Re: Theo Parrish and his Ugly Edits [Archive]

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 10:41 AM

Is this his version of a urinal in an art gallery?

Monny JcIntosh

12-23-2003, 10:43 AM

Comes in a limited edition set of 5. Haha!

Jacques de Doozu

12-23-2003, 10:48 AM

if you want to make a statement of some sort, make sure you use a valid comparison.

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by Tom D:
if you want to make a statement of some sort, make sure you use a valid comparison. I did.

Think about it...

eleeut

12-23-2003, 10:51 AM

weren't at least some of them done as tape edits?

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 10:54 AM

Not really.I am cool with Theo,but I will NOT pay 13.00 dollars for something I could have done better myself.

JMJ

12-23-2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
Not really.I am cool with Theo,but I will NOT pay 13.00 dollars for something I could have done better myself. Bingo. No disrespect, but those edits are amateurish compared to some of the stuff made in Chicago.......JMJ

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 10:59 AM

But he is doing a shitty job on purpose, no? Hence the name "Ugly Edits"?

JMJ

12-23-2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
But he is doing a shitty job on purpose, no? Hence the name "Ugly Edits"? And DJ's (sheep) buy these records. Good for him......JMJ ;)

djklas

12-23-2003, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
But he is doing a shitty job on purpose, no? Hence the name "Ugly Edits"? And DJ's (sheep) buy these records. Good for him......JMJ ;) [/QUOTE]baah graemlins/cool_shades.gif

statuskuo

12-23-2003, 11:13 AM

i am going to make trainwreck mixes in style.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 11:22 AM

At least he puts his edits out. A number of people are dying to get Ron Hardy edits which were never put out. If you don't like them, good for you.

No what really ticks me off is the quality of some of his pressings on SS... the last one just skips all over the place, seems like the bass are very high too. Does he do THIS on purpose?

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by DJ76:
At least he puts his edits out. A number of people are dying to get Ron Hardy edits which were never put out. If you don't like them, good for you.

No what really ticks me off is the quality of some of his pressings on SS... the last one just skips all over the place, seems like the bass are very high too. Does he do THIS on purpose? If you are going to put some shit out...make that shit hot.That's the point we are trying to make.Listen tio the Big Freak edit and the marsha Hunt edit on wax.If ya gonna boot up something,boot it right.No need to sell inferior product.Whether it be a track or a re-edit,make it worth the money.

If that's the case,I'll forgo SoundForge,pull out the old edit tape deck,do some sloppy edits and call them Ron's edits.....
;)

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by DJ76:
At least he puts his edits out. A number of people are dying to get Ron Hardy edits which were never put out. If you don't like them, good for you.

No what really ticks me off is the quality of some of his pressings on SS... the last one just skips all over the place, seems like the bass are very high too. Does he do THIS on purpose? If you don't like them, good for you.

erd

12-23-2003, 11:26 AM

The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd

eleeut

12-23-2003, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:

If that's the case,I'll forgo SoundForge,pull out the old edit tape deck,do some sloppy edits and call them Ron's edits.....
;) i'll call up gramaphone next month to see if they have those in stock.

[ December 23, 2003, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: eleeut ]

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If I took a shit on your dinner plate, that would be raw.

Would you still eat it?

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If that makes some shit sell,I have tons of old tape deck edits.I better call Larry Sherman up now,he'll jump on this in a heartbeat...

JMJ

12-23-2003, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If that makes some shit sell,I have tons of old tape deck edits.I better call Larry Sherman up now,he'll jump on this in a heartbeat... [/QUOTE]But YOU won't get paid......JMJ graemlins/biglaugha.gif

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If that makes some shit sell,I have tons of old tape deck edits.I better call Larry Sherman up now,he'll jump on this in a heartbeat... [/QUOTE]But YOU won't get paid......JMJ graemlins/biglaugha.gif [/QUOTE]I gotta do it like the pioneers did man.

