Loft ...London...Playlist ?

[Stevie]

Hi Mr Mancuso,
do you post a tracklist of the loft, London parties ?
I heard a lot of music i would like to track down.
In particular the version of " Voices " and Molokos" " Forever more ".
Just one more question, did you ever not follow the audiophile path and go in search of power ?
Thanks
Steve.

[blackwax]

maybe FK mix of forever more although i wasn't at the last party

[Stevie]

maybe FK mix of forever more although i wasn't at the last party

You could be right judging by the price of them on discogs.
Thanks for the tip.

[blackwax]

my pleasure

glad you enjoyed the party

[MarkK]

Stevie, I loved the sound levels. Could hear the music AND talk.

[Stevie]

Stevie, I loved the sound levels. Could hear the music AND talk.

Yes i liked the sound as well. I find your ears adjust to the levels quickly. I went to a couple of partys afterwards and boy the difference was amazing.
My ears were ringing and we were all shouting at each other in minutes.
Have you been to the New York parties ? Well worth a visit.

[Chris Wood]

You could be right judging by the price of them on discogs.
Thanks for the tip.

get it on CD

[Stevie]

get it on CD

I like the old analogue bin lid.
The good stuff just keeps going up and up.

[Fred Naked]

Gleaned from the other board:

Paulinho Da Costa - Agora Lp
Stanley Clarke - School days
Dr Rockit - Cafe de Flore
Patti Labelle - Moon shadows
Jimmy Ross- First True love affair
Prince - I wanna Be your lover
Frankie knuckles - Whadda U want from me (classic dub)
4th measure men - Need
madleen kane - forbidden love
Hudson people - trip to your mind
Laidback - white horse
Double exposure - Ten percent & My love is free
Solo - Girls Girls
visual - the music got me
sebastian tellier - broadway (chicken lips remix)
ame - rej
baricentro - tittle tattle
prince - sexy dancer
azymuth - jazz carnival
ozo - anambra
Zero 7 "you're my flame" (justus koehncke mix)
VHS or Beta - You Got me (Juan Maclean Remix)

[Armento]

David,

Have you heard Ame's - Fiori? If not you need to and I know you'll be playing it with a big grin. :mwink:

[Martin Red]

can I have a food listing please and also the recipe for some of those vegtable dishes.

[Christophe]

Hi Mr Mancuso,
do you post a tracklist of the loft, London parties ?
I heard a lot of music i would like to track down.
In particular the version of " Voices " and Molokos" " Forever more ".
Just one more question, did you ever not follow the audiophile path and go in search of power ?
Thanks
Steve.

I wasn't there unfortunately (hoping to go this year 4sure again), but some voices inside my head are tellin me it could be that A track version of:
http://www.discogs.com/release/125020

I hope you had a great time there, it's all about good vibes, good people and good music. I'm sure you've heard mr mancuso's 'voice' through his records :-)
regards

[david_mancuso]

Just pop back on line/board for a minute and then saw this thread.

Will come back with more info.

Thank you

d.

[david_mancuso]

maybe FK mix of forever more although i wasn't at the last party

That's it :)

[david_mancuso]

can I have a food listing please and also the recipe for some of those vegtable dishes.

Contact Cedric :)

[david_mancuso]

David,

Have you heard Ame's - Fiori? If not you need to and I know you'll be playing it with a big grin. :mwink:

Is this on vinyl? & what label.

Not sure if I know it by title.

Thank you Armen.

[david_mancuso]

Gleaned from the other board:

Paulinho Da Costa - Agora Lp
Stanley Clarke - School days
Dr Rockit - Cafe de Flore
Patti Labelle - Moon shadows
Jimmy Ross- First True love affair
Prince - I wanna Be your lover
Frankie knuckles - Whadda U want from me (classic dub)
4th measure men - Need
madleen kane - forbidden love
Hudson people - trip to your mind
Laidback - white horse
Double exposure - Ten percent & My love is free
Solo - Girls Girls
visual - the music got me
sebastian tellier - broadway (chicken lips remix)
ame - rej
baricentro - tittle tattle
prince - sexy dancer
azymuth - jazz carnival
ozo - anambra
Zero 7 "you're my flame" (justus koehncke mix)
VHS or Beta - You Got me (Juan Maclean Remix)

Thank you Fred :)

btw....live version of School Days

[david_mancuso]

visual - the music got me ----> Instrumental 12" orig. test pres.

