Oscar Got Robbed!

[AK]

Ridiculous! Threw twice as many punches, landed twice as many, and had a far higher connect percentage. Was never knocked down or even hurt. How could he lose? One word: Vegas.

[ September 14, 2003, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: AK ]

[MyNia]

I gotta agree with you. Going in I thought Shane was going to win. As the fight progressed even his corner thought he had lost the fight. They were even lying to him telling him Oscar was hurting, he almost quit. Even Shane was shocked when they said he won the fight. Oscar handled it like a champ though, no crying at the end just said he would dispute it.

[Ken1015]

That decision was total bullschit!! Another sorry moment in the history of boxing. It's stuff like that gives the sport a bad rap and sometimes makes me want to give it up. Pitiful! graemlins/cussing.gif

[The Compiler]

HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes???

[mhd]

don't believe the hype, oscar got smoked

[Ken1015]

graemlins/lol.gif I think you're the one that's been smoking.

[Fletch]

Moseley looked like he was the subject of a surprise birthday party when Michael Buffer announced "...and new..."

Oscar said that he would retire if he beat him. Oscar is Boxing's breadwinner. Do you see something here? III????

Only saw the second half of the fight. from 6-12, I had it 4-2 DeLaHoya. However, some of those late rounds could have went either way. Peace.

[AD]

Mosley is a piece of shit! Oscar was straight up robbed and anyone that doesn't think so was watching some other fight or you're on crack. That was one of the biggest fuggen flukes I've ever seen. Oscar gave that beeotch his ass and Mosely still won? Give me a fuggen break!! F those paid judges!! That shit was rigged straight up!

[ September 14, 2003, 02:15 AM: Message edited by: Albert Diaz ]

[dennis f]

HAHAHA!!!

Man I can see Shane now....

"On the first dsy of Christmas Las Vegas gave to me.....
3 bags of money
2 Title Belts
1 black eye
and a mansion with a bunch of pear trees....." graemlins/rofl.gif graemlins/rofl.gif

you know I don't think he got whooped but Oscar took him to school. A very tactical and smartly fought fight by Oscar. I may not like his cheesy golden boy shit but he keeps on convincing me that he's a consumate champion. He adjusted his game plan and this is what champions do. Props to him....but I'm very dissapointed in Shane. How can you possibly stand there and accept those belts...I woulda just told Oscar.."hold on them bruh..You really won.." Mf'ers be ego trippin'

laters

[Jozana]

Originally posted by AK:
Ridiculous! Threw twice as many punches, landed twice as many, and had a far higher connect percentage. Was never knocked down or even hurt. How could he lose? One word: Vegas. I missed the fight tonight but in the past Oscar has won his fair share of bullshit decisions in Las Vegas. Ike Quartey beat the shit out of Oscar from beginning to end and Oscar got the decision. He got his ass whupped by Pernell Whittaker and got the decision and that fight was also in Vegas. So if he got robbed tonight(and i repeat, I didn't see the fight)maybe it was a case of the chickens coming home to roost.

[DJ Rated M]

Originally posted by The Compiler:
HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes??? word! Pernell WHOOPED that ass & got robbed...where was all of the complainers then?????

[Djay Raare]

That was not cool at all that Oscar lost he kicked his ass all 12 rounds did ya'll hear what mosley was saying some of the last few rounds heres one that I remember ( he got a good right ) or his dad (man you need to come up fight back)something like that but anyways he got straight robbed in front of every ones eyes it got set up some say it was because of his promoter on De la Hoyas part but I cant say graemlins/conf44.gif I still say & always will say De La Hoya WON THIS FIGHT!!! graemlins/cussing.gif

[Djay Raare]

I just got this from the sports section ///

Mosley Beats De La Hoya in Close, Unanimous Decision
Golden Boy Vowed to Retire if He Lost

By TIM DAHLBERG
.c The Associated Press

LAS VEGAS (Sept. 13) -- Shane Mosley's formula for beating Oscar De La Hoya goes something like this: Use speed, win the late rounds and hope the judges are kind.

