How come other Djs have a Resident in your town, when you don't

[Boo Williams]

How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif

[Basecore Boy]

Funny you brought this up. Because I have DJ's in my town and they hate on me because they can't get a spot out my way or attract a crowd. Is that my fault. graemlins/acclaim.gif

[richierich]

Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that??

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif Can't wait to see you in my town tomorrow... graemlins/cheering.gif

[Keith Blackstone]

Originally posted by richierich:
like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? That's called lack of appreciation and getting too used to a good thing. Sorta like the girl who dumps the guy and realizes "Oh shizzy he was a keeper!"

... Usually people go outta town or overseas, make it big and then finally come back to get the adoration they should have gotten in the first place.

Human nature, go figure... we have the same issue here in NYC...

[Boo Williams]

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Funny you brought this up. Because I have DJ's in my town and they hate on me because they can't get a spot out my way or attract a crowd. Is that my fault. graemlins/acclaim.gif I agree with you, it's not your Fault.
maybe it's something their not doing Right... graemlins/sleep2.gif

[Boo Williams]

Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif Can't wait to see you in my town tomorrow... graemlins/cheering.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I will see you Tomorrow...
ready or not here I come, it's gonna be a good one. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

[Koffy Brown]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ashaki:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif Can't wait to see you in my town tomorrow... graemlins/cheering.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I will see you Tomorrow...
ready or not here I come, it's gonna be a good one. graemlins/thumbsup.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Man...when have I not been ready...I was really pissed last weekend because I thought I missed you...now I'm straight...see you then...

[Boo Williams]

Originally posted by richierich:
Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? yo RicheRich, Wassup Dude...
I feel you on that note. graemlins/respekt.gif

[richierich]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by richierich:
Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? yo RicheRich, Wassup Dude...
I feel you on that note. graemlins/respekt.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Wassup man long time no see. (You be on the road boy). Take care of business. Tell C I said hello.
Peace

[larry rauson]

"A prophet can get no respect in his own hometown"

JESUS

[MusicFilter]

Originally posted by richierich:
Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? I half agree with you on that Rich. In this city I'm seeing more polotics (who you know) than talent. Some DJs I know (including myself) don't get the chance to play because we don't know the person hiring. I've been doing this longer than some of the people that are residents.

I guess it's the luck of the draw.

[Edmund White]

Originally posted by chgodj3:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by richierich:
Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? I half agree with you on that Rich. In this city I'm seeing more polotics (who you know) than talent. Some DJs I know (including myself) don't get the chance to play because we don't know the person hiring. I've been doing this longer than some of the people that are residents.

I guess it's the luck of the draw. </font>[/QUOTE]Plus, the Chicago market is saturated.... AND the crowds aren't as "edumacated", so promoters seem to side with the "exotic" out-of-towner or big-name headliner. Sigh...

[richierich]

Originally posted by chgodj3:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by richierich:
Doesn't bother me because I feel like I still have alot of dues to pay. Most cats that have these residencies have decades of experience over me so I really don't think that much about it. When they suck is when I have a problem. There are those here that really deserve to have residencies and don't.. go figure maybe they market themselves more. The outta town thing seems to be a marketing strategy.. like we don't have DJ's here that can rip it.... what's with that?? I half agree with you on that Rich. In this city I'm seeing more polotics (who you know) than talent. Some DJs I know (including myself) don't get the chance to play because we don't know the person hiring. I've been doing this longer than some of the people that are residents.

I guess it's the luck of the draw. </font>[/QUOTE]Shit you got some peeps here that WILL BREAK THERE NECKS BEGGING TO SPIN FOR FREE JUST SO THEY CAN BE SPINNIN'. So peeps that want to get paid
can't because you got DJ hypes. I say if noone is asking you to spin and they've heard you already.. there maybe a reason. A lot of times it's the it's my boy so why not thing instead of just going on who can rock a party. I seen DJ's here play a whole set and noone danced at all and their name is always on somebody's plugger... I don't know

[richierich]

I disagree about the crowd not being educated. We have been hearing very good music here for a very long time. This Is why when some jocks come here get a lukewarm response because they think we aint up on shit so they come half cocked.. We don't play here and will let you know if you suck.. You got people going to parties that have serious collections of their own and have no desire to be a DJ they just want to party and here comes MR.Big shit DJ from wherever playin' sing-a-long classics or some hard techno shit thinkin' we don't know any better... well we do. And we aint hatin' when we say we don't like it.. we just don't like bullshit, weak ass shit!! But some come here from outta town and simply beat the living shit outta the party.....who knows!!