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 11:41 AM

Anyway, props to Theo for doing his thing.

erd

12-23-2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If that makes some shit sell,I have tons of old tape deck edits.I better call Larry Sherman up now,he'll jump on this in a heartbeat... [/QUOTE]But YOU won't get paid......JMJ graemlins/biglaugha.gif [/QUOTE]And I won't eat it.
Surely ;) are some of Theo's edits sloppy and bad sounding and people are buying it, becasue of his nme on it, but hey, if you want Made In The USA "Never Let You Go" badly, you will grab it, although I prefer the Black Cock edit (I just say that to earn some respect from the nerds)...
And that Amp Fiddler edit is really nice.

Peace.

Gerd

DJ76

12-23-2003, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ76:
At least he puts his edits out. A number of people are dying to get Ron Hardy edits which were never put out. If you don't like them, good for you.

No what really ticks me off is the quality of some of his pressings on SS... the last one just skips all over the place, seems like the bass are very high too. Does he do THIS on purpose? If you are going to put some shit out...make that shit hot.That's the point we are trying to make.Listen tio the Big Freak edit and the marsha Hunt edit on wax.If ya gonna boot up something,boot it right.No need to sell inferior product.Whether it be a track or a re-edit,make it worth the money.

If that's the case,I'll forgo SoundForge,pull out the old edit tape deck,do some sloppy edits and call them Ron's edits.....
;) [/QUOTE]hey can you do that "I can't turn around" edit then? I'll consider paying :D

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 11:45 AM

I like the sugarhill edit. all the other edits get too artsy for the sake of it, and are horrific sound quality.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by erd:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by JMJ:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by erd:
The rawness, the rawness...

Peace.

Gerd If that makes some shit sell,I have tons of old tape deck edits.I better call Larry Sherman up now,he'll jump on this in a heartbeat... [/QUOTE]But YOU won't get paid......JMJ graemlins/biglaugha.gif [/QUOTE]And I won't eat it.
Surely ;) are some of Theo's edits sloppy and bad sounding and people are buying it, becasue of his nme on it, but hey, if you want Made In The USA "Never Let You Go" badly, you will grab it, although I prefer the Black Cock edit (I just say that to earn some respect from the nerds)...
And that Amp Fiddler edit is really nice.

Peace.

Gerd [/QUOTE]I actually like Dj Duke's edit of "Never let you go" much better but....
UGE1 - the Jill Scott edit, smokin!
UGE2- the switch track, smokin!
UGE3- The Motor city, smokin and Got A Match, not that bad at all
UGE4 - Minnie Ripperton edit.... smokin
UGE5 - You bring me vibes edit.. smokin.

But hey, you just might not like any of them, that's your business.

Alan B-O-N

12-23-2003, 11:56 AM

Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas...

TP is, himself, truely amazed about the fuzz about his UEs...
I think someone posted a link for an interview with TP several months ago in which they talked about "the UEs".

L.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by L.Housensual:
Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas...

L. exactement graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I like dark blue, you? ;)

Alan B-O-N

12-23-2003, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by L.Housensual:
Les gouts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas...

L. exactement graemlins/thumbsup.gif

I like dark blue, you? ;) [/QUOTE]Ooh, I like a lot of colours ;) and dark blue is one of em ;)

Peace
L

djklas

12-23-2003, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by DJ76:
I actually like Dj Duke's edit of "Never let you go" much better but....
What release is this on?

eleeut

12-23-2003, 12:15 PM

i think he's talking about the "remix" on TechDisco 5 or 6.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
i think he's talking about the "remix" on TechDisco 5 or 6. yup, Techdisco EP vol.6, red label. I like "da rain" on side B as well.

djklas

12-23-2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
i think he's talking about the "remix" on TechDisco 5 or 6. yup, Techdisco EP vol.6, red label. I like "da rain" on side B as well. [/QUOTE]Hunh, I don't think I have that one --- Duke, where you at?

eleeut

12-23-2003, 12:28 PM

O/T, but my favorite techdisco was #4, with "like this." still slammin'.

dj_wubwub

12-23-2003, 12:29 PM

Theo for me plays some nice stuff but his DJ style is really annoying. He always turns down the bass channel on the mixer and then turns down the midrange then lets the high just sizzle for a while before bringing the bass back in etc. This can sound effective if used sparingly but Theo just kills it for me. I can tell any theo mix because of this overused technique. Does this annoy anyone else?

