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The Buddy Love Show

11-20-2003, 07:12 AM

Huge bomb blasts in Turkey reported this morning. Targets were all British institutions. Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility. Asshole president is to blame as the fanatics are bringing it on.

Leslie

11-20-2003, 08:24 AM

November 20, 2003
At Least 25 Killed, 320 Hurt; Bush and Blair Condemn Attacks
By CHRISTINE HAUSER

Explosions blasted the British consulate and the international bank HSBC in Istanbul today, and a television station reported that more than two dozen people were killed in the blasts, which were so powerful that they sheared the face off the buildings and rocked nearby houses.

CNN television said it had confirmed that 25 people were killed and the number of wounded was more than 320. The attack came less than a week after suicide bomb blasts at two Jewish synagogues in the city, in which 25 people were killed, including the bombers.

The attack today appeared to be timed with the visit to Britain by President Bush. At the start of a news conference in London, Mr. Bush said terrorists hoped to intimidate and demoralize free nations. "They are not going to succeed," he said.

Mr. Bush said Britain, the United States and other allies were "united in our determination to fight and defeat this evil wherever it is found."

Prime Minister Tony Blair called it a "terrorist outrage." He said an "unshakeable unity of purpose" was required to confront terrorism side by side with the United States.

"Our response is not to flinch, give way or concede one inch," Mr. Blair said, linking the response to the attacks in Turkey to strikes in Iraq and elsewhere.

"We will finish the job we have begun," Mr. Bush said, referring to Iraq.

In London, the British foreign minister, Jack Straw, said that three or four consulate employees did not show up for roll call after the blasts in Istanbul, which he called an "appalling act of terrorism."

He did not give the nationalities of the employees.

"At this stage we can't say for certain who is responsible," he said in remarks broadcast on television, "but I'm afraid to say it has all the hallmarks of international terrorism practised by Al Qaeda and associated organizations."

CNN in Turkey quoted a witness, Mehmet Celik, as saying he saw a brown van with an open back driving toward the British consulate just before the blast.

CNN showed bodies covered in blood being carried from the scene of the blast, and people staggering away clamping their hands on their bloody wounds.

On Wednesday, Turkish authorities named two Turkish citizens as the suicide bombers who carried out the attacks on the synagogues last Saturday.

The Istanbul governor, Muammer Guler, said at a news conference on Wednesday that there were parallels with attacks by Al Qaeda. The bombings last Saturday were the worst terrorist attack in the republic's 80-year history.

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November 20, 2003
Britain Says Strikes Have Al Qaeda Hallmarks
By REUTERS

Filed at 5:46 a.m. ET

LONDON (Reuters) - British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said that attacks on Thursday on Britain's consulate and other targets in Istanbul bore all the hallmarks of the al Qaeda network.

``At this stage we can't say for certain who is responsible...but I'm afraid to say it has all the hallmarks of international terrorism practiced by al Qaeda and associated organizations,'' Straw told reporters.

Straw added that three or four employees at the British consulate had not replied to a roll call.

``We are obviously making every effort to identify what has happened to those individuals,'' Straw added, speaking outside Prime Minister Tony Blair's Downing Street residence.

The foreign secretary said he would make a statement on the attacks to parliament later on Thursday, and that Blair and President Bush, who is visiting London, would comment on what Straw called an ``appalling act of terrorism'' at a later news conference.

Bush is on a three-day state visit to London. Opponents of the Iraq war were scheduled to take to the capital's streets in their tens of thousands on Thursday.

A second blast on Thursday destroyed part of the HSBC Bank HSBA.L headquarters in Istanbul. Turkish television quoted health officials as saying at least five people had died in the blasts and 169 were injured.

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November 20, 2003
Car Bombs Hit Iraq, at Least Six Dead
By REUTERS

Filed at 7:16 a.m. ET

KIRKUK, Iraq (Reuters) - A suicide car bomber killed at least four people in an attack near the offices of a leading Kurdish party in northern Iraq on Thursday, hours after two others were killed in a car bombing west of Baghdad.

The attacks near the Kirkuk offices of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) -- whose leader is currently head of Iraq's U.S.-appointed Governing Council -- and a U.S.-backed local council, appeared to be targeted against the U.S.-led occupation.

In Kirkuk, around 150 miles north of Baghdad, a huge explosion threw up a cloud of black smoke, shaking buildings across town. The blast flattened a wall around the green painted headquarters of the PUK, and shattered windows at a nearby primary school, wounding several children.

``I am 100 percent sure it was a suicide bombing,'' said police officer Shwan Majid Karim.

Hospital officials put the death toll at four plus the bomber, whose remains were brought to the hospital in a bag. They said the toll could rise as body fragments were still being found strewn across a town square. More than 30 people were wounded.

On Wednesday night, a car bomb blast struck the offices of a U.S.-appointed local council in Ramadi, west of Baghdad. Local officials said two people were killed and eleven were wounded, including the council leader.

