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The Buddy Love Show

05-21-2008, 02:32 PM

The Buddy Love Show

05-21-2008, 03:01 PM

"Lay-ups are the most basic shot in basketball. Unfortunately, it does not get a lot of attention when people work on improving their overall game.

In a time now where fundamentals are slowly being forgotten and replaced with fancy show-boating moves, players need to remind themselves of the basic techniques when shooting to make themselves better scorers. In this article we will discuss just a few things associated that will help improve your overall game."

http://www.basketball-plays-and-tips.com/lay-ups.html

The Buddy Love Show

05-21-2008, 03:06 PM

THE MISS PATRICK EWING'S LAYUP-THAT-WASN'T WILL LONG BE DISSECTED AND DISCUSSED, NO MATTER HOW DISHEARTENING
BY VIC ZIEGEL
Sunday, May 28th 1995, 2:34AM
THE LAST SHOT in the last game. Patrick Ewing went up with the Knicks' season and came down with a bad case of not-this-year.
There are two scenes New York basketball fans may never forget.
Scene 1: Ewing drives to the basket. The ball leaves his right hand. It's going in . . . until it boinks against the back of the rim.
Scene 2: The big guy, having missed, is standing off to the side. He's staring up at the scoreboard, a hand on each hip. The Knicks are the same two points away. The clock is not a friend. Wasn't it Yogi who said it's over?
One more time. Ewing heard John Starks calling him. Couldn't see Starks. Kept going to the hoop. Derek Harper, who threw the perfect pass to Ewing, knew the center would be moving to the basket. Saw the ball come off Ewing's fingers and said, "I thought OT."
The Indiana shirts were barely in the picture . . . until the rebound.
Charles Smith was watching Ewing from the bench, Ewing drawing closer to the basket, Ewing by himself. "It was like the seas opened up," Smith said. "A millimeter from overtime. A millimeter off. Shocking."
He was talking about the team, the season, not Ewing. "To come up short like that, on a layup, it's baffling." Smith said.
The defeat, Harper wanted to believe, had nothing to do with Ewing. "God said no," Harper said. He said it more than once.
Mark Jackson was traded away to make sure the Knicks got a lot further than last Sunday. "One thing I know he (Ewing) can't do is finger roll," Jackson said.
"I thought he'd try to dunk," said Larry Brown. "He was between steps."
"One more step he could have jammed it," said Pat Riley.
"In hindsight," said the missee, "I probably should have tried to dunk it."
Talk, that's all we have left. A day later, the shot was too awful to keep bringing up. There were new questions. Riley questions: Will you stand, Pat? Or will you walk? Would we still be reading Anthony Mason's barber? Is Oakley too old to move? Smith too rich too move? Starks too cuckoo to move?
The answers are on the way. Until then, how about a little more talk about the play New York will be a long time forgetting: The Miss.
Here's what some basketball people had to say:
DOC RIVERS, the Spurs guard who, if things had worked out differently, might have been the one throwing the in-bounds pass to Ewing: "(The shot) is not as easy as people think. If Dale Davis wasn't there, (Patrick) would've made it. On TV, it looks easy. But with a 6-10 guy (Davis) jumping out at you, it makes you alter your shot. I felt awful. He's so classy. Patrick was doing things with his body banged up. I hope people remember that, and not just that last shot."
LOU CARNESECCA, the former St. John's coach who faced Ewing's Georgetown teams for four years: "I never thought, in my wildest dreams, I'd be rooting for this guy. It was a great move. He split the defense. His body completely protected the ball. A hell of a shot. People say dunk it. Hey, it's not that easy. You have to improvise on the moment. If he had dunked, they might have whacked him. He twisted his arm, the way you're supposed to. He had the right idea. One slight miscalculation. If he put it higher on the glass, it goes in. But sometimes it's just not meant to be. The shot was perfect, well-orchestrated. The right move, the right guy. Made me think, the operation was a success but the patien t died."
RALPH SAMPSON, the former center who hit a shot at the buzzer to beat Riley's Lakers in the '86 Western Conference Finals and is now an assistant coach with Rockford (Ill.) of the CBA: "Shocking wouldn't be the right word to use. The guy's a great player. In the heat of the moment, he ran a play to perfection. He had to create something and he did. So he missed a shot. Everybody misses a shot."
ELGIN BAYLOR, the Clippers general manager and a Hall of Fame player who could lay-up a medicine ball: "At that particular time, you should try to dunk. Go as hard as you can. It looked like he was avoiding the defensive player. Avoiding the foul and trying to get the layup. I'm sure he was surprised he was able to get in that deep, to penetrate as much as he did. He just wanted to get the shot off. You could see he was hurting, hampered by his injury. If he was 100%, it would have been a dunk. He would have gone to the basket much stronger. He was not the same Patrick Ewing. It was very apparent."
RED AUERBACH, who watched Ewing play in high school in the Boston area and was the cigar-smoking genius who coached the Celtics to nine NBA titles in 10 years: "What cost them the game, actually, was (Harper's) flagrant foul. A guy like Ewing, a shame it has to happen to him. It was the right play. When you're at home, you can play to tie. It's just as good. I think the Knicks would have won in overtime. Ewing was looking around. He definitely was looking to get fouled and when he went up there, his head was turned a little. And when he turned his head back, he didn't know what to do. He was so shocked that nobody touched him, it threw him off.
"He took his eye off the basket a fraction of a second. He got caught between the finger roll and the dunk. He wanted to drop it in or give it another ooomph and dunk it but he was a little too far away to finger roll. With a little spin you might get a good bounce. But when you finger roll, it's either in or out. You don't have any luck. It's gonzo."
PETE NEWELL, the former coach who gives NBA centers post-graduate work at his highly regarded Big Man's Camp in Hawaii during the summer: "I thought it was a remarkably good shot to get under the circumstances. He did everything right. He drove. He put the pressure on the defense. He ended up with a short shot, but not an easy shot.
"I think he was surprised he didn't get more of a physical confrontation. When you don't, and you're expecting to, that will sometimes make the shot more difficult. But you'll take your chances on that shot, that close to the basket, every time. It was soft enough and with any any luck at all the ball would have gone in. Many times it'll hit the rim, bounce another time, and go in. That one looked destined to go out.
"His body is moving toward the basket and that's what makes it difficult. The target is not a constant target. When your body is floating (to the basket), you have to factor in that you're moving laterally, the basket isn't. When you end up with a shot in the alley, it's almost an unnatural shot, an in-between shot, a driving lob.
"One of the problems in basketball today is that not many players practice that kind of shot. The big man doesn't in American basketball. In women's basktball, where they don't dunk, they can make those shots. That's because they practice it.
"At the NBA camp in Phoenix (for college seniors), we see them play for six days. Every one of them is trying to impress with the dunk. You see all varieties of dunks they've been led to believe it's an important part of the arsenal but you never see the shot we're discussing here. I always talk about it at my camp. This time, (Ewing's shot) gives me a better example."
BOB COUSY, one of the game's greatest playmakers and a Celtic Hall of Famer: "I thought if they got into overtime, they'd probably win. I was sad for Patrick because I think this year was his last shot at (the championship). Guys his size, they're so trained and regimented. They get within a foot, they don't shoot, they dunk. It's almost second nature.
"He did all the hard work to get it in there and all he had to do was slam that sucker. That surprised me more than the miss; that he didn't go for the slam. He did all the difficult work and he misses one he wouldn't miss in another 100 tries."
JONATHAN HALPERT, the basketball coach at Yeshiva University: "My visceral reaction was damn, why did it have to be Ewing? He's the ultimate team player, the ultimate warrior. Why him? The fifth game, their execution was horrendous and he made the shot. Here, the execution was perfect and he missed the shot. He wouldn't have been in that position if he hadn't been the hero two games before. His misery was the product of his greatness."
BILL WALTON, the Hall of Fame center who won two NCAA titles with UCLA and two NBA titles with Portland and Boston: "It's almost like the layup Kiki Vandeweghe missed in the 1980 NCAA championship game. A defender makes a stab at you away from the basket, you shuffle your steps a little, you pull up instead of taking a power jam. The Knicks gave that series away. You can't rely on making last-minute shots all the time. The way they shot free throws, Mason missing a wide-open layup, it's hard to criticize Patrick. He's finished so many of those big plays I don't think it's right to jump all over him for this one. I don't think he had the steps, the footwork for a dunk.
"It's a big man's game. It always comes down to (the center) being the hero or the goat. Shaq would never have dribbled it two times. Penny (Hardaway) would pass it to Shaq. 'Here, power it home.' There's not another center in the league (besides Ewing) who could do that kind of play. Maybe David (Robinson). Hakeem would have pulled up for a short shot. The up-the-middle layup is always the hardest one; it's got to be perfect. Coming in from side you can use the glass.
"Most guys, and I'm talking about over 95%, won't even take that shot. They'll be looking around. 'Not me, coach, don't look at me.' It wasn't like Patrick forced it or rushed it. He took all the time off the clock. He did everything he could. He just missed the shot. This is the kind of defeat that never leaves you. You never want to beat yourself. The rest of your life, it just gnaws on you."

