Moodyman - The GZA of House music?

[The Donger]

FYI, he is still the man.

So when I found the original sampled record for "In Memory of", I almost shit my pants. So let's talk samples.

Chic Bob James Marvin Gaye Deodato Space Curtis Mayfield ... ?

[ June 03, 2003, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: Ghost Of Donger ]

[GROOVE VICTIM]

That's a good comparison. Maybe Moodyman/Primo and Theo Parrish/The RZA.

I've been listening to Ghost Face Killa's Ironman lately and some of those beats are just plain sick.

[der geile hund]

I see the similarities and love Moodyman, but he's put together like 5% as many quality tracks as RZA.

[DJ76]

I was just listening to "Outer drive" which I have listened hundreds of times. The sample just hit me today. He's good, really good.

[The Donger]

Originally posted by der geile hund:
I see the similarities and love Moodyman, but he's put together like 5% as many quality tracks as RZA. I dunno about that Kack... maybe not as much output, yet.

[Red D]

Originally posted by der geile hund:
I see the similarities and love Moodyman, but he's put together like 5% as many quality tracks as RZA. That's a bit of a lame analogy I think, both producers put out quality, why compare the number of releases?
MM never fails me, that's what counts imo.

No disrespect intended.

RD

[The Donger]

Let's talk sample usage...

[Monny JcIntosh]

I dug out that orange Peacefrog 12" after the thread the other day and noticed the sample of Don Ray's "Standing In The Rain". Nicely done.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

I like those samples that take about 6 months to a year to figure out where they came from. I hate obvious samples.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
I dug out that orange Peacefrog 12" after the thread the other day and noticed the sample of Don Ray's "Standing In The Rain". Nicely done. Moodyman used "Standing in the Rain" for "Black Sunday" on his LP on Peace Frog a few years back.

Peace

[The Donger]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
I dug out that orange Peacefrog 12" after the thread the other day and noticed the sample of Don Ray's "Standing In The Rain". Nicely done. Moodyman used "Standing in the Rain" for "Black Sunday" on his LP on Peace Frog a few years back.

Peace </font>[/QUOTE]Groove, the orange Peacefrog was actually the limited 12" of "Black Sunday". A more extensive mix btw...

[Red D]

Forgot which track it is, but MM also uses a sample from George Benson's 'Give Me The Night' in the smoothest possible way, the little female scatting part.

RD

[Red D]

And how about Theo's Marvin Gaye sample from 'Inner City Blues' in 'Moment Of Instant Insanity', I only got that one when I heard Marvin's song a couple of weeks ago.

RD

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
I dug out that orange Peacefrog 12" after the thread the other day and noticed the sample of Don Ray's "Standing In The Rain". Nicely done. Moodyman used "Standing in the Rain" for "Black Sunday" on his LP on Peace Frog a few years back.

Peace </font>[/QUOTE]Groove, the orange Peacefrog was actually the limited 12" of "Black Sunday". A more extensive mix btw... </font>[/QUOTE]How long is this version on the 12, if I recall "Black Sunday" damn near took up one side of one of the 12s from the double pack.

[Red D]

Pretty long, I don't think they differ much.

RD

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Red D:
And how about Theo's Marvin Gaye sample from 'Inner City Blues' in 'Moment Of Instant Insanity', I only got that one when I heard Marvin's song a couple of weeks ago.

RD That sample was too obvious but I liked the track. I can't listen to the entire song because it gets a lil monotonous but it's cool and has a deep message.

[The Donger]

Besides Gil Scott, what does he use on AmeriKKa?

for "Don't You Want My Love", that's CHic, no?

for that big track it's "Bob James" and "Marvin Gaye"

On "Black Mahogany" what does he use besides Curtis Mayfield?

for "In Memory of" he uses SPace.

On that 12" track with 3 parts it starts with Whistle Bump.

cmon ladies...

[GROOVE VICTIM]

I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something?

[The Donger]

The day we lsot the soul is obviously marvin gaye

for The Dancer, I hear it's a sample from the Fritz The Cat soundtrack.

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Red D:
Forgot which track it is, but MM also uses a sample from George Benson's 'Give Me The Night' in the smoothest possible way, the little female scatting part.

RD It's the one on that Soul City release. I love Give Me the Night.

