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TAC

05-29-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by ewwhite:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Mack-Williams:
TAC thinks everyone who DJ's suck. So don't mind him. Not everyone, certian ones. And I am not the witty one, here. [/QUOTE]Check out my stuff at: http://djedwhite.com/mixes smile.gif [/QUOTE]Your stuff is tracky noise. You asked... graemlins/conf44.gif

The live at Frequency 2 mixed by L-Tek is OF THE ****ING CHAIN. That shit has/had me bouncing of the kitchen walls. Funny thing, though, you mixed none of it. Its actually drum and bass, not Jungle. The key is the bass playing lead. Jungle does not have the bass out front like that.

Peace
TAC

Edmund White

05-29-2003, 10:13 PM

A bit harsh.... I know that my work isn't "tracky noise," though. I have a pretty good range of house mixes on the site. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

You sound like a good candidate for the box-set, TAC:
http://www.djedwhite.com/mixes.php?mix=Boxset

Happy listening!

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statuskuo

05-29-2003, 10:37 PM

djedwhite.com = nice site

the set up of the play lists is good. props for not being lazy. I am too fvcking lazy for that.

Edmund White

05-30-2003, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by statuskuo:
djedwhite.com = nice site

the set up of the play lists is good. props for not being lazy. I am too fvcking lazy for that. Thanks, thanks. It was time-consuming getting a nice consistent theme running on the pages, but the end-result was worth it.

05-30-2003, 07:37 AM

I just checked your site and I like it. I'm bookmarking it now. Keep up the good work! graemlins/thumbsup.gif

kuhn

05-30-2003, 07:45 AM

some nice cd covers there !

TAC

05-30-2003, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by ewwhite:
A bit harsh.... I know that my work isn't "tracky noise," though. I have a pretty good range of house mixes on the site. Thanks for the constructive criticism.Harsh, maybe. But I did take the time to click on ALL of the mixes,e except your most recent one that was only downloadable. I even listened to the Boothouse one.

Most of the music was speeding along at what sounded like at least +2, possible +3.

The CD that had the GU stuff you surrunded by other music that just made Glenn's stuff sound weak and lost.

Overall, the CD's were very tracky. The mixing was fine, but again all of the CD's sounded the same. My opinion, of course.

Peace
TAC

[ May 30, 2003, 09:12 AM: Message edited by: TAC ]

Edmund White

05-30-2003, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ewwhite:
A bit harsh.... I know that my work isn't "tracky noise," though. I have a pretty good range of house mixes on the site. Thanks for the constructive criticism.Harsh, maybe. But I did take the time to click on ALL of the mixes,e except your most recent one that was only downloadable. I even listened to the Boothouse one.

Most of the music was speeding along at what sounded like at least +2, possible +3.

The CD that had the GU stuff you surrunded by other music that just made Glenn's stuff sound weak and lost.

Overall, the CD's were very tracky. The mixing was fine, but again all of the CD's sounded the same. My opinion, of course.

Peace
TAC [/QUOTE]Oh lordy. I didn't mean to disgrace Mr. GU/CVO :( As for the +2/+3 stuff, is that a reference to the "negative pitch DJ's" thread from a few days ago?

'Magic' Juan

05-30-2003, 10:51 AM

Yo E-dub ... don't let the negative criticism get to you. Props to you for experimenting with all the various facets of this thing we call House. So what's wrong with tracky House? To each their own, I suppose. Definitely good Cd covers, too. Keep it up!

magic_juan graemlins/thumbsup.gif

TAC

05-30-2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by ewwhite:
Oh lordy. I didn't mean to disgrace Mr. GU/CVO :( As for the +2/+3 stuff, is that a reference to the "negative pitch DJ's" thread from a few days ago? re: +2/+3, no, my comment stood on its own. You didn't disgrace anything. It was just the way that you presented his stuff, it caused it to get lost. Don't sweat it bro. You've got your own style, and it seems to work for you.

Peace
TAC

TAC

05-30-2003, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by magic_juan:
...don't let the negative criticism get to you. Props to you for experimenting with all the various facets of this thing we call House. So what's wrong with tracky House? To each their own, I suppose.This a good point. I'm just one voice, and I'm from another part of the country anyway.

Peace
TAC

Skip Intro

05-30-2003, 11:46 AM

Don't sweat it Ed. I find your mixes wildly more interesting than those of the originator of this post...No offense. Do your thing...
with or without the obligatory MAW or Blaze cut.

peace,

TAC

05-30-2003, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Mykhal:
Don't sweat it Ed. I find your mixes wildly more interesting than those of the originator of this post...No offense. Do your thing...
with or without the obligatory MAW or Blaze cut.

peace, Yo Mykhal, you actually took the time to listen to my mixes? Thanks a million. I'm honored. I wasn't sure whether anyone actually listened.

Blaze/MAW - too funny

Peace
TAC

Edmund White

05-30-2003, 12:13 PM

Word. I'm just being weird. I know that everyone won't dig my mixes. It's cool, though. I'm here to learn, too...... My house knowledge only goes back to 1993, when I thought Bad Boy Bill and Julian Jumpin' Perez were the only things out there.

