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mdpm99
11-20-2003, 08:52 PM
Please excuse the arrows and etc.....

d.

On his radio show he's made it clear he wants all bars & clubs in NY to cose by 2am.
For years the cabaret laws have been an undefined way to control & oppress the night life in NY.
If that wasn't enough, Bloomberg is now planning to take that a big step further.
On the surface it sounds like he's championing for the residents.
So I would not be surprised if he get there full support
& also on the surface someone might even think this is an improvement in the cabaret laws.
But read between the lines, this is all about control.
It mentions a public hearing they had in June 2003.
Basically the people that were informed & invited were hand picked.
& if you blink, this might be passed right under your nose.
This will effect everybody!
Just thought you should know.

Please spread the news...


> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> November 19, 2003
>
> CONSUMER AFFAIRS COMMISSIONER GRETCHEN DYKSTRA
> ANNOUNCES PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE CITY'S CABARET LAW
>
> DCA Proposes New 'Nightlife License' to Address Community Concerns
>
> New York City Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) Commissioner Gretchen
> Dykstra today announced a proposal that would abolish the City's cabaret law
> and institute a new nightlife license to address ongoing community concerns
> including noise, disorderly crowds, and dirty sidewalks. The proposal,
> unique in the nation, will require City Council approval. Under the
> proposal, establishments meeting all three of the following criteria will be
> required to obtain a two-year nightlife license from the DCA:
>
> * Located in residential and some mixed-use zones with a capacity of
> more than 75 or in commercial, manufacturing, and mixed-use zones with a
> capacity of more than 200.
> * Choose to have continuous live or reproduced sound at a noise level
> of 90 decibels or higher.
> * Remain open after 1:00AM.
>
> Licensed nightlife establishments will be able to choose the noise level
> they wish to maintain and must have a professional sound engineer certify
> that they are in compliance with the City's Noise Code at that level.
>
> "New York City has the most exciting nightlife in the world," said DCA
> Commissioner Gretchen Dykstra. "However, the cabaret law regulating
> establishments with dancing does not effectively address what have become
> perennial problems for communities and law enforcement. Regulations should
> address problems, and we have found that the problems are consistently the
> same -- noise emanating from establishments, disorderly crowds, and dirty
> sidewalks. This proposal promotes a lively nightlife without requiring a
> license to dance, and most importantly, it will improve the quality-of-life
> in neighborhoods and strengthen enforcement to effectively deal with poorly
> managed places."
>
> During the past year, the DCA has worked to review the existing law with
> multiple government agencies, City Council members, and dozens of
> cabaret/bar owners, noise consultants, community groups, dance
> organizations, and other trade associations. In addition, the DCA held a
> public hearing in June 2003 with expert panels and public testimony.
>
>
> Highlights of the proposal include:
>
> * Establishments that meet the same criteria three times or less in
> one year will be able to obtain an expedited special nightlife permit.
>
> * The proposal will not change existing fire and zoning regulations.
>
> * The local Community Boards will have a 45-day comment period to
> report its recommendation on a new application.
>
> * Establishments with capacity levels of 500 or more occupants will be
> required to have one state-certified security guard for every 50 occupants.
> These guards would also be responsible for maintaining order outside the
> establishment when needed.
>
> * Nightlife establishments must make a good faith effort to ensure
> that the crowds entering or leaving do not cause disturbances and that
> vehicles outside are quiet. In addition, establishments will be required to
> keep the areas outside the establishment clean.
>
> * Following New York City Department of Environmental Protection
> standards, the DCA will be authorized to enforce the Noise Code using
> digital sound meters recognized by the industry.
>
> * DCA will be authorized to order occupants to vacate the premises
> immediately if exit doors or fire doors are found blocked or locked.
>
> * Violations for licensees (which will include exceeding the chosen
> noise level) would range up to $250 for the first violation and up to $1,000
> for the third violation. If a licensee receives three adjudicated license
> violations within two years, DCA will be authorized to padlock the
> establishment for up to 30 days.
>
> * DCA will be able to revoke a license if the location is repeatedly
> in violation of any three of the following egregious City or State laws:
> unlicensed sale of liquor; sale of liquor to minors; overcapacity; disabled
> sprinkler systems, exit signs or emergency lighting; blocked or locked
> exits; assault; rape or attempted rape; possessions of weapons; or homicide.
>
>
> The City's Cabaret Law was promulgated in 1926 and currently covers
> establishments that serve food and/or drink to the public and have patrons
> dancing. It is illegal to operate a cabaret in New York City without a
> license from the DCA.
>
> Noise emanating from bars and clubs continues to be a top complaint at 311,
> the City's 24-hour citizen service hotline. For a list of common noise
> levels and zoning maps, visit www.nyc.gov (http://www.nyc.gov) <http://www.nyc.gov> .
>
> ###
>
>
>

> New York City Department of Consumer Affairs

>
> Visit us on the Web: www.nyc.gov/consumers (http://www.nyc.gov/consumers)

Rodney Ransom
11-21-2003, 12:10 AM
Thank you david as usual you are always droping science. Thanks I will spread the word. smile.gif

DJ Keith Porter
11-21-2003, 06:57 AM
Bumberg is tripping!
He just said [quote] This is the greatest city in the world[Quote] Now he wants to ruin night life. Tourist come from all over the world just because of our night life.

