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Lupine
07-10-2008, 11:51 AM
This comparison is pretty depressing. The US spends a higher percentage of GDP with a higher annual per-person cost breakdown than the other countries detailed, yet the percentage of the population covered is significantly lower.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/healthcare/healthcare_profiles.html

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:09 PM
This comparison is pretty depressing. The US spends a higher percentage of GDP with a higher annual per-person cost breakdown than the other countries detailed, yet the percentage of the population covered is significantly lower.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/healthcare/healthcare_profiles.html
Why is it depressing? ... the lower percentage covered?

That will be fixed with our next Presidential election - as most people want it to be.

So for 2012

- Higher Taxes
- Higher Premiums
- Decline in U.S. Health Care quality (due to socialize medicine - salaries and incentives of providers overall, etc.)

It will be inspiring in a few years ... just wait!

MarkK
07-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Why is it depressing? ... the lower percentage covered?

That will be fixed with our next Presidential election - as most people want it to be.

So for 2012

- Higher Taxes
- Higher Premiums
- Decline in U.S. Health Care quality (due to socialize medicine - salaries and incentives of providers overall, etc.)

It will be inspiring in a few years ... just wait!

Hey buddy, I receive socialized medicine and the quality of care is EXCELLENT.

Lupine
07-10-2008, 12:18 PM
Why wouldn't you find those numbers disturbing? It doesn't bother you that almost 20% of our population under 65 is uninsured? Also, why do you assume universal coverage equates lower quality care? From the articles i've read and heard, that assertion is false.



Why is it depressing? ... the lower percentage covered?

That will be fixed with our next Presidential election - as most people want it to be.

So for 2012

- Higher Taxes
- Higher Premiums
- Decline in U.S. Health Care quality (due to socialize medicine - salaries and incentives of providers overall, etc.)

It will be inspiring in a few years ... just wait!

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Hey buddy, I receive socialized medicine and the quality of care is EXCELLENT.
:lol: ... *edit, you mean in that country where you couldn't find a job for a year? ... you Healthy Unemployed fool :rofl5:

I still get the big spare room when I visit right?

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:20 PM
Why wouldn't you find those numbers disturbing? It doesn't bother you that almost 20% of our population under 65 is uninsured? Also, why do you assume universal coverage equates lower quality care? From the articles i've read and heard, that assertion is false.
Post 'em

Lupine
07-10-2008, 12:30 PM
I'll try to find more articles than just ones from this special NPR segment, but you can find some information here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91972152

MarkK
07-10-2008, 12:30 PM
:lol: ... *edit, you mean in that country where you couldn't find a job for a year? ... you Healthy Unemployed fool :rofl5:

I still get the big spare room when I visit right?

Damm, it was six months ahole. If I wanted to be a mindleess SAP programmer I would have had work from day one.

Yep, as a foreigner, covered from day one. Excellent care.

Of course, its completely ridiculous to compare Luxembourg to the USA. This country has more money than it knows what to do with. For starters, the army is less than 2000 soldiers.

Now that I am covered in a real country (Netherlands) I will report back how on how a large 'universal care' system works. I am pretty sure it works ok, as the Dutch are pretty healthy.

MarkK
07-10-2008, 12:31 PM
And yes, you still got the spare room!

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:33 PM
I'll try to find more articles than just ones from this special NPR segment, but you can find some information here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91972152
I'm well versed in Health Care - from the insurance, financial and provider-sides ... Including (currently) consulting to an infant, child and adult nutrition organization

Just post your articles citing your points please ... no time for a wild goose chase of links over here :)

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:34 PM
Damm, it was six months ahole. If I wanted to be a mindleess SAP programmer I would have had work from day one.

Yep, as a foreigner, covered from day one. Excellent care.

Of course, its completely ridiculous to compare Luxembourg to the USA. This country has more money than it knows what to do with. For starters, the army is less than 2000 soldiers.

Now that I am covered in a real country (Netherlands) I will report back how on how a large 'universal care' system works. I am pretty sure it works ok, as the Dutch are pretty healthy.
:thumbsup: :rofl5:

DaveR
07-10-2008, 12:34 PM
And yes, you still got the spare room!
:hail: I'll be there soon