Can you steal one's girlfriend ? [Archive]

Huey P. Freeman

09-23-2003, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by lyot:
After going through an emotional evening I was wondering what your thoughts were on the following : Is it yes or no allowed to steal another one's partner ..I do mean if you are like really really in love with someone, and not just for simple pleasure..Do you think one has to restrain himself when confronted with such feelings or not ? I'm having trouble with this and I would like to see your opinion for clarification...

greetings No. She was going to leave anyway. Noone can be stolen. Ther has to be something lacking for that person to have left. The other person is irrelevant.

JMJ

09-23-2003, 04:07 PM

Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ

Huey P. Freeman

09-23-2003, 04:08 PM

I will say however it is wrong to attempt to "steal" one's mate if you have some type of relationship with that person.

DOTSmusic

09-23-2003, 04:09 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kev

09-23-2003, 04:10 PM

There are two people involved in that situation. She left willingly.

alex zen

09-23-2003, 04:10 PM

just remember what goes around comes around. do it anyways.

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:11 PM

I don't understand why tu te prends la tete Lyot : SHE WILL DECIDE FOR HERSELF !!!

Caution : It's illegal to make love to a girl under 18 years old in your country if you don't have the written agreement of her parents.

liL Ray

09-23-2003, 04:13 PM

Part of the man credo is to not go out with your boy's ex...so stealing your boy's girl is totally out of the question...it might even be a trap with you as the bait... graemlins/nono.gif

kev

09-23-2003, 04:16 PM

You also have to keep in mind that the same could happen to you, too.

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Part of the man credo is to not go out with your boy's ex...so stealing your boy's girl is totally out of the question...it might even be a trap with you as the bait... graemlins/nono.gif I can understand your idea Ray, but what if she's Lyot life love. Does he have to restrain to some rationnal thoughts ?
I'm living with my wife whom I stoled from a guy. She was not living the best with him and I've been clear about my love for her since day one.
We now have 2 kids and a wonderful loving life.

It's like experiencing life makes your beliefs explode in one instant... Love is the asnwer !

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by IIBS:
You also have to keep in mind that the same could happen to you, too. To that I would respond that if you're the one, she won't see anyone except you, even if you're far from her. All other guys will seems sympathic, for the best they can be, but not attractive.

lyot

09-23-2003, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ hmmm.. And what about all these people that do not marry anymore but just have an 'unspoken contract' with each other.. I mean, isn't a relationship with someone more then just a paper ?

My main problem actually is : Isn't the fact that they are together and have a (unspoken) contract reason enough not to let yourself go and try to steal that partner.Because, if you value a relationship for itself, it's obvious that it should be both ways (not only when you are having a relation, but also towards other couples' relations)? This meaning that one should respect the contract others have with each other, and one should not try to make things difficult for someone else..I'm thinking also of the whole guyfriend classification Bold Soul made here last week..

very confused

And

09-23-2003, 04:22 PM

Do what your heart wants to do Lyot - Just be mindful about how you go about getting what you want. Will people be hurt? If she has left her boyfriend and likes you, what's your worry about?
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Okay just read what you posted ..
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Something else to think on ... You are already presenting what you want to do as "stealing," not "going for the one I love" ... If you think you're stealing ... then er what do you think you should do?

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the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ hmmm.. And what about all these people that do not marry anymore but just have an 'unspoken contract' with each other.. I mean, isn't a relationship with someone more then just a paper ?

My main problem actually is : Isn't the fact that they are together and have a (unspoken) contract reason enough not to let yourself go and try to steal that partner.Because, if you value a relationship for itself, it's obvious that it should be both ways (not only when you are having a relation, but also towards other couples' relations)? This meaning that one should respect the contract others have with each other, and one should not try to make things difficult for someone else..I'm thinking also of the whole guyfriend classification Bold Soul made here last week..

very confused [/QUOTE]You didn't sign any contract with them Lyot. If they have a contract, they'll see if they really signed it with their heart.
Unless you're a sexy mother****er and the game is skewed.

Rob.J

09-23-2003, 04:26 PM

I'm with Ray on this one.........

