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david_mancuso
06-12-2008, 03:30 PM
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/singing/
Hear the Sun Sing
Have you ever wondered what the Sun would sound like if you could hear it?
Our Sun lies 93,000,000 miles away, surrounded by the vacuum of space. Sound won't travel through space, of course. But with the right instrument, scientists can "hear" pulsations from the Sun.
The entire Sun vibrates from a complex pattern of acoustical waves, much like a bell. If your eyes were sharp enough, you could see a bell's surface jiggle in complex patterns as the waves bounced around within it.
Likewise, astronomers at Stanford University can record acoustical pressure waves in the Sun by carefully tracking movements on the Sun's surface. To do this, they use an instrument called a Michelson Doppler Imager (MDI), mounted on the SOHO spacecraft, circling the Sun 1,000,000 miles from Earth.
The Sun's acoustical waves bounce from one side of the Sun to the other in about two hours, causing the Sun's surface to oscillate, or wiggle up and down. Because these sound waves travel underneath the Sun's surface, they are influenced by conditions inside the Sun. So scientists can use the oscillations to learn more about how the structure of the Sun's interior shapes its surface.
The Sun's sound waves are normally at frequencies too low for the human ear to hear. To be able to hear them, the scientists sped up the waves 42,000 times -- and compressed 40 days of vibrations into a few seconds. What you'll be hearing are just a few dozen of the 10 million resonances echoing inside the Sun.
More info and etc:
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links at site:
Sounds of solar oscillations (in the AIFF format)
one mode (l=1,n=20, nu=2.94-3.0 mHz), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
three modes (l=0,n=21, l=1,n=20, l=2,n=20, nu=2.95-3.05 mHz), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
all low-degree modes (l=0,1,2, and 3), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
all three samples in one program with brief comments (AIFF).
picture of the sound at 2:02 (all_modes_f3c.jpg).
The sounds are obtained from 40-days of MDI disk-averaged data speeded up by factor 42,000.
old disco jock
06-12-2008, 03:42 PM
david never thought of the sound but have thought of what would happen if you tried to get close the scene from raiders of the lost ark -completely melt like those german guys
PlymouthCt711S
06-12-2008, 03:42 PM
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/singing/
Hear the Sun Sing
Have you ever wondered what the Sun would sound like if you could hear it?
Our Sun lies 93,000,000 miles away, surrounded by the vacuum of space. Sound won't travel through space, of course. But with the right instrument, scientists can "hear" pulsations from the Sun.
The entire Sun vibrates from a complex pattern of acoustical waves, much like a bell. If your eyes were sharp enough, you could see a bell's surface jiggle in complex patterns as the waves bounced around within it.
Likewise, astronomers at Stanford University can record acoustical pressure waves in the Sun by carefully tracking movements on the Sun's surface. To do this, they use an instrument called a Michelson Doppler Imager (MDI), mounted on the SOHO spacecraft, circling the Sun 1,000,000 miles from Earth.
The Sun's acoustical waves bounce from one side of the Sun to the other in about two hours, causing the Sun's surface to oscillate, or wiggle up and down. Because these sound waves travel underneath the Sun's surface, they are influenced by conditions inside the Sun. So scientists can use the oscillations to learn more about how the structure of the Sun's interior shapes its surface.
The Sun's sound waves are normally at frequencies too low for the human ear to hear. To be able to hear them, the scientists sped up the waves 42,000 times -- and compressed 40 days of vibrations into a few seconds. What you'll be hearing are just a few dozen of the 10 million resonances echoing inside the Sun.
More info and etc:
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links at site:
Sounds of solar oscillations (in the AIFF format)
one mode (l=1,n=20, nu=2.94-3.0 mHz), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
three modes (l=0,n=21, l=1,n=20, l=2,n=20, nu=2.95-3.05 mHz), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
all low-degree modes (l=0,1,2, and 3), AIFF format, 8-bit, 11.025 kHz sampling rate (0.9 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate (7.3 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, twice as slow (14.5 MB)
AIFF format, 16-bit, 44.1 kHz sampling rate, three times as slow (21.9 MB)
all three samples in one program with brief comments (AIFF).
picture of the sound at 2:02 (all_modes_f3c.jpg).
The sounds are obtained from 40-days of MDI disk-averaged data speeded up by factor 42,000.
Next time you drop Acid,don't look at the Sun too long.
david_mancuso
06-12-2008, 03:47 PM
Next time you drop Acid,don't look at the Sun too long.
Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
"The Sun came out today and sang to me."
btw....if you really like to hear bass...go to the link.
ps.
no worries about starring at the sun....learned that a long time ago :)
like bacon frying:conf44:
david_mancuso
06-12-2008, 04:04 PM
http://soi.stanford.edu/results/sounds.html
link to sound/s
These are solar sounds generated from 40 days of Michelson Doppler Imager data and processed by A. Kosovichev.
