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Querck
07-08-2003, 11:36 PM
But, man, I am loving the outcome...
I've learned more about people on the DHP over the last 2 days than in my previous 2 years here combined, especially those who I knew in person, but didn't REALLY know them.
A lot of shiit got exposed, lots of hypocricies uncovered, and in my opinion--all the better.
Some of you are so blinded by love that you turn into ugly dickheads, but I applaud your intentions.
See you at the Shelter (if they let me in ;) )
As "removed" from the events as I was .. and as circular as most of the dialogue seems to have been, I've been really engaged by all of it. This board is definitely tops. graemlins/grinyes.gif
Damn db, you sure caused a lot of sheezy up in here. I can't wait to hear about your next experience at the Shelter. But before you post let me know beforehand, so I can make some popcorn to sit back and watch the DHP drama unfold. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/smokin.gif
DJ Hutch
07-09-2003, 12:22 AM
DON'T BE SORRY FU** IT IF THY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE
YUJI-SAN
07-09-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:
DON'T BE SORRY FU** IT IF THY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE Is that yo number on your sig?
DJ Hutch
07-09-2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by YUJI-SAN:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:
DON'T BE SORRY FU** IT IF THY CAN'T TAKE A JOKE Is that yo number on your sig? </font>[/QUOTE]YES IT IS
imported_Gman
07-09-2003, 07:22 AM
Danny, did you at least see Freddy of The Shelter's response ?
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
But, man, I am loving the outcome...
I've learned more about people on the DHP over the last 2 days than in my previous 2 years here combined, especially those who I knew in person, but didn't REALLY know them.
A lot of shiit got exposed, lots of hypocricies uncovered, and in my opinion--all the better.
Some of you are so blinded by love that you turn into ugly dickheads, but I applaud your intentions.
See you at the Shelter (if they let me in ;) ) ummmm don't you know Glen?...did you speak with him before you posted the thread in question?
jus questions
Hey you live and you learn...
Just remember in the future...
Ask questions first ....
AR15firing.gif Later..
ohh yeah and don't post when you're http://deephousepage.com/smilies/madani.gif
graemlins/bighug.gif
then again when you post http://deephousepage.com/smilies/madani.gif, it gives us much to talk about.. icon_rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
djklas
07-09-2003, 08:15 AM
Hey you think "Next time" you guys can hash this out on the kou or underground NYC? Or at least keep it to one ****ing thread instead of tying up the whole ****ing board.
....just consider it.... :D
Thank you.
PS. This is not directed at any one individual(before you all go taking offense)
Koffy Brown
07-09-2003, 08:24 AM
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way....
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... so true..thats why i'm not devoted to the house scene as i want to make money and you cats are broke and ingrates to boot...and i won't even get into stupid
imported_Gman
07-09-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... That was not an apology.
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... That was not an apology. </font>[/QUOTE]G... as i always tell these people READING IS FUNDAMENTAL - yet they STILL don't get it
Koffy Brown
07-09-2003, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... That was not an apology. </font>[/QUOTE]well the title was "I'm sorry for starting this mess"...but in context it wasn't a formal apology...but still....
Bill Blake
07-09-2003, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... Yes he paid money to an establishment that booked the DJ he wanted to see. Glenn showed up and was offered to play on two different occasions that night according to Freddy, and Glenn declined on both occasions.
And although there were many possibilities as to why Glenn and even other DJs did not play or did not show up, instead of an initial topic started to inquire about this, remember, the title of the thread was Shelter MISREPRESENTATIONS.
The title implies that the ONLY reasons his beloved Glenn didn’t play was Shelters fault. And from this accusation a whole slew of Shelter bashings found their way into to threads, some, more than some, using this assumed impropriety of Shelter as an example to use to prove their point that the place is all about the money, doesn’t care about its costumers, that the management is lacking etcetera.
As a promoter of a party who’s party gave DJ’s an opportunity to show up and play and the DJ’s either declined to show or play and then be accused of this being their fault, I can completely understand that
One: A promoter has the right and can certainly feel that they don’t need to explain it to anyone if they chose.
