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dj c-los
04-16-2008, 08:41 AM
Hi!
I was wondering:
1. when someone has a good cardio workout what do you suggest to eat afterwards? i see some people eat protien bars. i would say eat some food but wouldnt you just gain the calories back? what do you suggest?

2. same thing with a weight lifting workout. snack a certain food afterwards?

i guess im asking because i dont wanna gain back what i just burned off. but i also dont wanna walk around hungry.

thanks for your time! :thumbsup: :respent:

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 08:48 AM
Hi!
I was wondering:
1. when someone has a good cardio workout what do you suggest to eat afterwards? i see some people eat protien bars. i would say eat some food but wouldnt you just gain the calories back? what do you suggest?

2. same thing with a weight lifting workout. snack a certain food afterwards?

i guess im asking because i dont wanna gain back what i just burned off. but i also dont wanna walk around hungry.

thanks for your time! :thumbsup: :respent:


overall you have about 2 hours to get the best absorption of your food after a workout...

if you don't have time for a full meal, a protein bar or shake with at least 25-30 grams of protein will do ya just fine :)

dj c-los
04-16-2008, 08:55 AM
overall you have about 2 hours to get the best absorption of your food after a workout...

if you don't have time for a full meal, a protein bar or shake with at least 25-30 grams of protein will do ya just fine :)

thanks. :thumbsup:

Myron
04-16-2008, 09:04 AM
I'm going to take a break from writing this paper and go for my workout then I'm going to have a protein drink, eat breakfast (eggs, broccoli, strawberries, and raisins) then back to this paper.

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 09:31 AM
i'm so psyched some people are getting some benefit from my little tips :)

they really are simple!


keep the questions coming :)

Bill Blake
04-16-2008, 09:34 AM
i'm so psyched some people are getting some benefit from my little tips :)

they really are simple!


keep the questions coming :)

This shit is ruining the board.

kara
04-16-2008, 09:36 AM
fuck that! this board needs these types of conversations!

have you SEEN some of the pictures posted on here?

:tongueout:

(whenever i work out i'm always starving right after ... i try to not eat anything and the hunger usually passes, but damn if i ate right after i'd take down 3 meals at once ...)

richierich
04-16-2008, 10:15 AM
For those that wanna bulk up a bit and do weight training..what would be the best foods to eat??

I'm talking Evander Hoyfield type shit..

Bill Blake
04-16-2008, 10:16 AM
For those that wanna bulk up a bit and do weight training..what would be the best foods to eat??

I'm talking Evander Hloyfield type shit..

Food: steroids

richierich
04-16-2008, 10:19 AM
Food: steroids

bwahahaha!! no but seriously roids give me gas...

travy
04-16-2008, 10:21 AM
For those that wanna bulk up a bit and do weight training..what would be the best foods to eat??

I'm talking Evander Hloyfield type shit..

hard boiled eggs

Myron
04-16-2008, 10:36 AM
hard boiled eggs

I just came back from my workout and I'm about to have five on them in a few minutes.

richierich
04-16-2008, 10:37 AM
I just came back from my workout and I'm about to have five on them in a few minutes.

I hope you live alone...

Pang
04-16-2008, 10:39 AM
I hope you live alone...

heheheh. . .

Myron
04-16-2008, 10:40 AM
I hope you live alone...

No (although I wish I did, less drama) but I don't plan to venture out of my room until I get to a certain point in my paper (it's due today and I'm stuck at a certain part).

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 10:43 AM
For those that wanna bulk up a bit and do weight training..what would be the best foods to eat??

I'm talking Evander Hoyfield type shit..

bulking up requires 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....

that's ALOT of chicken, protein shakes, lean beef, turkey and fish

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 10:45 AM
::shakes fist:: (http://www.birdsnest.com/sounds/common_fart.wav)
"Get off my lawn you kids!!!"

fixed. :biglaugha:

Myron
04-16-2008, 10:52 AM
bulking up requires 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....

that's ALOT of chicken, protein shakes, lean beef, turkey and fish

That's what I'm trying to do (hence the five eggs) sometimes I succeed in meeting that requirement some days better than others.

richierich
04-16-2008, 11:24 AM
bulking up requires 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight....

that's ALOT of chicken, protein shakes, lean beef, turkey and fish

Thanks..

