Early house cuts ahead of their time

[darrow]

So I'm home last night blowing the dust off a couple of records and played Rhythim is Rhythim's
"It Is What It Is" and "Feel Surreal" (two of my favorite cuts of all time) and thought "damn! these cuts were way ahead of their time!!".

Sooo...looking back, what other house (yeah, I know RisR was early Detroit Techno) cuts were ahead of their time?

[DLow]

What up, Darrow?
I'm gonna piggy-back on Rhythm is Rhythm; 'The Dance'...definitely a track I always liked. Also on the Transmat label, 'R-Theme/R-Tyme'. IMO, these two tracks were ahead of their time.

Peace

['Magic' Juan]

1. Marshall Jefferson presents Truth: Open Our Eyes

2. Manuel Gottshching: E2-E4 (still sampled 'til this day)

3. Virgo and Virgo Four EP's

4. Martin Circus: Disco Circus (still played 'til this day)

5. Earth People: Dance

So many more .....

magic_juan

[darrow]

Originally posted by Derrick:
What up, Darrow?
I'm gonna piggy-back on Rhythm is Rhythm; 'The Dance'...definitely a track I always liked. Also on the Transmat label, 'R-Theme/R-Tyme'. IMO, these two tracks were ahead of their time.

Peace ahhh yes...R-Theme/R-Tyme was a very different sort of track. Friends (the non-heads ones) HATED when I played that.

[upliftdisco365]

Someone mentioned "R U Hot Enough". Definitley this one.

Waterfall - (Larry Heard?)
W.L.L. - Massimo Barsotti DJ
Never Give Up on Love - Brat Pack
Tell Me When the Fever Ended - Electribe 101
Helpless - Urbanized feat. Silvano
Rushing - Loni Clark
Queenie - Ethyl Meatplow

[POJI]

1.Fingers Inc Mystery of Love
2.Ron Trent - Altered States
3.Alexis P. Sutter- Slam Me Baby
4.N.C.O.P. Project - Whats It All About
5.Rhythm Is Rhythm - Strings of Life


"The Deeper Side of Midnight" WEAA 88.9fm every Thursday night 12 midnight til 3am Listen through the Internet at www.handzonradio.fm (http://www.handzonradio.fm) Peace DjPope

[Sensei Melei]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
[QB] Someone mentioned "R U Hot Enough". Definitley this one.

Waterfall - (Larry Heard?)
W.L.L. - Massimo Barsotti DJ
Tell Me When the Fever Ended - Electribe 101
Rushing - Loni Clark


Crockett:

You were ON POINT with these cuts. Definitely ahead of their time.
hail.gif I am not worthy!!!

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Jazz Documents "Secret Code/Private Code"
Lil Louis "Jazzman"
Earth People "Dance"
The Untouchables "Lil Louie's Theme"
Sound Waves "I wanna Feel the Music"


Peace

[DJ RON C]

Time Marches On-Jungle Wonz

Simple, to-the point, perfect. graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[E-Phi]

"Promised Land" Joe Smooth
"Winter Days & Summer Nights" _________
"Space Talk" Masters of the Universe
"I Want It To Be Real" Farley Piano remix
"The Jungle" Jungle Wonz
"What I Do" Jere McAllister
"Acid Tracks" Phuture
"Tears" Frankie Knuckles

[darrow]

Originally posted by E-Phi:
"Promised Land" Joe Smooth
"Winter Days & Summer Nights" _________
"Space Talk" Masters of the Universe
"I Want It To Be Real" Farley Piano remix
"The Jungle" Jungle Wonz
"What I Do" Jere McAllister
"Acid Tracks" Phuture
"Tears" Frankie Knuckles hmmm...What I Do, eh? It's probably hard to explain, but why do you think that one was ahead of it's time? (another favorite of mine by the way)

['Magic' Juan]