Two: Given that they did do their part and then were accused otherwise could have a **** OFF attitude. It’s their business and their right. And to be honest, the reply that its unprofessional is shallow to say they least. There are plenty of people that make money and provide top-notch services in markets everyday that tell someone to **** off.
Three: Robbie is perfectly entitled to throw of the robe of promoter on this board when he aint on the clock and speak outside of ‘Shelter’ if he chooses.
What Danny really should of have learned and everyone should be reminded of is Classic Sherlock Holmes.
To assume a hypothesis be true, one must first rule out all other hypotheses.
[ July 09, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Lennox ]
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... Yes he paid money to an establishment that booked the DJ he wanted to see. Glenn showed up and was offered to play on two different occasions that night according to Freddy, and Glenn declined on both occasions.
And although there were many possibilities as to why Glenn and even other DJs did not play or did not show up, instead of an initial topic started to inquire about this, remember, the title of the thread was Shelter MISREPRESENTATIONS.
The title implies that the ONLY reasons his beloved Glenn didn’t play was Shelters fault. And from this accusation a whole slew of Shelter bashings found their way into to threads, some, more than some, using this assumed impropriety of Shelter as an example to use to prove their point that the place is all about the money, doesn’t care about its costumers, that the management is lacking etcetera.
As a promoter of a party who’s party gave DJ’s an opportunity to show up and play and the DJ’s either declined to show or play and then be accused of this being their fault, I can completely understand that
One: A promoter has the right and can certainly feel that they don’t need to explain it to anyone if they chose.
Two: Given that they did do their part and then were accused otherwise could have a **** OFF attitude. It’s their business and their right. And to be honest, the reply that its unprofessional is shallow to say they least. There are plenty of people that make money and provide top-notch services in markets everyday that tell someone to **** off.
Three: Robbie is perfectly entitled to throw of the robe of promoter on this board when he aint on the clock and speak outside of ‘Shelter’ if he chooses.
What Danny really should of have learned and everyone should be reminded of is Classic Sherlock Holmes.
To assume a hypothesis be true, one must first rule out all other hypotheses. </font>[/QUOTE]jamie walk with me and i will make you a fisher of men...then we will filet and eat them with a lil barbecue sauce (after rifling their pockets for a lil loose change for tithing)
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... Yes he paid money to an establishment that booked the DJ he wanted to see. Glenn showed up and was offered to play on two different occasions that night according to Freddy, and Glenn declined on both occasions.
And although there were many possibilities as to why Glenn and even other DJs did not play or did not show up, instead of an initial topic started to inquire about this, remember, the title of the thread was Shelter MISREPRESENTATIONS.
The title implies that the ONLY reasons his beloved Glenn didn’t play was Shelters fault. And from this accusation a whole slew of Shelter bashings found their way into to threads, some, more than some, using this assumed impropriety of Shelter as an example to use to prove their point that the place is all about the money, doesn’t care about its costumers, that the management is lacking etcetera.
As a promoter of a party who’s party gave DJ’s an opportunity to show up and play and the DJ’s either declined to show or play and then be accused of this being their fault, I can completely understand that
One: A promoter has the right and can certainly feel that they don’t need to explain it to anyone if they chose.
Two: Given that they did do their part and then were accused otherwise could have a **** OFF attitude. It’s their business and their right. And to be honest, the reply that its unprofessional is shallow to say they least. There are plenty of people that make money and provide top-notch services in markets everyday that tell someone to **** off.
Three: Robbie is perfectly entitled to throw of the robe of promoter on this board when he aint on the clock and speak outside of ‘Shelter’ if he chooses.
What Danny really should of have learned and everyone should be reminded of is Classic Sherlock Holmes.
To assume a hypothesis be true, one must first rule out all other hypotheses. </font>[/QUOTE]once again, jamie is on point
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... Yes he paid money to an establishment that booked the DJ he wanted to see. Glenn showed up and was offered to play on two different occasions that night according to Freddy, and Glenn declined on both occasions.
And although there were many possibilities as to why Glenn and even other DJs did not play or did not show up, instead of an initial topic started to inquire about this, remember, the title of the thread was Shelter MISREPRESENTATIONS.