Sean G
04-16-2008, 11:29 AM
Loka, I have a question too, gotta take advantage of the free advice...


When doing cardio workout in the morning, is it it best to eat before (how long before) or after or both and what are the ideal foods to eat for energy. Does the same apply to evening cardio workouts. Cheers. :)

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 11:34 AM
Loka, I have a question too, gotta take advantage of the free advice...


When doing cardio workout in the morning, is it it best to eat before (how long before) or after or both and what are the ideal foods to eat for energy. Does the same apply to evening cardio workouts. Cheers. :)


you should eat something before a morning workout...something small though..like some fruit & half a protein bar...in the morning you're basically running on fumes, and if you dont get a little sugar in you - you may not feel you can make it through the workout


evening - depends...if you feel hungry before a workout or 'too empty' listen to your body and have a lil somethin...but if you ate the right amount of lunch you should be fine without anything before...


i can't workout if i'm hungry. in fact i can't do anything if i'm hungry lolol

dirtie blonde
04-16-2008, 11:43 AM
It's actually a myth that you need a lot of protein to bulk up. High protein diets are not good for you, regardless of how much you are lifting or working out.

http://students.washington.edu/careuw/faq_protein.pdf

http://www.euroveg.eu/evu/english/news/news002/meatless_muscle.html

Now, I am not saying everyone should be vegan or vegetarian, but watch the protein. Too much can be really harmful and your body can't process it anyway. People's perspectives with protein and body buidling/excercising really need to change.

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 11:51 AM
It's actually a myth that you need a lot of protein to bulk up. High protein diets are not good for you, regardless of how much you are lifting or working out.

http://students.washington.edu/careuw/faq_protein.pdf

http://www.euroveg.eu/evu/english/news/news002/meatless_muscle.html

Now, I am not saying everyone should be vegan or vegetarian, but watch the protein. Too much can be really harmful and your body can't process it anyway. People's perspectives with protein and body buidling/excercising really need to change.

i've been a competitive athlete as well as a trainer for 25 years. start your own thread for dissenting and vegan/opinions & discussion okay? the intent of the thread is for people to ask for advice..i'm not here to debate you.

protein isnt harmful.

it's not a myth, i've personally done it, and work with clients daily in various stages of athletic capability. your pdf is for average people doing average things. MOST people do not eat the RDA of protein to start with.

when you build 10lbs of muscle on your body, and bench press your bodyweight x2 with the rda of protein you let me know.

MYOR
04-16-2008, 11:53 AM
i've been a competitive athlete as well as a trainer for 25 years. start your own thread for dissenting and vegan/opinions & discussion okay? the intent of the thread is for people to ask for advice..i'm not here to debate you.

protein isnt harmful.

it's not a myth, i've personally done it, and work with clients daily in various stages of athletic capability. your pdf is for average people doing average things. MOST people do not eat enough protein to start with.

MEOW!!

**runsway

btw I actually got up early the other day and boiled two eggs..

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 11:59 AM
MEOW!!

**runsway

btw I actually got up early the other day and boiled two eggs..

woohooo!

lolol, :rofl:let the vegans start their own fitness thread. i dont have time.

and fwiw, most people here dont have time to eat 5 meals a day and do what it takes to lead a healthy vegan lifestyle...it's easier now, but basic protein requirements for general life, and athletic life are very very different things.


i'm alowing people to pick my brain and i'm not here for dissenting opinion in any of my fitness threads...those debates need to happen elsewhere.

travy
04-16-2008, 12:26 PM
thanks again for doing this loka... my question is how do i target certain areas for fat loss without going too far in others. i've lost a lot of weight overall since changing my diet and joining a gym, but still have lingering love handles issues. but, at the same time, my face and forearms are looking a little thin so i want to keep losing fat but don't want to look too emaciated or ripped. should i focus on mid section exercises and cut back on cardio? or decrease reps and increase weight in my strength training?

