Into every life some darkness must fall...

[TAC]

I just keep telling myself..."This too shall pass... ."

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TAC

[imported_Gman]

Whats up ? Remember to look around and count the blessings...

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by TAC:
I just keep telling myself..."This too shall pass... ."

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TAC it could be worse brotha...whatever it is you'll get through it...

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[TAC]

I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change.

Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do.

[imported_Gman]

Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change.

Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. Do you have your health ?

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change.

Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. check your pm's...

[TAC]

Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change.

Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. Do you have your health ? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, I have my health. Man its about being an Island in corporate America and the suffering that you go through. I worked for a fortune 50 (possibly fortune 10. memory does not serve me well) for about eight years. I learned then that we black men have no place in the corporations. So I ditched it and went back to law school. I thought that becoming an attorney would get me out of the corporate environment but its still the same, if not worse.

I've been suffering for years, and I don't know how much longer I can do this for.

The money is all good and everything, but what price am I paying for it. I don't see my daughter, I don't get vacations, no excercise, and the relationship with my spouse is strained at best because I'm barely home. I'm questioning what is it all for.

Don't sweat it bro. This is my sh*t and I have to get through it.

[mhd]

hang in there bruh, you are not alone, might be time to think about going in-house. you know your dhp fam has your back

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change.

Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. Do you have your health ? </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, I have my health. Man its about being an Island in corporate America and the suffering that you go through. I worked for a fortune 50 (possibly fortune 10. memory does not serve me well) for about eight years. I learned then that we black men have no place in the corporations. So I ditched it and went back to law school. I thought that becoming an attorney would get me out of the corporate environment but its still the same, if not worse.

I've been suffering for years, and I don't know how much longer I can do this for.

The money is all good and everything, but what price am I paying for it. I don't see my daughter, I don't get vacations, no excercise, and the relationship with my spouse is strained at best because I'm barely home. I'm questioning what is it all for.

Don't sweat it bro. This is my sh*t and I have to get through it. </font>[/QUOTE]Just know that Corporate America is not for those with a conscious....been there done that and don't miss that mothafukka at all....I actually feel sorry for those STUCK in that hell hole...you'll be fine brotha...

Social organizations can always use legal/attorneys...money may not be that great...but then again, money ain't everything...

peace

[Koffy Brown]

maybe starting up your own law firm...shoot...I may not have a law degree, but I give pretty good advice.. biggrinangel.gif

[TAC]

Originally posted by mhd:
hang in there bruh, you are not alone, might be time to think about going in-house. you know your dhp fam has your back Thanks for the words of encouragement, but there is only so much stress that one human can bear.

In-house dried up as an option with the collapse of the Telecom and Dot Com industries. We interviewed a bunch of attorneys coming out of those places for jobs with us. Essentially, its going to be a slow process getting out of here. Most probably, I will be moving back to DC in the near future. Seems like there was more of a supportive network around me.

FWIW, I always knew I was on borrowed time. Initially, I held onto the notion that I would make partner, but the reality of the environment and the statistics cleared my head of that pipe dream. The question really was just how, when, and under what circumstances I would leave.

[ April 18, 2003, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: TAC ]

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
hang in there bruh, you are not alone, might be time to think about going in-house. you know your dhp fam has your back Thanks for the words of encouragement, btu there is only so much stress that one human can bear.

In-house dried up as an option with the collapse of the Telecom and dot com industries. We interviewed a bunch of those attorneys coming out of those places for jobs with us. Essentially, its going to be a slow process getting out of here. Most probably, I will be moving back to DC in the near future. Seems like theer was more of a supportive network around me.

FWIW, I always knew I was on borrowed time. Initially, I held onto the notion that I would make partner, but the reality of the environment and the statistics cleared my head of that pipe dream. The question really was just how, when, and under what circumstances I would leave. </font>[/QUOTE]ALWAYS leave under your OWN circumstances...

peace

[U]

TAC...sorry to hear that you are feeling so weighed down with tht sh*t!!! What would you really really like to do? Why don't you think about that for a bit and refocus on a new life. Obviously corporate America is not for you. I have tons of advice, but I'm short on time right now. Send me a PM if you want and I'll help you sort this shit out.

[mhd]

Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
hang in there bruh, you are not alone, might be time to think about going in-house. you know your dhp fam has your back Thanks for the words of encouragement, but there is only so much stress that one human can bear.