Witnesses said it was also a suicide attack but that could not be confirmed by police.

``A car filled with explosives came fast. The driver blew himself up inside the car,'' a resident living nearby said.

STRING OF ATTACKS

The Ramadi strike was one of a string of attacks on targets linked to the U.S.-led occupation in the flashpoint town. A tribal leader known for cooperating with the Americans was killed and a police chief's son was wounded in the space of a few hours, witnesses said.

In Kirkuk, local PUK leader Jalal Jawhar said he believed his office was the target of the attack. PUK leader, Jalal Talabani, was in Turkey on Thursday in his role as head of the Governing Council.

``The real target was the Iraqi people, the nation and political parties,'' Jawhar told Reuters. ``I think this explosion was the work of remnants of the old regime or Islamic militants.''

The fresh violence came as President Bush prepared to face huge protests in London against the U.S. war in Iraq and a day after he made a staunch defense of his military policy in a speech on the first day of a state visit to Britain.

In the address, Bush vowed not to leave Iraq despite the rising death toll inflicted by insurgents, saying the alliance had not paid a high price in casualties and liberated millions of people ``only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins.''

At the United Nations, the United States and Britain are seeking backing for their agenda to hand over power to Iraqis. But Russia on Wednesday criticized U.S. plans for not engaging the United Nations further in the transition process.

Ramadi, where attacks on U.S. forces and Iraqis seen as cooperating with them are common, is to become a test case for the handover of power to Iraqis.

In January, U.S. soldiers hand over security responsibility in the flashpoint town to the Iraqi police.

But the new attacks were a reminder of how uncertain and dangerous Iraq's security situation remains more than seven months after U.S. troops overthrew Saddam Hussein.

Paul Bremer, the U.S. appointed governor in Iraq, told an Italian newspaper in remarks published on Wednesday that the country was ``around 90 percent quiet, normal and at peace,'' but the attacks appeared in sharp contrast with that view.

RELENTLESS VIOLENCE

In Kerbala, a Shi'ite city south of Baghdad, a bomb exploded in a primary school on Wednesday afternoon, killing at least two schoolboys and wounding several others, witnesses and a local doctor said. Pools of blood smeared the classroom floor.

In the southern city of Basra, a municipal council official from the Assyrian Democratic Movement was found dead on Wednesday, a day after he was abducted, colleagues said.

Determined to quell what appears to be a deepening anti-American insurgency throughout the country, U.S. forces pushed ahead with new offensives overnight, dropping bombs and firing missiles at suspected guerrilla hideouts.

The aggressive offensives -- dubbed Iron Hammer, Ivy Cyclone and Ivy Cyclone Two -- were launched nearly two weeks ago, after the downing of a Black Hawk helicopter near Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, to try to hit insurgents with full force.

As well as those operations, U.S. forces have stepped up their hunt for one of Saddam's top lieutenants, offering a reward of $10 million on Wednesday for information leading to capture or death of Izzat Ibrahim.

Ibrahim, the most wanted man in Iraq after Saddam and number six on the list of the 55-most-wanted in the country, is accused of being directly behind some attacks on U.S. troops.

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ngeso

11-20-2003, 08:51 AM

the British consul general died in the latest attack.

i.be.me

11-20-2003, 09:06 AM

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darrow

11-20-2003, 09:15 AM

so I'm wondering...

How many terrorist attacks have occurred since 9/11? Since Mar 2003? Since the "official war in Iraq" was over? Those stats would be interesting to know. I don't think Mr. Bush's War on Terrorism is having it's intended effect.

The Buddy Love Show

11-20-2003, 09:17 AM

"Don't cry for me Argentina"

the british gov't is despicable

too bad the consul had to get it but thats how it is when you declare war

my nonchalnce is due to the fact that we ( the US and British) endorsed low level warfare ( aka terrorism ) against the govts of Nicaragua and Lebanon and the IRA...its just the chickens coming home to roost - to quote Malcolm

The Buddy Love Show

11-20-2003, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by darrow:
so I'm wondering...

How many terrorist attacks have occurred since 9/11? Since Mar 2003? Since the "official war in Iraq" was over? Those stats would be interesting to know. I don't think Mr. Bush's War on Terrorism is having it's intended effect. Shits about as effective as the "War On Drugs"

MusicFilter

11-20-2003, 09:20 AM

Hmmm let's see. We took over a country base on lies. We killed that dictators sons and brocast the images where ever we could and we never found the two guys we thought responsible for 9/11. :rolleyes:

We are not only going to get paid back, anyone associated with the US is going to get kick in the ass. It's a sad thing but violence begets violence. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

God help us all. graemlins/mecry.gif

The Buddy Love Show

11-20-2003, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by chgodj3:
Hmmm let's see. We took over a country base on lies. We killed that dictators sons and brocast the images where ever we could and we never found the two guys we thought responsible for 9/11. :rolleyes:

We are not only going to get paid back, anyone associated with the US is going to get kick in the ass. It's a sad thing but violence begets violence. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

God help us all. graemlins/mecry.gif what goes around comes around. the US and Britain have SPONSORED terrorism in Cuba, S Africa, Namibia, The Congo, Sudan, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, Indonesia, Phillipines..in short everywhere...AND FOR A LONG FUCKING TIME...now the oppressed are striking back and using the methods we trained them in ( look at the history of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda - they were CIA sponsorec to commit mayhem against Soviet interests)

Welcome the madness and revel in it because it is here to stay.