It worked for Mosley three years ago, and it worked even better Saturday night.

Winning the last four rounds on all three scorecards, Mosley won a close but unanimous decision to beat De La Hoya for the second time and win the WBC and WBA 154-pound titles.

A contest that was either fighter's to win went to Mosley because he outworked a bloodied and tiring De La Hoya in the final rounds of a bout that was almost a carbon copy of the first fight they put on in June 2000.

The decision left De La Hoya outraged, while Mosley celebrated the rebirth of a career that stalled with two losses to Vernon Forrest.

"I thought I won by one or two rounds,'' Mosley said. "He gave me a lot of movement. I knew I hurt him. He never hurt me.''

De La Hoya said he planned to hire lawyers Monday to investigate the decision.

"I'm not doing this because I'm a sore loser,'' De La Hoya said. "I'm doing this for the sport of boxing.''

But Marc Ratner, director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, said the result wasn't out of line.

"There's nothing to protest,'' Ratner said. "It was a judges decision.''

In a fight almost as close as the first one, Mosley was the busier and faster fighter, beating De La Hoya to the punch and staying away from the left hook De La Hoya used to knock out his last two opponents.

De La Hoya was leading on two scorecards and even on a third midway through the fight, but Mosley won the last five rounds on two cards and the last four on a third.

"It happened in the (Felix) Trinidad fight and it happened here,'' De La Hoya said. "I thought I won the fight. I didn't even think it was close.''

All three judges did, though, scoring it 115-113 for Mosley, who won a split decision the first time the two met. The Associated Press had Mosley winning 116-113.

The fight meant far more to De La Hoya than a few gaudy belts. He vowed before the bout to retire if he lost again to Mosley.

"I love the sport. I love boxing. I love fighting like a warrior,'' he said. "I'm not sure what will happen.''

Just like the first fight, Mosley was fresher and faster in the later rounds, while De La Hoya looked weary and tried to win rounds by fighting in flurries in the final seconds.

The fight before a sellout crowd of 16,268 at the MGM Grand hotel was billed as redemption for De La Hoya, who lost to Mosley when both were young amateurs and again when they met as pros.

But it turned more into vindication for Mosley, whose career hit the skids when he lost twice to Vernon Forrest and who hadn't won a fight in more than two years.

"I think it could warrant a third fight whenever he wants to do it,'' Mosley said.

De La Hoya wasn't so willing.

"No, he beat me twice,'' he said. "That's it.''

Mosley was the aggressor throughout, though he pressed the action only in spurts. By the late rounds, though, he was putting on more pressure, and the fighters went toe-to-toe in a hotly paced final round before the bell rang and they hugged like two warriors who had given their all.

De La Hoya was guaranteed $17 million, though he agreed to pay Mosley $500,000 of that if he lost. By winning, Mosley pocketed $5 million.

The money, though, wasn't De La Hoya's biggest motivation. He desperately wanted to avenge one of only two defeats in a remarkable career in which he has won titles in five weight classes and earned some $150 million in the ring.

By the 12th round, that desperation seemed to show as De La Hoya came out and the two met in the center of the ring and threw punches almost nonstop for the first minute.

"We were never concerned in the corner,'' De La Hoya's trainer, Floyd Mayweather, said. "We never even thought of losing. It never crossed our minds.''

There were questions about Mosley's power at 154 pounds, a weight he had gone only two full rounds at before. But he seemed to land the bigger punches and had a big ninth round where he rocked De La Hoya on several occasions.

"I felt such overwhelming power throughout the fight,'' Mosley said.

Punch stats showed De La Hoya landed 221 punches to 127 for Mosley, though most of Mosley's punches were power punches while De La Hoya's were jabs.

The partisan De La Hoya crowd packed the hotel arena looking for the fight of the year. De La Hoya was a 2-1 favorite, and he said he had found a way to negate Mosley's speed in the rematch.

