View Full Version : Who remembers what it was like without Club Shelter?
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 11:45 AM
I remember the time they closed the Hubert Street site the first time. Man the music suffered badly.
The Shelter is our big brother. No matter how you look at it. The club is big for dance music.
You think music is slow coming out now. When the club was closed we could not get any new songs on the regular.
Don't ever forget that!
I thought I would say this because of all the negative folks out there. Waiting to take shottts at the giant on the block.
I don't always agree with everything they do. But, the club is needed. Repeat Needed.
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GROOVE VICTIM
08-04-2003, 01:04 PM
Who remembers what it was like without Club Shelter?
OK, who remembers what it was like when we had more than three radio stations that played House Music on the weekend in the tri-state area?
The music did not suffer when The Shelter was shut down. This is a rather short sighted approach to the music and the scene.
You can always get another club, but the steps it takes to get House Music back on the radio, is a TAAADDD but more difficult.
[ August 04, 2003, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 01:25 PM
Sure radio helps. But, I remember how club shelter gave life to our music.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-04-2003, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Sure radio helps. But, I remember how club shelter gave life to our music. You're speaking from a New York City perspective, not a world wide point of view.
How did the closing of the Shelter Hurt the music?
Did the closing of the Shelter force Tony Humphries to move to Europe in the mid 90s? I think not.
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 01:51 PM
Groove your so right. The Tri-State area was the only one that felt the closing.
I would go to record stores and they had done away with the dance section. Was very sad those days.
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 01:54 PM
I think Tony was spending most of his time over there anyway.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-04-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove your so right. The Tri-State area was the only one that felt the closing.
I would go to record stores and they had done away with the dance section. Was very sad those days. Dude, you still don't get it. The Shelter had nothing to do with the "lack of" house music in the North East, you got to be kidding me. There was a lack of a place to hear House Music, but there were other spots still going strong during that time.
If the Shelter was a main source of Music, then Strictly Rhythm, Nervous, Eightball, Easy Street, and other New York and Jersey based labels would've been shut down almost a decade ago.
Peace
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 02:43 PM
I don't think you get it. The music was dead when shelter was closed.
Those labels were not signing or putting out new releases. Do you really remember?
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 02:45 PM
What spots are you talking about? They did nothing to help dance music sales. I'm sure of this.
Talk to any producer of Deep House music and they will tell you. The times were harder then.
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 02:48 PM
[ August 04, 2003, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
Jamie 3:26
08-04-2003, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What spots are you talking about? They did nothing to help dance music sales. I'm sure of this.
Talk to any producer of Deep House music and they will tell you. The times were harder then. Can we get someone here that knows. </font>[/QUOTE]I know and it didn't stop a damn thing here in Chicago.Hell,I got most of my Club from NYC labels anyways.When was this closing?
Basecore Boy
08-04-2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What spots are you talking about? They did nothing to help dance music sales. I'm sure of this.
Talk to any producer of Deep House music and they will tell you. The times were harder then. Can we get someone here that knows. </font>[/QUOTE]I know and it didn't stop a damn thing here in Chicago.Hell,I got most of my Club from NYC labels anyways.When was this closing? </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe not in Chicago. But, here in NJ/NY it was sad.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-04-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What spots are you talking about? They did nothing to help dance music sales. I'm sure of this.
Talk to any producer of Deep House music and they will tell you. The times were harder then. Really, Masters at Work seem must have bypassed this "depression", and so did Mood II Swing, DJ Sneak (who was at his peak in the mid to late 90s)
Todd Terry, Benji Candelario, Victor Simonelli, Roy Davis Jr, DJ Pierre, Kerri Chandler, Basement Boys, Felix the House Cat, DJ Duke, Paul Simpson, Johnny D and Nicky P, 95 North, Jr Vasquez, John Robinson, Black Science Orchestra, Deep Dish, CJ Macintosh, Daft Punk, Basment Jaxx....................