DJ76

12-23-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by dj_wubwub:
Theo for me plays some nice stuff but his DJ style is really annoying. He always turns down the bass channel on the mixer and then turns down the midrange then lets the high just sizzle for a while before bringing the bass back in etc. This can sound effective if used sparingly but Theo just kills it for me. I can tell any theo mix because of this overused technique. Does this annoy anyone else? I know some people who don't like it, but I dig it, he usually juices the song real well, he doesn't play with the knobs just to play with the knobs. What annoys me is when he loses control of the volume and shit sounds distorted a la Claussell. Two great djs, both have the same problem though.

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dj_wubwub:
Theo for me plays some nice stuff but his DJ style is really annoying. He always turns down the bass channel on the mixer and then turns down the midrange then lets the high just sizzle for a while before bringing the bass back in etc. This can sound effective if used sparingly but Theo just kills it for me. I can tell any theo mix because of this overused technique. Does this annoy anyone else? I know some people who don't like it, but I dig it, he usually juices the song real well, he doesn't play with the knobs just to play with the knobs. What annoys me is when he loses control of the volume and shit sounds distorted a la Claussell. Two great djs, both have the same problem though. [/QUOTE]What about Timmy???You can't exclude out anyone.

I am over here laughin my ass off.Yeah,ya'll can voice your opinion,but damn,who said every thing has to be perfect?Yet,in the same breath ya speak on rawness...make up yur damn minds...

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:01 PM

This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread.

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread. since when did a thread on this page ever stay on topic?

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread. since when did a thread on this page ever stay on topic? [/QUOTE]I like to police my threads.

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread. since when did a thread on this page ever stay on topic? [/QUOTE]Exactly.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Jamie 3:26:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dj_wubwub:
Theo for me plays some nice stuff but his DJ style is really annoying. He always turns down the bass channel on the mixer and then turns down the midrange then lets the high just sizzle for a while before bringing the bass back in etc. This can sound effective if used sparingly but Theo just kills it for me. I can tell any theo mix because of this overused technique. Does this annoy anyone else? I know some people who don't like it, but I dig it, he usually juices the song real well, he doesn't play with the knobs just to play with the knobs. What annoys me is when he loses control of the volume and shit sounds distorted a la Claussell. Two great djs, both have the same problem though. [/QUOTE]What about Timmy???You can't exclude out anyone.

I am over here laughin my ass off.Yeah,ya'll can voice your opinion,but damn,who said every thing has to be perfect?Yet,in the same breath ya speak on rawness...make up yur damn minds... [/QUOTE]no one said it was perfect, but we never stop learning, and if one's comment may reach the dj's ear and he can adjust, hey he just might be closer to perfection. That's it. Djs have to be humble and listen to comments. They can do what they want with it, but if it's constructive... why not?

Deani

12-23-2003, 02:05 PM

I think this EQing technique is appreciated more in a live situation, it gets lost when recorded. I heard 3 chairs play in Sheffield, UK and it sounded amazing. Moodymann had his mask on, don't know what that was all about!

As for the Ugly edits, they were not meant for general release but his 'friends' bootlegged them. I think they work as dubs and I love the Dells cut up. Yes he is only cutting out a couple of bars and looping them but its only what half the Hip Hop producers are doing.

The production is ruff soundin, but so is the sound signature stuff and it is part of the attraction. Theo's records sell like hot cakes because they are different and he obviously goes to great lengths to source his sounds and create amazing music. So why shouldn't he dabble with a few edits in his spare time!

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread. since when did a thread on this page ever stay on topic? [/QUOTE]I like to police my threads. [/QUOTE]=)

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
This is not a bash Theo Parrish thread. since when did a thread on this page ever stay on topic? [/QUOTE]I like to police my threads. [/QUOTE]=) [/QUOTE]graemlins/OLA.gif

Let's turn this into a bash Timmy thread!