The first few rounds were fought cautiously, but the tempo of the fight seemed to pick up after De La Hoya (39-3, 29 knockouts) was cut next to his right eye during a clash of heads early in the fourth round. By the end of the fifth round, the fighters were going at it toe-to-toe, much to the pleasure of the crowd.

"You let him steal that round,'' Mosley's father, Jack, told his son after the fifth round.

"No I didn't,'' Mosley replied.

De La Hoya was bleeding from the fourth round on from a cut next to his right eye caused by the head butt. But it never seemed to affect his vision in a fight that had no knockdowns.

Midway through, Jack Mosley was urging his son to press the action so De La Hoya couldn't win a close decision.

It proved to be wise fatherly advice.

"My father was trying to convey to me since we're in Las Vegas and it's Oscar's town we had to pour it on in the last rounds,'' Mosley said.

Mosley (39-2, 35 knockouts) did just that, pressing the action and dictating the tempo.

Mosley had been unhappy about his purse, threatening not to sign a contract until De La Hoya agreed to give him the extra $500,000 if he won. At the end of the fight he was that much richer, but money wasn't everything.

"I would have been heartbroken to lose in the ring after losing the negotiations outside the ring,'' Mosley said.

graemlins/cussing.gif graemlins/cussing.gif This is bullSHiiT!!!! mad1.gif

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Compiler:
HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes??? word! Pernell WHOOPED that ass & got robbed...where was all of the complainers then????? </font>[/QUOTE]Whitaker hardly got hit in that fight. Agreed.

[ChiJAM]

DLH did not get robbed. It was closer than the judges had it, though. I don't think DLH lost 7-5 on each scorecard--I think two 6-6 cards and a 7-5 in favor of Shane were in order. Shane caught up to him in the later rounds and hurt him a few times, too. DLH didn't backpedal like he did against Tito, but Mosley definitely took the fight to him in the later rounds. 4 of the 5 ringside sportswriters that Lampley polled had Mosley winning and Max Kellerman had Shane winning 8-4. I thought the fight would be more exciting--I should've saved my PPV money for RJJ v. Antonio Tarver...

ChiJAM

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Compiler:
HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes??? word! Pernell WHOOPED that ass & got robbed...where was all of the complainers then????? </font>[/QUOTE]Whitaker hardly got hit in that fight. Agreed. </font>[/QUOTE]Hardly threw any punches either. Whitaker could have beaten him - IF HE FAUGHT HIM.

Look - I didn't dig the "Golden Boy" shit back then either, but over the years, you take who this guy faught, all of his comebacks, the shitty decisions he's stomached just to return and smash some solid contenders and HE DOESN'T AVOID QUALITY OPPOSITION (like your brovas RRJ and Lennox Lewis) - you can see legimitacy.

He gives the fans the fights they want to see, gives the sport a legimitate champion in skill, class and style. You can't be successful and more handsome than everyone else, I guess.

And for all you people talking about cumuppance, what goes around NEVER comes back around. Especially not in boxing.

[Erob the One]

This decision was bad bad bad for the boxing sport. Las Vegas did not want to go broke so the fix was in. DLH keep his off with a strong jab all nite. Mosely got off in the last 4 round, but other than that he was dominated. Even his father said, "you have to knock him out now!" If he was convinced he was winnig he never would have told his fighter that. Man, I have seen some bad calls, but this one is historic. Late in the 10th round, I even told my peeps, "I don't trust the judges." By the way fck Larry Merchant in his drunk stank ass.

Erob

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Erob the One:
This decision was bad bad bad for the boxing sport. Las Vegas did not want to go broke so the fix was in. DLH keep his off with a strong jab all nite. Mosely got off in the last 4 round, but other than that he was dominated. Even his father said, "you have to knock him out now!" If he was convinced he was winnig he never would have told his fighter that. Man, I have seen some bad calls, but this one is historic. Late in the 10th round, I even told my peeps, "I don't trust the judges." By the way fck Larry Merchant in his drunk stank ass.

Erob Best line of the night - "You don't know boxing. You watch boxing.", George Foreman to Larry Merchant.

