Hon. Joyce Cusack
Diane Glasser
Chuck Mohlke
Janee Murphy
Jon Ausman (FL)
Georgia
Jane Kidd - GA Chair
Mary Long
Richard Ray
Hawaii
Beverly Withington - Chair
Joshua Wisch - Vice Chair
Richard Port
Dr. Marie Dolly Strazar
Idaho
Keith Roark - Chair
Jeanne Buell - Vice-chair
Illinois
Hon. Carol Ronen
Hon. Darlena Williams-Burnett
Indiana
Cordelia Lewis Burks - IN Vice Chair
Connie Thurman
Iowa
Scott Brennan - IA Chair
Richard Machacek
Kansas
Larry Gates - KS Chair
Helen Knetzer
Kentucky
Jennifer Moore - Chair
Nathan Smith - Vice Chair
Moretta Bosley
Terry McBrayer
Jo Etta Wickliffe
Louisiana
Chris Whittington - LA Chair
Mary Lou Winters - LA Vice Chair
Patsy Arcenaux
Hon. Renee Gill Pratt
Claude "Buddy" Leach
Maine
Marianne Stevens - ME Vice Chair
Jennifer DeChant
Sam Spencer
Maryland
Michael Cryor - MD Chair
Lauren Glover - MD Vice Chair
Hon. Heather Mizeur
Hon. Gregory Pecoraro
Mary Jo Neville
Massachusetts
John Walsh - MA Chair
Debra Kozikowski
Gus Bickford
Hon. Raymond Jordan
David O'Brien
Margaret Xifaras
Michigan
Arthenia Abbott - MI Vice Chair
Elizabeth Bunn
Debbie Dingell
Hon. Robert Ficano
Joyce Lalonde
Jeffrey Radjewski
Michael Tardiff
Richard Wiener
DNC Debbie Dingell (MI)
Minnesota
Brian Melendez - MN Chair
Donna Cassutt - MN Vice Chair
Nancy Larson
Mississippi
Wayne Dowdy - Chair
Carnelia Pettis Fondren - Vice Chair
Everett Sanders
Missouri
John Temporiti - Chair
Yolanda Wheat - Vice Chair
Leila Medley
Montana
Dennis McDonald - MT Chair
Hon. Margarett Campbell - MT Vice Chair
Jean Lemire Dahlman
Hon. Ed Tinsley
Nebraska
Steven Achelpohl - NE Chair
Audra Ostergard - NE Vice Chair
Kathleen Fahey
Nevada
Jill Derby - NV Chair
Sam Lieberman - NV Vice Chair
New Hampshire
Raymond Buckley - NH Chair
New Jersey
Donald Norcross
DNC Christine "Roz" Samuels (NJ)
New Mexico
Brian Colon - NM Chair
New York
Hon. Herman Farrell Jr.
Dennis Mehiel
Hon. Robert Ramirez
Irene Stein
Sylvia Tokasz
North Carolina
Jerry Meek - NC Chair
Dannie Montgomery - NC Vice Chair
Dr. Jeanette Council
David Parker
Muriel Offerman
Carol Peterson
North Dakota
David Strauss - ND Chair
Renee Pfenning
Ohio
Hon. Chris Redfern - OH Chair
Hon. Rhine McLin - OH Vice Chair
William Burga
Enid Goubeaux
Hon. Mark Mallory
Ronald Malone
Patricia Moss
Sonni Nardi
Oklahoma
Ivan Holmes
Jim Frasier
Oregon
Meredith Woods-Smith - OR Chair
Frank Dixon - OR Vice Chair
Jenny Greenleaf
Wayne Kinney
Pennsylvania
Carol Ann Campbell
Hon. Richard Donatucci
William George
Marcel Groen
Hon. Sophie Masloff
Ian Murray
Evelyn Richardson

[TAB.]

Look for HRC's campaign to try and grab those Michigan and Florida delegates(that they're not supposed to count) to catch up.

[Kristel 75]

Here is the list of Super-delegates

I'm thinking mass emails to them to go with the majority vote. Anyone else?

[Kristel 75]

Look for HRC's campaign to try and grab those Michigan and Florida delegates(that they're not supposed to count) to catch up.

If they do, they better prepare for backlash.

[AK]

Look for HRC's campaign to try and grab those Michigan and Florida delegates(that they're not supposed to count) to catch up.

I would hope that the American people would never stand for this, changing the rules after the game has been played. The rules were that these primaries would not count, so there was no campaigning and no real contests were held in these states. In fact, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. It would be utterly unconscionable to change the rules after the game under these circumstances. For the Clinton camp to even call for this, which they're now doing, is reprehensible IMHO. They display no spirit of fair play and no shame.

This is not going to happen.

