For heads that Sample, serious stuff

[The Donger]

http://www.sketcherone.com/12tone.xls

http://www.deepsound.net/calculation.html

Learn!

[kev]

Very cool, Donger. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Mocambo]

Cool stuff.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Interesting. I wish there was a way to eliminate the "Flange" effect as a result of compressing a sound while maintaining its original pitch.

Peace

[Tony Cano]

this may sound like a stupid question, but please explain the significance of the chart. i know that the tones are certain frequencies.

for example, if i have a sample of a piano, how do i determine it's frequency. spectrum analyzer????

[ September 17, 2003, 02:04 PM: Message edited by: Tony Cano ]

[GrantB]

Originally posted by Tony Cano:

for example, if i have a sample of a piano, how do i determine it's frequency. spectrum analyzer???? That is the slow way. There are two fast ways.

1. The old fashioned way (AKA transcription):

Loop your sample and play along on a keyboard until you have nailed it.

2. The digital way (AKA cheating):

http://www.digital-ear.com/digital-ear/index.html
http://www.knzaudio.com/index.php
http://www.akoff.com/
http://www.wildcat.com/Site/Homepage.htm
etc. (These usually only work for soloed melody instruments. No full arangements or chords.)

If you are trying to determine the note value for a single note sample, try this:

Start with a simple stock piano patch on your sampler. Create a new layer in the patch using the unknown note. Change the root note (may be called something else on your sampler) value of the unknown sample while playing the keyboard until the two layers match up. You will now be able to figure out the offset in semitones from the key you assigned the unknown sample to.

Depending on your setup, this may be faster starting with an empty patch on your sampler containing the unknown note and using another patch or another sound module for the reference sound. Some may have better luck using a different sound altogether such as an electric piano or sine wave for the reference sound, just keep it simple.

If you really want the frequency and not the note value, use the chart once you have the note figured.

[SMOOTH87]

Thanks 4 sharing.. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[eric justin]

I am trying to determine the bpm of a loop by the number of samples/sample rate and it just ain't makin any sence graemlins/conf44.gif

[matthew]

the bpm of a track and the number of samples do not correlate, so you're on a hiding to nothing there. what wave editing programme are you using?

[eric justin]

Actually I'm useing an Ensoniq ASR-10

[jsd540]

Thanks brrro... graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Tony Cano]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Interesting. I wish there was a way to eliminate the "Flange" effect as a result of compressing a sound while maintaining its original pitch.

Peace GV - I think this is an issue with ACID. You might want to try the time streching in Sound Forge.

tc

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Thanks Tony, I'll take a look at this issue tonight and see what I can do. I usually just tweak the edits using Sound Forge, I messed with the time stretching once or twice, slipped my mind I guess.

Peace

[Jamie 3:26]

Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Thanks Tony, I'll take a look at this issue tonight and see what I can do. I usually just tweak the edits using Sound Forge, I messed with the time stretching once or twice, slipped my mind I guess.

Peace Groove,SF IS the program to dio it in.I tried it in Acid and could not stand the warble.Not ass noticible in SF,plus with the effects and processing you could do in SF,you could tweak somethin' ugly.

[djyoavb]

Originally posted by eric justin:
I am trying to determine the bpm of a loop by the number of samples/sample rate and it just ain't makin any sence graemlins/conf44.gif count the number of bars of the loop, then paste it in the grid of your sequencer (if u counted 4 bars then paste 4 bars), then loop it on the sequencer, let the sequencer triger the loop and adjust the bpm... till it sounds perrrfecto.
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[Tony Cano]

Originally posted by GrantB:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tony Cano:

for example, if i have a sample of a piano, how do i determine it's frequency. spectrum analyzer???? That is the slow way. There are two fast ways.

1. The old fashioned way (AKA transcription):

Loop your sample and play along on a keyboard until you have nailed it.

2. The digital way (AKA cheating):

http://www.digital-ear.com/digital-ear/index.html
http://www.knzaudio.com/index.php
http://www.akoff.com/
http://www.wildcat.com/Site/Homepage.htm
etc. (These usually only work for soloed melody instruments. No full arangements or chords.)

If you are trying to determine the note value for a single note sample, try this:

Start with a simple stock piano patch on your sampler. Create a new layer in the patch using the unknown note. Change the root note (may be called something else on your sampler) value of the unknown sample while playing the keyboard until the two layers match up. You will now be able to figure out the offset in semitones from the key you assigned the unknown sample to.

Depending on your setup, this may be faster starting with an empty patch on your sampler containing the unknown note and using another patch or another sound module for the reference sound. Some may have better luck using a different sound altogether such as an electric piano or sine wave for the reference sound, just keep it simple.

If you really want the frequency and not the note value, use the chart once you have the note figured. </font>[/QUOTE]which is better? easier? any recommedations?

perfer mac platform, but pc will do too.

tc