TOO MANY CLIQUES? ON THE HOUSE SCENE [Archive]

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 10:27 AM

Does the House Scene seem to have way to many cliques? could this be preventing the music from taking it to another level. Im not talking mainstream just better for us in all ways. are the message boards helping to fuel the fire? whats your thoughts?

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DJ HUTCH
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[ June 04, 2003, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: DJ HUTCH ]

Jamie 3:26

06-04-2003, 10:29 AM

Hutch,in all due respect...this is the bullshit that keeps up drama.Why cross post a topic that will start controversy?Let it stay where it was posted.That's adding fuel to the fire.......

Cheddar

06-04-2003, 10:30 AM

Nah...just too many people that think they do exist.

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by JAMIE 3:26:
Hutch,in all due respect...this is the bullshit that keeps up drama.Why cross post a topic that will start controversy?Let it stay where it was posted.That's adding fuel to the fire....... DRAMA FOR WHO YOU NOT ME.

Jamie 3:26

06-04-2003, 10:33 AM

Nevermind.....have fun.

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 10:33 AM

I love it when people who seem to have some huge desire to up their whatever 'state, peeps' blah blah blah (that would be you from a good deal of your posts HUTCH)

Are the first to try to say how clicks are hurting shit.

M3taPhsX

06-04-2003, 10:33 AM

People keep bringing the white, black thing...that's the biggest divion I'm seeing.

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 10:41 AM

What cliques? Trust me, it is not as bad(good?) as in the past. There is 2 sides to every coin.

If anything, there isn't enough "cliques"(I prefer to call them alliances)in the scene. Everybody out for themselves and, for the most part, failing miserably(sp?). Alliances has always been a part of the scene from the start....ever wonder why in the early 80s(for those who were around) it was so hard to get a dj gig, or how come everyone knew each other or how come only the top dj got certain records? It has always been there and, IMO, it is healthy for the scene.

The 2 alliances("cliques" for those who only see the negative) that I see are doing very well and will continue to do so is:

The MAW camp
and
The Yellorange camp.

Of course there are others on the rise.

Think about it....but I guess that's not where the intended topic question wanted to go. There is always positives even within the negative....just look.

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I love it when people who seem to have some huge desire to up their whatever 'state, peeps' blah blah blah (that would be you from a good deal of your posts HUTCH)

Are the first to try to say how clicks are hurting shit. AND YOU SAID THAT FOR WHAT??? NEW JERSEY IS THE STATE AND???

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 10:48 AM

Heah HUTCH, you started the topic, so if you want serious dialogue on it, initiate the dialogue in your answers to folks...don't just get into a pissing contest.....anyway, I answered the topic question, let's see where it goes.

[ June 04, 2003, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: liL Ray ]

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I love it when people who seem to have some huge desire to up their whatever 'state, peeps' blah blah blah (that would be you from a good deal of your posts HUTCH)

Are the first to try to say how clicks are hurting shit. AND YOU SAID THAT FOR WHAT??? NEW JERSEY IS THE STATE AND??? [/QUOTE]What I mean is you have come up here with those 'big up jersey house, dj's type posts' and that is clique oriented....i.e. the 'jersey clique'.

If 'cliques' are hurting the 'scene' (which I could care less about) just remember you are part of one and seem to revel in it.

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
I love it when people who seem to have some huge desire to up their whatever 'state, peeps' blah blah blah (that would be you from a good deal of your posts HUTCH)

Are the first to try to say how clicks are hurting shit. AND YOU SAID THAT FOR WHAT??? NEW JERSEY IS THE STATE AND??? [/QUOTE]What I mean is you have come up here with those 'big up jersey house, dj's type posts' and that is clique oriented....i.e. the 'jersey clique'.

If 'cliques' are hurting the 'scene' (which I could care less about) just remember you are part of one and seem to revel in it. [/QUOTE]Jamie, go to the top of the class....Brilliant!

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Heah HUTCH, you started the topic, so if you want serious dialogue on it, initiate the dialogue in your answers to folks...don't just get into a pissing contest.....anyway, I answered the topic question, let's see where it goes. graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Tony Cano

06-04-2003, 10:58 AM

this isn't directed at anyone. just general discussion.

truth is there are "perceived" camps. so what? it don't mean a thing. only thing that will hold you back is yourself.

everybody can not work together. too many cooks spoil the soup. so find you a group that you can work with and go after it. this means from production, remixing, promoting, djing, website, or anything else. start your own.

again, the only person holding you back is yourself. get out there and do it. even if you fail, get up and try again.

tc

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 10:59 AM

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by tcano:

again, the only person holding you back is yourself. get out there and do it. even if you fail, get up and try again.

tc Great words..

...as folks busy sit around wondering if there are too many "cliques" in the scene and is it bad for them or the scene, the scene and their dreams are passing them by......if you think it takes a 'clique' to get you to play at a party, then form one or build a better club....if you think a 'clique' is bad for the scene, then do you and don't worry about it, because if it is bad, it will ultimately fail.