How in D Hail did the shelter closing affect these producers abilty to sell records "AROUND THE WORLD"?
GROOVE VICTIM
08-04-2003, 03:00 PM
And how IN D HAIL did the Shelter's closing affect my ability to purchase records and CDs of these producers listed above?
How, tell me!!!!!
Travel
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
What spots are you talking about? They did nothing to help dance music sales. I'm sure of this.
Talk to any producer of Deep House music and they will tell you. The times were harder then. Really, Masters at Work seem must have bypassed this "depression", and so did Mood II Swing, DJ Sneak (who was at his peak in the mid to late 90s)
Todd Terry, Benji Candelario, Victor Simonelli, Roy Davis Jr, DJ Pierre, Kerri Chandler, Basement Boys, Felix the House Cat, DJ Duke, Paul Simpson, Johnny D and Nicky P, 95 North, Jr Vasquez, John Robinson, Black Science Orchestra, Deep Dish, CJ Macintosh, Daft Punk, Basment Jaxx....................
How in D Hail did the shelter closing affect these producers abilty to sell records "AROUND THE WORLD"? </font>[/QUOTE]and at that time a lot of these guys had releases on major labels as well as indies.
it was also easy to sell 5000 + COPIES OF A RELEASE BACK THEN.
now you're lucky TODAY if you sell 2000 or even 1000 copies.
THESE ARE NOW THE HARD TIMES ,
Definately not back then
thats for sure.
OK
I'll leave this one to the rest of youse............ graemlins/bolt.gif
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 07:05 AM
I say maybe we should have a producer or Record label executive answer this question. Sales were still going on. But, very slow then.
Shelter is like the record store. How many people hear songs there and go look for them.
dennis f
08-05-2003, 07:16 AM
ok I'ma put my foot in here......
TIMES ARE HARD NOW!
Shelter's closing did nothing to affect the creative and business side of our music. No disrespect intended. It hurt NY's house scene a bit but not that much. To tell you the truth the closing helped spawn several smaller parties and gave these places a chance when at any other time they had none. I love the shelter but the statement that started this post is utterly ridiculous! Groove is right...what has hurt our scene is the lack of radio, sponsorships, and new blood. Clubs come and go....do you think the closing stopped Timmy from playing gigs anywhere? Did his world stop? Did Blaze stop? nope.......you just keep on keepin' on...that's what we're all doing right now.
later
dee
P-Flipp
08-05-2003, 07:42 AM
When the Shelter closed in August 1993 it left a void in in not
only the scene but the music.Shelter was looked upon as the barometer of hot music,however the Underground Network
@ the Sound Factory On Wednesday nights did their the best
to fan the flame.I remember Hippie Torrales spinning classics
at the "Funk Hut" and all these heads with their Shelter shirts cartwheeling on that little powdered floor.Got really choked up!Sure there was still plenty of decent output but there wasn't that big magical venue to experience it in.
[ August 05, 2003, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: P-Flipp ]
Leslie
08-05-2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Shelter is like the record store. How many people hear songs there and go look for them. If you are going to make this statement perhaps one should look at what the ending of Body & Soul did to record stores that specialized in this type of music - perhaps the folks who worked in that atmosphere can answer the question.....it's not all about Shelter. Shelter is but one aspect of what this is all about.
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 08:11 AM
The decline in our music came from not having that main venue to dance and hear unreleased tunes.
Some may want to think Shelter is not important.
Damn, I think Shelter pave the way to what we call soulful house music.
Please, someone tell where this soulful house music title came from?
Leslie
08-05-2003, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Some may want to think Shelter is not important.
Please provide examples of where ANYONE said this.
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Some may want to think Shelter is not important.
Please provide examples of where ANYONE said this. </font>[/QUOTE]Leslie, I didn't say anyone said that here. But, I talk to people all the time about the music and the scene.
I think people here see shelter as being important. But, how important?
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I say maybe we should have a producer or Record label executive answer this question. Sales were still going on. But, very slow then.