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Compiler:
HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes??? word! Pernell WHOOPED that ass & got robbed...where was all of the complainers then????? </font>[/QUOTE]Whitaker hardly got hit in that fight. Agreed. </font>[/QUOTE]Hardly threw any punches either. Whitaker could have beaten him - IF HE FAUGHT HIM.

Look - I didn't dig the "Golden Boy" shit back then either, but over the years, you take who this guy faught, all of his comebacks, the shitty decisions he's stomached just to return and smash some solid contenders and HE DOESN'T AVOID QUALITY OPPOSITION (like your brovas RRJ and Lennox Lewis) - you can see legimitacy.

He gives the fans the fights they want to see, gives the sport a legimitate champion in skill, class and style. You can't be successful and more handsome than everyone else, I guess.

And for all you people talking about cumuppance, what goes around NEVER comes back around. Especially not in boxing. </font>[/QUOTE]You cant be serious about Roy. He makes everyone else look illegitimate. He cleaned up all the divisions. He has to be considered one of the all-time bests. Who do you think he ducked? Who should he fight to gain legitmacy?

[Tee Cee 13]

Originally posted by mhd:
don't believe the hype, oscar got smoked ------------------------
What fight were you watching? What u mean Oscar got smoked.... Did u even see the match..... Your unreal......

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Rated M:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Compiler:
HISTORY HISTORY folks....calm down~!!
Remember Whitaker? Close fight then TOO...but who won?? What goes around.....

OK, now that you calmed down remember that Oscar the LOSER took home FOURTEEN MILLION dollars MORE than the winner, gets to go home to his STUNNING wife and maybe make an album next year.....
maybe some LLVega remixes??? word! Pernell WHOOPED that ass & got robbed...where was all of the complainers then????? </font>[/QUOTE]Whitaker hardly got hit in that fight. Agreed. </font>[/QUOTE]Hardly threw any punches either. Whitaker could have beaten him - IF HE FAUGHT HIM.

Look - I didn't dig the "Golden Boy" shit back then either, but over the years, you take who this guy faught, all of his comebacks, the shitty decisions he's stomached just to return and smash some solid contenders and HE DOESN'T AVOID QUALITY OPPOSITION (like your brovas RRJ and Lennox Lewis) - you can see legimitacy.

He gives the fans the fights they want to see, gives the sport a legimitate champion in skill, class and style. You can't be successful and more handsome than everyone else, I guess.

And for all you people talking about cumuppance, what goes around NEVER comes back around. Especially not in boxing. </font>[/QUOTE]You cant be serious about Roy. He makes everyone else look illegitimate. He cleaned up all the divisions. He has to be considered one of the all-time bests. Who do you think he ducked? Who should he fight to gain legitmacy? </font>[/QUOTE]Best news for this RJJ fan since day 1 is that he's giving Antonio Tarver a shot - FINALLY, a legimitate contender.

He's avoided Tarver, Darius Michalczewski, a totally different Bernard Hopkins and a few other legimitately ranked contenders to fight a part-time police boxer, two club fighters and a number of hand-picked nobodies for huge paydays.

Shit - against John Ruiz, the ref gave him the night by limiting bodily contact that is the norm for heavyweight fights - ESPECIALLY TITLE FIGHTS.

RJJ is the only Golden Boy I can see - he can't lose. No one will allow it.

(disclaimer - he's still the best pound for pound, period, hands down. I wouldn't fight him.)

[ September 14, 2003, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Bold Soul ]

[DJ Timmy Richardson]

And when he destroys Tarver you and everyone else will say he wasnt a legit opponent.Thats how Roy makes everyone look. You'll see.

[Erob the One]

RJJ is going to give Tarver the ass whooping he has been waiting on.

