Blacks Dont Read

[cduke]

"THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES"
We can continue to reap profits from the Blacks without the effort of
physical slavery. Look at the current methods of containment that they use
on themselves: IGNORANCE, GREED, and SELFISHNESS. Their IGNORANCE is the
primary weapon of containment. A great man once said, "The best way to hide
something from Black people is to put it in a book." We now live in the
Information Age. They have gained the opportunity to read any book on any
subject through the efforts of their fight for freedom, yet they refuse to
read.
There are numerous books readily available at Borders, Barnes &Noble,
and Amazon.com, not to mention their own Black Bookstores that provide
solid blueprints to reach economic equality (which should have been their
fight all along), but few read consistently, if at all. GREED is another
powerful weapon of containment. Blacks, since the abolition of slavery,
have had large amounts of money at their disposal. Last year they spent 10
billion dollars during Christmas, out of their 450 billion dollars in total

yearly income (2.22%). Any of us can use them as our target market, for any
business venture we care to dream up, no matter how outlandish, they will
buy into it.
Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed.
They continually want more, with little thought for saving or investing.
They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a business.
Some even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy or FUBU, And they
still think that having a Mercedes, and a big house gives them "Status" or
that they have achieved the American Dream. They are fools!
The vast majority of their people are still in poverty because their
greed holds them back from collectively making better communities. With the
help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts
destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge
profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even jeered them,
saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more
with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other
while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses that
we market to them.
SELFISHNESS, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of the
major ways we can continue to contain them. One of their own, Dubois said
that there was an innate division in their culture. A "Talented Tenth" he
called it. He was correct in his deduction that there are segments of their
culture that has achieved some "form" of success. However, that segment
missed the fullness of his work. They didn't read that the "Talented Tenth"
was then responsible to aid The Non-Talented Ninety Percent in achieving a
better life. Instead, that segment has created another class, a Buppie
class that looks down on their people or aids them in a condescending
manner. They will never achieve what we have. Their selfishness does not
allow them to be able to work together on any project or endeavor of
substance.
When they do get together, their selfishness lets their egos get in
the way of their goal. Their so-called help organizations seem to only want
to promote their name without making any real change in their community.
They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our hotels, and
talk about what they will do, while they award plaques to the be St
speakers, not the best doers. Is there no end to their selfishness?
They steadfastly refuse to see that TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE
(TEAM)! They do not understand that they are no better than each other of
what they own fact, most of those Buppies are but one or two paychecks away
from poverty. All of which is under the control of our pens in our offices
and our rooms. Yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse
to read, continue to buy anything they want, and keep thinking they are
"helping" their communities by paying dues to organizations which do little
other than hold lavish conventions in our hotels. By the way, don't worry
about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T READ!!!!

[ November 22, 2003, 06:54 PM: Message edited by: cduke ]

[Larissa J.]

This is way too deep, because I was just taling to some sistas yesterday this very subject. The fact that the majority of Black Culture does not read and it kills me, because we continually subject our children to the same ignorances. I get so tired of hearing the bashing from parents regarding the teachers, about their children's reading and math scores. This American school system is fucked up all the way. Education starts at home. School is a supplment. Parents don't read to their children. Hell they won't even read themselves and wonder why the child won't read and furthermore, hates. Parents should read to their chilren until they get 12 years old and then tell them stories about their on life after 12, so that they can understand how to relay a story and it futher creates a family bond. How many of us feed into this industry of the Sony Playstations, the Gameboys, the Gamecubes, etc. and use this as a vehicle to get the kids out of our face? How many of us allow our children to turn on the television when you know damn well, they need to be reading a book? Do we teach our children about our history, someone else's history or culture, how to be creative and utilize their God give talents to make money. I'm sure some of us do, but not enough to cause an overwhelming impact. I can't say this enough. We need to be responsible for our own race, our children, and our future. It starts with us.

Peace

[MikeBee]

Not true for all of us but definitely a large portion of us. "Reading" this I couldn't help making a mental comparison to the collective economic strength of the Hasidic (Jewish) community right here in Brooklyn. They use unity and money (not spent foolishly) to make things happen for themselves right in our community under our noses. With this strength they are buying up every piece of property that they can get there hands on. They are turning empty lots into nice buildings for themselves and even buying out Black owners property only to turn around and rent for higher rates thus regentrifying the neighborhood. You should see how they can shut down an entire major street like Myrtle avenue for a rally in a second. They also, because of their collective economic strength, can influence many city and state agencys including the NYC police department.