Wait it out, another time, another place...when and if "they" are done........just not now.

cheers

rob

JMJ

09-23-2003, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ hmmm.. And what about all these people that do not marry anymore but just have an 'unspoken contract' with each other.. I mean, isn't a relationship with someone more then just a paper ?

My main problem actually is : Isn't the fact that they are together and have a (unspoken) contract reason enough not to let yourself go and try to steal that partner.Because, if you value a relationship for itself, it's obvious that it should be both ways (not only when you are having a relation, but also towards other couples' relations)? This meaning that one should respect the contract others have with each other, and one should not try to make things difficult for someone else..I'm thinking also of the whole guyfriend classification Bold Soul made here last week..

very confused [/QUOTE]Granted, I said what I felt, but I also respect the fact that the other person is in a relationship, so that makes for a tough decision. Better you than me......JMJ

djklas

09-23-2003, 04:27 PM

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djklas

09-23-2003, 04:28 PM

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djklas

09-23-2003, 04:29 PM

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djklas

09-23-2003, 04:30 PM

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Rob.J

09-23-2003, 04:31 PM

klas - you alright ?

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by Rob.J:
I'm with Ray on this one.........

Wait it out, another time, another place...when and if "they" are done........just not now.

cheers

rob Robj, Ray, what about taking our lifes in our own hands ?!!!
WE only can decide, not our culture, not our social habits, nothing that we've been taught, only the heart prevails !

Just not agreeing :D

lyot

09-23-2003, 04:35 PM

i want to make clear that I'm having troubles with the theoretical issue.. I started dreaming after seeing the picture of that girl, and knowing that she has a boyfriend, I wandered what would be the right thing..I just finished my own relationship, and since then, it feels like i've lost moral ground on lots of things...I want to see some things clear again, and this is one of those issues..

I haven't figured out what you can do but at this stage, I probably think that if someone has a relation you can't or should not actively involve yourself in a hunt on that person, even if you are really in love with that person..Passive involvement , I do not know..It's difficult..

But when that other person, involved in a relation, takes the initiative, things get really complicated..

I've gotta sleep over this a bit more.. be back tomorrow morning.. it's getting to late here..

Klas, i've sent you an email .. Take care bro!

thanks for all the input ! It's really appreciated

djklas

09-23-2003, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Rob.J:
klas - you alright ? graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

Javier Drada

09-23-2003, 04:38 PM

Look here is the deal, if it's meant to happen it's going to happen regardless of what you or anyone else may think or say. Don't try to manipulate the situation go with the flow and let your heart be your guide, Heart not penis not head, heart... Believe me I know. My wife, when I met her she had a boyfriend and I had a girlfriend but our connection was so tight we hooked up anyways, it gets better... Along the way we split up because we were not sure what the deal was so she hooks up with her ex and gets pregnant, we had plans to get a place together with a friend, nothing is going on between us because she was trying to work it out with the dad. We lived together as friends for a year and a half. After that we got back together and got married. I have been with my step daughter since birth and have two additional kids of our own. My step daughthers dad is a good friend of mine today. Allot of weird shit happend along the way but we never lost that connection and today we are happy as can be. Trust in what I am saying. I knew she was the one from day one, it was just a matter of timing...

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by djklas:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Rob.J:
klas - you alright ? graemlins/jpshakehead.gif [/QUOTE]So what's the problem klas ?

jurren

09-23-2003, 04:40 PM

i'd say stay out of that trap, but i'm probably not the best person to give advice on this topic as i've experienced it myself 2 years ago. fell in love, she was in a relationship for 7 years, she fell in love with me, they broke up, she fell in love with someone else. i was f**ed up for a long time.
thought i'd done everything right, didn't try to 'steal' her or anything, acted like a real gentleman.

you could also ask yourself if you would like to have a girlfriend that cheats?