Shelter is like the record store. How many people hear songs there and go look for them. You obviously missed my point, graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
I had a label at around that time.
and times are hard NOW!
[ August 05, 2003, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Nege ]
Originally posted by dennis f:
ok I'ma put my foot in here......
TIMES ARE HARD NOW!
Shelter's closing did nothing to affect the creative and business side of our music. No disrespect intended. It hurt NY's house scene a bit but not that much. To tell you the truth the closing helped spawn several smaller parties and gave these places a chance when at any other time they had none. I love the shelter but the statement that started this post is utterly ridiculous! Groove is right...what has hurt our scene is the lack of radio, sponsorships, and new blood. Clubs come and go....do you think the closing stopped Timmy from playing gigs anywhere? Did his world stop? Did Blaze stop? nope.......you just keep on keepin' on...that's what we're all doing right now.
later
dee Thank you Dennis.
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 08:25 AM
So many big dance songs come out of shelter.
What do you hear when you go to most record stores. I'm looking for this song Timmy played last week.
I know its hard for some to accept. But, it's the truth.
Shelter is the big boy on the block. Face it.
[ August 05, 2003, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 08:33 AM
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GROOVE VICTIM
08-05-2003, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
So many big dance songs come out of shelter.
What do you hear when you go to most record stores. I'm looking for this song Timmy played last week.
I know its hard for some to accept. But, it's the truth.
Shelter is the big boy on the block. Face it. Basecore, the same could be said about Ministry of Sound in the early to mid 90s.
Are you that nieve to think that "ONE" club was the mecca of House Music?
Have you been anywhere other than New York and New Jersey?
If the Shelter is so "BIG" then why are people still finding out who Timmy Regisford is? By the way you're talking, he should be bigger than Louie, David Morales, Tony Humphries, and Frankie Knuckles combined.
The Shelter is not a breeding ground for new music. It's only a "PLACE" to showcase new music, same goes for any club out there that can hire DJs that have access to new and unreleased material.
Peace
Leslie
08-05-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Leslie, I didn't say anyone said that here. But, I talk to people all the time about the music and the scene.
I think people here see shelter as being important. But, how important? Point taken. Consider it like this - if you grow up in a two parent home, which parent is more important your mother or your father? Perhaps the tangibility you are seeking is unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
Red D
08-05-2003, 08:58 AM
Strange how a whole movement of house fanatics know their stuff over here in Europe, yet we've never been to Shelter.
You are talking bollocks my friend, before DHP I only knew about Shelter through credits and shout outs on records I bought, but I was 'house' years before that.
This years useless statement award has but one contender...
RD
Doesn't anybody remember the long soup lines, the rise in violent crimes, the massive food stamp shortage, the squalor in third world countries, or the almost criminal rise in gas prices when Club Shelter closed??? Me neither. Just checking......JMJ biggrinangel.gif
GROOVE VICTIM
08-05-2003, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Red D:
Strange how a whole movement of house fanatics know their stuff over here in Europe, yet we've never been to Shelter.
You are talking bollocks my friend, before DHP I only knew about Shelter through credits and shout outs on records I bought, but I was 'house' years before that.
This years useless statement award has but one contender...
RD THANK YOU VERY MUCH RED D!!!!!!!!!!
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Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
So many big dance songs come out of shelter.
What do you hear when you go to most record stores. I'm looking for this song Timmy played last week.
I know its hard for some to accept. But, it's the truth.
Shelter is the big boy on the block. Face it. Basecore, the same could be said about Ministry of Sound in the early to mid 90s.
Are you that nieve to think that "ONE" club was the mecca of House Music?
Have you been anywhere other than New York and New Jersey?
If the Shelter is so "BIG" then why are people still finding out who Timmy Regisford is? By the way you're talking, he should be bigger than Louie, David Morales, Tony Humphries, and Frankie Knuckles combined.
The Shelter is not a breeding ground for new music. It's only a "PLACE" to showcase new music, same goes for any club out there that can hire DJs that have access to new and unreleased material.