This is nothing new. Unfortunately UNITY has been a problem with Black people.

[Supine]

That article is wrong. It does nothing to further any cause, except racism.

Supine

[MikeBee]

Originally posted by Supine:
That article is wrong. It does nothing to further any cause, except racism.

Supine The article does reek of stereoyping but unfortunately many of our people do fit that mold of foolish spending. Don't know where you live but just take a walk down Fulton street mall (or any other major area that sells "Hip Hop" fashion) on a Saturday in the Summer for evidence.

[Mr 1977]

I guess this means that "None" of my fellow DHP Members are Black. You DO have to "read" the board...Don't you? If all you had to do was read to achieve wealth(not get rich), many Blacks would be joining Oprah and Robert(BET) Johnson on the Forbes list. The other obstacles (prejudices)to wealth are not mentioned anywhere in this article. this is a "cute" article, but please don't believe that that is all that holds our people down. Now, voting (or lack there of)in our community is another story.

[MikeBee]

Originally posted by MikeBee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Supine:
That article is wrong. It does nothing to further any cause, except racism.

Supine The article does reek of stereoyping but unfortunately many of our people do fit that mold of foolish spending. Don't know where you live but just take a walk down Fulton street mall (or any other major area that sells "Hip Hop" fashion) on a Saturday in the Summer for evidence. </font>[/QUOTE]Lets not overlook a very important point made:

With the
help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts
destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge
profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even jeered them,
saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more
with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other
while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses that
we market to them.

[Supine]

You dont have to be black to spend money like a fool.

Supine

[MikeBee]

Originally posted by Supine:
You dont have to be black to spend money like a fool.

Supine True but many of us (Black people) spend money we don't really have on the wrong things for the wrong reasons.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by MikeBee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikeBee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Supine:
That article is wrong. It does nothing to further any cause, except racism.

Supine The article does reek of stereoyping but unfortunately many of our people do fit that mold of foolish spending. Don't know where you live but just take a walk down Fulton street mall (or any other major area that sells "Hip Hop" fashion) on a Saturday in the Summer for evidence. </font>[/QUOTE]Lets not overlook a very important point made:

With the
help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often broadcasts
destructive images into their own homes, we will continue to see huge
profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy Hilfiger has even jeered them,
saying he doesn't want their money, and look at how the fools spend more
with him than ever before!). They'll continue to show off to each other
while we build solid communities with the profits from our businesses that
we market to them. </font>[/QUOTE]Hilfiger never said that.

[Supine]

MikeBee. I know people waste money on rubbish. Plenty of whites do this too.

Just look at George Dubya Bush and his billions..... AR15firing.gif

[MikeBee]

Timmy, I heard that before and I never really looked into whether or not TH said that but still,
you see what goes on Downtown. And I'm sure you know what's happening with the real estate situation around here. Timmy and Supine, the point I'm trying to make is that I see the economic power that the Hasidic community has. I sure don't see them downtown buyin up all the lastest $200 Jordans. What I do see is them throwin up bldgs left and right. And speaking of reading and education. They pool their money and build schools for their children. We as black people need to take a page out of their book.

[MikeBee]

Originally posted by Supine:
MikeBee. I know people waste money on rubbish. Plenty of whites do this too.

Just look at George Dubya Bush and his billions..... AR15firing.gif Difference is too many of us often, despite many times being in a worse of economic situation than our white peer, try to front like we got it when we don't by the clothes, jewelry and cars we buy.
And we know the gov't is killing or pockets to fund those Billions for war. Shouldn't we be trying not to waste what little we have left?

[ November 22, 2003, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: MikeBee ]

[And]

Originally posted by cduke:
This is a trip ,let me know your thoughts.
"BLACKS DON'T READ"
Please Note:
For those of you who heard it, this is the article Dee Lee was reading on a New York radio station. For those of you who didn't hear it, this is very deep and true!
This is a heavy piece and a Caucasian wrote it!!!
Yeah, yeah on the 'don't throw out baby w/bath water' argument on fluffy pieces like this. Emphasizing that a Caucasian wrote this makes me wonder what you wish to see happen in this thread. What are your thoughts beyond 'it's a trip' and true'?
At some point didn't the generalizations and T.Hilfiger urban myth make you chuckle? .. Hahahaha ...
but
not
really. graemlins/sleep2.gif