the crackhouse

09-23-2003, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Javier Drada:
Look here is the deal, if it's meant to happen it's going to happen regardless of what you or anyone else may think or say. Don't try to manipulate the situation go with the flow and let your heart be your guide, Heart not penis not head, heart... Believe me I know. My wife, when I met her she had a boyfriend and I had a girlfriend but our connection was so tight we hooked up anyways, it gets better... Along the way we split up because we were not sure what the deal was so she hooks up with her ex and gets pregnant, we had plans to get a place together with a friend, nothing is going on between us because she was trying to work it out with the dad. We lived together as friends for a year and a half. After that we got back together and got married. I have been with my step daughter since birth and have two additional kids of our own. My step daughthers dad is a good friend of mine today. Allot of weird shit happend along the way but we never lost that connection and today we are happy as can be. Trust in what I am saying. I knew she was the one from day one, it was just a matter of timing... Truth !
Thanks you Javier

djklas

09-23-2003, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by idancetoomuch:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by djklas:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Rob.J:
klas - you alright ? graemlins/jpshakehead.gif [/QUOTE]So what's the problem klas ? [/QUOTE]http://deephousepage.com/smilies/tapedshut.gif

Tony Cano

09-23-2003, 05:04 PM

Lyot:

let things between them end naturally. be her friend, but DO NOT get involved romanticly. no matter how difficult this may be or how much your urge is to be with her.

if you were meant to be together, it will happen. by you not giving in, she will want you more and respect you for that.

this may be difficult for you to handle short term, but will benefit you in the long run. trust me.

regards,
tc

Rob.J

09-23-2003, 05:14 PM

ivanjb

09-23-2003, 05:15 PM

You could be her excuse to herself. I've been burnt like that before.

Also, it can cause huge trust issues between you and she so wait until they're done naturally. She should take time to regroup and be alone.

I say don't do it.

ngeso

09-23-2003, 05:36 PM

a lot of typical 'guy' excuses saying "it takes two to..." and "she was going to leave anyway..." trying to somehow justify stealing some other guy's girl.

i used to be the thief's thief. i use dto not give a sh*t about other people at all. i used to consider a whole bunch of guys in relationships to be irrelevant. did the whole nine. ****ed up a lot of people's relationships, etc.

i suggest taking this one on a two-step basis:

step one: humble yourself and stop imagining that you got the depth, authenticity, validity and quality of some other person 's relationship all figured out (i.e. stop the "he/she don't really love her/him like i could blahzay blahzay")

step two: imagine yourself to be the person getting f*cked over this way - and i'm not talking about someone you consider to be random or deficient or whatever - i'm talking about imagining YOU!

that sh*t is weak. and if you do that sh*t anyway, then you deserve to have that sh*t rebound on you double-time.

my two. ngeso.

ngeso

09-23-2003, 05:38 PM

lyot, we have a saying: other mothers have beautiful daughters too.

jpsf

09-23-2003, 05:38 PM

from my experience, those who cheat...cheat. she or he will cheat with you and then on you. of course, this isn't always true...just my experience that this happens most of the time.

but beyond that, what about respect? not only are you disrespecting your friend to satisfy your own desires you are disrespecting her need to clear up her own issues. and when you look in the mirror in the mourning you have to ask yourself what kind of person are you. have a good answer.

being attracted to your freinds girl/boyfriend is natural. you are friends because you have things in common...of course you are going to see things about their partners that attracts you.

but DO THE RIGHT THING. everybody needs time after one relationship before getting into another one. if you don't wait...you are just asking for trouble. wait, do it the right way.

and how many times have you been attracted to someone and then later not be able to image what attracted you? there is a difference between infatuation and love.

don't be weak...it ain't worth it.

can you tell i walked in on my ex girl in bed with a so called "friend" of mine? it's a horrible and despicable thing to whitness. she called me years later asking me to forgive her because she still couldn't get over the guilt. i was surprised, i thought we had talked it over way before that and that she knew i had forgiven her. people mess up, it hurts, i can only answer for my actions...but you have to forgive others before you can heal yourself.

can't you just see the emotional hell this can cause? why would you want to open that door? it ain't worth it.

Leslie

09-23-2003, 07:16 PM

Eric Clapton/George Harrison = Layla - those that know the story understand - I am still amazed that they remained friends.

This is trouble, let the chips fall where they may through a natural course of events. Don't set events into motion.

gabriel

09-23-2003, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ that should be edited to 'unless she's not her own person'

marriage vows do not instill a property right.

däp

09-23-2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Part of the man credo is to not go out with your boy's ex...so stealing your boy's girl is totally out of the question...it might even be a trap with you as the bait... graemlins/nono.gif agreed. there are too many women out there. why fvck up a friendship over something that's not guaranteed to last, if thats part of this scenario.

secondly, you can't "steal" someone who doesn't want to be stolen.

