Jordan Out

[mhd]

not coming back to the Wizards

[Bold Soul]

Jordan was with the Wizards? What, you mean that Chicago CBA franchise?

[mhd]

yep, that's it, the minor league squad

[fred da warrior]

Things didn't work out to well for ol' Mike, huh?

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by fred:
Things didn't work out to well for ol' Mike, huh? I think Mike was doing well. His knees just wanted to retire.

[Bold Soul]

Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm...

[JW]

I'm not surprised. Both the Wizards and Jordan are at a crossroad. I could see this unfold as I type. I believe that the game slowly transitions away from the older players (think Magic's ill-fated attempt at coming back to play and Coach). A number of players quit on Jordan in the end. Everybody's taking sides (Jordan and Collins against everybody else) pointing fingers at one another. Unseld taking a leave of absence. Now, it appears that Jordan's going into the front office, then returning to the court (both viewed as horrible moves) will be a part of this legacy (unfortunately). I believe Pollin is justified in his assesment of Jordan's management skills and experience, commitment to the front-office post as reason enough to severe ties.

[mhd]

true, mj did make some mistakes, his biggest mistake was alientating his teammates this year, but he also sold out the arena for two straight years, and made abe a whole lot of money. if anybody gets the benefit of the doubt its mj. but the wizards are losers, plain and simple, and they have a history of making bad choices. there is a reason they are losers and this decision confirms it. this was a horrible decision and there will be a backlash

[fred da warrior]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... Oh Shit. Now everytime I bust a nut, I need some f'in icy hot for my knee and my back.

Geez. :rolleyes:

[mhd]

knees or nuts, you make the call

[fred da warrior]

What do I do about the carpal tunnel?

[JW]

mhd wrote this was a horrible decision and there will be a backlash Horrible decision by Abe for bring Mike in or horrible decision by Mike for going into the front-office and coming out of retirement? As much as I admire Mike, I believe the "Mike" backlash has already begun. Like you said earlier, the Wizards have been consistently at their "losing best" since 1980. I believe that Mike's competitive nature will/is getting the best of him. Going to Charlotte may not be the best career move for him (at least not right now).

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by fred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... Oh Shit. Now everytime I bust a nut, I need some f'in icy hot for my knee and my back.

Geez. :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]It's just interesting to me how abundant sexual pleasure is a fringe-benefit of successful athletes - ingrained in their lifestyle from high school on - and knee and back troubles top the list of career limiting/ending injuries.

[Tony Cano]

i don't think MJ intended on coming back. there is rumor of him being interested in a new franchise (north carolina). he recently came out in the public and said he wanted to stay with the wizzards when he knew he was already out. now he looks like a victim in the eyes of washington fans. this is the way he wanted it. a master at playing the media. in a way, i hope he ends up coming home (bulls).

[MarkK]

Mark you are right. I am sick today. The Wizards now are the only organziation to ever fire MJ. How the **** do you do that.

Sure he was not the best GM before but he was learning. He was given the job without any experience, so what do you expect. MJ always got better at his game, so why not as a GM.

I am so sick of Abe Pollin and all the bad basketball he has brought to my home town.



Originally posted by mhd:
true, mj did make some mistakes, his biggest mistake was alientating his teammates this year, but he also sold out the arena for two straight years, and made abe a whole lot of money. if anybody gets the benefit of the doubt its mj. but the wizards are losers, plain and simple, and they have a history of making bad choices. there is a reason they are losers and this decision confirms it. this was a horrible decision and there will be a backlash

[Cheddar]

Thought he was gay.

Nah, foreal though he is going Charlotte.

[TAD]

Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... "On a more contemporary note, let's listen in on an interview with jazz musician Miles Davis which appeared in the April 1975 issue of Playboy magazine:

Davis: You can't come, then fight or play. You can't do it. When I get ready to come, I come. But I do not come and play.

Interviewer: Explain that in layman's terms.

Davis: Ask Muhammad Ali. If he comes, he can't fight two minutes. Shit, he couldn't even whip me.

Interviewer: Would you fight Muhammad Ali under those conditions, to prove your point?

Davis: You're goddam right I'd fight him. But he's got to promise to **** first. If he ain't going to ****, I ain't going to fight. You give up all your energy when you come. I mean, you give up all of it! So, if you're going to **** before a gig, how are you going to give something when it's time to hit?