[Mike Johnson]

I don't believe this was written by a caucasion person, at least not fully. As I said before, all blacks are not in the same place, economically, socially, educationally, etc. Why anyone would believe that we all rise and fall equally as a race is preposterous. There are whites of all various social, economic and educational standing throughout this country, and they are not viewed in a collective manner as being fully representive of the condition of whites in America. Yet, time and time again, the condition of blacks is erroneously viewed in a collective manner both by folks within and outside of the race. I think what tends to be magnified is the condition of the black underclass and its mis-appropiation of that condition to the overall black race at large. I for one do not ascribe to those attributes painted by the writer(s) of the article, and I know many blacks who don't live by those attributes - and as for videos shown on BET that falsely portray life in the hood, learn to know what's real and what aint. It's mostly image for the sake of advertising clothes, cars, a lifestyle supposedly maintained by folks who don't know what to do with money. As for driving the Mercedes and living in a big house for "status", let it be known that there are far more whites who ascribe to status symbols as validation of having made it, and there are far more whites who have filed bankruptcy as result of trying to maintain such a lifestyle.

my 2cents

[Dave K]

First off if blacks don't read how are there black owned book stores still in buisness. This is absolute trash. I find it funny when someone makes a bold statement and really it sounds to me if he/she is a white person that the only way he could come to this conclusion is from watching tv shows and the news. If you want to talk about problems in the black community talk about the failure of some black men and women who won't take responsibility for their children but don't give me this b.s about us not reading. And i find it sad that people instead of being outraged about this on this page are saying things like yeah i was saying the same things to my friends just the other day. And if anyone who is black belives it then answer me this. How would you know? Are you a grad student who is doing a research paper on this? I would like to know how you got your information.We as black people do have issues that need to be resloved but to me there was no point in reading this on the airwaves nothing possitive will come from that article. By the way i wonder if the whiteman buying all the books at the blackman's bookstore.

[Dave K]

Who wouldn't want a nice home and a Mercedes

[Moksha]

Do white or Hispanic people read anymore? I thought it was our whole culture.

I'm not convinced that reading is essentially good, though I read constantly.

Maybe the solution, instead of blaming blacks for not reading, is to have television (which EVERYONE watches) to have better programming. We should come to grips with the fact that television is now the most important medium. Unfortunately, its content is fucking terrible.

[Mike Johnson]

Originally posted by Dave K:
Who wouldn't want a nice home and a Mercedes Actually, my point was that the writer was mistaken in asserting that blacks are the only ones who either desire or make these purchases. Nothing wrong with wanting them - but it's not a black thing and having them is not the be-all and end-all of the American dream. For some, black and white alike (however, more whites), trying to keep up with the Joneses has resulted in keeping bankruptcy courts fairly busy.

[ November 22, 2003, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: Mike Johnson ]

[Dave K]

Mike i agree with you ,my post was not aimed at you but at the article itself. I have real doubt to this article being written by a white person. I also find it funny that someone would talk about how there is no black unity and that we do not spend our money wisely. In some cases that is true but that is not a symptom that is excclusive to black's. That is more a class thing than a race thing. I suggest to you all who feel that we are the only ones who have these problems or faults hop in your cars or busses and travel through the america's and see how the other americans are living.Go through the midwest and see how some whites have it in Indiana ,Minnesota,and parts of Michigan. See how much there problems and there lack of unity differs from ours. Or hey go to Arizona right outside Phonex and see how the Native americans are living. And see how the Native americans are sharing all that casino money whith each other. People say that we have no unity and yet they will make the same sweeping comments that a person from another race would whose only experiance with blacks are from what they see on upn or the wb.

[Fletch]

Originally posted by MikeBee:
Not true for all of us but definitely a large portion of us. "Reading" this I couldn't help making a mental comparison to the collective economic strength of the Hasidic (Jewish) community right here in Brooklyn. They use unity and money (not spent foolishly) to make things happen for themselves right in our community under our noses. With this strength they are buying up every piece of property that they can get there hands on. They are turning empty lots into nice buildings for themselves and even buying out Black owners property only to turn around and rent for higher rates thus regentrifying the neighborhood. You should see how they can shut down an entire major street like Myrtle avenue for a rally in a second. They also, because of their collective economic strength, can influence many city and state agencys including the NYC police department.