We've sown the wind now let us rreap the hurricanes

shannoneileen

11-20-2003, 09:31 AM

Dolemite73

11-20-2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
"Don't cry for me Argentina"

the british gov't is despicable

too bad the consul had to get it but thats how it is when you declare war

my nonchalnce is due to the fact that we ( the US and British) endorsed low level warfare ( aka terrorism ) against the govts of Nicaragua and Lebanon and the IRA...its just the chickens coming home to roost - to quote Malcolm Don't forget about our endorsement of Osama during the Russian Afghan conflicts.

The Buddy Love Show

11-20-2003, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Dolemite73:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
"Don't cry for me Argentina"

the british gov't is despicable

too bad the consul had to get it but thats how it is when you declare war

my nonchalnce is due to the fact that we ( the US and British) endorsed low level warfare ( aka terrorism ) against the govts of Nicaragua and Lebanon and the IRA...its just the chickens coming home to roost - to quote Malcolm Don't forget about our endorsement of Osama during the Russian Afghan conflicts. [/QUOTE]People always wonder why the American government is hated in other parts of the world. Its because of the misery we have encouraged elsewhere with impunity and without fear of documentation or reprisal. The only fools who are oblivious to this are the idiots living in the US.

We are also kept in a state of xenophobia because we are told that those damn foreigners hate America and our way of life. BULLSHIT!!! Wherever you go people love American culture and can't get enough of it - its our politics and hypocrisy that they resent

OUR policies are what is leading us down this road and the US is the worlds #1 exporter of terrorism

shannoneileen

11-20-2003, 10:02 AM

melik

11-20-2003, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
"Don't cry for me Argentina"

the british gov't is despicable

too bad the consul had to get it but thats how it is when you declare war

my nonchalnce is due to the fact that we ( the US and British) endorsed low level warfare ( aka terrorism ) against the govts of Nicaragua and Lebanon and the IRA...its just the chickens coming home to roost - to quote Malcolm Don't forget about our endorsement of Osama during the Russian Afghan conflicts. [/QUOTE]People always wonder why the American government is hated in other parts of the world. Its because of the misery we have encouraged elsewhere with impunity and without fear of documentation or reprisal. The only fools who are oblivious to this are the idiots living in the US.

We are also kept in a state of xenophobia because we are told that those damn foreigners hate America and our way of life. BULLSHIT!!! Wherever you go people love American culture and can't get enough of it - its our politics and hypocrisy that they resent

OUR policies are what is leading us down this road and the US is the worlds #1 exporter of terrorism [/QUOTE]so true.... no anti-american, but a few anti-bush...

by the way, can anyone from inside the US tell me what really happened a few month ago with this anti french movement, just because we didn't want to wage a war without the UN, and didnt want to obey when master was barking orders without proof. was the anti-french thing that bad in the everyday/everyone life ????
(obviously, i'm french....) graemlins/cool_shades.gif

SHEIK YERBOUTI

11-20-2003, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Shannon_Shawan:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dolemite73:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by St Magus the Reviled:
"Don't cry for me Argentina"

the british gov't is despicable

too bad the consul had to get it but thats how it is when you declare war

my nonchalnce is due to the fact that we ( the US and British) endorsed low level warfare ( aka terrorism ) against the govts of Nicaragua and Lebanon and the IRA...its just the chickens coming home to roost - to quote Malcolm Don't forget about our endorsement of Osama during the Russian Afghan conflicts. [/QUOTE]Didn't we arm Sadaam when he first wanted to do battle with Kuwait(sp)?

We are hypocrites...

I also heard that the Bush family had ties with Hitler and/or eugenics or something like that...

Are our soldiers playing out some Bush family fantasy or something? [/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Prescott Bush was an oilman who made the Bush family fortune selling oil to the Nazis in WW2.

[ November 20, 2003, 10:26 AM: Message edited by: toomuchtv ]

DJ76

11-20-2003, 10:31 AM

I was watching the Bush-Blair press-conference this afternoon. Bush repeated that these bombings proved that the war against terrorism was necessary. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif

Bold Soul

11-20-2003, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by DJ76:
I was watching the Bush-Blair press-conference this afternoon. Bush repeated that these bombings proved that the war against terrorism was necessary. graemlins/jpshakehead.gif Orwellian...

http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/redlightrunner/1984.mov

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