Advice on gettin' paid at tha club

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Do you ask the owner to pay you a set fee or do you settle for a percentage of the bar? If so, what is a fair percentage to ask for and what happens if it's a slow night and it looks like you might get crapola for the night? Advise please. Thank you for your cooperation. http://66.227.101.70/otn/glasses/smokin.gif

[mdpm99]

Flat fee

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[Martin Red]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
Flat fee

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Or... give them two case scenarios if your not established in that geographical location, if you take less than $___ you give me $____, if you take more you pay me $_______

[ July 22, 2003, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Martin Red ]

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hmmmmmmm...interesting... http://deephousepage.com/smilies/scratchchin.gif

[mdpm99]

kept it simple......flat fee

[Jolyon]

Flat fee without exception.

I've had my fingers burned from the "we'll give you a percentage of the bar" line.

Unfortunately some people will lie to you about how much they have taken and try to rip you off. Sad but true.

[Jolyon]

P.S. Percentage of the bar is also a handy device that owners can use to put pressure on the DJ. It is not the DJ's job always to promote, and yet with percentage of the bar you're under pressure to fill the place up. That should be the manager's job, not the DJ. They will happily pass the buck on to the DJ (who has enough to worry about already without promoting too). Some DJs are great promoters, but it shouldn't really be there job if you're doing something for a professional outfit.

[D J 1 3 8]

Flat fee. Always.

As mentioned before, bar managers are notorious liars. Not to mention the fact that bartenders are notorious thieves. So you can possibly get shorted by two different people.

Flat fee.

[mdpm99]

Jolyon.....

u r hitting all the nails on the head.....

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ps

When I use to rent out (on occasion) I would simply just ask for a flat rent. I would tell the "tenant" --- "I hope you make a million dollars. For all I care you can sell real estate at your events....just kept everything legal."

Other than that I have also helped people get started with their parties by donating the space to them....but that was only when I could afford to do that.

[Jolyon]

David

I was curious about what has happened to the two locations of your lofts on Broadway and Prince Street. Is the Prince Street location now a hotel by the way? Anyway, it also hosts a bar in the basement. I read a review of the bar saying it is a top secret venue for the rich and famous and that only celebrity status or wealthy contacts will get you in. Something about that struck me as very sad when I thought about what was going on there 20 or so years ago. ie. one nation (all economic groups) dancing under a groove.

So, then I thought I would check to see who owned the Broadway building and rental and I was amazed to see that the rental per year on 647 Broadway was as follows...

SIZE: 2,000 Square Feet - Ground Floor
2,000 Square Feet - Basement
FRONTAGE: 18 Feet
CEILING HEIGHT: 14 Feet
ASKING RENTAL: $350,000 Per Annum
TERM: 9 1/2 Years

Interesting huh?

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Originally posted by Jolyon:
P.S. Percentage of the bar is also a handy device that owners can use to put pressure on the DJ. It is not the DJ's job always to promote, and yet with percentage of the bar you're under pressure to fill the place up. That should be the manager's job, not the DJ. They will happily pass the buck on to the DJ (who has enough to worry about already without promoting too). Some DJs are great promoters, but it shouldn't really be there job if you're doing something for a professional outfit. Great advice. Thanks, Jolyon! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by Jolyon:
David

I was curious about what has happened to the two locations of your lofts on Broadway and Prince Street. Is the Prince Street location now a hotel by the way? Anyway, it also hosts a bar in the basement. I read a review of the bar saying it is a top secret venue for the rich and famous and that only celebrity status or wealthy contacts will get you in. Something about that struck me as very sad when I thought about what was going on there 20 or so years ago. ie. one nation (all economic groups) dancing under a groove.

So, then I thought I would check to see who owned the Broadway building and rental and I was amazed to see that the rental per year on 647 Broadway was as follows...

SIZE: 2,000 Square Feet - Ground Floor
2,000 Square Feet - Basement
FRONTAGE: 18 Feet
CEILING HEIGHT: 14 Feet
ASKING RENTAL: $350,000 Per Annum
TERM: 9 1/2 Years

Interesting huh? 647 B'way: I was on the second floor. Paid $175.per month including gas and electric!

99 Prince - Ground floor - clothing store - (Jay clothing?) ....upstairs I think is a hotel.

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[Nege]

Flat Fee

[blackwax]

Originally posted by Albert Diaz:
Do you ask the owner to pay you a set fee or do you settle for a percentage of the bar? If so, what is a fair percentage to ask for and what happens if it's a slow night and it looks like you might get crapola for the night? Advise please. Thank you for your cooperation. http://66.227.101.70/otn/glasses/smokin.gif TOO GET PAID YOU NEED TO BE GOOD biggrinangel.gif

[ngeso]

allways flat fee;
try and calculate what kind of money is likely to be made and go for no less than 20% of the door takings/10% of total takings as a break-even.

better yet: try and get the door off the owner, hook up a couple of friends with some moonlighting, and make a killing biggrinangel.gif