The procedure he used for generating these sounds was the following. He started with doppler velocity data, averaged over the solar disk, so that only modes of low angular degree (l = 0, 1, 2) remained. Subsequent processing removed the spacecraft motion effects, instrument tuning, and some spurious points. Then Kosovichev filtered the data at about 3 mHz to select clean sound waves (and not supergranulation and instrumental noise). Finally, he interpolated over the missing data and scaled the data (speeded it up a factor 42,000 to bring it into the audible human-hearing range (kHz)).
david_mancuso
06-12-2008, 04:06 PM
ps. to: PlymouthCt711S
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likewater
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
ps. to: PlymouthCt711S
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:biglaugha: sounds like CHicken to Me..
david_mancuso
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
http://www.last.fm/music/Jimi+Hendrix/_/Third+Stone+From+the+Sun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j0un_third-stone-from-the-sun-by-jimi-he_music
Thank you PlymouthCt711S for the link :)
Jimi Hendrix - Lyrics - Third Stone From the Sun
Starfleet to scoutship, please give your position, Over.
I'm in orbit around the third planet from the star called
the sun. Over.
You mean its the earth? Over.
Positive. It is known to have some form of intelligent
species. Over.
I think we should take a look.
Strange beautiful grass of green,
With your majestic silver seas
Your mysterious mountains I wish to see closer
May I land my kinky machine
Strange beautiful grass of green,
With your majestic silver seas
Your mysterious mountains I wish to see closer
May I land my kinky machine
Although your world wonders me,
With your majestic and superior cackling hen
Your people I do not understand,
So to you I shall put an end
And you'll
Never hear
Surf music again
Secret
Oh, secret
Oh
Shhhh...
Phyllis Hyman Cherry
06-12-2008, 08:40 PM
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That sh*t would sound like your ass burning. Put down the pipe!!!
david_mancuso
06-13-2008, 01:41 AM
Thought there would be some interesting aspects posting this. Must have missed the boat.
:)
david_mancuso
06-13-2008, 02:32 AM
That sh*t would sound like your ass burning. Put down the pipe!!!
Greetings:
Just tried to send you a pm. Box is full.
david_mancuso
06-13-2008, 02:50 AM
The Sunspot Enigma: The Sun is “Dead”—What Does it Mean for Earth?
The Daily Galaxy
2008-06-12
Dark spots, some as large as 50,000 miles in diameter, typically move across the surface of the sun, contracting and expanding as they go. These strange and powerful phenomena are known as sunspots, but now they are all gone. Not even solar physicists know why it’s happening and what this odd solar silence might be indicating for our future.
Although periods of inactivity are normal for the sun, this current period has gone on much longer than usual and scientists are starting to worry—at least a little bit. Recently 100 scientists from Europe, Asia, Latin America, Africa and North America gathered to discuss the issue at an international solar conference at Montana State University. Today's sun is as inactive as it was two years ago, and solar physicists don’t have a clue as to why.
"It continues to be dead," said Saku Tsuneta with the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan, program manager for the Hinode solar mission, noting that it is at least a little bit worrisome for scientists.
Dana Longcope, a solar physicist at MSU, said the sun usually operates on an 11-year cycle with maximum activity occurring in the middle of the cycle. The last cycle reached its peak in 2001 and is believed to be just ending now, Longcope said. The next cycle is just beginning and is expected to reach its peak sometime around 2012. But so far nothing is happening.
"It's a dead face," Tsuneta said of the sun's appearance.
Tsuneta said solar physicists aren't weather forecasters and they can't predict the future. They do have the ability to observe, however, and they have observed a longer-than-normal period of solar inactivity. In the past, they observed that the sun once went 50 years without producing sunspots. That period coincided with a little ice age on Earth that lasted from 1650 to 1700. Coincidence? Some scientists say it was, but many worry that it wasn’t.
Geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory also show that there are currently no spots on the sun. He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.
"This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr Chapman noted in The Australian today.
If the world does face another mini Ice Age, it could come without warning. Evidence for abrupt climate change is readily found in ice cores taken from Greenland and Antarctica. One of the best known examples of such an event is the Younger Dryas cooling, which occurred about 12,000 years ago, named after the arctic wildflower found in northern European sediments. This event began and ended rather abruptly, and for its entire 1000 year duration the North Atlantic region was about 5°C colder. Could something like this happen again? There’s no way to tell, and because the changes can happen all within one decade—we might not even see it coming.
The Younger Dryas occurred at a time when orbital forcing should have continued to drive climate to the present warm state. The unexplained phenomenon has been the topic of much intense scientific debate, as well as other millennial scale events.
