WHY DOES YOUR MOM HAVE A PENIS?

[Bill Blake]

I was watching Sex In The City and one of the girls wanted a baby but couldn’t have one, her husband who didn’t want a baby thinking as a joke, to lighten things up since the bad news had cause a lot of problems in their relationship brought home a cardboard cut out of a baby to give to his wife as ‘their’ baby since they couldn’t have one.

This joke, was the last straw that ended up finalizing the divorce stage (and yes I watch Sex In The City, and I also read US magazine so SHUT UP!).

And it got me to thinking about this thread. Humor that for the most part requires an upfront initial response to work, is very subjective in a way.

Take for instance that commercial that Jerry Sienfeld did for American Express where he goes to England to do stand up and none of his jokes are hitting. Why because a good deal of the punch lines require a colloquial understanding of American popular phrases that the English aren’t likely to be familiar with.

No of course we can analyze our responses to jokes, why did we or didn’t we laugh and figure out what motivates us to laugh or not but it really isn’t anyone’s business to argue that people are crazy for having a negative response to this ‘Mexican’ joke when those that were offended understand why they were and even after analyzing why, decide that their response is a valid one for them.

The real question you have to ask yourself is why or why you didn’t find the joke the funny and if that reason for either finding it funny, or offensive or just plain bad is a valid one.

There are reasons it may be funny (the word pun, but honestly I thought the joke, just in that regard alone was not really that funny) but given some of general experiences of Mexicans regarding their heritage and their overall status, and the way other cultures see them may outweigh whatever was ‘funny’ about the word pun, making the joke, to many who are either Mexican, or familiar with their plight not so damn funny.

[liL Ray]

I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City".

[fred da warrior]

I watch Sex in the City AND read Cosmopolitan.
AND I thought the joke was funny.

[JMJ]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". I didn't know that men watched that show.....JMJ

[Wild i]

Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". I didn't know that men watched that show.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]Men don't but Jamie does.


Oooooooo! graemlins/rofl.gif

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by fred:
I watch Sex in the City AND read Cosmopolitan.
AND I thought the joke was funny. But you can see why she didnt find the cardboard baby joke funny right?

And how you could understand that the same could apply to Mexican jokes right?

Oh yea,

And Sex In The City is mad ****ing addictive...when you get the DVD's. Its sooooooo much better to watch them back to back than to wait every week.

God Im gay

[JMJ]

Originally posted by fred:
I watch Sex in the City AND read Cosmopolitan.
AND I thought the joke was funny. You also hate the Cubs. See a physician immediatlely....JMJ

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". You know you watch that shit.....and if you dont...you know you want to.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Wild i:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". I didn't know that men watched that show.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]Men don't but Jamie does.


Oooooooo! graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]Dont forget I read US too

[JMJ]

Originally posted by Wild i:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". I didn't know that men watched that show.....JMJ </font>[/QUOTE]Men don't but Jamie does.


Oooooooo! graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]I was waiting for someone to slam it home! Nice shot!!......JMJ graemlins/rofl.gif

[The Donger]

I am a S.P.I.C.

Spanish Person In Control!

[D J 1 3 8]

no comment on the sex and the city...

Not to keep dragging this out but you did post so...I would still put forth the proposition that this joke was received so badly not for what it was specifically making fun of (a play on words) but for the history of awful racist stereotype jokes that it awakened in people's minds (despite the fact that, on its own merits, this particular bad joke was, IMO, not one of those racist jokes). Sort of guilty by association. I don't mean to discount or demean that association, either. People have emotional responses to things and often with good reason. People can also see the bigger context at work and judge something in that light. I can see the bigger picture at work here, but it still doesn't really change my mind about that particular joke.

the fact that the discussion deteriorated in to a lot of name calling and accusation is another story...

[Bold Soul]

Well done Jamie. An excellent examination of humanities.

[fred da warrior]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
I watch Sex in the City AND read Cosmopolitan.
AND I thought the joke was funny. But you can see why she didnt find the cardboard baby joke funny right?

And how you could understand that the same could apply to Mexican jokes right?

Oh yea,

And Sex In The City is mad ****ing addictive...when you get the DVD's. Its sooooooo much better to watch them back to back than to wait every week.

God Im gay </font>[/QUOTE]While I don't think that the joke needed the typical DHP 10+ thread intellectual breakdown from every possible ****ing angle, I understand on both counts (in particular the baby episode 'cause of personal experience), I just have a thick skin and a sick sense of humor.
I wasn't the best joke ever told, but I thought it was worth a small snicker, and move on to the next topic.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by fred:
I don't think that the joke needed the typical DHP 10+ thread intellectual breakdown from every possible ****ing angleTrue

NUBANG!

