Dress code?

[Red D]

Hi peepz,

Can't help but noticing that the place where the DHP-events in New York are held do not allow people to wear sneakers.
It's the same thing in some venues in Europe, what do y'all think of that?

I personally think it is utter snobbery and very very stupid, and I always love to play at places like that so I can go in my jeans short and with my most worn sneakers, they can't deny their guest dj entrance now can they?

RD

[Martin Red]

Yeah man.

Of course shall speak from a UK perspective

I don't like that either, as you know it's prevelant in brum also.

Tis like going back to the mid eighties when most door people had a strict policy, the whole house/ acid house scene mainly stopped the mecca club dress rules . Alot of people came out the mecca clubs to dance in fields warehouses in what ever clothes where comfortable to dance. Then Mecca clubs changed policy as they where losing punters by the boat load. after the criminal justice bill, Mecca clubs took it over again, now after all these years it is going back to the way it was mid eighties. Bollocks to this, revolution time.

As you know I am popular with doorman, favourite line..

"what are you gonna learn looking at my feet except I bought some shoes recently, look into my eyes you'll find out alot more about me than my feet.

Doorman look of pure confusion, does not compute, my brain hurts.

[mdpm99]

Discrimination period!

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Note: This does not have to do directly with the DHP party.....rather the establishment where it is being held.

If it were me hosting this event, I would find a place where discrimation is not practiced and people were not judged by "their footwear." What would be next? .......the color of your socks????
What matters is that a person need only to act as a human being.

[ August 01, 2003, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[David Le C]

I hate people with green socks... ;)

[Red D]

I know David, this is in no way a diss of the DHP-initiative, heaven forbid! ;)

We had a party at one of the bigger clubs in Belgium a couple of months ago, and they have a reputation of selecting people 'fit' for their club, one of the first (and only) things I wanted in writing was 'no door policy' on our night, and at first reluctant they came to their senses and found out that even people with the Woodstock-look were big spenders at the bar and looked cool when dancing to the music...

I prefer people being themselves, it helps them relax and gives the party a very good atmosphere.

RD


Originally posted by david mancuso:
Discrimination period!

:(

d

Note: This does not have to do directly with the DHP party.....rather the establishment where it is being held.

If it were me I would find a place where discrimation is not practiced and people were not judged by "their footwear." What would be next? .......the color of your socks????

[Ben.]

they use it to keep the troublecausers out in manchester... sankeys soap seem to be the only place to have got it right though. their dress code is simply "no scallies"

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[David Le C]

But regarding this subject;
Dress codes are mostly the consequence of the strange logic of club- or bar-owners, they see it as an easy way to keep a certain crowd out of their establishment, which is completely stupid 'cause it eventually blows up in their face anyway...

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by David Le C:
I hate people with green socks... ;) Greetings David Le C:

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally."

- WC Fields

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[mdpm99]

Originally posted by David Le C:
But regarding this subject;
Dress codes are mostly the consequence of the strange logic of club- or bar-owners, they see it as an easy way to keep a certain crowd out of their establishment, which is completely stupid 'cause it eventually blows up in their face anyway... True.....I've seen situations where "$200.00 pair of shoes ($100.00 per shoe) did not make a difference when it came down to whether a person had good manners or not.

Have a great day David.

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[upliftdisco365]

Originally posted by Ben.:
their dress code is simply "no scallies"

smile.gif Do translate for us Yanks. Scallies?

[Dj Pat]

It's anger's me to see some young fresh out of high school kid tell anyone that they dont fit the club's decor.
It wont stop until a club is sued for that type of Discrimination. How can you not be a risk to the pubic, but be a risk to the club's decor?
Dj Pat
Physical Heat.

[mdpm99]

"I prefer people being themselves, it helps them relax and gives the party a very good atmosphere."

RD

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Amen

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[Dj Pat]

Originally posted by Blue:
It's anger's me to see some young fresh out of high school kid tell anyone that they dont fit the club's decor.
It wont stop until a club is sued for that type of Discrimination. How can you not be a risk to the pubic, but be a risk to the club's decor?
Dj Pat
Physical Heat. Spell correct: Public, not pubic.
Sorry, it's friday ;)

[Ben.]