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/1995/05/28/1995-05-28_the_miss__patrick_ewing_s_la.html

The Buddy Love Show

05-21-2008, 03:07 PM

DaveR

05-21-2008, 03:41 PM

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Smith ... Smith ... Smith ... Smith ... Legendary :rofl::rofl5:

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The Buddy Love Show

05-21-2008, 04:09 PM

I heard a story about a coach, who when asked what was the secret to winning basketball, simply walked across the court and made a layup

A layup is a nice, high percentage, shot.

Its a FUNDAMENTAL shot. Folks have learned how to shoot a layup from day 1 of basketball camp.

how many layups get missed by promoters?

DJ RON C

05-21-2008, 06:59 PM

...black folk and basketball. Why don't we just complete the stereotypes and give out a side of wings in BBQ sauce and some watermelon with this thread...

The Buddy Love Show

05-22-2008, 11:32 AM

...black folk and basketball. Why don't we just complete the stereotypes and give out a side of wings in BBQ sauce and some watermelon with this thread...

well

I could have used another analogy

Maybe i should have written on how one should master the fundamental openings revolving around d4 or e4 in order to lay the framework for a solid middle game and hence better prospects in the endgame

Or I might have spoken on how too many here attempt Nf6 without being fundamentally equipped to handle a difficult Hyper-modern opening (especially since many players dont develop their available resources properly to begin with - so how do they deal with the blockage created on the f file in this instance?) In addition, proper utilization of powerful organizational reserves (like the fianchettoed(sp) bishop) seems to be beyond the scope of the many do it yourself promoters on this board, and that also has a detrimental effect on their promotions

What say you?

The Buddy Love Show

05-23-2008, 04:38 PM

...black folk and basketball. Why don't we just complete the stereotypes and give out a side of wings in BBQ sauce and some watermelon with this thread...

just like I thought

now pass the sauce and get your face outta the melon cuz i'se hungry too