Now here is an interesting legal/philosophical issue to discuss

[Bill Blake]

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[ March 25, 2003, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Lennox ]

[Bill Blake]

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[Austin/Dallas]

interesting!!! I love to read....

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[kara]

"We were living in hell, and they were unwilling to acknowledge the problem," said Adamson.


oh no the horror, unwanted sexual images ...


this isnt so interesting

[Tenyu]

how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries

[Austin/Dallas]

That's like trying to control the weather.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by kara:
"We were living in hell, and they were unwilling to acknowledge the problem," said Adamson.


oh no the horror, unwanted sexual images ...


this isnt so interesting Actually its very interesting dumbass.

Libraries have long have been the center stage for issues involving censorship, usually regarding literature that some found to be an ‘ideological’ threat. From the use of the N word and the moral objection to Tom Sawyer and his adventures trying to ban Snow White and The Seven Dwarfs because the story has an unwed woman sleeping and cohabiting with seven ‘men’.

Both in the private and public spheres (an arguments for how acceptable this is can differ in both and the question comes into play just how private is private and public is public as far as both sectors go) have deemed that certain speech and images are unacceptable due to sexual connotations.

This can very from statements like ‘my you look lovely today’ to having a calendar with men in bathing suits in your office/cubical.

On the one hand you have the problem of the censorship of materials and on the other this notion of sexual harassment in the work place.

The first principles and stem for both of these ideologies are actually opposed. This is some deep shit yo.

[GROOVE VICTIM]

Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries This is true. In the state of Georgia, it was mandated about two years ago that every educational institute including libraries should have some type of Internet Filtering software installed to block pornographic and "inappropriate" websites. The problem is keeping your system up to date by keeping the "Black List" of sites up to date, very similar to updating your virus definitions for your anti-virus software.

Knowledge and training is the key and I believe that these Librarians may have gotten way over their heads with trying to maintain the system. I'm not sure who is responsible for administrating the network but they should have someone there to not only take care of the network, but watching the internet traffic too.

Peace

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries Uh moron:

The very idea of defining pornography is philosophical.

The issue of the degree of censorship that a federally funded institution can administer baring the implications of the 1st amendment and the new policies on what constitutes ‘sexual harassment’ ARE ALL PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUES!

And just about any legal stance is based on a philosophical one at root.

Dude please refrain from asking stupid questions in my topics. No wonder you got kicked out of Shelter. If I had the power Id kick you out of here.

[kara]

hahah at dumbass

[Tenyu]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries Uh moron:

The very idea of defining pornography is philosophical.

The issue of the degree of censorship that a federally funded institution can administer baring the implications of the 1st amendment and the new policies on what constitutes ‘sexual harassment’ ARE ALL PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUES!

And just about any legal stance is based on a philosophical one at root.

Dude please refrain from asking stupid questions in my topics. No wonder you got kicked out of Shelter. If I had the power Id kick you out of here. </font>[/QUOTE]yes, technically you are right, but common sense tells me that jenna jamison is porno, maybe she is a work of art to you though

[ March 25, 2003, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Tenyu ]

[djmarbll]

I thought Tenyu was a woman?
Anyway, Jamie's right, most laws have their basis in philosophical thought. Even the Golden Rule (which is where most moral laws come from) is based on the philosophical principle that you should do to others what you expect them to do to you. This is simple social human reciprocity.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries Your 'common sense' should tell you that simply because everyone is jumping off a bridge, is not suffice a reason for you to do the same.

All though at this point I highly reccomend that you do.

[Tenyu]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries Your 'common sense' should tell you that simply because everyone is jumping off a bridge, is not suffice a reason for you to do the same.

All though at this point I highly reccomend that you do. </font>[/QUOTE]the above translated into english:
Your 'common sense' should tell you that simply because everyone is refraining from jacking off to porno sites in public libraries, this does not mean you should have to as well.

at this point i highly recommend that you not relieve yourself at the library

[Wild i]

Jamie, what is your problem? You take a subject that could lead to some very thought-provoking and enlightening discussion and mar with with childish name-calling and such. Come on man, that's beneath you.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Tenyu:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tenyu:
how is this philosophical? pornography is regulated everywhere else in society so the same should apply to libraries Your 'common sense' should tell you that simply because everyone is jumping off a bridge, is not suffice a reason for you to do the same.

All though at this point I highly reccomend that you do. </font>[/QUOTE]the above translated into english:
Your 'common sense' should tell you that simply because everyone is refraining from jacking off to porno sites in public libraries, this does not mean you should have to as well.

at this point i highly recommend that you not relieve yourself at the library </font>[/QUOTE]No shit. Your common sense should tell you that the basis of both arguments and the point of my earlier post is that niether situation based on the same logic justifies any action since it is at root an argumentum adpopulum.

Dont try to play little logic games with me son.

[Bill Blake]

Originally posted by Wild i:
Jamie, what is your problem? You take a subject that could lead to some very thought-provoking and enlightening discussion and mar with with childish name-calling and such. Come on man, that's beneath you. Yes I had hoped it would be more along the Marbll Goove vein but some people have to play psuedo' intellectual.

[Tenyu]

Originally posted by Jamie Lennox:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Wild i:
Jamie, what is your problem? You take a subject that could lead to some very thought-provoking and enlightening discussion and mar with with childish name-calling and such. Come on man, that's beneath you. Yes I had hoped it would be more along the Marbll Goove vein but some people have to play psuedo' intellectual. </font>[/QUOTE]philosophy is for pussies, i'm sure you understand that quite well