The title implies that the ONLY reasons his beloved Glenn didn’t play was Shelters fault. And from this accusation a whole slew of Shelter bashings found their way into to threads, some, more than some, using this assumed impropriety of Shelter as an example to use to prove their point that the place is all about the money, doesn’t care about its costumers, that the management is lacking etcetera.
As a promoter of a party who’s party gave DJ’s an opportunity to show up and play and the DJ’s either declined to show or play and then be accused of this being their fault, I can completely understand that
One: A promoter has the right and can certainly feel that they don’t need to explain it to anyone if they chose.
Two: Given that they did do their part and then were accused otherwise could have a **** OFF attitude. It’s their business and their right. And to be honest, the reply that its unprofessional is shallow to say they least. There are plenty of people that make money and provide top-notch services in markets everyday that tell someone to **** off.
Three: Robbie is perfectly entitled to throw of the robe of promoter on this board when he aint on the clock and speak outside of ‘Shelter’ if he chooses.
What Danny really should of have learned and everyone should be reminded of is Classic Sherlock Holmes.
To assume a hypothesis be true, one must first rule out all other hypotheses. </font>[/QUOTE]graemlins/respekt.gif graemlins/thumbsup.gif
there's obviously at least 2 ways in which dhp members view professionalism with regards to promoting. both sides have laid out their arguments ad nauseum, and neither camp is going to convince the other they are right. can we all agree to disagree and move on?
Keith Blackstone
07-09-2003, 09:06 AM
I have pretty much stayed out of this whole discussion, but it kills me how you can get 10+ pages of bashing and discussion on negative issues, and so few pages of acknowlegement once reason is given from both Freddy and Glenn.
Bunch of f'ing ridiculous people. You wanna talk a bunch of stuff when it's all negative (whether justified or not) but can't stand up and acknowledge the reasoning when it's given.
f'ing stupid. graemlins/cussing.gif
[ July 09, 2003, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: Keith Blackstone ]
Originally posted by JL:
there's obviously at least 2 ways in which dhp members view professionalism with regards to promoting. both sides have laid out their arguments ad nauseum, and neither camp is going to convince the other they are right. can we all agree to disagree and move on? you want to hold robbi to a standard of professionalism yet d-boy has no standard for accuracy, respect, decency, how about gratitude?
Leslie
07-09-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by JL:
there's obviously at least 2 ways in which dhp members view professionalism with regards to promoting. both sides have laid out their arguments ad nauseum, and neither camp is going to convince the other they are right. can we all agree to disagree and move on? Thank you I am so ****ing tired of all of this bullshit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, beef, etc. I don't give a shit who has the whole story, half the story, a piece of the story or whatever - in the end who gives a half a shit - aint' NONE of this paying your bills and if it is, it fully explains why some noses are so ****ing far outta joint. Grow the **** up and move the **** on - all of you. Get a ****ING LIFE BEYOND LAST SATURDAY NITE/SUNDAY AFTERNOON! Why some of y'all constantly feel the MFing need to justify shit is beyond me - men are 12 times worse than women with keeping beef. This board shows it time and time again! Every day is like the first ****ing day here - do I even believe this shit?
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... That was not an apology. </font>[/QUOTE]well the title was "I'm sorry for starting this mess"...but in context it wasn't a formal apology...but still.... </font>[/QUOTE]another example of the benefits derived from the Evelyn Woods speed reading course......Now you too can read twice as much with half the comprehension.!!..all for only $99.95!!!!....call now operators are waiting
Leslie
07-09-2003, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by WhyYouNeedToKnow:
I personally don't think you have anything to apologize about, you paid money to see a specific dj and you didn't...why are you apologizing? you asked a question and was told to fuk off, why are you apologizing? Actually, you were told that if you didn't like what you got then fuk off and don't come back...I don't feel like you should have been asking GU anything, he wasn't on the board saying "Hey come and see me play at XYZ on BBB" I personally think it's up to the establishment and the promoters to clear the air, as it has been done...now if you want to know more info, then I guess you would go to GU..but otherwise you finally got a well deserved answer...
And I totally agree with you....talk about devotion....it's kinda scary in a way.... That was not an apology. </font>[/QUOTE]well the title was "I'm sorry for starting this mess"...but in context it wasn't a formal apology...but still.... </font>[/QUOTE]another example of the benefits derived from the Evelyn Woods speed reading course......Now you too can read twice as much with half the comprehension.!!..all for only $99.95!!!!....call now operators are waiting </font>[/QUOTE]Move on! You made your ****ing point your smarter that the average bear - talk about comprehension...