Peace </font>[/QUOTE]Your statements are so funny. The dj's you named have played a major part in our music.
I was talking about Shelter not those guys.
Please don't bash me on this one. Before shelter most parties were for the gay community. Yes, I took my son to Shelter and he had a great time. But, I took him to Body & Soul and he cramped up. He said to many guys with white wife beaters on.
See we often think about our little community of die hards and forget the big picture.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-05-2003, 09:03 AM
(Looking for smilies)
ahhh here's one
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/banghead.gif
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:07 AM
I'm sure we all love house music and will love it with or without Shelter.
But, I remember how sad it was here in the Tri-state area.
Plus, who was talking about other countries.
Shelter is important for our scene here. Face it.
What other club here caters to deep house music during the weekend other than small venues and gay spots.
Weren't there riots in the streets of south central L.A. after Club Shelter closed??? Ooops, sorry, that was the Rodney King story. Not as socially relevant or traumatic. Carry on.......JMJ biggrinangel.gif
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I'm sure we all love house music and will love it with or without Shelter.
But, I remember how sad it was here in the Tri-state area.
Plus, who was talking about other countries.
Shelter is important for our scene here. Face it.
What other club here caters to deep house music during the weekend other than small venues and gay spots. Sam's Club - Electronics Dept. - Bring your own CD and order a party platter......JMJ
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:11 AM
I put this topic up. Because over the weekend someone asked me the question.
Thinking back, this is what I remember.
The scene was sad.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-05-2003, 09:12 AM
Can someone pinch me please?
I must've been dreaming for all those days when the UPS truck came to my front door with a package from either Eightball, Dance Tracks, Satellite, and 12inch Dance in D.C.
Basecore, where were you when Tony Humphries was on Hot 97 in the mid to late 90s. More people were talking about Body and Soul rather than the Shelter. What about Legends?
What about the Deep House Page, the old Masters at Work Message board, that other site when it was part of simplenet.com?
I think the only person that suffered was you.
Peace
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:17 AM
Body & Soul was not for everyone. Face it.
Ok, Groove it was only me that suffered.
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GROOVE VICTIM
08-05-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Body & Soul was not for everyone. Face it. The Shelter was not for everyone. Face it.
Peace
The Macarena was not for everyone. I hated it. Face it......JMJ
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:20 AM
hate is so strong. But, love will save the day.
Leslie
08-05-2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Body & Soul was not for everyone. Face it. The Shelter was not for everyone. Face it.
Peace </font>[/QUOTE]Is not Groove, just correcting your tense.
Now the NYC DHP Party - now that ish right there ain't for everybody....
jimmymack-2000
08-05-2003, 02:17 PM
Master C&J - Face It
Javier Drada
08-05-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
So many big dance songs come out of shelter.
What do you hear when you go to most record stores. I'm looking for this song Timmy played last week.
I know its hard for some to accept. But, it's the truth.
Shelter is the big boy on the block. Face it. I know Shelter is the shit, but I don't buy my records according to what Timmy or any cat plays. I buy what I feel, what moves me and at times that feeling shifts to other genres of music. I can never say I am looking for this or that I know that certain records may be hot here or there but If I don't feel it at the time they just stay behind.
darrow
08-05-2003, 04:56 PM
what year was this?
I remember making the trek from Rochester NY to NYC to hit up Downtown Records, Vinylmania, and Rock and Soul during the early 90s before I moved to DC in '93. I didn't get a sense that times were hard for those stores. I know I didn't care what was being played at The Shelter. I just wanted to buy some music.
music
08-05-2003, 07:19 PM
jay mixin' dixon did more for the house scene than club shelter. trust me, that is why in nyc ,98.7 has kiss club classics. the station featured the best of the best djs (unknown as well) in the metro-area. alot of today's djs got air-time there.
shelter is not a major player in the music field. yes it has a purpose but no more than the next club.
i am from the big nyc and have learned more about house music from the chicago brothers like
jamie, alan king, gregg gray, andrew osborne(canada), craig alexander, boo williams,lee collins and ronc.
please try to get out more.