[Benguin]

Is this on vinyl? & what label.

Not sure if I know it by title.

Thank you Armen.

yes it's available on vinyl, it came out on Ostgut Tonträger...it's a 17 minute long epic and was written for a ballet.

juno and phonica still have copies

[TAD]

Stevie, I loved the sound levels. Could hear the music AND talk.

why do you care?

[blackwax]

because way too often folks get ear fatigue (that awful ringing)
maybe people want to NOT damage there ears
maybe there is no real need to play the music that damb loud

[Martin Red]

because way too often folks get ear fatigue (that awful ringing)
maybe people want to NOT damage there ears
maybe there is no real need to play the music that damb loud


YOU'LL HAVE TO SHOUT MATE, WHAT ?

Skaby pairs piss on real hard to play demused bat lamb chouder


WHAT THE FUCK ON YOU ON ABOUT MATE.

[blackwax]

YOU'LL HAVE TO SHOUT MATE, WHAT ?

Skaby pairs piss on real hard to play demused bat lamb chouder


WHAT THE FUCK ON YOU ON ABOUT MATE.


hahahaah yeah i spend a lot of time just nodding and saying yes mate

[Martin Red]

hahahaah yeah i spend a lot of time just nodding and saying yes mate

:), some people damage the ears more than the sound system. I end up using telepathy

"see the finger , see the finger , see the finger in my ear, ask yourself why I have a finger in my ear, YES, you are speaking to loud in my ear so I am blocking the sound with my finger"

click, and your back in the room.

[blackwax]

LOL i have done that a few times!!

A friend actually severly damaged his ear because some one shoted in it at a club
he then had to quit the sound engineering coarse he was doing at that time
gutted

[Martin Red]

LOL i have done that a few times!!

A friend actually severly damaged his ear because some one shoted in it at a club
he then had to quit the sound engineering coarse he was doing at that time
gutted

That's a terrible thing to happen

[blackwax]

yeah he was absolutly gutted
he kept his studio for a while at home but never was the same
now he sold up and is travelling Thailand

[Pang]

David,

Have you heard Ame's - Fiori? If not you need to and I know you'll be playing it with a big grin. :mwink:

I love this tune, YES!

[david_mancuso]

yes it's available on vinyl, it came out on Ostgut Tonträger...it's a 17 minute long epic and was written for a ballet.

juno and phonica still have copies

Thank you Benguin :)

[david_mancuso]

Hi Mr Mancuso,
do you post a tracklist of the loft, London parties ?
I heard a lot of music i would like to track down.
In particular the version of " Voices " and Molokos" " Forever more ".
Just one more question, did you ever not follow the audiophile path and go in search of power ?
Thanks
Steve.

Greetings again Stevie :)

Voices is a 12" test pressing that I got from Jellybean. It was a white label w/no other info and is the one I have always used.

If you want the metrix # than please let me know.

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audiophile path in search of power:

As true with anything, efficiency is the proper path. I basically use max. 25 watts per Klipsch Horn (speakers) only. 'Power' can become like a "hot stove" if one is not careful.

Inefficient spks have to be PUSHED. Result is that you will hear more "of the sound system" than of the music itself.


Loft/nyc - set-up:
7 spk's. x 25 watts = 175 watts total for both channels. 3 spk's. for left channel//3 spk's for right channel///and one center (mono) channel.

Klipsch spk's. being a "folded horn" projects the sound. Ex. a French folded horn (musical instrument).