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Well done Jamie. An excellent examination of humanities. Sex In The City is mad deep yo

[fred da warrior]

And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming

[MYOR]

I believe the fact that a person can never have a baby is a little difficult to joke about especially since there is nothing that they can ever do to change it. Its like you making fun of someone with downs syndrome or is artistic…

Now the fact that I as a person of another county have an accent is something that every person that immigrates will have & its nothing to be ashamed of… It’s just the natural process of things… When I first came to this country from Dominican Republic, I had an accent when I spoke English big deal… Nothing to be ashamed of. That’s why I found the joke just silly…

I make fun of Chinese, Spanish (Argentinean, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Salvadorians, Cubans etc.)British accents...

Just because I do that doesn’t mean I think you are less of a person… Never did I approach or looked at the joke as Mexicans being less than I,
graemlins/conf44.gif

[fred da warrior]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]That's the point.

[MYOR]

Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif

[Bill Blake]

For the record too....

There are people that are just like 'Yea I know the Mexicans got it bad, shit I am Mexican, but I thought it was funny for the little word play cause Im a dork' too....

Nothing wrong with that really either.....


Its just that for some people that are like 'yea I hate those ****ign tomato pickers oh yea what to Mexicans have under the carpet types' can ruin the fun for us all.

Really not all that complicated....we should lighten and go have a taco or something.

[mhd]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]have you seen the counterpart, Mind of the Married Man?

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by fred:


4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming HA ha ha ha

Just finished season 4 on DVD last night.

Oh yea!

[rob brito]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]an unfair advantage if you will...

[mhd]

Originally posted by fred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]That's the point. </font>[/QUOTE]but let's keep it real, it shows how a particular type of woman thinks

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I am a S.P.I.C.

Spanish Person In Control! Ha Ha at 12 Tribes, your somewhat of a troublmaker, I just noticed your muck

[ June 11, 2003, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Christopher L. Aquilo ]

[Ken1015]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]have you seen the counterpart, Mind of the Married Man? </font>[/QUOTE]No, which is probably why that shit got cancelled.

[MYOR]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]have you seen the counterpart, Mind of the Married Man? </font>[/QUOTE]Only once... Are you telling me I need to sit with pen and paper in hand graemlins/rofl.gif

[mhd]

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]have you seen the counterpart, Mind of the Married Man? </font>[/QUOTE]No, which is probably why that shit got cancelled. </font>[/QUOTE]did you ever see it?

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by MYOR:
I believe Myor, comedey is just a medium.

It can be used to make light of racial problems to bring us closer together and just as easily be used as a medium to subject and marginalize a group of people as well.

And that is not even considering the relationship between reciever and giver of the joke which is a HUGE philosphical consideration that has plagues writers for years.

[fred da warrior]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]That's the point. </font>[/QUOTE]but let's keep it real, it shows how a particular type of woman thinks </font>[/QUOTE]I gotcha. No doubt

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I am a S.P.I.C.

Spanish Person In Control! Ha Ha at 12 Tribes, your somewhat of a troublmaker, I just noticed your muck </font>[/QUOTE]If I were you, I wouldnt go fishing in ponds that dont have fish.

[ June 11, 2003, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Lennox ]

[mhd]

Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]have you seen the counterpart, Mind of the Married Man? </font>[/QUOTE]Only once... Are you telling me I need to sit with pen and paper in hand graemlins/rofl.gif </font>[/QUOTE]nah, something tells me you have a firm grasp on understanding men...

[Martin Red]

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I stop reading after "I was watching Sex In The City". I continued , wished I had have stopped their also graemlins/rofl.gif

Just a note to say that "MOST" AMERICAN SITCOMS SUCK DICK. Except the Simpsons Southpark and a couple of others, canned laughter and people living in huge apartments in Manhattan etc, what are these people ? Donald Trumps bastard kids.

Or some crazy belemic lawyer chic going through some ****ed up prozac moment, or some shrink from seattle acting like a british snob, or some winkly chicks slutting it around NY trying to hold onto their youth, wow cool, they even have gay friends and stuff, ccoool


Oops, I did see 10 mins of comedy with Tom (the geezer out of Cheers) that was alright though.


Carry on

[statuskuo]

Lennox is quite ambiguous.

it's -- Sex And the City

[Bill Blake]

Speaking of how women think, and Sex AND the city

Initially the three friends were saposta be different traits, physiological drives, character aspects of the main one. (Cant think of the right word) Basically, what goes on in the main characters head and her being the centered balance of what is taking place between the other three.

This still goes on in the show but what I like about (and trust me there is some cheese and a few things I don’t like about it) the show is how well developed the writers did make the characters.

[ June 11, 2003, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Lennox ]

[MYOR]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
Speaking of how women think, and Sex AND the city

Initially the three friends were saposta be different traits, physiological drives, character aspects of the main one. (Cant think of the right word) Basically, what goes on in the main characters head and her being the centered balance of what is taking place between the other three.

This still goes on in the show but what I like about (and trust me there is some cheese and a few things I don’t like about it) the show is how well developed the writers did make the characters. My question is how big is MR. BIG??? icon_rofl.gif

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by MYOR:
My question is how big is MR. BIG??? icon_rofl.gif Home boy is mad suave.