[Red D]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Besides Gil Scott, what does he use on AmeriKKa?

for "Don't You Want My Love", that's CHic, no?

for that big track it's "Bob James" and "Marvin Gaye"

On "Black Mahogany" what does he use besides Curtis Mayfield?

for "In Memory of" he uses SPace.

On that 12" track with 3 parts it starts with Whistle Bump.

cmon ladies... Trainspotting in FULL effect, you lost me here. I started listening to MM before I discovered where it all came from, so preach on, I'm learning more every day!

I absolutely love 'Moment of...' by Theo, the monotonous style is just why I ultimately like him even more than MM. But that's a different discussion, carry on.
Knew the Bob James one though, classic example of how the sampled version beats the original one!

Would like to know from what song he sampled Prince for KDJ 09 'U Can Dance If You Want To'?

RD

RD

[Red D]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
Forgot which track it is, but MM also uses a sample from George Benson's 'Give Me The Night' in the smoothest possible way, the little female scatting part.

RD It's the one on that Soul City release. I love Give Me the Night. </font>[/QUOTE]You're right, 'Winter Breeze' I believe.

RD

[The Donger]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something? "I'm that Nigga" line in the beginning fading in and out in the intro & outro is from Superfly's Pusherman.

Also the man and woman talking in bed is from a film I saw called Detroit 9000 or 3000 or saomething like that...

[The Donger]

The Prince sample in "U Can Dance if U Want 2" is from "All the Critics Luv U in NY".

[Red D]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something? "I'm that Nigga" line in the beginning fading in and out in the intro & outro is from Superfly's Pusherman.

</font>[/QUOTE]Imma check that one, just found that album last week :D

RD

[Red D]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
The Prince sample in "U Can Dance if U Want 2" is from "All the Critics Luv U in NY". Ta very much!

RD

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by Red D:

Would like to know from what song he sampled Prince for KDJ 09 'U Can Dance If You Want To'?
"All The Critics Love U In New York"

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something? "I'm that Nigga" line in the beginning fading in and out in the intro & outro is from Superfly's Pusherman.

Also the man and woman talking in bed is from a film I saw called Detroit 9000 or 3000 or saomething like that... </font>[/QUOTE]My bad, we're talking about two different songs. I was thinking of "Mahogany Brown" with that Kenlou "Moonshine" type of groove.

My bad.

Peace

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Has anyone figured out the sample for "Stoneodenjoe" from Moodyman's "Mahogany Brown" lp on Peace Frog?

[The Donger]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something? "I'm that Nigga" line in the beginning fading in and out in the intro & outro is from Superfly's Pusherman.

Also the man and woman talking in bed is from a film I saw called Detroit 9000 or 3000 or saomething like that... </font>[/QUOTE]My bad, we're talking about two different songs. I was thinking of "Mahogany Brown" with that Kenlou "Moonshine" type of groove.

My bad.

Peace </font>[/QUOTE]Wait, I think that's the one I am talking about too... 12" with the funky sample guitar loop that sometimes fades out into the break, then comes back in with an occasional phasing going on?

There is a long intro on it with the talking from the film, a little Curtis in and out before the song starts...

[der geile hund]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I'm sorry but I do not hear any Curtis Mayfield in "Black Mahogony". Am I missing something? "I'm that Nigga" line in the beginning fading in and out in the intro & outro is from Superfly's Pusherman.

Also the man and woman talking in bed is from a film I saw called Detroit 9000 or 3000 or saomething like that... </font>[/QUOTE]Also, I believe there's a sample from the thumb-piano-y beginning of Earth Wind & Fire "Evil" during the long intro to "Black Mahogany". Anyone else hear this?

I stand by my RZA claim!

[GROOVE VICTIM]

No, when you listen to the double pack, "m.e.a.n.d.n.j.b" fades out with some eerie ass sound then "Mahogany Brown" fades in with snippets of a fender rhodes riff with some beats in the background. There are no guitar riffs in this song, but there's a sick ass bassline that completes the track.

Peace

[The Donger]

I wanna know the "NMyWagon" samples.

FYI, Maw's "Moonshine" groove for people that may not know is from Gil Scott Heron's Live version of "Home is Where The Hatred Is". One of the best junkie songs ever made in history.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I wanna know the "NMyWagon" samples.