Originally posted by darrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by E-Phi:
"Promised Land" Joe Smooth
"Winter Days & Summer Nights" _________
"Space Talk" Masters of the Universe
"I Want It To Be Real" Farley Piano remix
"The Jungle" Jungle Wonz
"What I Do" Jere McAllister
"Acid Tracks" Phuture
"Tears" Frankie Knuckles hmmm...What I Do, eh? It's probably hard to explain, but why do you think that one was ahead of it's time? (another favorite of mine by the way) </font>[/QUOTE]Damn ... I totally forgot about that track. If anyone has a spare, drop me a PM. Let's do bizness ...

magic_juan graemlins/cool_shades.gif

[ultra]

Aphrodisiac "Song of the Siren"

[ December 02, 2003, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: ultra ]

[E-Phi]

Originally posted by darrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by E-Phi:
"Promised Land" Joe Smooth
"Winter Days & Summer Nights" _________
"Space Talk" Masters of the Universe
"I Want It To Be Real" Farley Piano remix
"The Jungle" Jungle Wonz
"What I Do" Jere McAllister
"Acid Tracks" Phuture
"Tears" Frankie Knuckles hmmm...What I Do, eh? It's probably hard to explain, but why do you think that one was ahead of it's time? (another favorite of mine by the way) </font>[/QUOTE]To me it had a groove (or sound) that other records out at that time didn't have or were missing.

['Magic' Juan]

Lil Louis - Why'd U Fall?

Candido - Thousand Finger Man

Sleezy D - I've Lost Control

Adonis - No Way Back

magic_juan

[darrow]

Cool. I wish I could remember what I thought when I first heard it except that I loved it.

I have a version that is on a compilation album of Chicaog House. Now I'm wondering if this version is the same as one of what I see listed on the 12" as the Club Mix, Instrumental, and Radio mix.

[E-Phi]

Originally posted by darrow:
Cool. I wish I could remember what I thought when I first heard it except that I loved it.

I have a version that is on a compilation album of Chicaog House. Now I'm wondering if this version is the same as one of what I see listed on the 12" as the Club Mix, Instrumental, and Radio mix. I'll check. I have that LP and the 12".

[djyoavb]

K. Alexi- All for Lee-sah
Blaze- if you need a friend
Suburban Knight- the art of stalking
Rhythim is Rhythim - KAOS
Chip E- it's house
Lil Louis- video clash
Mark Kinchen remixes
Model 500- No UFO's

[darrow]

I thought I'd add

Blake Baxter - When We Used To Play

[djyoavb]

a guy called gerald- blow your house down
808 state- pacific 202
Kato- Disco-Tech

[ December 02, 2003, 10:50 AM: Message edited by: djyoavb ]

[upliftdisco365]

Originally posted by darrow:

Blake Baxter - When We Used To Play This one holds a very special place in my heart, man.

I'd have to add:

Dont Lead Me - ??
Hurricane - Grace Jones
Face It - Master C&J
How I feel - ??
This love was made for two - Michael Watford
Inspiration - Arnold Jarvis

[djyoavb]

Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by darrow:

Blake Baxter - When We Used To Play This one holds a very special place in my heart, man.

I'd have to add:

Dont Lead Me - ??
Hurricane - Grace Jones
Face It - Master C&J
How I feel - ??
This love was made for two - Michael Watford
Inspiration - Arnold Jarvis </font>[/QUOTE]Dont Lead Me -Terry Baldwin featuring Paris Grey

[Nick_G]

Can You Feel It-Fingers Inc.

