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The Buddy Love Show
12-15-2003, 01:55 PM
Strom Thurmond the Dixieland devil had a secret
and she's black

and she had a secret

and now that secret is talking about her daddy..Senator Segregation himself

I don't have the details but when I heard the story on Sat nite tears came to my eyes

I was so damned happy

conservative christian huh..i hope he burns in hell for all the pain he caused

[ December 15, 2003, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: St Magus the Reviled ]

Digiman
12-15-2003, 02:13 PM
Do you have any links to the story? It sounds very interesting......

SHEIK YERBOUTI
12-15-2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Digiman:
Do you have any links to the story? It sounds very interesting...... Strom Thurmond's black (bi-racial) daughter comes forward. (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031214/ap_on_re_us/thurmond_paternity_6)

The Buddy Love Show
12-15-2003, 02:23 PM
yelling "nigger" by day and sneaking out for some black pussy at nite...i love it...forgt a X-Mas bonus this brings much ore joy

Martin Red
12-15-2003, 02:30 PM
what is done in the dark will come to the light

[ December 15, 2003, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

D J 1 3 8
12-15-2003, 02:33 PM
I think she's giving an interview on 60 Minutes 2 on Tuesday.

Yeah, I must admit shit like this kinda makes me happy too.

i.be.me
12-15-2003, 04:39 PM
reality is sooo much better than fiction.

i just wish he was still alive to suffer the embarrassment.

sammyrock
12-15-2003, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
Strom Thurmond the Dixieland devil had a secret
and she's black

and she had a secret

and now that secret is talking about her daddy..Senator Segregation himself

I don't have the details but when I heard the story on Sat nite tears came to my eyes

I was so damned happy

conservative christian huh..i hope he burns in hell for all the pain he caused Im very intersted to read or hear this story brotha...share. :D

The Buddy Love Show
12-15-2003, 05:38 PM
Sammy..check out the link that toomuchtv posted. But the long and short is that Strom Thurmond has a black daughter. When he was 22 he had sex with a 16 year old black girl and now the truth has come to light

This hasn't been a good year for social conservatives

liL Ray
12-16-2003, 07:54 AM
also...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/146305p-129247c.html

the interview will be on 60 Minutes II this wed. as was said above...

JMJ
12-16-2003, 08:05 AM
CONFIRMED by Thurmond's family:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/15/thurmond..paternity/index.html

The family reunion will never be the same......JMJ graemlins/rofl5.gif

[ December 16, 2003, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: JMJ ]

liL Ray
12-16-2003, 08:14 AM
also...from the DHP...covered in July(LATE...hahahaha)

http://deephousepage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=032368

JW
12-16-2003, 09:01 AM
This story has been floating around for years. Conservative Christians will try and explain it away as "that was a long time ago, why bring it up". I wish she had come forward while Strom was still alive. Its no different than the story about Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings. The descendants of Jefferson still claim that it wasn't Jefferson but one of his siblings. The hypocrisy!!! The media has always tried to portray these incidents as clandestine, forbidden interracial love affairs. In some cases (not all) it was an act of rape. It does beg the question, whether it was really an affair between the two (Strom and Ms. Washington's mother), or could it have been an act of rape. Either way, I'm glad see came forward and he did acknowledge it in private (through correspondence and financial support).

JMJ
12-16-2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by JW:
This story has been floating around for years. Conservative Christians will try and explain it away as "that was a long time ago, why bring it up". I wish she had come forward while Strom was still alive. Its no different than the story about Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings. The descendants of Jefferson still claim that it wasn't Jefferson but one of his siblings. The hypocrisy!!! The media has always tried to portray these incidents as clandestine, forbidden interracial love affairs. In some cases (not all) it was an act of rape. It does beg the question, whether it was really an affair between the two (Strom and Ms. Washington's mother), or could it have been an act of rape. Either way, I'm glad see came forward and he did acknowledge it in private (through correspondence and financial support). Most rapists don't acknowledge and support their victims' children. Most rapists don't go back to the scene of the crime.......JMJ

JW
12-16-2003, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by JMJ:
Most rapists don't acknowledge and support their victims' children. Most rapists don't go back to the scene of the crime.......JMJ [/QUOTE]

Good point but in those days, if you were a maid or servant, you didn't/couldn't say no. The act of resistance wasn't the same as it is today. However, I believe that situation had a profound effect on him and shaped his political career for 80+ years. As damaging as it could have been, he probably intensified his message to such an extent that if it ever got out that he had a child by a black woman, nobody would ever believe him anyway.