[Dolemite73]

I would hope that the American people would never stand for this, changing the rules after the game has been played. The rules were that these primaries would not count, so there was no campaigning and no real contests were held in these states. In fact, Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. It would be utterly unconscionable to change the rules after the game under these circumstances. For the Clinton camp to even call for this, which they're now doing, is reprehensible IMHO. They display no spirit of fair play and no shame.

This is not going to happen.

Agreed. But I could see the DNC doing caucuses in these states though.

[AK]

Agreed. But I could see the DNC doing caucuses in these states though.

That is possible. Personally, I don't think it's going to come to that. My guess is that before the convention (and perhaps even before all of the primaries are completed) one of the candidates will have established a fairly significant lead in the pledged delegate count and the superdelegates (upon the urging of party leadership and other respected voices in the party) will begin to fall in line with that candidate like dominoes.

And if that candidate is Sen. Obama, as I suspect it will be, I also expect to see a lawsuit filed by the Clinton camp, a la Bush v. Gore.

[Huey P. Freeman]

They display no spirit of fair play and no shame.
The funny thing is you sound surprised. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Fuck Hillary.

[Moksha]

Obama is polling about 20 points higher in both Maryland and Virginia.

Anybody read William Kristol's column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11kristol.html?em&ex=1202878800&en=f1c0021895f49a17&ei=5087

[AK]

Obama is polling about 20 points higher in both Maryland and Virginia.

Anybody read William Kristol's column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11kristol.html?em&ex=1202878800&en=f1c0021895f49a17&ei=5087

I know and this scares me! Polls have been funny things in this race. I think he'll be ok in both states, though.

[dj-chefron]

Obama is polling about 20 points higher in both Maryland and Virginia.

Anybody read William Kristol's column?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11kristol.html?em&ex=1202878800&en=f1c0021895f49a17&ei=5087I wouldnt read anything william the bloody wrote and if the last 2 things were his rants and Sidney Sheldons novels I choose Mr. Sheldons novels.

[Moksha]

I wouldnt read anything william the bloody wrote and if the last 2 things were his rants and Sidney Sheldons novels I choose Mr. Sheldons novels.

hahahaha

[dj-chefron]

This is from the Daily Kos
Obama's general elections strategy
by kos
Mon Feb 11, 2008 at 01:10:37 PM PST
My good friend and partner Jerome Armstrong makes a tired "electability" argument over at his joint.

I have heard Clinton's many times, and its been played out in the Democratic nomination battle. She'll take an unprecedented high level of women and Latino majorities into winning all (or nearly all) the states that John Kerry (and/or Al Gore) won, and add in: Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and Florida. Maybe there are some other states, but if we just add those 42 electoral votes to the Democratic column, Clinton would win.

I really only have a single issue: winning. I believe that if more Democrats win, a more progressive agenda will be enacted, and we can make democratic-stronghold challenges in primaries with more progressive candidates (Donna Edwards is gonna beat Wynn, for example).

But what is Barack Obama's winning coalition of states that puts him over 270 electoral votes?

Jerome is too smart to not know the answer. It's easy:

Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico, Arkansas, Virginia, Ohio, and Nevada.

That's 76 electoral votes, already past the 42 sure-things that Jerome thinks Hillary gets (and really, Florida?). So if nothing else changed from 2004, that would be a 328-210 Obama victory. Beyond that, Obama will be competitive elsewhere. What, does Jerome really think that Latinos will choose McCain over Obama after 10 months of Republican immigrant bashing in the news (which will happen, whether McCain joins in or not), or that women will sit November out?

McCain is hated in Alaska for his position on ANWAR. Obama is also against such drilling, of course, but they expect that out of a Democrat. A Republican who opposes it is a traitor. Alaska would be my sleeper call for 2008. Arizona would be in play. Montana could be in play. Kentucky could be in play. West Virginia could be in play. Florida might be in play. And if nothing else, Obama would help close the margin in a lot of Red states, forcing cash-strapped Republicans to play defense across something closer to a 50-state strategy than the inevitable 18-state strategy we'll see out of Clinton. Heck, you're seeing it in this primary, with Obama running in every state, while Clinton brags about sitting out the various states (in an attempt to minimize his victories in places like Louisiana and Washington). She increases the battlefield over 2004, no doubt, but not as wide as Obama does through sheer appeal to independents and even some Republicans.

And yes, running tighter in Red states matters. Not only does it build toward the future (the 50-state strategy, of course), but it certainly matters to Democrats running down the ticket. Go around the country, especially in Red states like I have, and there's no doubt that just about ever Red state Democrat on the ballot wants Obama headlining this November.

Now if someone argues that Hillary is not electable, I'll roll my eyes just as much as I am at the notion that Obama doesn't have a path to the White House. They both do. And while it's not the same path, we'll be favored to win the White House no matter who the nominee is. Any statements to the contrary are quite frankly lacking in reality.

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