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JL:
there's obviously at least 2 ways in which dhp members view professionalism with regards to promoting. both sides have laid out their arguments ad nauseum, and neither camp is going to convince the other they are right. can we all agree to disagree and move on? Thank you I am so ****ing tired of all of this bullshit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, beef, etc. I don't give a shit who has the whole story, half the story, a piece of the story or whatever - in the end who gives a half a shit - aint' NONE of this paying your bills and if it is, it fully explains why some noses are so ****ing far outta joint. Grow the **** up and move the **** on - all of you. Get a ****ING LIFE BEYOND LAST SATURDAY NITE/SUNDAY AFTERNOON! Why some of y'all constantly feel the MFing need to justify shit is beyond me - men are 12 times worse than women with keeping beef. This board shows it time and time again! Every day is like the first ****ing day here - do I even believe this shit? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes everyone has their opinion, Leslie, but before people go on accusing.. they might want to check out the facts. Remember there are three sides to a story. And while you might not care about people being accused of something they didn't do... I think the person accused does. You can't go around trying to mess up someones reputation and think it ok.
And if you just ignore things it will continue to happen again and again... Why would people want to trip over the same rock twice?
graemlins/conf44.gif
Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JL:
there's obviously at least 2 ways in which dhp members view professionalism with regards to promoting. both sides have laid out their arguments ad nauseum, and neither camp is going to convince the other they are right. can we all agree to disagree and move on? Thank you I am so ****ing tired of all of this bullshit. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, beef, etc. I don't give a shit who has the whole story, half the story, a piece of the story or whatever - in the end who gives a half a shit - aint' NONE of this paying your bills and if it is, it fully explains why some noses are so ****ing far outta joint. Grow the **** up and move the **** on - all of you. Get a ****ING LIFE BEYOND LAST SATURDAY NITE/SUNDAY AFTERNOON! Why some of y'all constantly feel the MFing need to justify shit is beyond me - men are 12 times worse than women with keeping beef. This board shows it time and time again! Every day is like the first ****ing day here - do I even believe this shit? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes everyone has their opinion, Leslie, but before people go on accusing.. they might want to check out the facts. Remember there are three sides to a story. And while you might not care about people being accused of something they didn't do... I think the person accused does. You can't go around trying to mess up someones reputation and think it ok.
And if you just ignore things it will continue to happen again and again... Why would people want to trip over the same rock twice?
graemlins/conf44.gif </font>[/QUOTE]exactly, this is a critical point
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 09:42 AM
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite!
Querck
07-09-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite! I really don't want to defend myself anymore, especially because most people here agree that I didn't do anything wrong, and I firmly believe I had every right to complain. Did I have to ? No. But I chose to, and I'm glad.
The last thing I am is a hypocrite. Hey, I wasn't responsible for what happened last week-end. Why are you implying that it's my duty to investigate what happened? I shouldn't have to talk to GU (although I did) or the Shelter management. All of these issues are really between the Shelter and the dj's, and ultimately it was the responsibility of the Shelter to explain to the Shelterheads (forget customers, audience and all those other b.s. terms) why certain things didn't go according to plan. That's it period. Since I didn't get that explanation, I got mad.
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted!
GROOVE VICTIM
07-09-2003, 11:38 AM
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted!
And that's exactly what happened by atleast one individual. The Staff at the Shelter made up for some of the problems by asking other DJs to step in and play.
Querck
07-09-2003, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
I have pretty much stayed out of this whole discussion, but it kills me how you can get 10+ pages of bashing and discussion on negative issues, and so few pages of acknowlegement once reason is given from both Freddy and Glenn.
Bunch of f'ing ridiculous people. You wanna talk a bunch of stuff when it's all negative (whether justified or not) but can't stand up and acknowledge the reasoning when it's given.
f'ing stupid. graemlins/cussing.gif Keith,
To tell you the truth, I still don't get the reasoning, so there is nothing for me to acknowledge. I read Freddie's explanation, GU's explanation, and both lead to more questions than answers. Bottomline is that in the outside world (beyond the house scene) people get sued for shiit like this. Which just brings me back to the point I have been making all along--the lack of professionalism in our scene is astounding! And the worst part is that people put up with that, including me.