Jamie 3:26

09-23-2003, 07:23 PM

selektachang

09-23-2003, 07:24 PM

yea definitely give it time, also never assume things, be open and upfront about how you feel! and see how she feels about it, i mean if she is attracted to you then obviously the relationship she is in is not working for her anymore, unless she just wants some one night stand. Just communicate things freely and openly, if she is really interested in you then most likely she will break the other relationship up to have the freedom to explore new avenues. you have to ask yourself what you really want.
also im not taking into consideration the women out there that are in open relationships or marriages, thats a whole nother scenario. sometimes this whole dating thing gets to damn complicated, if people were allowed to love who they feel like loving then we would not have this problem! but people got to act like you can own love, when love is freedom itself in pure form..maybe one day we will learn..

JMJ

09-23-2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ that should be edited to 'unless she's not her own person'

marriage vows do not instill a property right. [/QUOTE]Never implied as property, but to be somone's wife or husband does instill posession bound by law. No need to edit.....JMJ

Mah'chew

09-23-2003, 07:27 PM

Lyot, don't go there, you're emotions and feelings are probably being amplified by the situation...Stay cool and keep your friend in mind :(

Tony Cano

09-23-2003, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Tony Cano:
Lyot:

let things between them end naturally. be her friend, but DO NOT get involved romanticly. no matter how difficult this may be or how much your urge is to be with her.

if you were meant to be together, it will happen. by you not giving in, she will want you more and respect you for that.

this may be difficult for you to handle short term, but will benefit you in the long run. trust me.

regards,
tc El Romantico.... graemlins/rofl.gif

He ain't got this wisdom for nuthin'....Brother,you have been droppin bombs lately.Teach!!! [/QUOTE]Jamie - you ain't lieing. I got grey hair and bags under my eyes to prove it.

tc

Querck

09-23-2003, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by Tony Cano:
Lyot:

let things between them end naturally. be her friend, but DO NOT get involved romanticly. no matter how difficult this may be or how much your urge is to be with her.

if you were meant to be together, it will happen. by you not giving in, she will want you more and respect you for that.

this may be difficult for you to handle short term, but will benefit you in the long run. trust me.

regards,
tc Well, well, well, becoming friends is a dangerous thing. When you become friends with a woman, it is then really difficult to expand the relationship and become lovers. At least here in the U.S., the last thing you want is a woman thinking of you as a friend. Then you know all your hopes are OVER! Maybe in Europe it's different?

I would wait a little and scope out the relationship between this woman and your friend. If it's tight, forget about it and move on. If you sense it's not all that, stay close but don't become to friendly, and your chance may come soon.

quentin2bott

09-24-2003, 12:12 AM

Lyot, you've got work to do !
Girls do come and go, friends are meant to last.
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gabriel

09-24-2003, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
Unless she's married, you're technically not stealing anybody's anything......JMJ that should be edited to 'unless she's not her own person'

marriage vows do not instill a property right. [/QUOTE]Never implied as property, but to be somone's wife or husband does instill posession bound by law. No need to edit.....JMJ [/QUOTE]possession is evidence of property. that which you possess is your property, unless it's stolen etc.

so...edit stands smile.gif

[ September 24, 2003, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: gabrielloveshouse ]

the crackhouse

09-24-2003, 02:12 AM

Lyot,
in your words :
if you feel you're going to STEAL someone's gf, then you think you're a thieft, and you can't say you're in love for this girl if you believe that you will steal it. That means you'll have to cheat, and if it's not you in front of her, she will not love you but your lies.

But if you feel really in love and just used this words cause they were the first who came out of your head, don't go into questions and conquer her. She will give you her answers, and a couple can defend itself if it's a real couple.
Love should never be suffocated.

3 times, some men tried to seduce my wife and she got a little far from me and closer to them. It was me who was the bastard : how come that she did have eyes for someone else ? Because I wasn't her man enough. And that's not love.

A woman and a man in couple shouldn't be open to love with others, or it's not a couple. So why open questions about the consequences ? You're all adults, and should be able to say no.