I know one thing, the average party goer paying his/her money to come in the party certainly is not concern about 'cliques' in the scene...they are concerned about having a ****ING GREAT TIME AND THAT'S IT!!

Jamie 3:26

06-04-2003, 11:08 AM

Seriously,why does it matter if you are down by yourself or with a crew?TC said it best..."Everyone can not work together.."

Just do ya thang and stop complaining.

I guess it's time for another DHP break...

yodvibes

06-04-2003, 11:15 AM

1.Make sure if you talk the talk, walk the walk. In other words, instead ramblin, complainin and talkin, put the PS2 remote down, and work on making your situation better. If it doesn't come to you, make your own.

2.There's safety in numbers. With that said, remember, the doors can swing open for you, but in the end its still up to you walk through it and not get pushed back out. graemlins/beerchug.gif

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 11:23 AM

Exactly what "cliques" are we talking about? Which ones do you have a problem with? Do you have a problem with "cliques"? Or is it only the ones you are not close with that you have a problem with? What is your definition of a "clique"?

These question are for those who are so concerned with "cliques".

Thank you....have a nice day. smile.gif

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 11:25 AM

Oh, by the way HUTCH....it should read "Too" not "To" in your topic header....could you edit that please....thanks.

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 11:48 AM

HUTCH

Ask Louie Vega if cliques have a damn thing to do with his success or whether he gives a rats ass. And hell, remember he has got his too.

All in all they are there because some people are into some shit that others aren’t and so on.

Nothing wrong with that….

But keep in mind that the billion dollar hip hop industry has more cliques than imaginable and doesn’t seem to be hurting its success.

And for those that chose to use violence in their clique’s confrontations, those are just stupid cliques.

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
HUTCH

Ask Louie Vega if cliques have a damn thing to do with his success or whether he gives a rats ass. And hell, remember he has got his too.

All in all they are there because some people are into some shit that others aren’t and so on.

Nothing wrong with that….

But keep in mind that the billion dollar hip hop industry has more cliques than imaginable and doesn’t seem to be hurting its success.

And for those that chose to use violence in their clique’s confrontations, those are just stupid cliques. WHY ARE YOU ON ME ABOUT THIS TOPIC? JUST GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS.

[ June 04, 2003, 01:14 PM: Message edited by: DJ HUTCH ]

Keith Blackstone

06-04-2003, 12:14 PM

I'm not tryin to be a comedian here, but clear english helps people understand what the point is that you're trying to get across...

...my 1.5 cents (inflation as told by Wild I)

NubianSista

06-04-2003, 12:30 PM

Great words..

...as folks busy sit around wondering if there are too many "cliques" in the scene and is it bad for them or the scene, the scene and their dreams are passing them by......if you think it takes a 'clique' to get you to play at a party, then form one or build a better club....if you think a 'clique' is bad for the scene, then do you and don't worry about it, because if it is bad, it will ultimately fail.

I know one thing, the average party goer paying his/her money to come in the party certainly is not concern about 'cliques' in the scene...they are concerned about having a ****ING GREAT TIME AND THAT'S IT!!

I just want to dance graemlins/conf44.gif

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
HUTCH

Ask Louie Vega if cliques have a damn thing to do with his success or whether he gives a rats ass. And hell, remember he has got his too.

All in all they are there because some people are into some shit that others aren’t and so on.

Nothing wrong with that….

But keep in mind that the billion dollar hip hop industry has more cliques than imaginable and doesn’t seem to be hurting its success.

And for those that chose to use violence in their clique’s confrontations, those are just stupid cliques. WHY ARE YOU ON ME ABOUT THIS TOPIC? JUST GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS. [/QUOTE]Im not on you....I have no problem with you.

But I would like to know what motivated you to post the question?

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
Oh, by the way HUTCH....it should read "Too" not "To" in your topic header....could you edit that please....thanks. graemlins/thumbsup.gif
THANKS
DJ HUTCH

Drrtynewyork

06-04-2003, 12:50 PM

egos not cliques mess shit up

yunique

06-04-2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by DOUG GOMEZ:
egos not cliques mess shit up Yes, you are so right! graemlins/grinyes.gif

Basecore Boy

06-04-2003, 01:16 PM

Some humans are ****ed up. Shame how people just will attack others and make fun of them.

Some people need to find happiness, than attacks.

God help house heads. They don't really listen to the music and the messages.

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:

THE JERSEYDJS.COM TEAM So is this a clique or not?

Basecore Boy

06-04-2003, 01:41 PM

Give it a break

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 01:43 PM

I see this topic certainly went nowhere.

other "cliques"???:

House Callz
Underground Collective
Freedom & Unity crew
Slam Mode
Metro Area
ThinkSoul

or is this just bulls**t??

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
Give it a break You give it a break.

Or is Hutch in your clique?

People come on complaining about cliques that seem to be in cliques.

Like I said I dont care if he, you or anyone else is.

And then YOU, come on the board talking about how everyone treats everyone with no respect PLUR blah blah blah blah blah BUT when I point out what appears to be an obvious contradiction, instead of being in agreement you seem to 'stand up' for your boy........more clique shit.