Klipsch spk's. can work quite well -even at only 2 watts only per spk.

:) ex. -- one liter of petrol for the car will take you 100 miles when efficient.

...back later w/ more info re: titles

Have a great day!

david

[david_mancuso]

:), some people damage the ears more than the sound system. I end up using telepathy

"see the finger , see the finger , see the finger in my ear, ask yourself why I have a finger in my ear, YES, you are speaking to loud in my ear so I am blocking the sound with my finger"

click, and your back in the room.

When appropriate, I will lean over and whisper directly in their ear and softly say..."you don't have to shout." It works.

If someone ask that the sound level should be raised and if I am already starting to touch into the "red zone" - then I suggest they just move up closer to a speaker.

This works too.

Other than that...I just show them the sound level meter and how it is registering. This speaks "volumes" when they see it.

My average playback levels with respect to a properly engineered recording is 95 - 103 max. from where I am positioned. From there to the center of the floor max could go up 3-5 more db.

This is also the same when it is recorded. 100db + or - 3db

Together the sound then "opens up."

Have a great day Martin! :)

[Martin Red]

When appropriate, I will lean over and whisper directly in their ear and softly say..."you don't have to shout." It works.

If someone ask that the sound level should be raised and if I am already starting to touch into the "red zone" - then I suggest they just move up closer to a speaker.

This works too.

Other than that...I just show them the sound level meter and how it is registering. This speaks "volumes" when they see it.

My average playback levels with respect to a properly engineered recording is 95 - 103 max. from where I am positioned. From there to the center of the floor max could go up 3-5 more db.

This is also the same when it is recorded. 100db + or - 3db

Together the sound then "opens up."

Have a great day Martin! :)


Cheers David, thanks again for playing LA Nights, one of my 'favourites things' :)


Friday, wooh hoo :)

[david_mancuso]

Cheers David, thanks again for playing LA Nights, one of my 'favourites things' :)


Friday, wooh hoo :)

:) Cheers Mate!

[Stevie]

Greetings again Stevie :)

Voices is a 12" test pressing that I got from Jellybean. It was a white label w/no other info and is the one I have always used.

If you want the metrix # than please let me know.

----

audiophile path in search of power:

As true with anything, efficiency is the proper path. I basically use max. 25 watts per Klipsch Horn (speakers) only. 'Power' can become like a "hot stove" if one is not careful.

Inefficient spks have to be PUSHED. Result is that you will hear more "of the sound system" than of the music itself.


Loft/nyc - set-up:
7 spk's. x 25 watts = 175 watts total for both channels. 3 spk's. for left channel//3 spk's for right channel///and one center (mono) channel.

Klipsch spk's. being a "folded horn" projects the sound. Ex. a French folded horn (musical instrument).

Klipsch spk's. can work quite well -even at only 2 watts only per spk.

:) ex. -- one liter of petrol for the car will take you 100 miles when efficient.

...back later w/ more info re: titles

Have a great day!

david

Thank you sir, you are a gentleman and your response reflects your music selection........ impeccable !


Stevie.

[machin]

Dear Mr Mancuso,

At the beginning of the last loft party in London, you've played a very strange record in several parts : first one sounds like "a sound check", second one was like indian music, third one like a country record... Any ID ?
Thank you for your answer.

[david_mancuso]

Greetings machin :)

It was the first 4 cuts on Side one/lp.

http://web.mit.edu/scholvin/www/harrison/c300.htm

George Harrison Lp "Wonder Wall" - Apple Records

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Name: Wonderwall Music
Duration: 45.45
Band: George Harrison
US Release: 2nd December 1968

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Microbes
Red Lady Too
Tabla And Pakavaj
In The Park
Drilling A Home
Guru Vandana
Greasy Legs
Ski-ing
Gat Kirwani
Dream Scene
Party Seacombe
Love Scene
Crying
Cowboy Music
Fantasy Sequins
On The Bed
Glass Box
Wonderwall To Be Here
Singing Om