FYI, Maw's "Moonshine" groove for people that may not know is from Gil Scott Heron's Live version of "Home is Where The Hatred Is". One of the best junkie songs ever made in history. Man everyone knows that one!!!!

:D

[The Donger]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
No, when you listen to the double pack, "m.e.a.n.d.n.j.b" fades out with some eerie ass sound then "Mahogany Brown" fades in with snippets of a fender rhodes riff with some beats in the background. There are no guitar riffs in this song, but there's a sick ass bassline that completes the track.

Peace That explains it, you need the 12", that shit is way better than the album version!!! It's more of a breakbeat too, I think the album has more of a 4/4 feel. There is like a 3 minute long intro or something crazy long like that on the 12". So ****ing deep and personal it's just real music regardless of the fact that it's all samples.

[djklas]

I used to have the Genius & GZA liquid swords Instrumental LP and stupidly traded it for a quarter of the dank. That was my favorite Wu Tang releated album..... man I used to know all the lyrics to a few of those songs.
... oh... your talking about the RZA not the GZA.. I don't know too much about RZA's stuff...

who would be the 'ol Dirty bastard of house???

[The Donger]

Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black"

[GROOVE VICTIM]

KDJ 17

Black Mahogany

Mahogany Brown

http://img.discogs.com/R/3282-001.jpg


This must be the 12 you're talking about.

Peace

[michael]

For those that don't know about it, there's some good sample id's for MM, Theo, and others on this page:

http://www.forcefield.org/guide.html

[Red D]

Originally posted by djklas:
I used to have the Genius & GZA liquid swords Instrumental LP and stupidly traded it for a quarter of the dank. That was my favorite Wu Tang releated album..... man I used to know all the lyrics to a few of those songs.
... oh... your talking about the RZA not the GZA.. I don't know too much about RZA's stuff...

who would be the 'ol Dirty bastard of house??? Hey Klas, to bring you back on the topic at hand...I didn't find Ugly Edit 04 in Detroit, shops were all out of it, but you might try www.submerge.com, (http://www.submerge.com,) they had a healthy stock of UGE 1 - 3, so I imagine they'll be getting 04 in as well.

RD

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black" So did Deep Sensation for "Somehow/Someway" on Giudance.

Peace

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
No, when you listen to the double pack, "m.e.a.n.d.n.j.b" fades out with some eerie ass sound then "Mahogany Brown" fades in with snippets of a fender rhodes riff with some beats in the background. There are no guitar riffs in this song, but there's a sick ass bassline that completes the track.

Peace That explains it, you need the 12", that shit is way better than the album version!!! It's more of a breakbeat too, I think the album has more of a 4/4 feel. There is like a 3 minute long intro or something crazy long like that on the 12". So ****ing deep and personal it's just real music regardless of the fact that it's all samples. </font>[/QUOTE]Donger, you're talking about "Black Mahogany" on KDJ - with the EW&F sample DGH mentioned. "Mahogany Brown" didn't come out anywhere other than the LP.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

I just found the 12 with Mahogany Brown included on the flip of "Black Mahogany".

[The Donger]

Originally posted by michael:
For those that don't know about it, there's some good sample id's for MM, Theo, and others on this page:

http://www.forcefield.org/guide.html Oh shit, nice.

That's sort of what I was trying build on this thread for KDJ...

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I just found the 12 with Mahogany Brown included on the flip of "Black Mahogany". Oh, is that what "Mahogany Brown" is? I should listen to the LP again - I thought it was a completely different track. On that 12", KDJ 17, it's two versions of the same track. Sorry, I'll get my coat.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I just found the 12 with Mahogany Brown included on the flip of "Black Mahogany". Oh, is that what "Mahogany Brown" is? I should listen to the LP again - I thought it was a completely different track. On that 12", KDJ 17, it's two versions of the same track. Sorry, I'll get my coat. </font>[/QUOTE]I meant to say that I found information of this 12 at www.discogs.com (http://www.discogs.com) .

The tracklisting includes both songs but I dont know how they sound, for I never heard Black Mahogany. Like you stated, I have the Mahogany Brown LP only.