Erob

[Huey P. Freeman]

Oscar did not get robbed. The fight was way closer than most of you guys and the the HBO announcers were making it out to be. Oscar and Shane IMO fought to a draw. Both won an equal number of rounds. Oscar fought a very intelligent fight and kept Shane out of his game in the early rounds. But just like every other Oscar fight I've seen he faded in the end and look very tired and was getting rocked in the later rounds. Those who have asserted that Oscar was not hurt at any time in that fight were watching a completely different fight than what I saw. Oscar got hurt at least 3 times from rounds 9 thru 12. The reasons IMO that the judges and 5 out of 6 ringside writers had Shane as the winner:
1. Oscar did the patented late round fade.
2. Although Oscar fought well in the early rounds he NEVER hurt Shane.
3.Shane was hitting Oscar with much more power.
4. The fight was very close. (People are so easily influenced. If the ringside announcer says a fighter is losing that doesn't really mean anything.)
5. Oscar hit Shane a lot more punches but they were jabs, his power punches were completely ineffective.

A few more things, I think Shane fought him much better than Tito did. And Tito won. I'll agree that Shane did not win the fight, but neither did Oscar. The only travisty I would say was that it was a unanamous(SP?) descision. The first fight should have been this one should not.

[ September 14, 2003, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: Eargasm ]

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Erob the One:
This decision was bad bad bad for the boxing sport. Las Vegas did not want to go broke so the fix was in. DLH keep his off with a strong jab all nite. Mosely got off in the last 4 round, but other than that he was dominated. Even his father said, "you have to knock him out now!" If he was convinced he was winnig he never would have told his fighter that. Man, I have seen some bad calls, but this one is historic. Late in the 10th round, I even told my peeps, "I don't trust the judges." By the way fck Larry Merchant in his drunk stank ass.

Erob Best line of the night - "You don't know boxing. You watch boxing.", George Foreman to Larry Merchant. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually I thought he was out of line for the comment. That would be like saying because someone has never spun or produced records they don't know house. Complete bullshit. That was some personal shit between George and Larry.

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
And when he destroys Tarver you and everyone else will say he wasnt a legit opponent.Thats how Roy makes everyone look. You'll see. Not me - I know all about RJJ. He's incredible. It still doesn't make me overlook the fact he's been fighting chumps more than quality opponents. There are some unbeaten unknowns with some real skill in the boxing game. His people kept choosing chumps for him.

[AK]

Boxing is obviously a very subjective sport. However, I watched the fight with 5 or 6 fellas and we all agreed that Oscar won handily. In fact, we had a little betting action going and the only cat who had Shane in 12 refused to take the pot! By their reactions to the decision, there's also no question that Shane and his corner knew he had lost. I still haven't heard an explanation of how Shane won when the stats told an entirely different story. To me, if you were dominated in the stats, then to win you had to have had some dramatic punching moments and at least have seriously rocked the guy. Shane did land a couple of hard punches, but so did Oscar (like the right hand that sent Shane's mouthpiece flying!). I had it a generous to Shane 8-4 for Oscar. I thought Oscar was just sharper, executed better and was in control of the fight in almost every round. Shane seemed confused, hesitant to throw punches and totally without a plan. But maybe that's just me.

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by AK:
Boxing is obviously a very subjective sport. However, I watched the fight with 5 or 6 fellas and we all agreed that Oscar won handily. In fact, we had a little betting action going and the only cat who had Shane in 12 refused to take the pot! By their reactions to the decision, there's also no question that Shane and his corner knew he had lost. I still haven't heard an explanation of how Shane won when the stats told an entirely different story. To me, if you were dominated in the stats, then to win you had to have had some dramatic punching moments and at least have seriously rocked the guy. Shane did land a couple of hard punches, but so did Oscar (like the right hand that sent Shane's mouthpiece flying!). I had it a generous to Shane 8-4 for Oscar. I thought Oscar was just sharper, executed better and was in control of the fight in almost every round. Shane seemed confused, hesitant to throw punches and totally without a plan. But maybe that's just me. Oscar did not win the fight handily or otherwise. And you don't have to hit someone hard to knock their mouthpiece out. They only have to have it loose in their mouth. That was not a hard punch ( at least by boxing standards). He never hurt Shane. Shane hurt him multiple times. And also how do you explain that not only the judges but most of the sports writers had Shane as the winner? Maybe you and your boys did not see what you though you did. The Mosley corner probably thought that they had to have a decisively one sided fight to win a decision in Vegas(Considered by many to be Oscars home turf). That was the same line of thinking Titos camp had. I think you are reading too much into that.