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite! I really don't want to defend myself anymore, especially because most people here agree that I didn't do anything wrong, and I firmly believe I had every right to complain. Did I have to ? No. But I chose to, and I'm glad.
The last thing I am is a hypocrite. Hey, I wasn't responsible for what happened last week-end. Why are you implying that it's my duty to investigate what happened? I shouldn't have to talk to GU (although I did) or the Shelter management. All of these issues are really between the Shelter and the dj's, and ultimately it was the responsibility of the Shelter to explain to the Shelterheads (forget customers, audience and all those other b.s. terms) why certain things didn't go according to plan. That's it period. Since I didn't get that explanation, I got mad.
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted! </font>[/QUOTE]so you did talk to GU cause ya know him...you obviously then knew what the deal with why he didn't go on..yet YOU came on here and stated that the SHELTER misrepresented
youre the one who misrepresented (and i mean lied) you knew the deal or could have known before you went online and maligned the club...
the bottom line from your own words is that you talk to GU and i'm sure you did so BEFORE you posted this thread...but you needed to just act like a lollipop ( starts with s and ends with r)
thanks for being stupid enough to play yourself...you saved me the trouble of having to..
Querck
07-09-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by mhd:
you want to hold robbi to a standard of professionalism yet d-boy has no standard for accuracy, respect, decency, how about gratitude? Sorry, but I was accurate in stating the fact that 5 dj's didn't play. I am very grateful to the Shelter and have expressed that on this board many times. I don't have respect for lack of professionalism, which led me to be less decent than I wanted to be.
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite! I really don't want to defend myself anymore, especially because most people here agree that I didn't do anything wrong, and I firmly believe I had every right to complain. Did I have to ? No. But I chose to, and I'm glad.
The last thing I am is a hypocrite. Hey, I wasn't responsible for what happened last week-end. Why are you implying that it's my duty to investigate what happened? I shouldn't have to talk to GU (although I did) or the Shelter management. All of these issues are really between the Shelter and the dj's, and ultimately it was the responsibility of the Shelter to explain to the Shelterheads (forget customers, audience and all those other b.s. terms) why certain things didn't go according to plan. That's it period. Since I didn't get that explanation, I got mad.
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted! </font>[/QUOTE]so you did talk to GU cause ya know him...you obviously then knew what the deal with why he didn't go on..yet YOU came on here and stated that the SHELTER misrepresented
youre the one who misrepresented (and i mean lied) you knew the deal or could have known before you went online and maligned the club...
the bottom line from your own words is that you talk to GU and i'm sure you did so BEFORE you posted this thread...but you needed to just act like a lollipop ( starts with s and ends with r)
thanks for being stupid enough to play yourself...you saved me the trouble of having to.. </font>[/QUOTE]and ps...don't bother to try to cover your ass now with any editing as i've already copied and pasted your original thoughts for my hall of shame
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
you want to hold robbi to a standard of professionalism yet d-boy has no standard for accuracy, respect, decency, how about gratitude? Sorry, but I was accurate in stating the fact that 5 dj's didn't play. I am very grateful to the Shelter and have expressed that on this board many times. I don't have respect for lack of professionalism, which led me to be less decent than I wanted to be. </font>[/QUOTE]bullshit artistry...why didn't you just let GU carry his own water instead of criticizing Shelter for him...in your own words you stated you spoke with GU so you new the deal...mendacious SOB
Querck
07-09-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite! I really don't want to defend myself anymore, especially because most people here agree that I didn't do anything wrong, and I firmly believe I had every right to complain. Did I have to ? No. But I chose to, and I'm glad.
The last thing I am is a hypocrite. Hey, I wasn't responsible for what happened last week-end. Why are you implying that it's my duty to investigate what happened? I shouldn't have to talk to GU (although I did) or the Shelter management. All of these issues are really between the Shelter and the dj's, and ultimately it was the responsibility of the Shelter to explain to the Shelterheads (forget customers, audience and all those other b.s. terms) why certain things didn't go according to plan. That's it period. Since I didn't get that explanation, I got mad.