What neither Davis nor Ali realize is that sexual intercourse without ejaculation prior to a fight or gig would improve their performances even more than if they abstained altogether."


web page (http://www.hps-online.com/tsy1.htm)


"An ejaculation should leave a man feeling as light and refreshed as a woman feels after orgasm-not exhausted, empty and uninterested in further sex."

web page (http://www.hps-online.com/tsy4.htm)

[JMJ]

MJ is friends with Charlotte owner Robert Johnson. He'll end up with a piece of that franchise. Book it.....JMJ

[mhd]

when bob got charlotte he hired ed tapscott a black lawyer/coach/exec that gave mj some leverage, or so he thought. at the end of the season the thinking was that mj would use that leverage for two things: one to not only get full control of basketball decisions but also two to get a larger ownership share.

problem was abe was pissed for two things, one mj was mad at susan o'malley for using mike's name for a bogus promotion. the deal was if you buy ten tickets for Next season you could get a free ticket to mike's next game. the other thing abe didn't like was mj commuting from chicago his first year as exec.

notice how wes is on leave of absence, he is prolly trying to distance himself from this bs. after all, the first thing mj did when he came on board was to increase wes salary from 400k to one million

[Bold Soul]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... "On a more contemporary note, let's listen in on an interview with jazz musician Miles Davis which appeared in the April 1975 issue of Playboy magazine:

Davis: You can't come, then fight or play. You can't do it. When I get ready to come, I come. But I do not come and play.

Interviewer: Explain that in layman's terms.

Davis: Ask Muhammad Ali. If he comes, he can't fight two minutes. Shit, he couldn't even whip me.

Interviewer: Would you fight Muhammad Ali under those conditions, to prove your point?

Davis: You're goddam right I'd fight him. But he's got to promise to **** first. If he ain't going to ****, I ain't going to fight. You give up all your energy when you come. I mean, you give up all of it! So, if you're going to **** before a gig, how are you going to give something when it's time to hit?

What neither Davis nor Ali realize is that sexual intercourse without ejaculation prior to a fight or gig would improve their performances even more than if they abstained altogether."


web page (http://www.hps-online.com/tsy1.htm)


"An ejaculation should leave a man feeling as light and refreshed as a woman feels after orgasm-not exhausted, empty and uninterested in further sex."

web page (http://www.hps-online.com/tsy4.htm) </font>[/QUOTE]Powerful stuff! Thanks for the posts!

[Fletch]

Buy some more ping pong balls, draft Carmello, and f**k Mike.

Seriously, Mike needs to totally step away from the game (court, front office, etc). This generation doesn't agree with him. Most legends have a hard time in leadership positions because they expect everyone to do it the way they did. But Mike is Mike. No one in the history of the game can do it the way he did, let alone 12. Ask Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson about whether folk can ball like them (they learned the hard way that it can't be done!).

That's why Byron Scott and Pat Riley and Phil Jackson, on the other hand (above average playes, but not legend) were successful coaches as opposed to Magic, West and Reed. Peace.

[mhd]

good point, i guess the exception is bird because he had a bunch of veterans, and some were his peers

[ncho]

from the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32841-2003May8.html):
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Air Jordan: Cleared for Takeoff, but Where to Land?

Now that his divorce from Abe Pollin and the Wizards is final, Michael Jordan has some time on his hands. As he ponders his next move, the Style section would like to offer some career guidance.

• Leverage recent experience working for arrogant, obstinate team owner: See if Dan Snyder is hiring.

• Start new airline -- Air Jordan, of course -- that flies only where it wants to, when it wants to, and mostly to Chicago.

• President, Baseball Operations, Washington Baseball Club (revenge is sweet).

• Buy naming rights to MCI Center. Rename it "The Jordanaire." Or maybe "Abe's House of Losers."

• Take over management of another outfit that hasn't had a winning season in years: the Democratic Party.

• Interim president, Iraq.

• Autograph self. Put up for auction on eBay.

• Spend days brooding, spend nights sulking. When this gets old, switch.

• Lend name to a line of overhyped, overpriced sneakers made by exploited laborers in Third World countries (Oh, wait. Never mind.)

• Spokesman for Claritin (for treating allergies to Pollin).

• Build a time machine and travel back to 1996, when you really ruled.

• Take GM job with Bob Johnson's new franchise in Charlotte. When team plays Wizards, come out of retirement, drop 73 points. Just for spite.
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peace,
-g-

[Fletch]

When Wes Unseld takes a leave of absence after 30 dedicated years with the company (if you want to call the Washington Bullets/Wizards a company), then you know Mike had to go.

I hope Bob Johnson doesn't find out the hard way the Mike's a horrible manager. Peace.

[mhd]

Originally posted by einnod23:
When Wes Unseld takes a leave of absence after 30 dedicated years with the company (if you want to call the Washington Bullets/Wizards a company), then you know Mike had to go.

I hope Bob Johnson doesn't find out the hard way the Mike's a horrible manager. Peace. i don't get what you mean about wes

[Leslie]

Originally posted by einnod23:
When Wes Unseld takes a leave of absence after 30 dedicated years with the company (if you want to call the Washington Bullets/Wizards a company), then you know Mike had to go.