The guy clearly has no interest on rebuilding this city. Every time I turn around I'm reading how he is tearing the city apart. His interest is all political gain for him self. I saw it when he first claim to run for NYC Mayor.

I don't see him getting re-elected at all.
I didn't vote for him the first time and I dam sure not going to vote for him next time!

Mike Bloomberg = Jackass!

Thanks Dave!

DJ Timmy Richardson
11-21-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by DJ Keith Porter:
Bumberg is tripping!
He just said [quote] This is the greatest city in the world[Quote] Now he wants to ruin night life. Tourist come from all over the world just because of our night life.

The guy clearly has no interest on rebuilding this city. Every time I turn around I'm reading how he is tearing the city apart. His interest is all political gain for him self. I saw it when he first claim to run for NYC Mayor.

I don't see him getting re-elected at all.
I didn't vote for him the first time and I dam sure not going to vote for him next time!

Mike Bloomberg = Jackass!

Thanks Dave! I wouldnt go so far as to call the guy a jackass. This was a plan the city was trying to put into effect when Booliani was in office. You remember him..The mayor that had racial tension in this city at the ultimate high. I'm happy to say I haven't been pulled over for no reason since he has taken office. And I dont go home smelling like ash when I leave a club now.

corwin
11-21-2003, 08:21 AM
C'mon, guys. What do you expect? He's a Bostonian.

BTW, thanks for posting this David.

Jay Rags
11-21-2003, 09:33 AM
People of New York City please pay close attention to this info passed along by David. Don't let this happen to your nightlife. Here in Baltimore the clubs that serve alcohol must close by 2am. It has made our club experience retarted. There are some songs that sound so good at, let's say 4am, but our clubs have to close early...So some dj's have rush things along to get a good mix of songs in. DC has a pretty good thing going on because their clubs have to stop serving alcohol also but the club can stay open after that.

DJ Keith Porter
11-21-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by DJ Timmy Richardson:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DJ Keith Porter:
Bumberg is tripping!
He just said
This is the greatest city in the world[Quote] Now he wants to ruin night life. Tourist come from all over the world just because of our night life.

The guy clearly has no interest on rebuilding this city. Every time I turn around I'm reading how he is tearing the city apart. His interest is all political gain for him self. I saw it when he first claim to run for NYC Mayor.

I don't see him getting re-elected at all.
I didn't vote for him the first time and I dam sure not going to vote for him next time!

Mike Bloomberg = Jackass!

Thanks Dave! I wouldnt go so far as to call the guy a jackass. This was a plan the city was trying to put into effect when Booliani was in office. You remember him..The mayor that had racial tension in this city at the ultimate high. I'm happy to say I haven't been pulled over for no reason since he has taken office. And I dont go home smelling like ash when I leave a club now. </font>Maybe I shouldn't call anyone any names but, TOT you have to admit the guy is not fit to be the mayor.

Hes running people out the city. He is trying run the city like a business. I feel as anyone who take a City, State or country positions their power is with the people because they are the ones who put them in office is the first place.

Its been done over and over and over and over and over again.. You get these politicians popping all that trash in there campaign and once they get into office they do the total opposite. Its like they never had those intentions in the first place. Wouldn't you think.

His veiws on how the city should be is some fary tail illusion.
Think back when he was asking everybody to pick up strangers on the roads because MTA was going to strike.
I don't know about you but, I never seen hitch hiking in NYC so, I don't see how he could have thought people would have been ok with it.
Also, he goes out and buys his self a new bike and rides to city hall promoting everyone to bike a bike. (Just like a business man) Not to mention people couldn't afford to buy anything after 911. Mind you his bike cost $1000... Common Timmy.

BTW. if you have not been stopped for driving while black in this city: consider your self lucky... Its happening my brother its happening. You keep making the right turns. Try making a left.

As far as the smoking law I agree with you.
I think the no-smoking band is good for everyone.
I wouldn't want to go home after a night of fun smelling like cigarettes and I don't even smoke. Point taken.

Ok he is not a Jackass he is a business man. Don't you agree?

asnexprss
11-21-2003, 11:13 AM
David:

As it seems the repeal of this anachronistic Cabaret law will be replaced by this new Nightlife License, what seems to be the issue you have with the new proposal - what particular aspects that have been cited from this June meeting are you in contention with? Although I did not hear the comments he made on the radio, it appears that under this proposal, clubs and bars can remain open given the fulfillment of certain conditions. As I think that there must be some sort of minimum guidance established for NYC nightlife culture in lieu of the Cabaret Law's repeal, what would the ideal set of rules consist of? Interested in your insight.

As far as Bloomberg goes, I think that as unpopular as he is, he has had to make some very difficult choices, financial and otherwise, in light of the less than rosy situation he inherited. He's made some good choices and many bad, and yes his businessman philsophies may have influenced his decisions poorly in some cases, but in this context I don't think he is trying to discourage NYC nightlife. Just from a revenue standpoint, could NYC stand to lose this?

Thanks in advance.

Jay Rags
11-21-2003, 11:18 AM
On his radio show he's made it clear he wants all bars & clubs in NY to close by 2am.

Leslie
11-21-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by jay rags:
On his radio show he's made it clear he wants all bars & clubs in NY to close by 2am. And there is your price of revamping the current laws - ain't nothing free in America....this new proposal is starting to look like its about shape up rather ugly. I strongly suggest the smaller places band together, pool the money, and HIRE appropriate people to look out for their interests.