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted! </font>[/QUOTE]so you did talk to GU cause ya know him...you obviously then knew what the deal with why he didn't go on..yet YOU came on here and stated that the SHELTER misrepresented
youre the one who misrepresented (and i mean lied) you knew the deal or could have known before you went online and maligned the club...
the bottom line from your own words is that you talk to GU and i'm sure you did so BEFORE you posted this thread...but you needed to just act like a lollipop ( starts with s and ends with r)
thanks for being stupid enough to play yourself...you saved me the trouble of having to.. </font>[/QUOTE]Why is it so hard for you to understand that it's not my duty to investigate what happened? It's not my duty to understand the dynamics of the relationship between the promoter and the dj. BUT, it is the duty of the Shelter to deliver on their promises, and at least to notify the heads if something changed, and if that's not possible, to apologize. Also, don't get stuck on GU. What about the other 4 dj's? Phil Asher wasn't even in the US. Dope and Jazzy weren't in the club, so signs could have beem posted about this. C'mon Mark, who is stupid here?
Bill Blake
07-09-2003, 11:57 AM
Wait I just missed something....
Danny you talked with GU?
Did you aks him if he was or when he was going on?
What was his reply?
Querck
07-09-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
you want to hold robbi to a standard of professionalism yet d-boy has no standard for accuracy, respect, decency, how about gratitude? Sorry, but I was accurate in stating the fact that 5 dj's didn't play. I am very grateful to the Shelter and have expressed that on this board many times. I don't have respect for lack of professionalism, which led me to be less decent than I wanted to be. </font>[/QUOTE]bullshit artistry...why didn't you just let GU carry his own water instead of criticizing Shelter for him...in your own words you stated you spoke with GU so you new the deal...mendacious SOB </font>[/QUOTE]Because GU didn't promise me that he would be playing, but Shelter did, see the difference? It's Shelter's party--they are responsible.
Koffy Brown
07-09-2003, 11:58 AM
Can we get a freaking muzzle...
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
you want to hold robbi to a standard of professionalism yet d-boy has no standard for accuracy, respect, decency, how about gratitude? Sorry, but I was accurate in stating the fact that 5 dj's didn't play. I am very grateful to the Shelter and have expressed that on this board many times. I don't have respect for lack of professionalism, which led me to be less decent than I wanted to be. </font>[/QUOTE]you were inaccurate in stating that "shelter misrepresented" by inferring intent
GROOVE VICTIM
07-09-2003, 12:00 PM
(Singalong)
We're havin a party, while moms away...........
"What's Happening"
0322. "The Benefit Show"
P: Si Rose D: Mark Warren W: Joanne Pagliaro
The gang holds a benefit for a teen center. Rerun pretends to know Sammy
Davis, Jr. and has to produce him for the performance.
The difference here is that all the DJs were supposed to attend the party. Some didn't play for different reasons, but the staff made up for these circumstances.
Robbi and the Shelter Staff didn't lie like Re Run did.
Peace
Bill Blake
07-09-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
Because GU didn't promise me that he would be playing, but Shelter did, see the difference? It's Shelter's party--they are responsible. Your losing me here big time.
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by AshakiMzuri:
Can we get a freaking muzzle... yeah take yours off and share...but leave the leash on
Bold Soul
07-09-2003, 12:02 PM
Over 20 pages of posts and all I can think is that I HAVE to party at Shelter the next time I'm in NYC.
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
ps dannyboy aint sorry about shit
he had a chance to change the word "misrepresentaion" in his title and never did
had a chance to kick it with GU and has avoided that question like the plague (as well he should)
and he has the nerve to use the word hypocrite! I really don't want to defend myself anymore, especially because most people here agree that I didn't do anything wrong, and I firmly believe I had every right to complain. Did I have to ? No. But I chose to, and I'm glad.
The last thing I am is a hypocrite. Hey, I wasn't responsible for what happened last week-end. Why are you implying that it's my duty to investigate what happened? I shouldn't have to talk to GU (although I did) or the Shelter management. All of these issues are really between the Shelter and the dj's, and ultimately it was the responsibility of the Shelter to explain to the Shelterheads (forget customers, audience and all those other b.s. terms) why certain things didn't go according to plan. That's it period. Since I didn't get that explanation, I got mad.