Ken1015

05-30-2003, 12:22 PM

The way I look at it is, whether or not I like your music you are doing something that a lot of wish we were doing which is marketing and selling your music. Keep up the good work.

simon b

05-30-2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
The way I look at it is, whether or not I like your music you are doing something that a lot of wish we were doing which is marketing and selling your music. Keep up the good work. Marketing and selling other people's music you mean....hope they are getting their cut.

Ken1015

05-30-2003, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by simon b:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
The way I look at it is, whether or not I like your music you are doing something that a lot of wish we were doing which is marketing and selling your music. Keep up the good work. Marketing and selling other people's music you mean....hope they are getting their cut. [/QUOTE]They got their cut when he originally bought the records. That issue was brought up in the US courts a few years ago and the courts agreed with my first sentence.

TAC

05-30-2003, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by simon b:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
The way I look at it is, whether or not I like your music you are doing something that a lot of wish we were doing which is marketing and selling your music. Keep up the good work. Marketing and selling other people's music you mean....hope they are getting their cut. [/QUOTE]They got their cut when he originally bought the records. That issue was brought up in the US courts a few years ago and the courts agreed with my first sentence. [/QUOTE]That's the first saledoctrine. But it does not addres the issue of subsequent copying of the work.

Don't get me started. To make CD's and sell em is an infringing act.

To make CDs and pass them out to your friends for free is not an infringing act.

Peace
TAC

[ May 30, 2003, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: TAC ]

'Magic' Juan

05-30-2003, 01:40 PM

If that indeed is the case, why haven't all the little kiosks (sp?) like the ones at the malls get busted for it? Lots of fairly well known and unknown DJ's sell their mixtapes at places such as these for $10-$15 a pop and no one ever says anything. Is there a difference between what ewwhite does and what the vendors in the malls do?

magic_juan

TAC

05-30-2003, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by magic_juan:
If that indeed is the case, why haven't all the little kiosks (sp?) like the ones at the malls get busted for it? Lots of fairly well known and unknown DJ's sell their mixtapes at places such as these for $10-$15 a pop and no one ever says anything. Is there a difference between what ewwhite does and what the vendors in the malls do?

magic_juan I don't know. You tell me. graemlins/conf44.gif

Enforcement is the problem here. Not whether or not there is infringement.

Ken1015

05-30-2003, 02:01 PM

Forget about the little guys then. Does anyone know if the artists on my Body & Soul CDs or the ones I own by Frankie Knuckles, LLV, Tony Humphries, etc. received any payment. I doubt it because, like I said, I thought the issue was settled by the First Sale Doctrine but I'd really like to know.

simon b

05-30-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Forget about the little guys then. Does anyone know if the artists on my Body & Soul CDs or the ones I own by Frankie Knuckles, LLV, Tony Humphries, etc. received any payment. I doubt it because, like I said, I thought the issue was settled by the First Sale Doctrine but I'd really like to know. Are you serious? It's called llicensing....it's how many small labels are actually able to make profit.

Ken1015

05-30-2003, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by simon b:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Soulful1015:
Forget about the little guys then. Does anyone know if the artists on my Body & Soul CDs or the ones I own by Frankie Knuckles, LLV, Tony Humphries, etc. received any payment. I doubt it because, like I said, I thought the issue was settled by the First Sale Doctrine but I'd really like to know. Are you serious? It's called llicensing....it's how many small labels are actually able to make profit. [/QUOTE]Yes I'm serious and I guess you answered the question. graemlins/conf44.gif

Edmund White

05-30-2003, 02:29 PM

This is always a touchy topic in the DJ community. It's strange, because there don't seem to be many provisions in modern copyright law for this specific case. I mentioned this in the thread: "A Question for the DJ's..." (http://deephousepage.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=030084;p=1).

Where *should* the line be drawn? I've paid for my vinyl. The clubs I play in pay their live-performance ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC license fees. When I mix live on the radio (like next week on WNUR in Chicago), I know that the station pays some assortment of fees to the aforementioned groups and perhaps the FCC... If I wish to give CD's to people for free, that's fine.... but if I sell to recoup the costs of distributing CD's with the pretty cover art (see above, cuz ink and labels cost money), that's bad..... But all of those discs are also available as streaming Real Audio files *and* 160kbps mp3's fom my very-public website!

So here's an even more confusing one..... Who the heck do I pay if I decide to sell the mix CD that was mixed live on a license-paying radio station, using the records I purchased when there's a free-for-all download available and I've received permission from said radio station to market the live mix??

Ken1015

05-30-2003, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by ewwhite:
So here's an even more confusing one..... Who the heck do I pay if I decide to sell the mix CD that was mixed live on a license-paying radio station, using the records I purchased when there's a free-for-all download available and I've received permission from said radio station to market the live mix?? This is quite the conundrum you present here. My head is hurting. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/confused.gif

Edmund White

05-30-2003, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Soulful1015:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ewwhite:
So here's an even more confusing one..... Who the heck do I pay if I decide to sell the mix CD that was mixed live on a license-paying radio station, using the records I purchased when there's a free-for-all download available and I've received permission from said radio station to market the live mix?? This is quite the conundrum you present here. My head is hurting. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/confused.gif [/QUOTE]Well, it happened to me with the "Live at Streetbeat" Mix. Someone filed a complaint to the station about the fact that I was selling the CD of the live set I did there a year or two ago. The station's manager informed me of this complaint, but assured me that it was fine as long as I gave people the option of obtaining the music for free (mp3 and real audio).