In-house dried up as an option with the collapse of the Telecom and Dot Com industries. We interviewed a bunch of attorneys coming out of those places for jobs with us. Essentially, its going to be a slow process getting out of here. Most probably, I will be moving back to DC in the near future. Seems like there was more of a supportive network around me.

FWIW, I always knew I was on borrowed time. Initially, I held onto the notion that I would make partner, but the reality of the environment and the statistics cleared my head of that pipe dream. The question really was just how, when, and under what circumstances I would leave. </font>[/QUOTE]man, you are already a winner, come back to dc and be a super-star. places like your firm are not designed for your success, just make the loot, learn some skills and roll then get back to the things that are really important

[The Real Dragonfly Jones]

TAC...... I'm a corporate brotha too & I know how it feels. Sometimes, I feel like a small & insignificant screw in a huge machine. At any time, I can be outta a job (not of my own free will).

But a friend gave me some good advice...
1. Never get too comfortable at a job. Cause you continually have to prove yourself.
2. Network, Network, Network, Network.
3. Always keep looking cause you never know when something better is out there.

This may not help but there are peeps out there who know what you're going thru...

[imported_Gman]

Start now (if you have not done so) to build up that nest egg and cut your expenses so when you leave you have some time to find the right job. Someone above said money is not everything which is true but is definitely gives you some options ;)

-G

[Tony Cano]

hang in there TAC. i deal with corporate bs every day and it sucks. be tough....

[DJ76]

Sorry to hear this dude, the judicial world can be tough at times. If my memory serves me well, you were in intellectual property, maybe there might be some options in international organizations, just a thought. And if it's a UN-related organization, you sure won't be burning the midnight oil yet making decent money ;) They like real State employees.

Law opens a lot of doors, you can do a lot of things that are not your typical lawyer job, so think of something you like... think about yourself and your family.

much luck.

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change. Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. do you need a cash advance?? you can always pawn yo rekkidz for $15K with me.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by statuskuo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change. Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. do you need a cash advance?? you can always pawn yo rekkidz for $15K with me. </font>[/QUOTE]Better he gives them to me for free as penance for all the evil things he’s done as a cooperate whore for the last several years.

[ April 18, 2003, 10:46 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Lennox ]

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
I'm in trouble...I can't get into it, but my life is going to undergo a drastic change. Sorry to post my own personal sh*t up on-line, but I don't know what else to do. do you need a cash advance?? you can always pawn yo rekkidz for $15K with me. </font>[/QUOTE]Better he gives them to me for free as penance for all the evil things he’s done as a cooperate whore for the last several years. </font>[/QUOTE]cooperate? TRHS again and again.

[Bill Blake]

We should take TAC to ACME soon, on me.

[Wild i]

It's not just you. And, believe it or not, it's not just about being an "island."

My solution, drastic though it may be, is to eschew the bucks for a while (I assume you've squirreled some away) and hang your shingle in entertainment/intellectual property law. You've got the clientele resources. You could be my guy. I'd hire ya as I'm sure many would.

Yes, it would be very lean for a while, but a few trips around the music conference circuit should get you started in fine fettle.

Money doesn't matter if you're miserable.

On the other hand, if you're just feeling the pressure right now and needed to vent, I think I can speak for the masses when I say we're here for that too. We have all had our moments.

Hang in there, my brother.

[ April 18, 2003, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Wild i ]

[DeesKo]

Originally posted by mhd:
man, you are already a winner, come back to dc and be a super-star. places like your firm are not designed for your success, just make the loot, learn some skills and roll then get back to the things that are really important AMEN.... you know corporate america is using you, so use them right back.

Come with a longer term plan, use them for your advantage so that they help you achieve whatever you need to achieve to facilitate that long term goal and then when the time is right, you can roll out and move on....

Ultimately... you already know corporate america doesn't mean jack sh*t to you and the only things that should stress you out like THIS are things that matter the MOST in life. Work isn't one of them. Don't let it get too you. Its just a job.

Peace and good luck.

Rob

[statuskuo]

Just spoke wit CAT, all this darkness shit = his newly-acquired inability to mix.

it's perfectly understandable. Lennox as been facing the same darkness for a while now. toot toot.. SOUULLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Drrtynewyork]

at least he has plenty of time to be on DHP!!