Originally posted by upliftdisco365:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
their dress code is simply "no scallies"

smile.gif Do translate for us Yanks. Scallies? </font>[/QUOTE]somebody actually made a site about them which might explain better than me: www.scallycentral.com (http://www.scallycentral.com)

not letting scallies into the clubs pretty much = not letting gangs in... it was people like this that were responsible for the demise of the hacienda and a lot of other clubs in manchester... now they just get turned away at most places.

[David Le C]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by David Le C:
I hate people with green socks... ;) Greetings David Le C:

"I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally."

- WC Fields

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d </font>[/QUOTE]Greetings Sire,

"Every generalization is dangerous, especially this one. "

- Mark Twain

:D

Enjoy your day!

[mdpm99]

Many, many moons ago.......a Lofter signed up a friend who just happened to be a police officer. That week there was a discussion with my co-workers/friends -- "what r we 2 do?" We can't add this person to the mailing list because of the type of work they were doing. I thought about it for a moment or two and then added them to the LOFT mailing list. To this day I have never regretted it and knew I did the right thing.

If I start with not allowing a person to get on the mailing list because of the above, then I am discriminating....plain and simple. I don't care where it starts from -- it is a bad germ. There are good germs too, ya' know what I mean?

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[ August 01, 2003, 07:42 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[Red D]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Many, many moons ago.......a Lofter signed up a friend who just happened to be a police officer. That week there was a discussion with my co-workers/friends -- "what r we 2 do?" We can't add this person to the mailing list because of the type of work they were doing. I thought about it for a moment or two and then added them to the LOFT mailing list. To this day I have never regretted it and knew I did the right thing.

If I start with not allowing a person to get on the mailing list because of the above, then I am discriminating....plain and simple. I don't care where it starts from -- it is a bad germ. There are good germs too, ya' know what I mean?

graemlins/cool_shades.gif

d Marlene Dietrich, she's a good Germ, er...German :D

RD

[rexdale brawler]

Originally posted by Ben.:
they use it to keep the troublecausers out in manchester... sankeys soap seem to be the only place to have got it right though. their dress code is simply "no scallies"

smile.gif Correct me if I'm wrong but ain't "scally"
a derogatory term for Irish descendants in England? I'm sure I've heard it used in that context. Yob might be a better term if you wish to edit.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Red D:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
Many, many moons ago.......a Lofter signed up a friend who just happened to be a police officer. That week there was a discussion with my co-workers/friends -- "what r we 2 do?" We can't add this person to the mailing list because of the type of work they were doing. I thought about it for a moment or two and then added them to the LOFT mailing list. To this day I have never regretted it and knew I did the right thing.

If I start with not allowing a person to get on the mailing list because of the above, then I am discriminating....plain and simple. I don't care where it starts from -- it is a bad germ. There are good germs too, ya' know what I mean?

graemlins/cool_shades.gif

d Marlene Dietrich, she's a good Germ, er...German :D

RD </font>[/QUOTE]There are good Germs and there are bad Germs. No reference to the word german in any way what so ever.

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PPs. Marlene Dietrich - we r talking Mack Truck here....she's cool.

[ August 01, 2003, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[Red D]

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[RX]

Originally posted by David Le C:
But regarding this subject;
Dress codes are mostly the consequence of the strange logic of club- or bar-owners, they see it as an easy way to keep a certain crowd out of their establishment, which is completely stupid 'cause it eventually blows up in their face anyway... exactly...you KNOW that when a plugger states "no gymshoes, no caps", that they are trying to avoid the thug element...it's a lot harder to run from the police in stacey adams... graemlins/rofl.gif

[Ben.]

Originally posted by rexdale brawler:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
they use it to keep the troublecausers out in manchester... sankeys soap seem to be the only place to have got it right though. their dress code is simply "no scallies"

smile.gif Correct me if I'm wrong but ain't "scally"
a derogatory term for Irish descendants in England? I'm sure I've heard it used in that context. Yob might be a better term if you wish to edit. </font>[/QUOTE]its got nothing to do with irish people as far as I know... you might be thinking of the term "pikey"

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Red D:
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[Jacques de Doozu]

one thing i always disliked about certain clubs or parties, r even the party scene in general. often the so-called door policy is just a rumour.
i like diversity in the music, and in the crowd.
strange thing in europe(dunno stateside)is that the word 'house' (including all the affiliated bs terms) attracts a rather snobby audience. i'd say dance and get dirty.
but where do you draw the line between club policy and the tendency of a crowd to dress in a certain way? it's not always directly the club's fault that they attract a type of audience in the firts place. but the people who throw the party can add alot to this, f.e making a certain type of flyer (graphically), using certein terms and words in promoting the party, entrance prices,...the people who come are the people you attract i guess.
peace, good topic btw

[jimmymack-2000]

I looked at that Scally Central site. It seems to me people are hating on those kids because they're poor and not working, which is kinda low. I'm no fan of ignoramuses that stand in a group, blocking the sidewalk and spitting everywhere, but kids will be kids...**** I sound old.