If you confuse her, well she may want something else than her actual loving situation.

And I will say : friends are good, but love's for life.
Friends are here for fun, but they don't sleep with you and there are some things you will never tell them cause they can't understand. Friends are not here to fulfill the missing pieces in your love relation.

You live with your lover, and you're gonna live your life with her whatever the price is. Don't wait for friends, just go for love anytime.
What if a friend of yours and your lady disagree and go into fighting ? I hope you'll be on your lover side ! Even if you feel she's wrong !

Don't go into questionning, and follow your love feelings. And if you feel that your loneliness send you to this lady, be sure that it's real love, and not just envy.

my 2 cents, and sorry guys if I disagree, but I think love is the only real thing in this life.

Insert pseudonym here

09-24-2003, 02:32 AM

You cannot steal anything when it comes to "emotions"... Now your ethical quagmire may be the manner in which you "woo" someone, especially if they are already in a relationship.

Coveting someone in another relationship is not a good thing, because as we all know the grass always looks greener on the other side.

To know love is to be loved, you may love the very essence of someone but the greatest thing is to be loved by someone. Sometimes we love people and then when we are in relationships with them, we realized that it was their essence and the possibility of love we coveted and not really the true person.

You cannot truly love someone until you see them at their worst, the utter bottom, all the flaws ... cause its too easy to love someone when they are at their best!

Open your heart to the possibility of just LOVE ITSELF (not love from a particular person) because surely as you are yearning after someone, there is someone under your nose that is yearning after you... and it is better to have someone commit themselves to loving you and proactively want to love you
....

than to wait for an unrequited love.

You feel me? graemlins/conf44.gif

lyot

09-24-2003, 02:47 AM

again, thanks for all the advice and reactions guys..It's really appreciated .

I think I've come to the conclusion that the best thing is not to go into any kind of action that might endanger other persons relationships, out of respect for what 'a relation' stands for. Indeed, what comes around, goes around, like some mentioned here. But I think that it is probably impossible to become just friends with that person, standing at the sideline 'waiting till her relation ends' ...Or it might be possible, but I would probably be torn apart by contradictory feelings and I do not see how you could both become friends with the girl and her partner. Flirting would most definitly becoming problematic after a while, I suppose.. Yet, if you value her and her relation (which I think one should do ) , that's not right.

Efab, could you elaborate a bit more the 'Open your heart to the possibility of just LOVE ITSELF ' statement ?

greetings

the crackhouse

09-24-2003, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by Insert pseudonym here:
You cannot steal anything when it comes to "emotions"... Now your ethical quagmire may be the manner in which you "woo" someone, especially if they are already in a relationship.

Coveting someone in another relationship is not a good thing, because as we all know the grass always looks greener on the other side.

To know love is to be loved, you may love the very essence of someone but the greatest thing is to be loved by someone. Sometimes we love people and then when we are in relationships with them, we realized that it was their essence and the possibility of love we coveted and not really the true person.

You cannot truly love someone until you see them at their worst, the utter bottom, all the flaws ... cause its too easy to love someone when they are at their best!

Open your heart to the possibility of just LOVE ITSELF (not love from a particular person) because surely as you are yearning after someone, there is someone under your nose that is yearning after you... and it is better to have someone commit themselves to loving you and proactively want to love you
....

than to wait for an unrequited love.

You feel me? graemlins/conf44.gif Efab knows what love is !

Insert pseudonym here

09-24-2003, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by lyot:
Efab, could you elaborate a bit more the 'Open your heart to the possibility of just LOVE ITSELF ' statement ?

greetings No problemo...

In life we often imagine love in terms of loving a particular person, we define great-life-altering-love in terms of a romantic relationship. We make romantic choices based on this ideal of the "perfect person" and subconsciously you take this model of the "perfect person" and you attach the emotion of LOVE to it.

That's where the trouble begins!

LOVE IS AN ENIGMA, it cannot have parameters set for it or be define by us.

When you open yourself to the possibility of "just love"... you are opening yourself and your heart up to take love as it comes to you. (Thus it may not come from who you want it to, but it will come and it will be right on time when you truly need it!)