[ May 30, 2003, 04:06 PM: Message edited by: richierich ]

[M-TRAXXX]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif It's called politics!!! When you leave then they'll realise what you were all about. Believe me.

M-TRAXXX.

[Nege]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif I know how that feels,
it's even worse when some of the others are not as good.
But it makes me try harder

SH*&T THIS IS COOL!!!
THERE IS INTERNET IN THIS DJ BOOTH!!!!!!!!!!

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[mangina]

Interesting point and here is my take as a promoter. I too have just signed a Chicago DJ to become a NYC resident as well as having Baltimore DJ's as my other residents.

It's not about where they are from that got them a residency. It's about them CONSISTANTLY turning out a crowd and bring a vibe to the party that others cannot.
It's also a factor that these DJ's DO bring in numbers and I'm sorry to tell you but every bar, club, lounge want to see people at the party drinking or eating more than how many are dancing.
For any party to survive it's a numbers game as well as all the other musical elements.

Most local guys (including some very big names) while being good DJ's, simply cannot bring in enough people to sustain a party more than a few weeks and we all know the spending power problem Deep House heads seem to have at the bar.
This is why most Big Jocks tend to keep to doing monthly parties instead of weekly's.
Your far more likely to get a big crowd doing it once a month. Even then a big crowd at a monthly is no much more than 200 people.

Another factor in resident DJ's is that we are still very clicky! as far as who goes to and who supports what party.
Personally I give gigs to DJ's that actually come to my party on a regular basis. This goes for big and small guns alike. One young guy who has never been heard of before has already had 3 gigs at my party in the last 2 months, simply because he comes each week, PAYS to get in and supports the party.
You wanna get a gig, then show your support and not just post up your latest mix on a few websites and hope that will get you a gig.

An issue that I always seem to encounter from NYC heads is why I use out of town DJ's.
Well the answer is simply that House is global and not just in NYC. We need to share the love and therefore the love will get offered back to us. Yes out of town DJ's cost more with flights, hotels etc but hey, they bring in bigger crowds and justify their fee accordingly.

We have to stop feeling bitter about who gets what gig and why. We need to all support each other's records, parties etc and put the bullshit behind us. Otherwise House in NYC will remain as small as it is.

Just my 2 cents....

[DJ Hutch]

CHECK OUT THE COMMENT BY DJ BIG LOGAN

We have to resort to playing in local bars. This is a shame to have such talent and have no area to perform in. I hope the day will come when you don't have to kiss ass or be gay to play in clubs in NY

http://www.jerseydjs.djhutch.com/djlogan/logan.htm

[Insert pseudonym here]

Time.
Time is a force to be reckoned with,
both good and evil it stands to be.
With knowledge, experience
there comes
power
... but without time
the three will never come to be.
Time.

Thus, timing is everything.

It's easier said, than FELT!

I say this, because I feel like this at the current moment. 3,500 miles away and I'm trying to do my thang in the UK, yet nothing has really come to fruition... but I see your question and now I give you a REALISTIC AND HONEST ANSWER, in which I have to apply to myself.

Just give it time.
Good things come to those who wait.

Cheers!

[ June 01, 2003, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: DJ Efabulous ]

[Cordell]

Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif To whom are you refering to? Is it someone you don't respect as a dj, Or someone who just started djing 2 years ago? Wheather you have been spinning 2years or 22 years, like anything you do out here in the real world, you have to hustle, and that still might not be enough.