[Grey Marl]

i've always thought the music provided the best door policy as in filtering out undisirables (sp graemlins/all_coholic.gif )but on the other hand this is probably an incredibly naive perspective that i should give some more thought

i've always thought why should i be able to go to a rock or jazz concert - not that i've attended either anyime recently - dressed however i want but have to go through this absurd charade with clubs?

[Red D]

Originally posted by Tom D:
one thing i always disliked about certain clubs or parties, r even the party scene in general. often the so-called door policy is just a rumour.
i like diversity in the music, and in the crowd.
strange thing in europe(dunno stateside)is that the word 'house' (including all the affiliated bs terms) attracts a rather snobby audience. i'd say dance and get dirty.
but where do you draw the line between club policy and the tendency of a crowd to dress in a certain way? it's not always directly the club's fault that they attract a type of audience in the firts place. but the people who throw the party can add alot to this, f.e making a certain type of flyer (graphically), using certein terms and words in promoting the party, entrance prices,...the people who come are the people you attract i guess.
peace, good topic btw True dat, when I look at the image of our parties we try to display through our flyers, website and texts, we always try to have a certain classy feel. I always love parties in nicely designed venues, some fresh fruit, a glass of champagne, beautiful girls in high heels, the lot, because I like the way that clashes with the gritty and dirty feel of our music. But that doesn't exclude anyone from entering and dressing like he or she wants to. I like class but I'm not the one to impose it on anybody, because class has as much to do with attitude than with a dress. It's not because the lights are on that somebody's home...

RD

[Ben.]

Originally posted by jimmymack-2000:
I looked at that Scally Central site. It seems to me people are hating on those kids because they're poor and not working, which is kinda low. I'm no fan of ignoramuses that stand in a group, blocking the sidewalk and spitting everywhere, but kids will be kids...**** I sound old. a lot of scallies aren't poor, its a lifestyle decision they take, they will have neighbors from the same background who aren't scallies at all.

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by Ben.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by rexdale brawler:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ben.:
they use it to keep the troublecausers out in manchester... sankeys soap seem to be the only place to have got it right though. their dress code is simply "no scallies"

smile.gif Correct me if I'm wrong but ain't "scally"
a derogatory term for Irish descendants in England? I'm sure I've heard it used in that context. Yob might be a better term if you wish to edit. </font>[/QUOTE]its got nothing to do with irish people as far as I know... you might be thinking of the term "pikey" </font>[/QUOTE]Pikey, never heard that term before Madonna's posh husband did the film: Snatch, Irish gypsy where always known as Tinkers around these parts, as in Tinker, Tailor, soldier, spy...

Scally I believe is a shortened term for SCALLYWAG which means rascal rapscallian etc.

At least that's the way I have always seen it as, I had a night where I actually put "no scalywags" on the flyer graemlins/rofl.gif

If it was an Irish dig, I would know :D


P.S:- I first heard the term scally out of Liverpool

[ August 01, 2003, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

[Grey Marl]

is it just me or is the beige corduroy suit an enduring classic?

[Jolyon]

I won't go anywhere that won't let me wear sneakers...

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
I won't go anywhere that won't let me wear sneakers... I think you can wear them inside the party but not at the door.

d

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jolyon:
I won't go anywhere that won't let me wear sneakers... I think you can wear them inside the party but not at the door.

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[Mah'chew]

No trainers and sportswear is a rubbish rule (no doubt forced on promoters by club owners in many cases), who gives a toss, the last thing you need is the room filled with white shirts, black suit trousers and a pair of shoes - it's so Ritzy's..

It takes all kinds to make the party...break down these restrictions, NYC rise up and break free from the Banana Rupublic catalogue..

Go in Nike tonight!!!

[ August 02, 2003, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: Mah'chew ]