Love doesn't always come in the form of a romantic relationship, sometimes it comes in the form of friendship. Sometimes its renewing a relationship with a family member. Sometimes its renewing the love you have for yourself. Even, deeper sometimes it is renewing the love you have for life, itself.

Your next great re-introduction of LOVE may not be from the person who are attracted to... it may be from the person that God wants you to have it from! I know right, I'm "holy rolling". (But as one who has loved and now has found one of the greatest loves... trust me, I'm not pulling your leg on this one!) Your next great infusion of love may be from a friend who inspires you to get deeper in your music.

It's the package that you are looking at Lyot and the possibility of loving that particular person, but true love cannot be controlled by mere mortals, just open your heart to love, clean out your heart so you can receive it and IT WILL COME TO YOU.

If it is truly love you want, then it is love you will get... but if you define love in terms of a person, then if its the person you want ... then it is the person you will get... but that doesn't mean that they WILL LOVE YOU OR GIVE YOU THE LOVE THAT YOU NEED.

Hope I am making sense.
~Efab!

If you want to know about opening your heart, then here's a bit of help for you...

Psalms 51:10-12

10 Create in me a clean heart, O God, and put a new and right spirit within me. 11 Cast me not away from thy presence, and take not thy holy Spirit from me. 12 Restore to me the joy of thy salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit.

the crackhouse

09-24-2003, 04:03 AM

I think you know when you found love when in the presence of another person, you always feel great, have your mind clear, and always want to talk about thoughtsand passions that are important for you.
I don't know if this feeling has to be shared by the two at the beginning when you fall in love, but I think the situation is well going when you feel comfortable each time you see the other, like (s)he brings clarity to everything you can feel and want.
I don't know about god, cause i don't follow the bible, but I think the feeling hits you and is easily "reconaissable"...

Efab is right when she says that you have to prevent yourself from the "idea of love", you can in love for an ideal of love and just want to be in love or feel love, but it's only an envy, and not the concrete feeling of a change in you.
Everyone wants tenderness, but love is not only sweet and gentle.

Jolyon

09-24-2003, 04:32 AM

From personal experience...don't go there.

Wait, let them break up and then take it slowly. If you rush into it quickly it could well fall apart once the novelty wears off.

Grey Marl

09-24-2003, 04:57 AM

pretty moronic question actually

sr hadden

09-24-2003, 07:11 AM

Lyot, why still ask theoretic questions about practices you have already performed (probably many times) in the past...

peace

liL Ray

09-24-2003, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by Grey Marl:
pretty moronic question actually this is not how to constructively add to a topic....pretty moronic...

lyot

09-24-2003, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by sr hadden:
Lyot, why still ask theoretic questions about practices you have already performed (probably many times) in the past...

peace read the whole topic..

dj c-los

09-24-2003, 07:35 AM

"Sloppy seconds" ain't my thing.
graemlins/nono.gif

Grey Marl

09-24-2003, 07:39 AM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Grey Marl:
pretty moronic question actually this is not how to constructively add to a topic....pretty moronic... [/QUOTE]It's my contribution to the discussion and I consider it to be quite valid and constructive. As equally insightful as your own response.

liL Ray

09-24-2003, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Grey Marl:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Grey Marl:
pretty moronic question actually this is not how to constructively add to a topic....pretty moronic... [/QUOTE]It's my contribution to the discussion and I consider it to be quite valid and constructive. As equally insightful as your own response. [/QUOTE]ok...

Martin Red

09-24-2003, 11:41 AM

(inside joke) at times like this I wish Lee Mitchell posted on here

graemlins/rofl.gif

My own view coincides with Ray and Rob J and TCano. In my own words

I don't like any friends being flirtatious or having hidden intent with my women - and I walk the talk - non of this message board angel - real life pest.

Therefore, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night doing the same to others

When it comes to friends : - treat them well, don't do to them what you wouldn't like done to yourself ! (one time I would quote the bible - do unto others.....)
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Now, this is just some comments i have which are not realted to Lyot's question

I am a born city boy, and growing up this was the code, break it and face the music, serious kickings to be had.