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booklet contents and general album data

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Name: Wonderwall Music
Duration: 45.45
Band: George Harrison
US Release: 2nd December 1968
CD-Number: CDS 7 98706 2


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the music:

published by Northern Songs
written, arranged and produced by
George Harrison for Apple Records
Recorded: January 1968

the film:

WONDERWALL
starring Jack MacGowran, Jane Birkin
directed by Joe Massot
produced by Andrew Bronsberg

photo by Astrid Kemp
original sleeve designs by Bob Gill/
John Kelly/Alan Aldridge from a
photograph by Camera Press
re-issue package by Phil Smee
at Waldo's Design

the musicians:

Ashish Kahn, sarod

Mahapurush Misra, tabla & pakavaj

Sharad & Hanuman Jadev, shanhais
Shambu-Das, sitar
Indrill Bhattacharya, sitar
Shankar Ghosh, sitar
Chandra Shakher, sur-bahar
Shiv Kumar Shermar, santoor

S.R. Kenkare, flute
Vinaik Vora, thar-shanhai
Rij Ram Desad, harmonium & tabla-tarang
John Barham, piano & flugel horn
Tommy Reilly, harmonica
Colin Manley, guitar & steel guitar
Edward Antony Ashton, jangle piano & organ
Philip Rogers, bass
Roy Dyke, drums

Special thanks to friends loops and
all the staff at EMI Bombay

(p) 1992 The copyright in this sound
recording is owned by
Apple Corps Ltd. under exclusive
licence to EMI Records Ltd.
(c) 1992 EMI Records Ltd.

- pictures: -
Scenes from the film
Jane Birkin, George, Ringo and the cast of "Wonderwall",
in Cannes for the premiere.
Cinema poster

re-issue digitally remastered by Ron Furmanek
at Capitol Recording Studios, Hollywood,
December 1991, engineered by Kevin Reeves

this albgum was mastered from the original two-
track stereo master mix tapes

all tracks are stereo "AAD"

This album represents George Harrison's first venture into solo work in conjunction with movies and is, like the film for which it was the score, a creature of its time: late sixties, full of colour, whim, daring and fantasy. As an item on new-fangled CD, it is a little gem.
George remembers, "Joe massot, the director, asked me would I do the music for his film and I said, 'I don't know how to do musics for films,' and he said, 'Anything you do I will have in the film,' and those were the terms on which I agreed to do the work."

"I decided to do it as a mini-anthology of Indian music because I wanted to help turn the public on to Indian music". Joe Massot showed him a rough uncut version of the film at Twickenham Film Studios and on that George composed an overall soundtrack.

After visiting Bombay for the Indian sequences he remarked, "It was fantastic really. The studio is on top of the offices but there's no sound-proofing. So if you listen closely to some of the Indian tracks on the LP you can hear taxis goung by."

"Every time the office knocked off at 5.30 we had to stop recording because you could just hear everybody stomping down the steps. They only had a big EMI mono machine. I mixed everything as we did it there, and that was nice enough because you get spoiled working on eight and sixteen tracks."

Back at EMI in Abbey Road, George recorded the British contingent, including Eric Clapton, Tony Ashton and others in The Remo Four, plus Ringo Starr, John Barham and Tommy Reilly.

George reported to Twickenham studio before going to Abbey Road, on a regular basis. There were hundreds of music cues in the film and he recalls, "I had a regular wind-up stopwatch and I watched the film to "spot-in" the music with the watch. I wrote the timings down in my book, then I'd go to Abbey Road, make up a piece, record it and when we'd synch it up at Twickenham it always worked. it was always right."

The film itself is a late "Swinging London" era tale of Oscar, a professor (played by Jack MacGowran), who works for the water board. Late one night he sees an image of a girl projected in his room. He discovers that it is emanating from a small hole in the wall, and looking through it he sees Jane Birkin, a beautiful model. To see more of her he makes more holes - and becomes besotted with her. She is being treated badly by the leading man played by Iain Quarrier and there are psychedelic fantasies. That's more or less it. Featured players included the estimable Irene Handl & Richard Wattis. The film was not commercially successful but not a disaster and it was premiered in Cannes with George Harrison and Ringo Starr and Jane Birkin along for the event.