[ August 05, 2003, 08:29 PM: Message edited by: music ]
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:21 PM
Ok, if you say so.
But, I say it was a sad day then.
[ August 05, 2003, 10:27 PM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
Originally posted by music:
shelter is not a major player in the music field. yes it has a purpose but no more than the next club.you've got to be kidding!!!
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 09:35 PM
The big guy on the block always the target.
Face it.
The club has done so much for dance music.
Face it.
liL Ray
08-05-2003, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
The big guy on the block always the target.
you should know....what's all this about face, all of a sudden? You got a job as promoter there again?
Strrrrrraaaannnnge!
...and no, I ain't adding fire to your pot....but he has a point people...but consider the source!
Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 10:02 PM
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Basecore Boy
08-05-2003, 10:05 PM
Always give props where props are due.
I'm no promoter for shelter. Shelter does well without me.
I'm part of no crew. Just Tamir/Basecore Boy.
Some people should try it.
liL Ray
08-05-2003, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I'm part of no crew. Just Tamir/Basecore Boy.
Some people should try it. oh, you are finally getting it...isn't it a great revelation?...a wonderful feeling?....an enlightment to the soul?
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 09:53 AM
If you knew me. You would know that I roll alone.
That's why I can speak out about anything.
No chains on this brother.
Don't be a house music slave.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-06-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
If you knew me. You would know that I roll alone.
That's why I can speak out about anything.
No chains on this brother.
Don't be a house music slave. Unchain yourself and travel.
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 02:40 PM
Groove may I ask who are you and do you know me.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-06-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove may I ask who are you and do you know me. No I don't know you, but from what I've read throughout this entire thread, to simply make a statement that the music struggled because of the closing of the Shelter has to be one of the dumbest statements ever made when it comes to House Music.
[ August 06, 2003, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: GROOVE VICTIM ]
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Groove may I ask who are you and do you know me. No I don't know you, but from what I've read throughout this entire thread, to simply make a statement that the music struggled because of the closing of the Shelter has to be one of the dumbest statements ever made when it comes to House Music. </font>[/QUOTE]Your just mad because your posts suck bad. You need help.
I'm late, but I'll chime in. The closing of the original Shelter, while sad, did not really have the impact on the music that you're trying to suggest. It may have left a void in the NY/NJ in terms of a venue through which new music could be broken, but by the time of closing house music had moved waaaay beyond the confines of Chicago and NYC. As other people have correctly pointed out, there were countless other DJs, venues, magazines, etc. that were essentially "breaking" new music back then. Music was selling in relatively large amounts without it. The sad thing is that today, when The Shelter is arguably at the peak of its popularity and influence, you can't give most records away. Times are hard for everyone.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-06-2003, 02:51 PM
Dude, give it up, the rest of this board has already made up its mind about WHO YOU ARE.
Done
Originally posted by Doug:
The sad thing is that today, when The Shelter is arguably at the peak of its popularity and influence, you can't give most records away. Times are hard for everyone. that statement sums up everything,thread closed.
Wait, so you are all telling me that music actually does exist outside of the Shelter? (being very sarcastic)
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
Dude, give it up, the rest of this board has already made up its mind about WHO YOU ARE.
Done Sure I have a few that would like me to go away. But, all the private messages I get from board members tell me to keep going.
I will go with the majority here.
Sorry, I'm here to stay. FACE IT.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-06-2003, 03:01 PM
I mean really, what calculator did you use to sum come up with a theory that when the Shelter closed in the early nineties, the music suffered trememdously?
Show me some facts, testimonials, arguments, documentation.......
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 03:05 PM
I said remember. graemlins/acclaim.gif
liL Ray
08-06-2003, 03:07 PM
I can't believe y'all made this topic stay on top..... graemlins/puke.gif
Ray it's only entertainment
liL Ray
08-06-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Nege:
Ray it's only entertainment for who?
