For Producers and Audiofiles out there, what Loudness has done to Modern Music

[GROOVE VICTIM]

This is an interesting video on how Modern Music is mastered compared to how it used to be.


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[Part Sixx]

Great post!
Been an ongoing debate about this among the Record Industry & recording engineers.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Makes you wonder when you listen to a track and the percussion is not as punchy as you would expect it to be. I know a couple of joints produced by Masters at Work that have no punch at all even though the music is on point.

Arnold Jarvis's "Life Goes on" and Kenny Latimore's "If I loose My women" are perfect examples.



Peace

[wiz247]

Makes you wonder when you listen to a track and the percussion is not as punchy as you would expect it to be. I know a couple of joints produced by Masters at Work that have no punch at all even though the music is on point.

Arnold Jarvis's "Life Goes on" and Kenny Latimore's "If I loose My women" are perfect examples.



Peace

Thanks for nailing this Groove. I had the Arnold Jarvis then sold it, I liked the Kenny Latimore, but always thought that both these tunes lacked something, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. I just knew they sounded kinda lightweight to put it simply.

[Free Russell]

There have been compromises and degradations in various parts of the production chains for a couple of decades now, since house started.

The difference in compression levels is only part of it. You've also got a large scale migration to very much more flexible but lesser sound quality production technologies all the way from keyboards to F/X to recording that's been happening since the mid-80s around the time house music started. The inadequacies relative to the old daze quality are being slowly addressed with vintage-type facsimilies, but it's taken decades.

[RJJNYC]

Took me ages to realize this is why mixing between older tracks and more recent downloads often doesn't sound right: the recent downloads have been smashtered like they describe in the vid. I always thought the whole point of high quality digital is that you can leave plenty of head room and have lots of dynamic range without compromising quality, but now everything is pushed to the limit. I moaned on the Wave forum a while ago about digital clipping on the WAV file of the Strictly Rhythm reissue of The Believers - Who Dares to Believe in Me.

This is a comparison of the audio files of My Jamaican Guy by Grace Jones, the first is from the original 1982 CD of Living My Life and the second is from the recent compilation The Compass Point Story. It's really sad.

http://scientitian.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/MJGIslandCD.jpg

http://scientitian.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/MJGStrut.jpg

[vic]

Took me ages to realize this is why mixing between older tracks and more recent downloads often doesn't sound right: the recent downloads have been smashtered like they describe in the vid. I always thought the whole point of high quality digital is that you can leave plenty of head room and have lots of dynamic range without compromising quality, but now everything is pushed to the limit. I moaned on the Wave forum a while ago about digital clipping on the WAV file of the Strictly Rhythm reissue of The Believers - Who Dares to Believe in Me.

This is a comparison of the audio files of My Jamaican Guy by Grace Jones, the first is from the original 1982 CD of Living My Life and the second is from the recent compilation The Compass Point Story. It's really sad.

http://scientitian.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/MJGIslandCD.jpg

http://scientitian.com/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/MJGStrut.jpg

This is something that I've been harping about for a while as well; ,and its not just exclusive to digital files, but some of the vinyl out there as well. Now, I know it has been tried before, but I figured I'd try "remastering" some of what I have. Sometimes, I get it right on point, and other times, I don't. But I do feel that I'm getting closer. In fact on the successful ones, the dynamic range is much wider, and I've managed to soften up the sound of some of the harsher files.

[djroc2u]

Makes you wonder when you listen to a track and the percussion is not as punchy as you would expect it to be. I know a couple of joints produced by Masters at Work that have no punch at all even though the music is on point.

Arnold Jarvis's "Life Goes on" and Kenny Latimore's "If I loose My women" are perfect examples.



Peace

kenny dope remix of peace pipe(palza recs.) has bleed through at the beginning of the song( i can send mp3 if you like to show you what i mean)

[GROOVE VICTIM]

What's so strange about this video is that before I even say it, I stopped "Normalizing" my productions through Sound Forge because I felt the need to not increase the volume in my songs. I was just listening to "The Best of Donald Byrd" CD on my way home from work and I wonder what type of re-mastering was done to the songs and how they compare to the original Vinyl.

[blackwax]

DAMB LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(but worth posting again)

[GROOVE VICTIM]

DAMB LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(but worth posting again)

ya think?

[blackwax]

yes LOL