It seems to me, from a moral standpoint, you are in no position to judge anyone, unless you want to lose respect.

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 01:48 PM

Anyways.....

DJ HUTCH welcome to the board.

Basecore Boy

06-04-2003, 01:49 PM

I will stand up to anyone doing wrong to others. Like or leave it.

Don't have to be in no clique. Just love people, try it.

yunique

06-04-2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
I see this topic certainly went nowhere.

other "cliques"???:

House Callz
Underground Collective
Freedom & Unity crew
Slam Mode
Metro Area
ThinkSoul

or is this just bulls**t?? Wow Ray I didn't know house-callz was a clique. I thought my hubby, the girls and I were just a family promoting muzak that we tend to like. Wait 'til I break the news to them. I guess my girls will be happy to know that they are "down". WOO HOO!! Go us! graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/OLA.gif

Bill Blake

06-04-2003, 01:54 PM

Who said anyone was 'doing wrong' to others?

I dont equate someone implying a contradiction about group association 'doing wrong to others'.

Lighten up......... http://www.iowest.com/images/shows/bass.jpg http://www.core-online.org/images/final%20small%20core%20logo.gif http://www.inform.umd.edu/fsap/boy.gif

Moksha

06-04-2003, 01:54 PM

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liL Ray

06-04-2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by yunique:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I see this topic certainly went nowhere.

other "cliques"???:

House Callz
Underground Collective
Freedom & Unity crew
Slam Mode
Metro Area
ThinkSoul

or is this just bulls**t?? Wow Ray I didn't know house-callz was a clique. I thought my hubby, the girls and I were just a family promoting muzak that we tend to like. Wait 'til I break the news to them. I guess my girls will be happy to know that they are "down". WOO HOO!! Go us! graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/OLA.gif [/QUOTE]Oh boy.....I see you didn't get the gist of my post.....I really can't bother to explain it...try and keep up. Hint: the topic is bullshit...the cliques are in peoples mind, they don't exist! Hope that helps....have a great day!

yunique

06-04-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by yunique:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by liL Ray:
I see this topic certainly went nowhere.

other "cliques"???:

House Callz
Underground Collective
Freedom & Unity crew
Slam Mode
Metro Area
ThinkSoul

or is this just bulls**t?? Wow Ray I didn't know house-callz was a clique. I thought my hubby, the girls and I were just a family promoting muzak that we tend to like. Wait 'til I break the news to them. I guess my girls will be happy to know that they are "down". WOO HOO!! Go us! graemlins/thumbsup.gif graemlins/OLA.gif [/QUOTE]Oh boy.....I see you didn't get the gist of my post.....I really can't bother to explain it...try and keep up. Hint: the topic is bullshit...the cliques are in peoples mind, they don't exist! Hope that helps....have a great day! [/QUOTE]I forgot I have a wry sense of humor that most people do not "get" . . . Suffice it to say I did get the gist ray graemlins/acclaim.gif :D

liL Ray

06-04-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by yunique:
[QUOTE] I forgot I have a wry sense of humor that most people do not "get" . . . Suffice it to say I did get the gist ray graemlins/acclaim.gif :D yeah, awright, cool....I'll believe it this time...you got that one.... graemlins/beerchug.gif

yunique

06-04-2003, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by liL Ray:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by yunique:

I forgot I have a wry sense of humor that most people do not "get" . . . Suffice it to say I did get the gist ray graemlins/acclaim.gif :D yeah, awright, cool....I'll believe it this time...you got that one.... graemlins/beerchug.gif Well it's like I tell people . . . they call me Yunique for a reason! graemlins/cheering.gif

Ronnie Ron

06-04-2003, 02:52 PM

i just got in from work i was reading all of the posts and i came up on this one i was saying to myself damn i just did a post like this yesterday on our board, but when i opened it i saw that it was my words, This post was not intended for DHP and was not intended to start trouble with anyone in the House comunity. I aint mad atcha hutch for posting it because i often post things of interest on House-Callz i see on the DHP. Hopefully know one took this the wrong way

R-R

DJ Hutch

06-04-2003, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:

THE JERSEYDJS.COM TEAM So is this a clique or not? [/QUOTE]JERSEYDJS.COM IS MY TEAM OF ME THAT ALL

DJJM3.COM

06-05-2003, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Basecore Boy:
I will stand up to anyone doing wrong to others. Like or leave it.

Don't have to be in no clique. Just love people, try it. Where were you 4 months ago?

DJ Hutch

06-05-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by RonnieRon:
i just got in from work i was reading all of the posts and i came up on this one i was saying to myself damn i just did a post like this yesterday on our board, but when i opened it i saw that it was my words, This post was not intended for DHP and was not intended to start trouble with anyone in the House comunity. I aint mad atcha hutch for posting it because i often post things of interest on House-Callz i see on the DHP. Hopefully know one took this the wrong way

R-R graemlins/thumbsup.gif

DJ Hutch

06-05-2003, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ HUTCH:

THE JERSEYDJS.COM TEAM So is this a clique or not? [/QUOTE]what is your clique name???