Reasons To Be Dismal?-Foremost Poets

I Feel Love-Donna Summer (I know it's not really house but if it came out today it'd be classed as trance/techno)

The Climax-BFC

Losing Control-DBX

Altered States-Ron Trent

Someday-Ce Ce Rogers

The Poem-Bobby Konders feat. Mutabaruka

R-Theme-R-Tyme

The Theory-UR

Acid Tracks-Phuture

Does Not Compute-Blake Baxter

R U Hot Enough?-Virgo

Popcorn-Hot Butter

It's A Cold World-Jamie Principle

B-Cause-Jump Street Man (a wonderful deep house tune from Marshall Jefferson)

Blue Monday-New Order

Madness-Terry Hunter

A New Day-Round Two feat. Andy Caine (not as early but a perfect synergy of Chicago deepness and Basic Channel minimalism)

[DJ Shellac]

Originally posted by darrow:
I thought I'd add

Blake Baxter - When We Used To Play Still one of my all time favorites

[The Real Dragonfly Jones]

I vote for Tears.

[ramar]

hmmm. not so easy...

Black Dog - Virtual
Innerzone Orchestra - Bug In The Bassbin
Arthur Russel - In The Light Of A Miracle
Rude Movements - Sun Palace
Cybotron - Clear
Blaze - Directions pt1
or
Alexande Hope - Wonderland

those are fo sure IMO.
RMR

[däp]

the lil louis albums

[KBig]

Great Thread... graemlins/beerchug.gif

E2-E4 definitely
Electribe 101- Talk with myself... (One of my fav's)
John Rocca -Move (almost anything he did but especially)
Erythmics-Here Comes the Rain
A Groove-(cant remember the guy who did this Funky Jungle track )
Lisa Fischer-Save Me
Feel The Drive- Doctors Cat
Chico- I need to go away


SO Much Music!!! :eek:


Lil Louis- Do You Love Me...!!!!

Visage- Fade To Gray

Night Shift- Trance Dance

[darrow]

KBig, I'm loving your signature.

[KBig]

Thanks Darrow... but its oh so true...

also:

Melodies...
Jeanie Harris- Just Another Man...
Casa De X
Just Listen
Pride- both versions
Do You Dream-Carlton
Too Shy Shy- Kajagoogoo... *Im such an 80's kid*
Voices Inside My Head- The Police *Baseline is one of the all time best*
Snake- Bar- Kays!!!!
Spasticus Artisticus

Chez Chez Le Femme'- Dr Buzzard
oooh.. yeah can and
Heartbreak hotel- The Jacksons

[Dj Alex]

Mr Fingers - Amnesia
Neal Howard - To Be Or Not To Be
Ruodolpho - Sunday Afternoon
Twice Of Love - 24 hrs From Culture
Liz Torres - Mindgames
Man Called Adam - Techno Powers :D

Peace Alex.

[dj c-los]

Ahead of it's time?
I'm judging this on the fact that these cuts made producers go back to the lab and fatten up their production skills.
On the production tip...

1. Let the Music Play - Shannon
2. I Remember What You Like - Jenny Burton
(flipside "Players"...oooweeee!)
3. Breakers Revenge - Arthur Baker
4. Percolator - Cajmere (played out track but started a new production trend)
5. Mystery Girl - on IHR (i think that's the label)

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EDITING!
Just realized the thread said "House Tracks."
I named a couple non-house tracks

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[ December 03, 2003, 01:46 PM: Message edited by: clos7 ]

['Magic' Juan]

How I Feel was Lil Louis. Mystery Girl was Fantasy Club. CLASSICS!!!

magic_juan graemlins/snoopy.gif

[E-Phi]

Originally posted by Dj Alex:
Ruodolpho - Sunday Afternoon
Alex, I forgot all about this record. I will be digging this out later today graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Forgot to add "Shine" Kriss Coleman.