I'm sure most must find the subject amusing, for me it's entertainment.
OK I have been here too long................
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 05:32 PM
This is so funny. Sure other states were doing their thing with the music. But, If deep house dj's would be truthful and say. Yes, shelter helped all here in the tri-state area.
I would go to clubs and DJ would be playin sets just like shelter. Yeah, they will come on here and act like they don't. My favorite one is. I don't have to go to the shelter to have a good set. Why not go and listen to a very talented DJ. DJ's don't let the I'm better than you mess, stop educating you. Learn to have a better spirit and other folks will feel that.
Playlist junkies where are you, don't be shy. No one ever answered my question about Where did the term "Deep House Music" come from. Not saying shelter came up with it, but I would like to know. The shelter gave everyone that loves deep house music a major venue here.
Ray keep taking your little shotttts. That's all you got. You show the world how mean spirited you can be. Hope I see you in heaven. Still love you man!
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imported_Gman
08-06-2003, 05:53 PM
Basecore, normally I stay out of these threads but I am curious as well as to why the flip\flop on the Shelter. I think you are really saying what you have always been saying but approaching it from a different direction but what do I know.
-G
sammyrock
08-06-2003, 07:07 PM
People had withdrawls like dope addicts..lol I did.. :D
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Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Gman:
Basecore, normally I stay out of these threads but I am curious as well as to why the flip\flop on the Shelter. I think you are really saying what you have always been saying but approaching it from a different direction but what do I know.
-G When have I ever said anything bad about shelter to be flip flop. Show me, show me, show me, show me. I want to see this. Why because I have words with someone that hangs out at the shelter. Come on Gman. I don't shit on goods. Why is everyone looking for hate attacks?
Yes, I was one who would go to the club to experience the new music.
This why I stay away from certain people now. Because everyone is in some kind of group. If one say something about another. You know them now. Man if you knew how much I love this music. You would say. He wants to contribute something good. But, I see we have people who will be mean spirited, no matter how nice you may be. This is what is sad about a scene that gives beautiful message in our music.
I hope you understand. I'm glad you did question it. Because somethings need to be addressed. Like the mean spirits in this scene. We have no room for them. They hurt progress.
I do agree that the Shelter has contributed soooooo much to this music and continue to do so. IMO I don't feel that the Shelter is the end all and be all to music. It was going on before them and will continue to do so after.
I'm not trying to come down on you (obviously I have nothing but love for the Shelter). I feel this music just as much as you. ;) I just don't agree with some of the things you've been saying on this thread.
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by IIBS:
I do agree that the Shelter has contributed soooooo much to this music and continue to do so. IMO I don't feel that the Shelter is the end all and be all to music. It was going on before them and will continue to do so after.
I'm not trying to come down on you (obviously I have nothing but love for the Shelter). I feel this music just as much as you. ;) I just don't agree with some of the things you've been saying on this thread. That's cool. We have different people in the world. Different.
I never said it was the end to all. Just feel that people don't remember what it was like here in the tri-state area then. We could not wait for the club to open again. Lets keep it real.
NubianSista
08-06-2003, 09:40 PM
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/conf40.gifCan't remember exact dates. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread about "93" I think that's about right. Anyway, I'm no industry kitty. I'm just a true club head so I found another party. $hit didn't stop no show I kept it movin http://deephousepage.com/smilies/eusa_dance.gif
You guys stopped in a few times. Remember!
"Club Black Box" So the depression went right over my head. I can recall the house DJ broke a few tracks and we loved it.
Basecore Boy
08-06-2003, 09:58 PM
Black Box was good. I've done many parties there. But, the club was dedicated to NA. The direction of the club was for them only.
The owners of black box are my friends I know.
imported_Gman
08-06-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
...When have I ever said anything bad about shelter to be flip flop. Show me, show me, show me, show me. I want to see this. Why because I have words with someone that hangs out at the shelter. Come on Gman. I don't shit on goods. Why is everyone looking for hate attacks?