Dangerous macking skilz for sure.

[imported_Chr_stopher]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Christopher L. Aquilo:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ghost Of Donger:
I am a S.P.I.C.

Spanish Person In Control! Ha Ha at 12 Tribes, your somewhat of a troublmaker, I just noticed your muck </font>[/QUOTE]If I were you, I wouldnt go fishing in ponds that dont have fish. </font>[/QUOTE]Who said anything about fishing

[Chris Conrad]

Sex & The City contributed to the demise of NYC...everyone wants to be a fabulous blonde, looking fierce, wearing the latest threads, drinking an apple martini...in fact, Sex & The City helped kill house in NYC...

[Kenrick _]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
Speaking of how women think, and Sex AND the city

Initially the three friends were saposta be different traits, physiological drives, character aspects of the main one. (Cant think of the right word) Basically, what goes on in the main characters head and her being the centered balance of what is taking place between the other three.

This still goes on in the show but what I like about (and trust me there is some cheese and a few things I don’t like about it) the show is how well developed the writers did make the characters. good points here. i also think they are some cheesey spots but overall i love the shows honesty (or view) on women and sex.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by christopher conrad:
Sex & The City contributed to the demise of NYC...everyone wants to be a fabulous blonde, looking fierce, wearing the latest threads, drinking an apple martini...in fact, Sex & The City helped kill house in NYC... Yo they mad dissed my hood on there...like 'oh you cant buy your apartment you're gonna get stuck out in weehawken'

I was like shut the **** up bitch.

But cosmo's and apple marts, no matter how trendy....****ing ROCK!

Shut up Chris, you're just jealous call all the hot Manhattenites' mack on me more than you.

[Kenrick _]

Originally posted by christopher conrad:
...everyone wants to be a fabulous blonde, looking fierce, wearing the latest threads, drinking an apple martini...i am not the authority on nyc living but i think that nyc has always have people that have been about vanity way before sex and the city and certainly before house.

[Drrtynewyork]

did lennox get banned from statuskuo again??

[statuskuo]

I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues.

[Bill Blake]

I got mentioned in an old addition of Paper Magazine (fashion central) circa 91 when I didnt even live in NY.

I was part of the talk of the town bitch

[statuskuo]

EDITiON.

[mdpm99]

sax in the ozone

[Leslie]

Originally posted by statuskuo:
I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues. Oh New York Mag, the magazine that doesn't realize that the city isn't just white and jewish New York Mag??

[Gojay]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues. Oh New York Mag, the magazine that doesn't realize that the city isn't just white and jewish New York Mag?? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry about the thread jack :( but...

what makes your comment even funnier is: look who bought a subscription for a year!

Shut up Kuo!
Just my observation!

peace,
gojay

[ June 11, 2003, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Gojay ]

[statuskuo]

Re: NY mag,

I like the way they advertise the escort services in the back. they make it all so classy.

[statuskuo]

Originally posted by Gojay:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues. Oh New York Mag, the magazine that doesn't realize that the city isn't just white and jewish New York Mag?? </font>[/QUOTE]what makes your comment even funnier is: look who bought a subscription for a year! Shut up Kuo!
Just my observation!peace,
gojay </font>[/QUOTE]this shit is more enjoybale than some of the imports i've pruchased as of late. all for less than two discs.

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Gojay:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues. Oh New York Mag, the magazine that doesn't realize that the city isn't just white and jewish New York Mag?? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry about the thread jack :( but...

what makes your comment even funnier is: look who bought a subscription for a year!

Shut up Kuo!
Just my observation!

peace,
gojay </font>[/QUOTE]Tell it like it T-I-S 'tis....

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gojay:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Leslie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by statuskuo:
I got my subscription of New York mag for $17 a year. yo, that's more than 40 issues. Oh New York Mag, the magazine that doesn't realize that the city isn't just white and jewish New York Mag?? </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry about the thread jack :( but...

what makes your comment even funnier is: look who bought a subscription for a year!

Shut up Kuo!
Just my observation!

peace,
gojay </font>[/QUOTE]Tell it like it T-I-S 'tis.... </font>[/QUOTE]well if either of you have seen the shoes Kai has been wearing lately, you'd understand.

[Bougie Soliterre]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MYOR:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by fred:
And hahahahah @ all of the macho men who say they don't watch Sex in the City. Bullshit.

4 chicks who like to bang= quality programming Actually you guys should watch this... It will give you a glimpse of the way we woman think.. biggrinangel.gif </font>[/QUOTE]That's the point. </font>[/QUOTE]but let's keep it real, it shows how a particular type of woman thinks </font>[/QUOTE]not all women maybe but I would say ALOT tho-

[Bill Blake]

How many pairs of shoes do you own Bougie?

[Bougie Soliterre]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
How many pairs of shoes do you own Bougie? not many-maybe 12 or so- would be alot more if I had loot....shoes rock.

[kev]

Did he say he reads "US" magazine? icon_rofl.gif