Now this 11-year low in Sunspot activity has raised fears among a small but growing number of scientists that rather than getting warmer, the Earth could possibly be about to return to another cooling period. The idea is especially intriguing considering that most of the world is in preparation for global warming.
Canadian scientist Kenneth Tapping of the National Research Council has also noted that solar activity has entered into an unusually inactive phase, but what that means—if anything—is still anyone’s guess. Another solar scientist, Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, however, is certain that it’s an indication of a coming cooling period.
Sorokhtin believes that a lack of sunspots does indicate a coming cooling period based on certain past trends and early records. In fact, he calls manmade climate change "a drop in the bucket" compared to the fierce and abrupt cold that can potentially be brought on by inactive solar phases.
Sorokhtin’s advice: "Stock up on fur coats"…just in case.
david_mancuso
06-13-2008, 03:10 AM
The Big Bang - The Big Think -
The first word Om (Aum)
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Circling Om: An Exploration of John Coltrane's Later Works
John Coltrane - Published: August 6, 2004
By Simon Weil Discuss
Index
Prologue
Part 1: The Sources of Nature
Part 2: Om
Part 3: Cosmos
Prologue:
Elvin Jones left John Coltrane's group in January 1966. A couple of months afterwards he declared: “At times I couldn't hear what I was doing - matter of fact, I couldn't hear what anybody was doing. All I could hear was a lot of noise.”1 But, shortly after Coltrane's death in July 1967, Jones defended the saxophonist's late music: “Well, of course it's far out, because this is a tremendous mind that's involved, you know. You wouldn't expect Einstein to be playing jacks, would you?” (radio interview)2
This amounts to a plea for understanding Coltrane's avant-garde music. I suppose you could say that Jones was attempting to see the best side of a man who had just died and who Jones revered (he compared him to an angel elsewhere). That that's all there is to it. But, still, it does stand in direct contradiction to his earlier statement.
In the radio interview, Jones compared Coltrane to Einstein - i.e. implying that Coltrane was a genius and that's why his late music was so difficult to grasp. For the same reason relativity is difficult to grasp. Because it is at genius-level and revolutionary. I'm pretty sure Jones was saying that.
But there is a potentially deeper way of looking at Elvin's comment; it is actually a reworking of Einstein's famous statement 'God does not play dice' - which was Einstein's answer to the apparent chaos of the Universe. Here Jones was reversing his view that Coltrane's late music was noise - that is chaos - instead asserting that it was the product of a “tremendous mind”, and thus, implicitly, difficult to grasp. The deepest level of meaning involved in this comment identifies both Einstein - and thus Coltrane - with God. For, in Elvin's statement, it is Einstein - and implicitly Coltrane - who doesn't play with jacks (i.e. a game of chance), while in Einstein's it is God who does not play at the game of chance. This would be in line with Elvin's conception of Coltrane as an angel - i.e. someone through whom God worked. And, indeed, God would be difficult to grasp.
Well, perhaps I am reading too much into the statement. This sort of deconstruction depends on the assumption that Jones was a kind of instinctive poet, making a terse statements full of profound meaning. But then he wouldn't have to do it all the time. Perfectly ordinary people do sometimes make profound, poetic statements about those they love. And moreover, Elvin's procedure is thoroughly jazz-like, taking a well-known line and remaking it; creating new meaning in the way of an improvising soloist. But, in this case, he is using words instead of notes.
Charliee
06-13-2008, 03:27 AM
Greetings David :)
"The universe, believe it or not, is nothing other than a giant musical instrument."
:thumbsup:
KragShot
06-13-2008, 09:36 AM
All I can think about with this thread is an old SF story where a person was considered "insane" because he kept telling people that he could hear the Sun and it was crying in sorrow. He tried to warn everybody that the Sun was in sorrow over the evils in the world and if it decided to stop communicating, it would be the end of the world, and it only kept going because he was the only person in the world left who could hear what it had to say.
The character was a messianic type who knew things about people that he should not have known, and his answer was always that the Sun told him because the Sun shines on everyone.
Anyway, a scientist began to realize that this guy was actually on to something, and tried to get to him in the asylum, when a riot broke out and a guard clubbed the poor man to death. Just as he died, the scientist reached him and his last words were:
"The Sun is not crying anymore...it's screaming...and...I'm sorry that I can't stop..."
The Sun at the moment of the man's death went Super Nova.
Kind of depressing...but that's what came to mind.
I wish I could remember the name of the story or the author...but it was in an anthology titled "Alternate Armageddons" and as per the title, it was all stories about the end of the world and how it would come about.
PlymouthCt711S
07-27-2008, 02:29 PM
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