Come on Basecore. I am able to bring up quite easily every post you have posted on this message board for the last year (and more) and read thru them. I can start with the "Bring Kevin back to the Shelter post" if you like but I would rather not. Why is it that every time I question someone on this board then I have to be in cahoots(?) with someone they are having problems with :rolleyes:
-G
Basecore Boy
08-07-2003, 07:02 AM
Bringing back Kevin Hedge is what I think would help shelter. Not destroy it. Come better than that. So, if someone says anything about improving a party, they are wanting them to fail. No, I think you need to talk to someone else about dissin shelter. I understand the importants of this club.
I will say this again shelter is good for dance music, period.
Like your site is good for dance music.
Don't follow the groups.
GROOVE VICTIM
08-07-2003, 08:04 AM
OK, Imma kill this thread with the quickness!!!
After hours of researching mixtapes, CDs, and my record collections, I can more or less sum this whole issue up with a simple playlist.
Now according to one of the members of this board, The Shelter first closed in 1993.
Well I'm gonna start a list of hit records ranging from 93 to 96. This will prove how much the Shelter really hurt the New York scene and record production. Tony Humphries and Louie Vega were the two DJs during this time period that pushed many of these classics.
Barbara Tucker "Beautiful People" Strictly Rhythm
Barbara Tucker "I get Lifted" Strictly Rhythm
Barbara Tucker "Stay Together" Strictly Rhythm
Roy Davis Jr. "The Believers" Strictly Rhythm
Loni Clark "Loves got me on a Trip so High" Nervous
Alexander Hope "Saturdays", "For the love of you"
Jasper St. Company "A feelin" Basement Boys
Ruffneck feat. Yavahn "Everybody Be Sombody" MAW
Kim English "Time for Love" Nervous
Kim English "Nite Life" Nervous
Ten City "Fantasy" (Timmy Regisford mixes included) Columbia
Kamar "I need you" Madhouse
UBQ Project feat. Michael Proctor "Deliver Me" Hott
The Bucket Heads "The Bomb" Henry Street
DJ Sneak "Polyester I and II" Henry Street
Rochelle Flemming "Suffer the Consequences" Cutting
Carolyn Harding "Pick it up" King Street
Sabrynah Pope "It works for me" King Street
95 North feat Sabrynah Pope "Hold on" King Street
Bassmental "Its the Music" King Street
Mood II Swing feat Carol Sylvan "Closer" King Street
Mood II Swing "Move Me" Earth Moon Sun
Ultra Nate' "How Long" Warner Brothers
Janet Jackson "Anytime Anyplace" Virgin
Crystal Waters "100% Pure Love" Mercury
Kenlou "Moonshine" MAW
Mary J Blige "Be Happy" MCA
Spirits "Don't Bring me Down" MCA
Spirits "Spirits inside" MCA
Jodeci "You got it"
Boy, House music was really at a stand still during this time period.
Peace
Basecore Boy
08-07-2003, 08:24 AM
Maybe I should post all the hits coming out of the shelter then.
You sure have alot of free time on your hands. Do you think about me at night?
[ August 07, 2003, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Basecore Boy ]
NubianSista
08-07-2003, 09:41 AM
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/conf45.gifOOPS! Forgive me... I forgot to mention Underground Dreams! The Original Movement. They were breaking new music too! graemlins/cheering.gif
Basecore Boy
08-07-2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Nubiansista:
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/conf45.gifOOPS! Forgive me... I forgot to mention Underground Dreams! The Original Movement. They were breaking new music too! graemlins/cheering.gif We were having good parties. But, we were no shelter.
Thanks.
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music
08-07-2003, 12:44 PM
yo my brother get real and get out more. no shelter, life goes on. it is no way near the garage .
in bad weather the shelter gets 50 - 100 people if that. and in good weather maybe 200-300 w/ an artist.
even body and soul out sold the shelter on bad nights.500 people.