[Boo Williams]

Originally posted by Cordell:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by I'm a Friend:
How does it feels, when some other dj has
a Resident in your home town,
when you don't even have one in your town.
just wanted to know, what you think about that...

speak your mind... graemlins/acclaim.gif To whom are you refering to? Is it someone you don't respect as a dj, Or someone who just started djing 2 years ago? Wheather you have been spinning 2years or 22 years, like anything you do out here in the real world, you have to hustle, and that still might not be enough. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm not Refering to anyone, it's not about who
I respect. or who has been spining 2 0r 22 years,I
Just asked a Question. because it seemed like a
good topic.slow down gym shoe.... graemlins/grinyes.gif

[Ronnie Ron]

This is why i think the internet is becoming more and more important. Of course its not a live club with bodies jackin all over the place, but it is a venue to be heard. some stuff you have cant be played on the internet but most can and it gets you some type of exposure. Some folks are jealous of you, some dont think you are worth there time going to see, some folks are just plane ignorant and think only the big names can beat it, and that is way way far from the truth.

I have been plenty of unkown places and the Unkown DJ is beating the shit out of this little bar or tavern and i go to a big club with some of the biggest names in the business and they cant hold my attention. Go figure....

Its who you know and who you are non threatning to. If you beat it to good then some catz wont put you down or will try to hold you down, if you suck catz wont put you down either, so its a double edged sword. :(

If your feeling like your not getting a chance, the best thing to do is to Create your own party from the Ground up and see what happens... that way your in control of your own destiny.

[ June 01, 2003, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: RonnieRon ]

[Bold Soul]

The reality that entertainers are first paid in experience and that money follows experience is something that usually collides with notions of self-worth. There really is no measuring stick, timetable or model of success. It could take someone a year. It could take someone with perceiveably much more going for them twenty years.

Every day I meet someone who has been "discovered" after being in the industry for what seems to be eons. Most others, who make similar remarks to many found in this thread, are living their lives as if they're narrarating their own E True Hollywood Story. Very sad.

One could respond with bitterness, certainly, but if one responds with a sense of personal challenge to overcome their own limitations, the value of the grind becomes clear.

Refinement.

Then, when breakthroughs come, self-honesty and temperance helps maintain your progress, so that the backslide doesn't totally wipe out all your gains (and everyone is familiar with "the backslide". I know I am very intimate with the concept.)

[Cheddar]

Evrybody is different...stick with your integrity and let the cards fall in such an order.

[ERICB]

You could always promote your own party. Most of the estabilished/ big name jocks most likely didn't get where they are by relying solely on promoters booking them. Each learned at some point how to market and promote their god-given talents. Its a part of the game if you really got skills and want to share them with the world. If you believe in what you have enough, I believe, you can make that sh$% happen.

Besides I think more djs should throw their own parties. I think its good for the industry as a whole. We know and love our music, a lot of us just need to learn the business.

[liL Ray]

Most out of town djs playing in your town either couldn't cut it in their town or gets no respect in their town and that's why they are in your town. Can't hate on them because they believe in themselves and their craft enough that they will make it someplace else.

Most djs have very little drive or belief in themselves and this is why they are playing nowhere. They cry and say that others are holding them down, or, some other bullshit, like you have to kiss ass or suck dick(It's funny, you never hear this from the djs who believe in themselves and are playing places) when the bottom line is, they lack the drive to push or promote themselves. They don't even believe in themselves to go out and plan their own party and market their own talent, but they expect others to believe in them.

Another reason why out of towners get the gigs(I'm not sure this is the original question)is that most promoters have heard the local talent and are either bored with them or have no respect for the local talents. Also, most of the local djs have no following, a crucial ingredient to a promoter, as mangina stated, and in some cases, the talent is lacking also. To a promoter, this is business, always remember that....

If you are not getting the gigs and you believe you should, then do something about it....make your own way, do your own party.....one day it will be successful and they will be begging you to play because now you have a following.

....liL Ray

[ June 02, 2003, 06:52 AM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]