Peace

[Red D]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
I just found the 12 with Mahogany Brown included on the flip of "Black Mahogany". Oh, is that what "Mahogany Brown" is? I should listen to the LP again - I thought it was a completely different track. On that 12", KDJ 17, it's two versions of the same track. Sorry, I'll get my coat. </font>[/QUOTE]And a matching hat might be in order :D

Jonny, mark august 8/9/10 in your agenda, it's Kinky summer time again, almost exactly 2 years since you first played for us, so another reason to get your groove on!

RD

[danny webb]

the kdj017 version 'black mahogany' was the one recently booted on th flip of 'doin fine'. it is very different to the lp version, and pretty hard to get i beleive.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

DJ Sneak's "Return To Funk" is the type of sample that I want to hear. The song wasn't all that great but I damn near recked my car when I heard where the sample came from. Fayetteville, North Carolina on my way to NYC last year I'm listening to EW&F's "Sungoddess" and I noddin my heard to the Rhodes solo and there it was, about a second worth but that was the sample. I'm yellin my car "There it iss there it iss!!!"

graemlins/rofl.gif

[Monny JcIntosh]

Groove, I've got them at home so I'll check tonight and report tomorrow if noone else has clarified.

Red D, I'll see you then. graemlins/grinyes.gif So did Miss Rickey pass on my request for the Drexciya SID? ;)

[Red D]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
DJ Sneak's "Return To Funk" is the type of sample that I want to hear. The song wasn't all that great but I damn near recked my car when I heard where the sample came from. Fayetteville, North Carolina on my way to NYC last year I'm listening to EW&F's "Sungoddess" and I noddin my heard to the Rhodes solo and there it was, about a second worth but that was the sample. I'm yellin my car "There it iss there it iss!!!"

graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif

that's about the feeling I got when I discovered the 'Love & Happiness' one in SS01!

classic!

RD

[Red D]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
Groove, I've got them at home so I'll check tonight and report tomorrow if noone else has clarified.

Red D, I'll see you then. graemlins/grinyes.gif So did Miss Rickey pass on my request for the Drexciya SID? ;) Nope, but they were all out anyway...

RD

[kuhn]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by michael:
For those that don't know about it, there's some good sample id's for MM, Theo, and others on this page:

http://www.forcefield.org/guide.html Oh shit, nice.

That's sort of what I was trying build on this thread for KDJ... </font>[/QUOTE]I believe a similar list (with audio samples) , but more about general house music samples, is found at

www.housesamples.com (http://www.housesamples.com)

njoy

on topic: Moodymann can deliver, but RZA is more consistent (like someone said be4)...bobby digital anyone ? ;)

[GROOVE VICTIM]

What about Bob James "Nautilus"?

Other than the Obvious ones, "Daytona 500" by Ghost Face Killa being one of them.
Onyx, Soul II Soul to name a few.

Todd Terry's "Bounce to the Beat" sample's this classic. Masters at Work used the same concept for a female RnB group but I can't remember the song.


Peace

[The Donger]

Just learned the main Black Mahogany sample is Isaac Hayes - Joy.

[Dj Alex]

I wonder does anyone really know the main sample of Black Mahogany or is just alot of word of mouth ?..

Peace Alex . ;)

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Dj Alex:
I wonder does anyone really know the main sample of Black Mahogany or is just alot of word of mouth ?..

Peace Alex . ;) I've seen Isaac Hayes Joy around although I don't know it well, Like I wrote I just learned about it being the sample so I'll check to see if it's right...

[KMcS]

I just listened to " Joy" and " Black Mahogany" back to back and can't see " Joy" as being the source of the sample. However my 'stupid' deafness may have kicked in. graemlins/stupid.gif

[The Donger]

Another obvious one is Stevie Wonder's "Livin 4 the City" on "I Can't Kicking This Feeling When It Hits", and the main part is CHic "I Want Your Love"

[The Donger]

"Emotional Content, Not Anger" is Bruce Lee vocal sample. The song is obviously a "Spank" sample.

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif

[The Donger]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
DJ Sneak's "Return To Funk" is the type of sample that I want to hear. The song wasn't all that great but I damn near recked my car when I heard where the sample came from. Fayetteville, North Carolina on my way to NYC last year I'm listening to EW&F's "Sungoddess" and I noddin my heard to the Rhodes solo and there it was, about a second worth but that was the sample. I'm yellin my car "There it iss there it iss!!!"

graemlins/rofl.gif Def check Ramsey Lewis "Sun Godess" album if you don't got it...