After its London premiere on January 20, 1969, Gordon Gow wrote in the March issue of Films and Filming, "Unlesss you are jaded by too prolonged an exposure to the swinging half-myth, you might quite enjoy the blending of bright colours and Harrison music in Wonderwall . . . the Harrison music replaces dialogue, waxing almost vocal like a cinema organist from the silent days."

I remember the "Wonderwall" project well, insofar that it involved me, back in Apple HQ in Savile Row. We had a lofty American designer Bob Gill do a post- Magritte painting of a brick wall with an archetypal member of the mid 20th Century British bourgeoisie, isolated, loitering, separated by the wall from the Indian maidens at play on the other side in, as you can see, a state and place of ideal happiness. It was a nice painting but missed the essence of hope.

George remembers, "I suggested we take a brick out of the wall to give the fellow on the other side a chance, just as the Jack MacGowran character had a chance. Bob Gill didn't want to do it, but he did it." Well I remember that wall, that brick.

With what difference one suggests to an artist that he changes the form and essence of his work, however slightly. Bob Gill and I never quite recoverd our compatibility but the brick did have to go so it went. Were we right? Yes.

The other wall was brought in by George, who got an agency ten-by-eight of the Berlin barrier. It was then reversed and here you now have a nice bright little graphic, innovative in those days, proud and sharp as the prow of a liner.

All these years later, "Wonderwall" is as charming, fascinating and original a soundtrack as you could wish to have re-released all these years later. Put on the player, put on the light-show, brighten up and let go.

Derek Taylor

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Microbes
Duration: 3.42
Track No.: 1
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Red Lady Too
Duration: 1.55
Track No.: 2
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Tabla And Pakavaj
Duration: 1.05
Track No.: 3
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: In The Park
Duration: 4.08
Track No.: 4
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Drilling A Home
Duration: 3.07
Track No.: 5
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Guru Vandana
Duration: 1.04
Track No.: 6
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Greasy Legs
Duration: 1.27
Track No.: 7
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Ski-ing
Duration: 1.50
Track No.: 8
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Gat Kirwani
Duration: 1.15
Track No.: 9
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Dream Scene
Duration: 5.26
Track No.: 10
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Party Seacombe
Duration: 4.34
Track No.: 11
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Love Scene
Duration: 4.17
Track No.: 12
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Crying
Duration: 1.14
Track No.: 13
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Cowboy Music
Duration: 1.28
Track No.: 14
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Fantasy Sequins
Duration: 1.50
Track No.: 15
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: On The Bed
Duration: 1.04
Track No.: 16
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Glass Box
Duration: 2.21
Track No.: 17
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Wonderwall To Be Here
Duration: 1.25
Track No.: 18
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lyrics:
- Instrumental -
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Instruments & additional info.:
- See CD-Info. -

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Song: Singing Om
Duration: 1.54
Track No.: 19
Composer: George Harrison
Vocals: - Instrumental -
Year: 1968

[Chris Wood]

are martin red and David M the same person???? lol!

[david_mancuso]

only the shadow knows 4 sure :)

[machin]

only the shadow knows 4 sure :)

Thank you !!! Great record !

[andy t]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF-ALx1DtLU

sorry I missed you play this one David - arrived later after long Easter dinner. I think the film might be best avoided though?

[david_mancuso]

dropping some @..... &/or ... ~ & listening to the lp track's makes 4 one's own movie :) At least for me, that was the way it happened -since the day "one."

Harrison's musical intent was so pictorial to begin with. Difficult to try and capture that spirit on/in a movie.

[Martin Red]

http://www.ort.cuhk.edu.hk/wktang/pic/MoonShadow1.jpg