[ December 03, 2003, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: E-Phi ]

[djezmike]

" You Used To Hold Me" Ralphi " Give It To Me" Bam Bam

[Austin/Dallas]

Early house cuts ahead of their time

Aretha Franklin-"Rock Steady"
Sly/The Family Stone "Family Affair"
Patti Labelle "Spirits In Me"****
"Soul Makussa"
"The Horse"
These come to mind at this time

[Deani]

Thousand fingered man - Candido
KCYC EP's (Strictly)
Relativety - BT (Deep Dish)
eletric circus - common
Nervous Track - Nu Yorican Soul
You Can Do It Baby - Nu Yorican Soul
Basement Jam - Wayne Gardiner
Club Kidds (Nervous)
Runnin - Pharcyde (Jay Dee)
Toch me baby - Static (Strictly) Todd Terry mixing ragga with house way before it was in fashion)

I will be back with some more later!

[darrow]

Originally posted by Deani:
Thousand fingered man - Candido
KCYC EP's (Strictly)
Relativety - BT (Deep Dish)
eletric circus - common
Nervous Track - Nu Yorican Soul
You Can Do It Baby - Nu Yorican Soul
Basement Jam - Wayne Gardiner
Club Kidds (Nervous)
Runnin - Pharcyde (Jay Dee)
Toch me baby - Static (Strictly) Todd Terry mixing ragga with house way before it was in fashion)

I will be back with some more later! don't tell me I snoozed on an early Wayne Gardiner release! What label is Basement Jam on?

[Deani]

its on nervous on the same ep as
i need you so much might be called basement track...I will check later

[darrow]

Originally posted by Deani:
its on nervous on the same ep as
i need you so much might be called basement track...I will check later hmmm...are you talking about the 12" EP with I Need You So Bad by Track Masters?

[kev]

Kraftwerk's "Computer World" album. I find it pretty amazing that a record practically 20 years old can still sound futuristic!

[djezmike]

" I Feel Love" Donna Summer " The Chase" Giorgio Moroder"

[Deani]

Originally posted by darrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deani:
its on nervous on the same ep as
i need you so much might be called basement track...I will check later hmmm...are you talking about the 12" EP with I Need You So Bad by Track Masters? </font>[/QUOTE]found it darrow, got a little muddled with the track names:

TRACKMASTERS

A - COME ON DO ANYTHING (2 MIXES)
B - I NEED YOU SO BAD (2 MIXES)
THE BASEMENT JAM

NERVOUS # 38 1992

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by IIBS:
Kraftwerk's "Computer World" album. I find it pretty amazing that a record practically 20 years old can still sound futuristic! That record is 22 years old man.I remember hearing that lp for the first time.Blown away.

[darrow]

Originally posted by Deani:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by darrow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deani:
its on nervous on the same ep as
i need you so much might be called basement track...I will check later hmmm...are you talking about the 12" EP with I Need You So Bad by Track Masters? </font>[/QUOTE]found it darrow, got a little muddled with the track names:

TRACKMASTERS

A - COME ON DO ANYTHING (2 MIXES)
B - I NEED YOU SO BAD (2 MIXES)
THE BASEMENT JAM

NERVOUS # 38 1992 </font>[/QUOTE]ah ok...yes! The Basement Jam is...ummm...the jam! I forgot all about that one. I still play I Need You So Bad.

[matthew]

house before house:

stevie wonder - race babbling (1979)
syncbeat - music (1983)
new muzik - 24 hours from culture part 2 (1980)

[SMOOTH87]

Originally posted by DJ Shellac:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by darrow:
I thought I'd add

Blake Baxter - When We Used To Play Still one of my all time favorites </font>[/QUOTE]I second that!!! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Anderson Soares]

My vote goes to Jazz Documents "Secret Code".
I played this song the past weekend and while the track was playing I was thinking exactly how ahead of its time this track was.
Nice to see Big Will is into it too...
And to the MAW Mix for Mondo Grosso "Souffles H".
One of my favorite tracks of all times.

[JAMES74]

Acid Thunder by Fast Eddie this is a masterpiece of acid house you gotta hear the new remake...just as HOT!!!