[ September 14, 2003, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Eargasm ]

[mhd]

Originally posted by T.C. 13:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
don't believe the hype, oscar got smoked ------------------------
What fight were you watching? What u mean Oscar got smoked.... Did u even see the match..... Your unreal...... </font>[/QUOTE]yes i saw the fight, i suggest you watch it again, this time without sound, as alan stated, boxing is subjective and with all the hype the announcers and bitches like you were giving all of the benefit of the doubt to oscar. i suggest you read eargasm's posts, he said it all. forget about punch stats, unless you want to talk about power shots, shane rocked oscar in the 9th and beginning of the 12th, typically, oscar faded. press row scored it for shane, max scored it for shane, bert sugar scored it for shane. i know the agony of defeat is tough

[Huey P. Freeman]

One thing we all can agree on is that it was a hell of a fight and both are great fighters. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/fight.gif

[Part Sixx]

Hell, the fight I would pay to see is Larry Merchant & George Foreman! graemlins/grinyes.gif

[Huey P. Freeman]

Originally posted by Part Sixx:
Hell, the fight I would pay to see is Larry Merchant & George Foreman! graemlins/grinyes.gif Forman in 0:10.

[AK]

Originally posted by Eargasm:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AK:
Boxing is obviously a very subjective sport. However, I watched the fight with 5 or 6 fellas and we all agreed that Oscar won handily. In fact, we had a little betting action going and the only cat who had Shane in 12 refused to take the pot! By their reactions to the decision, there's also no question that Shane and his corner knew he had lost. I still haven't heard an explanation of how Shane won when the stats told an entirely different story. To me, if you were dominated in the stats, then to win you had to have had some dramatic punching moments and at least have seriously rocked the guy. Shane did land a couple of hard punches, but so did Oscar (like the right hand that sent Shane's mouthpiece flying!). I had it a generous to Shane 8-4 for Oscar. I thought Oscar was just sharper, executed better and was in control of the fight in almost every round. Shane seemed confused, hesitant to throw punches and totally without a plan. But maybe that's just me. Oscar did not win the fight handily or otherwise. And you don't have to hit someone hard to knock their mouthpiece out. They only have to have it loose in their mouth. That was not a hard punch ( at least by boxing standards). He never hurt Shane. Shane hurt him multiple times. And also how do you explain that not only the judges but most of the sports writers had Shane as the winner? Maybe you and your boys did not see what you though you did. The Mosley corner probably thought that they had to have a decisively one sided fight to win a decision in Vegas(Considered by many to be Oscars home turf). That was the same line of thinking Titos camp had. I think you are reading too much into that. </font>[/QUOTE]Read and respect your points. Still not buying it, thank you. Fight wasn't even close.

[mhd]

consider larry merchant's description of a blow rendered by shane to oscars grill in the first round during a replay between the first and second rounds. merchant begins to speak saying the blow does not knock oscar off stride, as he is saying it, oscar is clearly wobbled and nearly falls, in slow motion no less, merchant never modifies his comment or amends his words which obviously contradict what the replay is showing

[Sharp Eye Washington]

Helluva fight. I myself thought it was too close for an amateur like myself to score but I gave the nod to Oscar 6-5-1. Congrats to both fighters who put on an excellent show. Let's see how long he(Shane)can hold onto the belts.

[Djay Raare]

Mosley's going to loose the belt soon a ha ha ha haaa for being a cheater......... graemlins/grinyes.gif

[Drrtynewyork]

oscar won that fight, he got robbed. neither one really hurt each other. shane did get some hard hits on oscar but not enought to win. the stats at the end showed clearly who had more punches.