[The Donger]

I heard he sampled 808 State... anyone know on what record?

I heard it may have been on "I'm Coming 4 You", but I don't know it for sure.

[The Donger]

I wanna know what he used on "Analog Live", "JOY", "NMyWagon"-all 3 songs, "Silence In The Secret Garden", and "Shattered Dreams".

Spit it out people!!!

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I wanna know what he used on "Analog Live", "JOY", "NMyWagon"-all 3 songs, "Silence In The Secret Garden", and "Shattered Dreams".

Spit it out people!!! Analog Live is "Nude Photo", isn't it?

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, but not the "Backlash" version. It's a later version with Al Jarreau.

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, but not the "Backlash" version. It's a later version with Al Jarreau. </font>[/QUOTE]Was it a cover on an Al Jarreau album then or was it a Freddie Hubbard album? Theo used the same sample on one of his ugly edit joints, 3 I think...

[Monny JcIntosh]

Originally posted by toomuchtv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, but not the "Backlash" version. It's a later version with Al Jarreau. </font>[/QUOTE]Was it a cover on an Al Jarreau album then or was it a Freddie Hubbard album? Theo used the same sample on one of his ugly edit joints, 3 I think... </font>[/QUOTE]It's a Freddie Hubbard album with Jarreau on it. From 1979 but I can't remember the title.

[SHEIK YERBOUTI]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif Yes, but not the "Backlash" version. It's a later version with Al Jarreau. </font>[/QUOTE]Was it a cover on an Al Jarreau album then or was it a Freddie Hubbard album? Theo used the same sample on one of his ugly edit joints, 3 I think... </font>[/QUOTE]It's a Freddie Hubbard album with Jarreau on it. From 1979 but I can't remember the title. </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[michael]

Originally posted by Dj Alex:
I wonder does anyone really know the main sample of Black Mahogany or is just alot of word of mouth ?..

Peace Alex . ;) I know I've come across this sample in my cd collection. It's either on Herbie Hancock Head Hunters, Thrust, or its from my Mingus box set (as unlikely as that sounds). I'll find it tonight when I get home.

[The Donger]

Originally posted by Jonny McIntosh:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I wanna know what he used on "Analog Live", "JOY", "NMyWagon"-all 3 songs, "Silence In The Secret Garden", and "Shattered Dreams".

Spit it out people!!! Analog Live is "Nude Photo", isn't it? </font>[/QUOTE]I thought I heard stuff that sounded familiar on that record. I've heard Nude Photo before but don't own it, so I wouldn't know which parts for sure. Which parts exactly?

[The Donger]

Originally posted by michael:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dj Alex:
I wonder does anyone really know the main sample of Black Mahogany or is just alot of word of mouth ?..

Peace Alex . ;) I know I've come across this sample in my cd collection. It's either on Herbie Hancock Head Hunters, Thrust, or its from my Mingus box set (as unlikely as that sounds). I'll find it tonight when I get home. </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe it is Mingus, cause I have the other two Herbie Hancock albums, but I need to relisten just in case!

[michael]

Sorry, now I think I'm getting confused. I think what I was thinking of was 'Mahogany Brown' not 'Black Mahagony'. The lick from 'Mahogany Brown' is from 'Actual Proof' on Herbie Hancock's Thrust. Sorry.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by michael:
Sorry, now I think I'm getting confused. I think what I was thinking of was 'Mahogany Brown' not 'Black Mahagony'. The lick from 'Mahogany Brown' is from 'Actual Proof' on Herbie Hancock's Thrust. Sorry. WHERE, I'm PLAYING THIS SHIT TONIGHT when I get home!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been playing "Butterfly" so damn much that I haven't listen to the rest of "Thrust".

Peace

[Ron la Rock]

THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER EXCITING EPISODE OF
"NAME THAT SAMPLE"

AR15firing.gif

[Ron la Rock]

hello
"trainspotters anonynmous"
I have these freindz they need your
help
quickly.....
graemlins/bolt.gif

[FranG]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I wanna know what he used on "Analog Live", "JOY", "NMyWagon"-all 3 songs, "Silence In The Secret Garden", and "Shattered Dreams".