JR JAM
12-16-2003, 04:17 PM
Thurmond's Son Acknowledges Woman's Claim

COLUMBIA, S.C. - The oldest son of the late U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond says he is ready to meet the mixed-race half sister whose relationship to the family his father, a onetime segregationist, had kept secret for nearly eight decades.


Strom Thurmond Jr., the U.S. attorney for South Carolina, says his family will not contest the claim of Essie Mae Washington-Williams, a 78-year-old retired teacher living in Los Angeles.


Williams says Thurmond fathered her when he was 22 and living in his parents' home in Edgefield. Her mother, Carrie Butler, 16 at the time, worked as a maid in the Thurmonds' home.


"We have no reason to believe Ms. Williams was not telling the truth," Strom Thurmond Jr. told The (Columbia) State for a story in Tuesday's editions. "Everyone has a right to know their heritage."


Thurmond Jr. said he was looking forward to meeting the retired schoolteacher and establishing a relationship, but plans to do that in private.


"As far as emotions or how I feel, I feel good, because that's a feeling you get from doing the right thing," Thurmond Jr. said.


Williams had long been rumored to be Thurmond's child, though she previously denied it. She has come forward now at the urging of her children, said Frank K. Wheaton, Williams' attorney in California.


"She waited until after his passing because she had such a profound love and respect for her father and so did he for her ... they both shared a mutual respect that raised the bar of integrity, as we generally know it," Wheaton said Tuesday on ABC's "Good Morning America."


He said Williams was not seeking money and did not want to challenge Thurmond's will. Thurmond died in June at age 100.


"This case was never about money, much to the surprise of many. Essie Mae Washington-Williams merely wanted validation, acknowledgment, so that she could bring finality and closure to her life. She wanted this for her children and their children and their children," Wheaton said.


The family doesn't know much about Williams, Thurmond Jr. said.


"I had a conversation with my dad about it about 10 years ago. I asked about this, and he didn't tell me whether she was or whether she wasn't (his daughter)," he said. "I did not ask again."


Thurmond Jr. and other family members didn't return several phone calls from The Associated Press on Monday.


Earlier Monday, Thurmond's family released a statement acknowledging Williams' claims.


"As J. Strom Thurmond has passed away and cannot speak for himself, the Thurmond family acknowledges Ms. Essie Mae Washington-Williams' claim to her heritage. We hope this acknowledgment will bring closure for Ms. Williams," the family's lawyer, J. Mark Taylor, said.


Williams said Thurmond privately acknowledged her as his daughter and had provided financial support since 1941. She said she waited to go public because she didn't want to embarrass herself or hurt Thurmond's career. The Washington Post first reported her claims Saturday.


"There was an agreement between the parties that she would never discuss the fact that Senator Thurmond was her father," said her South Carolina lawyer, Glenn Walters.




In seven decades of politics, Thurmond gained fame and infamy as an arch-segregationist, but he later came to support a holiday for slain civil rights leader the Rev. Martin Luther King.

Raised by an aunt, Williams told the Post she first met Thurmond around 1941, when she was 16, and Thurmond called her a "very lovely daughter."

She told the newspaper she received money at least once a year in sessions arranged by Thurmond's Senate staff. Wheaton said the total over the years was "very substantial" but less than $1 million.

Williams was to discuss her story at a news conference Wednesday in Columbia, but one of her sons, Dr. Ronald Williams of Onalaska, Wash., told The State he will tell her it would be better to meet privately with the Thurmond family than talk to the media.

Moksha
12-16-2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by i.be.me:
reality is sooo much better than fiction.

i just wish he was still alive to suffer the embarrassment. Word! But you can't get everything you want for Christmas.

Rudy Jordan
12-16-2003, 06:54 PM
How many Klansmens heads exploded when the acknowledgement was made public?

Peace