This is nothing new. Unfortunately UNITY has been a problem with Black people. MikeBee,

My pastor, in making an analogy with another topic, brought up the subject of the Hasidic Jews last Sunday. And he was right on the money. He said that the educational system at home, at the Jewish schools and the synagogoues are all consistent with each other. On the other hand, with Black folk, in essence, we learn one thing at home, another thing at school and something else at church. That's a problem!

[ November 22, 2003, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Fletch ]

[cduke]

Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by cduke:
This is a trip ,let me know your thoughts.
"BLACKS DON'T READ"
Please Note:
For those of you who heard it, this is the article Dee Lee was reading on a New York radio station. For those of you who didn't hear it, this is very deep and true!
This is a heavy piece and a Caucasian wrote it!!!
Yeah, yeah on the 'don't throw out baby w/bath water' argument on fluffy pieces like this. Emphasizing that a Caucasian wrote this makes me wonder what you wish to see happen in this thread. What are your thoughts beyond 'it's a trip' and true'?
At some point didn't the generalizations and T.Hilfiger urban myth make you chuckle? .. Hahahaha ...
but
not
really. graemlins/sleep2.gif </font>[/QUOTE]by the way i just copied it from my email i personaly didnt say i (cduke) whomever sent me this or sent them this could b them i should have taken that part out and no i dont wanna see what was other people thoughts its just that its mostly true we as a people dont read and the TH legend didnt make me chuckle just got wrong info thank u on correcting me but u make it seems that u r a MR KNOW IT ALL
mad1.gif

[DJ Keith Porter]

Originally posted by cduke:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 6 23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by cduke:
This is a trip ,let me know your thoughts.
"BLACKS DON'T READ"
Please Note:
For those of you who heard it, this is the article Dee Lee was reading on a New York radio station. For those of you who didn't hear it, this is very deep and true!
This is a heavy piece and a Caucasian wrote it!!!
Yeah, yeah on the 'don't throw out baby w/bath water' argument on fluffy pieces like this. Emphasizing that a Caucasian wrote this makes me wonder what you wish to see happen in this thread. What are your thoughts beyond 'it's a trip' and true'?
At some point didn't the generalizations and T.Hilfiger urban myth make you chuckle? .. Hahahaha ...
but
not
really. graemlins/sleep2.gif </font>[/QUOTE]by the way i just copied it from my email i personaly didnt say i (cduke) whomever sent me this or sent them this could b them i should have taken that part out and no i dont wanna see what was other people thoughts its just that its mostly true we as a people dont read and the TH legend didnt make me chuckle just got wrong info thank u on correcting me but u make it seems that u r a MR KNOW IT ALL
mad1.gif </font>[/QUOTE]MRS KNOW IT ALL!
graemlins/slap.gif

[music]

the better of the statements is that blacks(we) developed their own institutions(colleges and universities) churches, and think tanks. wouldn't that take a great people?

what other people have made it through with little what we had?

they took our god,culture,education, land and religion and we are still here.

[ November 24, 2003, 01:43 AM: Message edited by: music ]

[mhd]

Originally posted by music:
the better of the statements is that blacks(we) developed our own institutions(colleges and universities) churches, and think tanks. hey wouldn't take a great people to do that.

what other people have made it through with little what we had?

they took our god,culture,education, land and religion and we are still here. thank you music, i don't get the persistent rush to self-derision in this thread

[Mike Johnson]

Originally posted by Fletch:
My pastor, in making an analogy with another topic, brought up the subject of the Hasidic Jews last Sunday. And he was right on the money. He said that the educational system at home, at the Jewish schools and the synagogoues are all consistent with each other. On the other hand, with Black folk, in essence, we learn one thing at home, another thing at school and something else at church. That's a problem! But being a Hasidic Jew is a total way of life, culturally, religiously and otherwise. That doesn't necessarily hold true for blacks. At best, the thing that blacks have in common is the color of their skin (in various shades, but it doesn't negate race) and the way blacks are generally viewed by non-blacks(for various reasons right or wrong).

[TAC]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by music:
the better of the statements is that blacks(we) developed our own institutions(colleges and universities) churches, and think tanks. hey wouldn't take a great people to do that.

what other people have made it through with little what we had?

they took our god,culture,education, land and religion and we are still here. thank you music, i don't get the persistent rush to self-derision in this thread </font>[/QUOTE]Who is they?