[ August 07, 2003, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: music ]
Ron la Rock
08-07-2003, 12:53 PM
there is some good stuff rollin around out there http://deephousepage.com/smilies/bongsmi.gif
gotta get me some I wanna forget somethings meself
lately
graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
can u say
t r i p p i n
Originally posted by GROOVE VICTIM:
OK, Imma kill this thread with the quickness!!!
After hours of researching mixtapes, CDs, and my record collections, I can more or less sum this whole issue up with a simple playlist.
Now according to one of the members of this board, The Shelter first closed in 1993.
Well I'm gonna start a list of hit records ranging from 93 to 96. This will prove how much the Shelter really hurt the New York scene and record production. Tony Humphries and Louie Vega were the two DJs during this time period that pushed many of these classics.
Barbara Tucker "Beautiful People" Strictly Rhythm
Barbara Tucker "I get Lifted" Strictly Rhythm
Barbara Tucker "Stay Together" Strictly Rhythm
Roy Davis Jr. "The Believers" Strictly Rhythm
Loni Clark "Loves got me on a Trip so High" Nervous
Alexander Hope "Saturdays", "For the love of you"
Jasper St. Company "A feelin" Basement Boys
Ruffneck feat. Yavahn "Everybody Be Sombody" MAW
Kim English "Time for Love" Nervous
Kim English "Nite Life" Nervous
Ten City "Fantasy" (Timmy Regisford mixes included) Columbia
Kamar "I need you" Madhouse
UBQ Project feat. Michael Proctor "Deliver Me" Hott
The Bucket Heads "The Bomb" Henry Street
DJ Sneak "Polyester I and II" Henry Street
Rochelle Flemming "Suffer the Consequences" Cutting
Carolyn Harding "Pick it up" King Street
Sabrynah Pope "It works for me" King Street
95 North feat Sabrynah Pope "Hold on" King Street
Bassmental "Its the Music" King Street
Mood II Swing feat Carol Sylvan "Closer" King Street
Mood II Swing "Move Me" Earth Moon Sun
Ultra Nate' "How Long" Warner Brothers
Janet Jackson "Anytime Anyplace" Virgin
Crystal Waters "100% Pure Love" Mercury
Kenlou "Moonshine" MAW
Mary J Blige "Be Happy" MCA
Spirits "Don't Bring me Down" MCA
Spirits "Spirits inside" MCA
Jodeci "You got it"
Boy, House music was really at a stand still during this time period.
Peace I actually miss that time,
the music had more balls then.
donna edwards
08-09-2003, 02:31 PM
It was a sad day but I knew they would bounce back ;) , but the dance scene kept thriving!! I spent most of my nights @ the Sound Factory Bar on Wednesday's w/ Louie ripping the tunes & Sundays @Charles Jacksons' party w/Andre Collins keeping the music thriving. As a matter of fact thank God we had Louie & Andre to help keep the scene thriving til Shelter returned. There also was a host of other venues like the Buddha Bar, Fat Boys, Silver Shadow, & 1 Front St. that catered to the House crowd.
DJ Timmy Richardson
08-09-2003, 04:11 PM
The Shelter closed but don't you remember the parties at the Tunnel Timmy threw. With different jocks like Basil and John Robinson. UN, House Nation, Etc.....
donna edwards
08-09-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
The Shelter closed but don't you remember the parties at the Tunnel Timmy threw. With different jocks like Basil and John Robinson. UN, House Nation, Etc..... Those were great parties also, I went to a few parties @ the Tunnel though, it had a different feel than Hubert St.. Benny Soto & I would leave class & go check John Robinson when he was spinning.
music
08-09-2003, 09:38 PM
shelter is a venue not an institution like studio 54, electric circus,xenon, and garage.
trust me shelter won't be on vh-1.
for instance, the empire roller ring was an institution, it has been around for over 25-30 years. music was always slamming since 1970's.
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