Now, my close friends who grew up in the burbs, E.G Solihull etc, will find it perfectly fine to covet etc, shit man : - by the time a girl is 16 everyone in the village has had a piece. You may meet a friends new girl from some country village like Knowle and she has been out with everyone of his best friends (some at the same time), I think this is ****ed up ! and probably explains why so many people in that village look the same. To me the girl ain't got no self respect or neither has the man.

Also shows that being brought up properly isn't just about sending your kids to an expensive school as some of these people have some ****ed up ways that I willl not elaborate on.
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back to the point at hand Lyot,

How many girls in the world HAVEN'T you met yet ?

more than you have met ?

Some corners haven't been turned yet mate.

As kool and teh Gang said: - "Fresh - Fresh - Exiting"

My advice, don't shit on your own door step.

kara

09-24-2003, 11:45 AM

people dont own people

who knows how long you have with someone, ever

just be a lover ... smile.gif

lyot

09-24-2003, 11:50 AM

My advice, don't shit on your own door step. [/QB]i know Martin, but this was not about a girl of a friend..I did that once in my lifetime, if I remember correctly, and it was a shame I did it (cf. Sr Haddens remark) ..I wouldn't consider doing that again..

Thanks all for the input.I've learned quite some things about myself today..About time too..

drilla

09-24-2003, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by kara:
people dont own people

who knows how long you have with someone, ever

just be a lover ... smile.gif remember that time i was spanking your ass you were yelling "drilla owns my ass!"

that was hot!

kara

09-24-2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by matthew j:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kara:
people dont own people

who knows how long you have with someone, ever

just be a lover ... smile.gif remember that time i was spanking your ass you were yelling "drilla owns my ass!"

that was hot! [/QUOTE]you should have stolen me from joeb long time ago ... oh well

hugs w/ass grabs!

[ September 24, 2003, 12:55 PM: Message edited by: kara ]

drilla

09-24-2003, 11:56 AM

graemlins/bighug.gif

jpsf

09-24-2003, 12:54 PM

let's not fool ourselves into validating unhealthy behavior in the name of love. besides, love is often confused with lust, infatuation, and ego gratification. things done out of love are things like forgiveness and understanding even when you felt you've been wronged. things like getting it on with your friends girl are the things of lust, infatuation, and ego gratification.

manfred

09-24-2003, 01:49 PM

like my friend always says...
"if she ain't got no ring,
it don't mean no thing"

that being said, would you really want to be with a girl who left her man to be with another?

jpsf

09-24-2003, 02:14 PM

like my friend says:
if you ain't got no class
try any peice of ...

nev m

09-24-2003, 02:38 PM

Hey Lyot!

I was gonna say I was with Ray, then Rob said it, then I was gonna say I was with Rob, and Ray, then Martin said it.

What I will say is a good lookin mofo like yourself doesn't want to be weighing yourself down with this. I reckon more people than would care to admit have gone through what you are, and if you don't go down the road it can't get any worse can it.

By the way I hear your boys parties are ace for picking up new girls! ;)

nev m

09-24-2003, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by manfred:

that being said, would you really want to be with a girl who left her man to be with another? [/QB]Another good point.

Alanda Marquette from DiscoLadyLand

09-24-2003, 02:41 PM

If she did to him, she'll do it to you

Jolyon

09-24-2003, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by DiscoLady:
If she did to him, she'll do it to you Very true.

Mack-Williams

09-24-2003, 02:47 PM

You steal my girl friend I don't care who it is. I am going to **** you up or your car. Which ever one I can get too first. A bat to the knees or the windshield.

lyot

09-24-2003, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
You steal my girl friend I don't care who it is. I am going to **** you up or your car. Which ever one I can get too first. A bat to the knees or the windshield. aren't you a Jehova Witness or am I wrong ?