[Drrtynewyork]

Originally posted by statuskuo:
Just spoke wit CAT, all this darkness shit = his newly-acquired inability to mix.

it's perfectly understandable. Lennox as been facing the same darkness for a while now. toot toot.. SOUULLLLLLLLLLLLLL soon you'll be riding that train too

[jillbee]

and if you decide to make a change...

Where one door closes, another opens. Take care of your own and be true to yourself.

:D

[Fletch]

Originally posted by TAC:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
hang in there bruh, you are not alone, might be time to think about going in-house. you know your dhp fam has your back Thanks for the words of encouragement, but there is only so much stress that one human can bear.

In-house dried up as an option with the collapse of the Telecom and Dot Com industries. We interviewed a bunch of attorneys coming out of those places for jobs with us. Essentially, its going to be a slow process getting out of here. Most probably, I will be moving back to DC in the near future. Seems like there was more of a supportive network around me.

FWIW, I always knew I was on borrowed time. Initially, I held onto the notion that I would make partner, but the reality of the environment and the statistics cleared my head of that pipe dream. The question really was just how, when, and under what circumstances I would leave. </font>[/QUOTE]TAC,

I'm going through some changes of my own. Working for 13 years with the Government, I decided to apply for my masters. Unfortunately, last week, I got a rejection letter from my main choice, which has 1) gotten me down for a whole week, and 2) made me question whether I would ever be able to advance myself from my current employment. The pain is subsiding now, and I am planning other avenues to reach my goal.

Remember the words of Paul, in Romans 8:18;

"For I reckon that sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us".

In other words, what's coming is better than what you're going through. Blessings to you and your family. Peace.

[Wild i]

Originally posted by einnod23:
I'm going through some changes of my own. Working for 13 years with the Government, I decided to apply for my masters. Unfortunately, last week, I got a rejection letter from my main choice, Oh don't worry about that. It's all about quotas when it comes to schools. There are plenty of good one's out there.

BTW every promotion I've gotten in the gov't came before I got the degree. You must, however, be willing the move from agency to agency (if that's possible in your area). The best place for such movement is in DC, but you can do that other places as well. While you strive to advance your education (a noble effort in and of itself, even without correlating career advances), apply for higher positions and move your career along as well. Once you get a better position, you may even find it easier to both get into a graduate program and get the gov't to pay for it so that your education is commensurate with your position.

One of the reasons I stayed in DC so long was because my job kept throwing school money at me, but I didn't actually get my degree until I'd gotten a higher paying position with more mobility in NY.

Good luck with that.

[Rom]

Yo TAC, I worked at Arthur Andersen for 15 years and found myself out of a job and a career that I'd worked my azz off to build damn near my entire working life! All that time and effort down the damn drain thanks to the corporate criminals that were running the place AR15firing.gif While I was collecting my unemployment check I kept thinking about something my old man used to tell me 'you cant get rich working for somebody else'. So I told corp America to kiss my azz and did a complete 360 career wise and became a real estate agent. Now instead of working 10-12hr days for the man, I work for myself. My family 'knows' me now and I even have time to do all the grocery shopping and cooking (much better cook than the wife :D ) Yeah things were slow at first but if you're inteligent and dedicated, you'll succeed. My life now is so different that I sometimes think that before I wasnt 'living' at all...just 'working'.

I say tell corp America to kiss yer azz TAC, they're sucking you dry and there's many other ways to make a living in this world.

[julian_kelly]

I feel you TAC. Thats why I got out of corporate american and started my own business.

As Rom said, dont be affraid to do a complete 360 degree turn and do something not related to what you studied in school.

julian kelly

[TAC]

Julian_Kelly, Rom tight posts. Thanks for the words

Tough times, but this too shall pass...

[Wild i]

Originally posted by TAC:
Julian_Kelly, Rom tight posts. Thanks for the words

Tough times, but this too shall pass... HEY, what about me? I said the same thing... graemlins/mecry.gif

[julian_kelly]

Subconsciously, people often look at jobs, careers, degrees, school, etc. in terms of 'prestige' and what other people think.

Kinda like "I work at X company" or "I got this degree" or "I am an X." Many times than naught, people are more concerned about being in an occupation that is 'admired' by many, and worrying about what everyone else thinks rather than doing what makes them happy.