Attention promoters, superstar dj's, and even the Shelter--don't take your fans for granted! </font>[/QUOTE]so you did talk to GU cause ya know him...you obviously then knew what the deal with why he didn't go on..yet YOU came on here and stated that the SHELTER misrepresented
youre the one who misrepresented (and i mean lied) you knew the deal or could have known before you went online and maligned the club...
the bottom line from your own words is that you talk to GU and i'm sure you did so BEFORE you posted this thread...but you needed to just act like a lollipop ( starts with s and ends with r)
thanks for being stupid enough to play yourself...you saved me the trouble of having to.. </font>[/QUOTE]Why is it so hard for you to understand that it's not my duty to investigate what happened? It's not my duty to understand the dynamics of the relationship between the promoter and the dj. BUT, it is the duty of the Shelter to deliver on their promises, and at least to notify the heads if something changed, and if that's not possible, to apologize. Also, don't get stuck on GU. What about the other 4 dj's? Phil Asher wasn't even in the US. Dope and Jazzy weren't in the club, so signs could have beem posted about this. C'mon Mark, who is stupid here? </font>[/QUOTE]shut your lyin piehole..you wanna post that bullshit be a man and own up to it...at the very least you could have let us all know you were GU's peeps when you posted but instead chose to "misrepresent" thru an act of ommission
I got you...
Dolemite73
07-09-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Over 20 pages of posts and all I can think is that I HAVE to party at Shelter the next time I'm in NYC. LOL.....I feel the same way
Koffy Brown
07-09-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AshakiMzuri:
Can we get a freaking muzzle... yeah take yours off and share...but leave the leash on </font>[/QUOTE]I'll share the ****ing muzzle ... whatever it takes....damn..... graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif
http://www.allpets.com/images/P1048.jpg
it's safe and humane....now shut the **** up...
Bold Soul
07-09-2003, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
Because GU didn't promise me that he would be playing, but Shelter did, see the difference? It's Shelter's party--they are responsible. Your losing me here big time. </font>[/QUOTE]It's easy to understand Jamie -
Dannyboy wants to bash someone, but he can't bash GU and stay on his jock, so he bashes Shelter because it's like bashing an institution, like Congress or the UN - no one individual has the finger pointed at them.
And I do concur with a notion from a previous thread - black people and establishments are held to a different standard. Clive Davis ****s people as much as P Diddy; Phil Spector shot some chick in his foyer - you dig what I'm saying?
Mutha****as act like someone revoked their Medicaid. It's just a club set. Have fun - shit.
Bill Blake
07-09-2003, 12:08 PM
Duty is a dirty word
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
(Singalong)
We're havin a party, while moms away...........
"What's Happening"
0322. "The Benefit Show"
P: Si Rose D: Mark Warren W: Joanne Pagliaro
The gang holds a benefit for a teen center. Rerun pretends to know Sammy
Davis, Jr. and has to produce him for the performance.
The difference here is that all the DJs were supposed to attend the party. Some didn't play for different reasons, but the staff made up for these circumstances.
Robbi and the Shelter Staff didn't lie like Re Run did.
Peace graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Keith Blackstone
07-09-2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
I have pretty much stayed out of this whole discussion, but it kills me how you can get 10+ pages of bashing and discussion on negative issues, and so few pages of acknowlegement once reason is given from both Freddy and Glenn.
Bunch of f'ing ridiculous people. You wanna talk a bunch of stuff when it's all negative (whether justified or not) but can't stand up and acknowledge the reasoning when it's given.
f'ing stupid. graemlins/cussing.gif Keith,
To tell you the truth, I still don't get the reasoning, so there is nothing for me to acknowledge. I read Freddie's explanation, GU's explanation, and both lead to more questions than answers. Bottomline is that in the outside world (beyond the house scene) people get sued for shiit like this. Which just brings me back to the point I have been making all along--the lack of professionalism in our scene is astounding! And the worst part is that people put up with that, including me. </font>[/QUOTE]My point is that you did not acknowledge Glenn's post nor Freddy's... if you have something to say, cool, but acknowledge when people try to give an answer. Other then what Glenn and Freddy said, nobody has any answers, so keep it movin.