Spit it out people!!! The string surges on 'Analogue Live' are taken from an early european industrial band. Either Laibach or Eistrurzende Neubausen. I THINK!

[danny webb]

Originally posted by FranG:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I wanna know what he used on "Analog Live", "JOY", "NMyWagon"-all 3 songs, "Silence In The Secret Garden", and "Shattered Dreams".

Spit it out people!!! The string surges on 'Analogue Live' are taken from an early european industrial band. Either Laibach or Eistrurzende Neubausen. I THINK! </font>[/QUOTE]although it sounds similar i am not wholly convinced it's nude photo, then again i could (and have been) wrong...

[TAC]

Bunch of geeks...

[The Donger]

Originally posted by TAC:
Bunch of geeks... Stop co-opting my thread!

[kev]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
[QBI've been listening to Ghost Face Killa's Ironman lately and some of those beats are just plain sick. [/QB]Favorite line from that album - "with the strength of 20 midgets". The strength of 20 midgets? WTF?

[TAC]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Bunch of geeks... Stop co-opting my thread! </font>[/QUOTE]Just my observation. I checked in when this was one page. I look in later, its four pages long. A quick skim, and people are ranting about spotting samples. Its geekism at its finest. You can have your thread. I won't post anymore...

[rcn]

Hey. I noticed this one night... The drum break on Mahogany Brown is lifted from Third World - Now That We Found Love.

Rob.

[ June 03, 2003, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: rcn ]

[prussell]

I don't think these were listed yet:

Soul (iwasbluntedonthismix) Party, &
U Got Me Blunted Up = Willie Hutch-Slick
Sunday Morning (KDJ 12" mix) = Sun Palace-Rude Movements
Moods&Grooves#5 a2 = Ten City (can't remember which)
KDJ 23b = Carl Craig-Suspiria
No Drum Machine (new 3 Chairs) = Karma-High Priestess
Drum Patterns & Memories (Godson; MM mix) = Peter Jacques Band-Fly With The Wind
Track 2 Track = Not sure of the origin of that snappy percussion, but also used on "Southside" by Dave Clarke.....!?!?

...all I can think of right now....

.pr

[prussell]

almost forgot...

Amerika = Curtis Mayfield-Love Me, Love Me Now

"...to check YOU OUT..."
...you out...
...you out...
...you out...
hail.gif

[David Le C]

Originally posted by kevin koga:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
[QBI've been listening to Ghost Face Killa's Ironman lately and some of those beats are just plain sick. Favorite line from that album - "with the strength of 20 midgets". The strength of 20 midgets? WTF? [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]20 midgets? Isn't that how much you need to screw in a lightbulb?

[David Le C]

Originally posted by toomuchtv:
Since we're on some sample naming, is the sample from "Burning" by Pepe Braddock by Freddie Hubbard? I've heard it's "Sunflower"(?) graemlins/conf44.gif I've heard that the strings came from an old James Bond flick... just a rumor though...

[Alan B-O-N]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black" I have both, but I cant find the sample he used...

:rolleyes:

[Red D]

Originally posted by L.Housensual:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black" I have both, but I cant find the sample he used...

:rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Just like in school, listen till you do know :D

Or give it to Red D for further analysis...

RD

[Alan B-O-N]

Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by L.Housensual:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black" I have both, but I cant find the sample he used...

:rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Just like in school, listen till you do know :D

Or give it to Red D for further analysis...

RD </font>[/QUOTE]DDDDDddddd! smile.gif

BTW, THX for the TP classic (again)!

L.

[Red D]

Originally posted by L.Housensual:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by L.Housensual:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
Amp Dogg Knight samples Syl Johnsons's "Is It Because I am Black" I have both, but I cant find the sample he used...

:rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Just like in school, listen till you do know :D

Or give it to Red D for further analysis...

RD </font>[/QUOTE]DDDDDddddd! smile.gif

BTW, THX for the TP classic (again)!

L. </font>[/QUOTE]Yep, one of the best recs of last year if you ask me.

For the other people: Reggie Dokes - First Manifestation EP (Psychostasia)

En ik heb hem nu dubbel ook, op phrooomooh...