Mack-Williams

09-24-2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
You steal my girl friend I don't care who it is. I am going to **** you up or your car. Which ever one I can get too first. A bat to the knees or the windshield. aren't you a Jehova Witness or am I wrong ? [/QUOTE]Not practicing, but if I was I would still **** you up and go to the Hall and tell the Brothers what I did and except the discipline.

lyot

09-24-2003, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by jpsf:
let's not fool ourselves into validating unhealthy behavior in the name of love. besides, love is often confused with lust, infatuation, and ego gratification. things done out of love are things like forgiveness and understanding even when you felt you've been wronged. things like getting it on with your friends girl are the things of lust, infatuation, and ego gratification. some nice words there jpsf.. I'm gonna take out some time to aks myself really what love is .. I've got the impression I do not really know very well.

greetings

nev m , next week there's another party of 'our boys' in Gent.. But i'll be going for the music.. ;)

Javier Drada

09-24-2003, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Jolyon:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DiscoLady:
If she did to him, she'll do it to you Very true. [/QUOTE]BULLSHIT... People do change...

lyot

09-24-2003, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
You steal my girl friend I don't care who it is. I am going to **** you up or your car. Which ever one I can get too first. A bat to the knees or the windshield. aren't you a Jehova Witness or am I wrong ? [/QUOTE]Not practicing, but if I was I would still **** you up and go to the Hall and tell the Brothers what I did and except the discipline. [/QUOTE]okay, it's all good.. graemlins/beerchug.gif

Mack-Williams

09-24-2003, 03:09 PM

Lyot that's one of the many things that I have learned in life never end an friendship because of a woman. Also,you never know how your friend will react. Where I come from folks will end your life for messing around or stealing their woman.

lyot

09-24-2003, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
Lyot that's one of the many things that I have learned in life never end an friendship because of a woman. Also,you never know how your friend will react. Where I come from folks will end your life for messing around or stealing their woman. well, i totally agree, but my initial question was not about stealing the partner of a friend..I would not consider that (although, as SR Hadden pointed out, I already did it one time before in my life) . The question was about stealing a girl from a guy I have never met.

greetings

[ September 24, 2003, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: lyot ]

Mack-Williams

09-24-2003, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
Lyot that's one of the many things that I have learned in life never end an friendship because of a woman. Also,you never know how your friend will react. Where I come from folks will end your life for messing around or stealing their woman. well, i totally agree, but my initial question was not about stealing the partner of a friend..I would not consider that (although, as SR Hadden pointed out, I already did it one time before in my life) . The question was about stealing a girl from a guy I have never met.

greetings [/QUOTE]My bad. Well if she is up for the taking go ahead. She might be about to end the relationship anyway if she is considering getting with you.

Friday

09-24-2003, 03:29 PM

In all honesty Lyot, there is no right or wrong answer here, just choices, choices that you can live with. Sometimes are desires, espeacially for someone can lead us into failing to see the real reason as to why you want this union. You have mentioned that you had finished another relationship recently and perhaps your desire to not be alone has fixated itself on someone that you think can fill a void that is within you.

I wish you luck with your choices because only you can make them. Advice is advice but understanding your true want is where your decision making should come from.

All the best

[ September 24, 2003, 04:30 PM: Message edited by: gf ]

lyot

09-24-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by lyot:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
Lyot that's one of the many things that I have learned in life never end an friendship because of a woman. Also,you never know how your friend will react. Where I come from folks will end your life for messing around or stealing their woman. well, i totally agree, but my initial question was not about stealing the partner of a friend..I would not consider that (although, as SR Hadden pointed out, I already did it one time before in my life) . The question was about stealing a girl from a guy I have never met.

greetings [/QUOTE]My bad. Well if she is up for the taking go ahead. She might be about to end the relationship anyway if she is considering getting with you. [/QUOTE]thanks for the advice, but I think the best option would be to show self restraint .. I need to find myself first before I start exploring other paths again..Self restraint is gonna be key..

greetings

gabriel

09-24-2003, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by kara:
people dont own people

who knows how long you have with someone, ever

just be a lover ... smile.gif ....not a fighter

jpsf

09-24-2003, 04:38 PM

there is a house tune i used to hear alot with the lyrics, "is it love or is it infatuation."

personally, i try to wait sometime after i get out of one relationship before i start another. too many emotions that need to be worked out. there is a girl out there who was really hurt because she thought we were in a rebound relationship and that i wasn't over my last girlfriend. and i had split up with my ex months before.

people accumulate issues along the way and need time to work them out. people need time to reflect and try to understand what went wrong or why things didn't work out or else those things are going to pop up again in the next relationship. a lesson will be repeated until it is learned.