Also my statement wasn't only directed at you, but the other 20-odd coherts (sp?) who had something to say, but conveniently got quiet on the Glenn/Freddy posts.
AT LEAST BE F'ING CONSISTENT! graemlins/cussing.gif
[ July 09, 2003, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: Keith Blackstone ]
Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
Because GU didn't promise me that he would be playing, but Shelter did, see the difference? It's Shelter's party--they are responsible. Your losing me here big time. </font>[/QUOTE]icon_rofl.gif Wait so you want Shelter to pull GU to the turntables and make him play..
So the only person/entity that should be professionals here are the people throwing the event> NOT the people that agreed to play?
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 12:53 PM
thats why it gets out of hand cause cats got these hidden agendas...but when ya shovel off the bullshit under which they are nesting they scurry away like vermin
maggots
Querck
07-09-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
I have pretty much stayed out of this whole discussion, but it kills me how you can get 10+ pages of bashing and discussion on negative issues, and so few pages of acknowlegement once reason is given from both Freddy and Glenn.
Bunch of f'ing ridiculous people. You wanna talk a bunch of stuff when it's all negative (whether justified or not) but can't stand up and acknowledge the reasoning when it's given.
f'ing stupid. graemlins/cussing.gif Keith,
To tell you the truth, I still don't get the reasoning, so there is nothing for me to acknowledge. I read Freddie's explanation, GU's explanation, and both lead to more questions than answers. Bottomline is that in the outside world (beyond the house scene) people get sued for shiit like this. Which just brings me back to the point I have been making all along--the lack of professionalism in our scene is astounding! And the worst part is that people put up with that, including me. </font>[/QUOTE]My point is that you did not acknowledge Glenn's post nor Freddy's... if you have something to say, cool, but acknowledge when people try to give an answer. Other then what Glenn and Freddy said, nobody has any answers, so keep it movin.
Also my statement wasn't only directed at you, but the other 20-odd coherts (sp?) who had something to say, but conveniently got quiet on the Glenn/Freddy posts.
AT LEAST BE F'ING CONSISTENT! graemlins/cussing.gif </font>[/QUOTE]OK, I am officially acknowledging Glenn's and Freddie's responses, and I am officially stating that they are useless in clarifying anything.
icon_rofl.gif
and on and on and on and on ...
The Buddy Love Show
07-09-2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dannyboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Keith Blackstone:
I have pretty much stayed out of this whole discussion, but it kills me how you can get 10+ pages of bashing and discussion on negative issues, and so few pages of acknowlegement once reason is given from both Freddy and Glenn.
Bunch of f'ing ridiculous people. You wanna talk a bunch of stuff when it's all negative (whether justified or not) but can't stand up and acknowledge the reasoning when it's given.
f'ing stupid. graemlins/cussing.gif Keith,
To tell you the truth, I still don't get the reasoning, so there is nothing for me to acknowledge. I read Freddie's explanation, GU's explanation, and both lead to more questions than answers. Bottomline is that in the outside world (beyond the house scene) people get sued for shiit like this. Which just brings me back to the point I have been making all along--the lack of professionalism in our scene is astounding! And the worst part is that people put up with that, including me. </font>[/QUOTE]My point is that you did not acknowledge Glenn's post nor Freddy's... if you have something to say, cool, but acknowledge when people try to give an answer. Other then what Glenn and Freddy said, nobody has any answers, so keep it movin.
Also my statement wasn't only directed at you, but the other 20-odd coherts (sp?) who had something to say, but conveniently got quiet on the Glenn/Freddy posts.
AT LEAST BE F'ING CONSISTENT! graemlins/cussing.gif </font>[/QUOTE]OK, I am officially acknowledging Glenn's and Freddie's responses, and I am officially stating that they are useless in clarifying anything. </font>[/QUOTE]at least your boys was...what happened did you to huddle up to try and get a story straight
don't worry i'll still play the Bill Duke role in Menace to Society..."ya see, ya ****ed up"
and i am officially stating...bullshit!
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