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 12:41 PM
thanks again for doing this loka... my question is how do i target certain areas for fat loss without going too far in others. i've lost a lot of weight overall since changing my diet and joining a gym, but still have lingering love handles issues. but, at the same time, my face and forearms are looking a little thin so i want to keep losing fat but don't want to look too emaciated or ripped. should i focus on mid section exercises and cut back on cardio? or decrease reps and increase weight in my strength training?


there's no such thing as spot reducing...so you can't target fat loss from one area vs, fat loss from another...fat is burned off as energy through your circulatory system - the more efficient your muscles are at heating up, and performing whatever your doing, the more fat loss you can expect...but there's no way to make sure it comes off from one place.

getting stronger will usually yield more fat loss. and basically you'll see fat loss the quickest in places where you have the least fat to start with, such as your face and forearms...

depending on your age love handles become harder to get rid of over the age of 35.

i can't say i have a solution to keep your face looking more full, you could make sure you're getting enough water and unsaturated fats in your diet..that's the only time i've seen people start to look gaunt...when they're a bit dehydrated and they've cut out too much good fat (like olive oil)

dirtie blonde
04-16-2008, 01:50 PM
Wow, some people just can't handle any opposing information. I really don't care what people do. I just thought I would provide another perspective and some FACTS to back it up so that people could inform themselves. Sorry.

meow meow hiss hiss

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Wow, some people just can't handle any opposing information. I really don't care what people do. I just thought I would provide another perspective and some FACTS to back it up so that people could inform themselves. Sorry.

meow meow hiss hiss

go ahead, and do that in a thread that doesn't say FAO:djloka

got a question about getting in shape? cool. i'll answer it based on my professional experience (which is VAST and i am also published), and real time daily experience with athletes, normal everyday people and some people you may have heard of.

you aren't on top of what i've been doing and why this thread even exists...wanna insert random unrelated info and plug your own agenda? please do it elsewhere.

i'd like to keep the thread focused on questions and answers ....

again, feel free to start your own thread.

and if i have to meow and hiss too keep it focused, i'll do it.

there's no need for confusion of the discussion in this thread.

Moksha
04-16-2008, 02:24 PM
just because the title of the thread has your name in it doesn't mean you get the right to quash alternative points of view in it.

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 02:37 PM
just because the title of the thread has your name in it doesn't mean you get the right to quash alternative points of view in it.


got a fitness question, or do you just need some attention?:biggrin:

Monny JcIntosh
04-16-2008, 02:47 PM
Purporting to offer scientific advice, which is therefore open to debate, or just a quack?

Moksha
04-16-2008, 03:08 PM
got a fitness question, or do you just need some attention?:biggrin:

there's only one person on this thread who seems to be in need of attention...

Anyway, overall you seem to be giving out good, useful advice. And any discourse that gets people excited about living more healthful lifestyles is a good thing.

I'm just sayin' - this ain't the Loka Show, no matter how VAST your experience (and no, you don't have to repeat your credentials yet again). It's a public messageboard, and dirtie was on-topic and contributing to the discussion. A shame to see that you are not even open to new perspectives entering the discussion...

That said... you are probably right. Putting on muscle is gonna be easiest with lotsa protein.

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 03:27 PM
there's only one person on this thread who seems to be in need of attention...

Anyway, overall you seem to be giving out good, useful advice. And any discourse that gets people excited about living more healthful lifestyles is a good thing.

I'm just sayin' - this ain't the Loka Show, no matter how VAST your experience (and no, you don't have to repeat your credentials yet again). It's a public messageboard, and dirtie was on-topic and contributing to the discussion. A shame to see that you are not even open to new perspectives entering the discussion...