RD

[David Le C]

gimme some icon_rofl.gif

[The Donger]

Originally posted by prussell:
I don't think these were listed yet:

Soul (iwasbluntedonthismix) Party, &
U Got Me Blunted Up = Willie Hutch-Slick
Sunday Morning (KDJ 12" mix) = Sun Palace-Rude Movements
Moods&Grooves#5 a2 = Ten City (can't remember which)
KDJ 23b = Carl Craig-Suspiria
No Drum Machine (new 3 Chairs) = Karma-High Priestess
Drum Patterns & Memories (Godson; MM mix) = Peter Jacques Band-Fly With The Wind
Track 2 Track = Not sure of the origin of that snappy percussion, but also used on "Southside" by Dave Clarke.....!?!?

almost forgot...

Amerika = Curtis Mayfield-Love Me, Love Me Now

"...to check YOU OUT..."
...you out...
...you out...
...you out... Nice work!!! The Curtis one was the one I was really trying to figure out!

[Red D]

This thread is having serious repercussions on my wants list...

RD

[ramar]

Dont You Want My Love samples Crusaders a cut from the Southern Knights LP... apparently :D

[The Donger]

Off of the new LP that just dropped I heard the cowbells from Mr. Lee's "I Can't Forget", and 1/4 of bassline of Cerrone/Don Ray's "Gotta Have Lovin" on "Yesterday's Party".

FYI, "Yesterday's Party" is my favorite track off of the new album...

[ June 16, 2003, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: Ghost Of Donger ]

[jurren]

Originally posted by prussell:
I don't think these were listed yet:

KDJ 23b = Carl Craig-Suspiria the track on side a of that kdj sounds somewhat familiar aswell [especially the last 1 or 2 minutes] or is it just another version of another kdj song [b1 is a stripped down version of the b-side of telephone blue]?

jurren

[suenomartino]

Originally posted by KMcS:
I just listened to " Joy" and " Black Mahogany" back to back and can't see " Joy" as being the source of the sample. However my 'stupid' deafness may have kicked in. graemlins/stupid.gif Drum loop sampled from "Joy" is used right through Black Mahogany.

Same break as Ice-T's "Power", except he just loops the second half of the bar.

[DJ76]

Originally posted by Red D:


that's about the feeling I got when I discovered the 'Love & Happiness' one in SS01!

classic!

RD [/QB]which track on SS01?

[prussell]

oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game"

[The Donger]

Originally posted by prussell:
oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game" That punchy Acidy track, or the breakbeat track on the flip?

[prussell]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by prussell:
oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game" That punchy Acidy track, or the breakbeat track on the flip? </font>[/QUOTE]The punchy acidy one... graemlins/grinyes.gif
If you need a copy of the Wet record, PM me....

[ramar]

Originally posted by prussell:
oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game" thanks for the ID... there appear to be 2 12s, one with the Dynamic Mix & the another with the Continental Mix - any tips as to which to seek?

peace
RMR

[prussell]

Originally posted by ramar:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by prussell:
oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game" thanks for the ID... there appear to be 2 12s, one with the Dynamic Mix & the another with the Continental Mix - any tips as to which to seek?
RMR </font>[/QUOTE]Hmm.
My copy has neither mix listed. Side A is the vocal, side B has two instrumental versions; STD records, Holland 1983 (STD1201). I think the Continental mix was put out in 1984, on Bellaphon perhaps...??
I have a feeling one of my instrumental versions is the 'Dynamic Mix', though.
Hope this helps.

[ramar]

Originally posted by prussell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ramar:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by prussell:
oops, I forgot this one:

Dem Young Sconies = Wet-"That's The Game" thanks for the ID... there appear to be 2 12s, one with the Dynamic Mix & the another with the Continental Mix - any tips as to which to seek?
RMR </font>[/QUOTE]Hmm.
My copy has neither mix listed. Side A is the vocal, side B has two instrumental versions; STD records, Holland 1983 (STD1201). I think the Continental mix was put out in 1984, on Bellaphon perhaps...??
I have a feeling one of my instrumental versions is the 'Dynamic Mix', though.
Hope this helps. </font>[/QUOTE]it helps plenty... thanks
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