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:09 PM

better yet, let's turn this into a bash "that dirty hairy armenian" thread!!!!!

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:10 PM

You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76?

Bill Blake

12-23-2003, 02:13 PM

Those records are chinste

TAC

12-23-2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
Those records are chinste chinste = chintse

DJ76

12-23-2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? stop misquoting me bitch.

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]if there's one person that might actually like that mix, it's you.

gotta go pack my bags for my grand return to MTL.
lemme know how you liked that mix. It sucks.

Bill Blake

12-23-2003, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
Those records are chinste chinste = chintse [/QUOTE]YEa that one 'Chintse'

Ha ha ha I already fucked it up.

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I hope Theo sues him.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I hope Theo sues him. [/QUOTE]hahahaha.

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]if there's one person that might actually like that mix, it's you.

gotta go pack my bags for my grand return to MTL.
lemme know how you liked that mix. It sucks. [/QUOTE]i'm already on Pop, Dip, and Spin or Comin' Back. btw, i'm planning on visiting MTL in the next year.

DJ76

12-23-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ76:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]if there's one person that might actually like that mix, it's you.

gotta go pack my bags for my grand return to MTL.
lemme know how you liked that mix. It sucks. [/QUOTE]i'm already on Pop, Dip, and Spin or Comin' Back. btw, i'm planning on visiting MTL in the next year. [/QUOTE]cool. hit me with an email when you do, chances are you'd find me in Holland rather than Montreal though.
Out....

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eleeut:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
You mean good old "I'm sorry I didn't sound good tonight. Ask my friends, I usually sound better than this" 76? i just actually clicked on his 'dark patterns' mix on midi's site. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I hope Theo sues him. [/QUOTE]ahahahahaha hha aha a hah a

eleeut

12-23-2003, 02:21 PM

okay, it just went bad with that electric guitar cut.

Jamie 3:26

12-23-2003, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by eleeut:
okay, it just went bad with that electric guitar cut. Hahaahahahaahaha....

Bande-A-Part_NYC

12-23-2003, 02:52 PM

Needs more cowbell.

dj_wubwub

12-23-2003, 10:22 PM

I should add that I really dig Theo's sets apart from the Eq'ing thing.He plays some sweet music and I have seen him with moodyman a few times in Kyoto. I wasn't trying to bash him just add my opinion as a punter.

statuskuo

12-24-2003, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by TAC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
Those records are chinste chinste = chintse [/QUOTE]YEa that one 'Chintse'

Ha ha ha I already fucked it up. [/QUOTE]Racist!

Klaus B

12-24-2003, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Bande-A-Part_ NYC:
I like the sugarhill edit. all the other edits get too artsy for the sake of it, and are horrific sound quality. If you want horrific sound, pull out G-Strings "Motivation" Straight from tape onto vinyl... Ffffffffffffffsssssssssssshhhhhhhhh graemlins/rofl.gif

Amazing track though

Detroitbootybass

12-24-2003, 05:46 PM

In regards to Theo's mixing style:

Here is a 'not-so-secret' Detroit secret... Theo is a Ron Hardy disciple. He emulates the man every way that he can. Theo has most every Ron Hardy mix he can get his hands on. Hearing him live is much better than focusing on the overworked EQs in a recording. Same goes for Mr. Claussell...

...in the same breath, I would still rate those two in my top 10 DJs of the world.

[ December 24, 2003, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: Detroitbootybass ]

erd

12-25-2003, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by Detroitbootybass:
In regards to Theo's mixing style:

Here is a 'not-so-secret' Detroit secret... Theo is a Ron Hardy disciple. He emulates the man every way that he can. Theo has most every Ron Hardy mix he can get his hands on.
That is indeed no secret. At least, if you have ever heard a Ron Hardy mix here on DHP. Theo features a lot of tracks and songs, Hardy used to champion.
And yes, Theo is definitely one of the few extraordinary djs that travel this world. If he is on, he is on!

Peace.

Gerd