[JAMES74]

Acid Thunder by Fast Eddie this is a masterpiece of acid house you gotta hear the new remake...just as HOT :D !!! ;)

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
[QUOTE]

Dont Lead Me - ??
This is by Paris Gr(e?)ay


Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
[QUOTE]
Face It - Master C&J
Now this is some timeless sh8 right here....I was at a party last week and the dj dropped this and a friend and I was discussing how C&J must have been high when they did this gem....pure genius...this is a good tune when you are in the party and stright and even better when you are high....all that Master C&J was ahead of it's time..."living for the City", "Mama's Boy", "I can't get Enough", "Fantasize Me", and my all time favorite "When you hold me"(I could be wrong on the exact name, I own it and only remember colors)....that might be one of the best all time tripping record.

I also think that Altered State record was ahead of it's time and the BlueJean record with the wild birds sounds....

more....

"You Don't Know"
Billie's "Nobody's business"
Eddie Grant's "Nobody got time/Time Warp" and "California Style"
"Powerline"
ESG "Moody"....always get the asses moving...never fail!
"Music is the Answer"...Colonel Abrams
"Dancing in Outer Space"....you know they were in outer space when they made that.
"Plasti Dreams" JayDee..
any one of the Blaze hits....
"Voices in My Mind"...MAW

so many....

[ December 09, 2003, 08:21 AM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by Anderson Soares:

Nice to see Big Will is into it too... does this really matter? When did he become an authority...I missed the memo...

....funnest post....

[liL Ray]

oh I for got...

"I work Hard to Love you...honey(Treat Me Right)"....Karen Anderson...produce by John Robinson...R.I.P.

.....when you hear this in a party, you know you are at a party and in for some serious, serious pain the next morning....must be dropped at the right time in the night.....

[Anderson Soares]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Anderson Soares:

Nice to see Big Will is into it too... does this really matter? When did he become an authority...I missed the memo...

....funnest post.... </font>[/QUOTE]It doesnt matter, Lil Ray...
It was just a coincidence since I played the same track 2 weeks ago and was feeling it in the same way.

[matthew]

Originally posted by Dj Alex:
Mr Fingers - Amnesia
Neal Howard - To Be Or Not To Be
Ruodolpho - Sunday Afternoon
Twice Of Love - 24 hrs From Culture
Liz Torres - Mindgames
Man Called Adam - Techno Powers :D

Peace Alex. Alex, check out 24 hrs from culture pt 2 by new muzik (on the b-side of 'the planet doesn't mind' 12", 1980). for my money it's an even better version.

other ahead of their time records

stevie wonder - race babbling
syncbeat - music
kikrokos - life is a jungle

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by liL Ray:

"Voices in My Mind"...MAW

so many.... The simplicity of this song makes this such a timeless track. I recall the first time I heard this on WBLS and that damn bassline was overwhelming. Towards the end of the song, the drum patter was something that I hadn't heard from any producer during or before that time. One of those few gems in which Kenny and Louie's personal input into the song complimented eachother flawlessly!!!!

Peace

[liL Ray]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:

"Voices in My Mind"...MAW

so many.... The simplicity of this song makes this such a timeless track. I recall the first time I heard this on WBLS and that damn bassline was overwhelming. Towards the end of the song, the drum patter was something that I hadn't heard from any producer during or before that time. One of those few gems in which Kenny and Louie's personal input into the song complimented eachother flawlessly!!!!

Peace </font>[/QUOTE]My best memory of this song was at a AfterLife Party on Crosby street...the space hotter than hell(paint actually sweating from the walls), and this song blaring over the sound system with that bass busting out of those double 18 bass bottoms, me coming up out of some split, loosing my mind, only to see Little Louie coming down the hallway, entering the party with this hugh smile of bewilderment on his face.....priceless...

[Querck]

Originally posted by djezmike:
" I Feel Love" Donna Summer " The Chase" Giorgio Moroder" Huh! As I was about to mention Glenn Underground's "I feel dub". Now this is way ahead of its time, and it still sounds incredible.