A person may go to school to be a doctor or an accountant, because it sounds good, but they never really dug deep enough to find out what they really wanted to do. Society determines what is success and people follow that. Soon years go by, and the stark reality hits that the occupation they are spending the majority of their time in is not what they are supposed to be doing; it is not their purpose in life.

People react 1 or 2 ways:

1. They settle and do the same thing everyday for years and live a stressed out life...broken relationship...streessed out...bad health...but scared to make a change because making the change will hurt too much....I see it all the time

2. They decide "It aint worth it" and look for happiness. I would say most folk do #1.

I would venture to say that 80% of most people hate their jobs. I challenge people on dhp to talk to people in their surrounding about how much they enjoy what they do, and most will say no. If youre in that 20% that like their job, consider yourself fortunate.

I ask people all the time "If you had all the money in the world and didnt have to work a job everyday, what would you do?" Most people mention something completely opposite of what their occupation is...interesting....maybe they are doing wrong thing everyday.

People need to learn to put themselves in an occupation where they can wake up most days excited about what lies ahead.

No time to settle
time for soul searching
time for some action
julian kelly

[TAC]

Originally posted by Wild i:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TAC:
Julian_Kelly, Rom tight posts. Thanks for the words

Tough times, but this too shall pass... HEY, what about me? I said the same thing... graemlins/mecry.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I got ya....I got ya...

[TAC]

Originally posted by julian_kelly:

I would venture to say that 80% of most people hate their jobs. I challenge people on dhp to talk to people in their surrounding about how much they enjoy what they do, and most will say no. If youre in that 20% that like their job, consider yourself fortunate.
Julian what you say is valid. But luckily, I am in that 20% of people who actually like what they do. Its not the nature of the work, but the surroundings that I am in. Hence, I could take the pay cut and work for the government doing the same thing from the Agency side. You do make a valid point, though.

Also the old statement goes, "we have nothing to fear but fear itself."

Fear stops us from acheiving.

Fear keeps us locked in hopeless situations.

Fear keeps us from loving and being loved to the fullest extent.

I could go on, but I won't... Well only the future will tell how this all plays out.

Thanks for the support to everybody. Please forgive me, I usually don't get into personal issues on the board because we all have our own pot of sh*t to stir, but the last week and a half has just been overwhelming and I just had to get sh*t off my back.

Peace
TAC

[Wild i]

Julian, your points reminded me of a random thought I had last week but had not analyzed. Now I wonder what you guys think of this:

I was at my sister's messing with my car and got engaged in conversation with her neighbor. Some of the discussion was about my sister's commute (Washington DC to S. Jersey). I said, "That's a brutal commute." To which the neighbor responded, "Yeah, but nice job, though." Now, this neighbor has no idea where my sister works. All she knows is she's an attorney. I thought to myself 'Damn, I should have been a lawyer, if only to have a recognizable job." But you know, my job is at least as impressive once you know what it is (telecomm director). Hell, my sister's not even a boss, but I am.

I found myself wondering if I'd gotten caught up in the trap of "working to impress" rather than working to be happy, if only for a moment. I love my job (finally), but there was a time when I was seriously considering the law, especially when I was a Communications Facility Technical Controller -- long title that was usually followed by "A what?"

I don't know if I'm making clear my ambivilence, but do you guys know what I mean?

What do you think?

[Tee Cee 13]

I am not responsible for others I am only responsible for me... Keep your head held high, and move strait full ahead. Aint no stoppin us now... Don't forget you got us, and we LOVE YA. ;)

[(Im)poster]

Hang in there TAC and keep a song in your heart. :D

Like you, I enjoy what I do, but not who I am doing it with and the circumstance under which I must sometimes work. This thread helped me as well. Thanks all!

I'm really thinking about doing credit counseling and check cashing...

[herb martin]

Peace TAC,

I was great running into you yesterday. Keep your head up my brother. Life take us on many twist and turn but hopefully we come out a little wiser and stronger for the wear. You know how to find me. If you need an ear to bend...get at me.

Peace & Blessings,
Herb

[nev m]

Keep smiling dude. Love is all around you.

[RX]

tac, i truly wish you'd find peace within very soon so you can deal with this situation like the god you are...

smooches to you and i still love yo ass even with the gremlins don't... graemlins/remybussi.gif