That said... you are probably right. Putting on muscle is gonna be easiest with lotsa protein.

no she wasn't on topic...and you aren't either. i've offerd up the opp'ty for people whom i feel are my friends to take advantage of my expertise. this thread isnt about anything other than that. i didnt even start it...someone else did, with a clear intent.

my open ness about other health topics will/can be seen in other threads where i'm not addressed as a professional. i only state my qualifications because everyone MAY NOT know.


notice i dont start threads debating fitness issues? i dont have time/nor inclination for that. this is usually a respite from my work.

you just wanted to say it aint the loka show. feel better now?

now do you have a fitness question or not?

Sean G
04-16-2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks Loka.

BHouse
04-16-2008, 04:29 PM
For those that wanna bulk up a bit and do weight training..what would be the best foods to eat??

I'm talking Evander Hoyfield type shit..

Peanut Butter.

martino
04-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Hey Loka. I've always wanted to know what's the difference of doing weights quickly as opposed to going slowly?

I'm not sure what speed I should be doing curls for example.

What are the benefits of going slow compared to going as fast as possible?

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 06:48 PM
Hey Loka. I've always wanted to know what's the difference of doing weights quickly as opposed to going slowly?

I'm not sure what speed I should be doing curls for example.

What are the benefits of going slow compared to going as fast as possible?


when all is said and done...and the results are gotten...imo...there's not much difference at the general fitness level. for the applications of general fitness, and basic staying in shape i prefer faster over slower, and more efficient over less efficient. so that means, for most people the faster you move the more things you can get into the time you have to train...

there's real reasons to train for speed. there are all kinds of applications in sports, and fwiw, in life...to be able to be fast. being fsat requies thinking fast etc etc

i personally find that slower is better when initially learning. but...to increase intensity you add weight, then sets, then speed...

there are the fans of super slow training, but i find it mind numbingly dull, and if you train slow...uhhhh...you are slow. your body does what you teach it to. if you teach your muscles to contract slowly...they will...

you can get results with the slow training...but in what i've done with it, it's not as efficient as far as results/per time spent... and what i usually deal with daily...no one has time for 'slow'.

so it will come down to your personal preference and how much time you have to train and what you're looking to get out of your training.

martino
04-16-2008, 07:05 PM
when all is said and done...and the results are gotten...imo...there's not much difference at the general fitness level. for the applications of general fitness, and basic staying in shape i prefer faster over slower, and more efficient over less efficient. so that means, for most people the faster you move the more things you can get into the time you have to train...

there's real reasons to train for speed. there are all kinds of applications in sports, and fwiw, in life...to be able to be fast. being fsat requies thinking fast etc etc

i personally find that slower is better when initially learning. but...to increase intensity you add weight, then sets, then speed...

there are the fans of super slow training, but i find it mind numbingly dull, and if you train slow...uhhhh...you are slow. your body does what you teach it to. if you teach your muscles to contract slowly...they will...

you can get results with the slow training...but in what i've done with it, it's not as efficient as far as results/per time spent... and what i usually deal with daily...no one has time for 'slow'.

so it will come down to your personal preference and how much time you have to train and what you're looking to get out of your training.

Thanks :) I probably should have stated that I practice martial arts so I was wondering if it helped to do at least some of the sets quick to maintain my speed if i get bigger. You've been helpful thanks

DJ Loka
04-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Thanks :) I probably should have stated that I practice martial arts so I was wondering if it helped to do at least some of the sets quick to maintain my speed if i get bigger. You've been helpful thanks

it's not exactly EASY to get bigger, (may not be helpful either) you can get stronger & faster and get harder and more dense by increasing your weight and decreasing the time it takes to get a set done, or get more reps in the same amount of time with heavier weight.

this is freaking painful...but fun in a sick kind of fitfreak way lololol

try it and let me know how it goes....if you need more detail, send a pm...wth more specifics.

martino
04-16-2008, 07:19 PM
it's not exactly EASY to get bigger, (may not be helpful either) you can get stronger & faster and get harder and more dense by increasing your weight and decreasing the time it takes to get a set done, or get more reps in the same amount of time with heavier weight.

this is freaking painful...but fun in a sick kind of fitfreak way lololol

try it and let me know how it goes....if you need more detail, send a pm...wth more specifics.
awesome! thanks will follow up on this