I hope Bob Johnson doesn't find out the hard way the Mike's a horrible manager. Peace. Just say no to Jordan

Charlotte owner should not turn franchise over to MJ
Posted: Friday May 09, 2003 1:26 PM


Last week Sports Illustrated named Robert L. Johnson, the owner of the NBA's Charlotte expansion franchise (Bob, pleeeese pick a name so we can all stop writing that phrase!), as the most influential minority in the sports industry. Many readers interpreted the acknowledgement as a recognition of Johnson's "power" as the first African-American member of the most exclusive club in sports -- majority franchise owners. Power is often interpreted as the ability to get things done, to exert one's own will and desires on a situation. But in my view, power often is best demonstrated when one resists the temptation to do what one can do and instead does what one should do.

Johnson has the opportunity to show some real muscle by not doing something he seems increasingly inclined and eager to do: He should not hire Michael Jordan.

From the moment Jordan was unceremoniously fired by Washington Wizards owners Abe Pollin and Ted Leonsis on Tuesday after a rocky tenure as the team's president of basketball operations/pile-driving teammate, Johnson sounded absolutely giddy over the prospect of aligning his new franchise with basketball's greatest player ever. He said that Jordan, a longtime friend, could have the same title he held in Washington with Charlotte, if Jordan wanted it. Johnson even said he'd entertain the notion of Jordan buying a stake in the team. Anything less, Johnson said, would be "like having the greatest chef in the world and telling him he's not allowed in the kitchen."

Not exactly. Jordan was dumped, it appears, precisely for failing to find the right ingredients, and for creating a dish that, well, wouldn't exactly stir the judges on Iron Chef.

Jordan's personnel moves, through the draft and free agency, were, at best, mediocre. And then he apparently alienated Wizards players with intimidating tactics and demonstrated an immense intolerance for anything less than perfection.

On the flip side, Jordan straight up bailed Pollin out financially. According to league sources, the Wizards lost about $40 million in the year prior to Jordan's return to the court. Once in uniform, Jordan prompted a string of sellouts and enhanced the sale of luxury suites. As a player, he meant about $30 million annually to the Wizards -- meaning Pollin lost only $10 million during Jordan's first season on the court and earned a profit of about $20 million this season.

Moreover, Jordan played for a measly $1 million last season (which he donated to charity) and $1.5 million this season, which he kept. The league's average player salary exceeds $4 million.

For all of that, Jordan was booted. Treated like, well, an employee.

As he drove away from the MCI Center in Washington on Tuesday following his dismissal, with the top down on his shiny Mercedes convertible, you had the feeling that Jordan was headed due south. Only figuratively, of course. Because he wouldn't have to drive far to meet with Johnson, whose offices are also in D.C.

As of Friday, Johnson says he has not scheduled a meeting with Jordan. But when it happens (and it will), the media mogul should pull out a cigar, hand it to Michael and say, "Let's stay friends, and not work together."

Why?

Simple: Michael's not ready. Some of the very attributes that made him a great player -- boundless confidence, an intolerance for imperfection and an absolute distaste for losing -- hamper him as an executive. "In his mind, Michael is God," offered a longtime NBA observer who knows Jordan well. "He does not acknowledge mistakes. Hopefully [getting fired] will help him realize that he is human."

This observer also said Jordan lacks an attribute critical to any successful manager: compassion. "He's a terrific individual but his compassion is at the bottom of the scale," he said. "In his whole basketball life he will compare players to himself. He can't handle losing. When he loses, everyone around him will suffer."

Think about it: What do expansion franchises do more than anything? Lose. A lot. If Jordan does not find a way to seek the positives from defeat, then the experience will defeat him once again.

One great player who successfully made the transition from the court to the front office notes that the greatest challenge indeed is "change."

"You cannot expect everyone to play at the level you played," says Jerry West, president of the Memphis Grizzlies and architect of the Lakers dynasty. "There can be a frustration when you get young kids and want them to play like veterans. I've had more patience with younger players than older, particularly as an executive. I try to be more encouraging and give them a reason to go to practice every day. If young kids start to feel beaten down, maybe they don't play for a while."

Maybe Jordan has learned this. My feeling is that he hasn't. Not yet. And I'm not sure if even Robert Johnson, a billionaire, can afford to have Jordan learn on his dime.

Roy S. Johnson is an assistant managing editor for Sports Illustrated. His "Pass the Word" column appears on SI.com every Friday. Catch Johnson on CNN Headline news every Thursday at 3:40 p.m. ET.

[Fletch]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
When Wes Unseld takes a leave of absence after 30 dedicated years with the company (if you want to call the Washington Bullets/Wizards a company), then you know Mike had to go.

I hope Bob Johnson doesn't find out the hard way the Mike's a horrible manager. Peace. i don't get what you mean about wes </font>[/QUOTE]Wes is the most celebrated employee in the history of the franchise. Abe has his one and only championship because of him. When you think of the Bullets, you think of the chubby, solid as a rock number 41 with the mean afro. Say what you want about Abe and the Bullets/Wizards, but one thing Abe is about is loyalty. And he's not about to chuck the greatest player he's ever employed for an over the hill legend/now head case with horrible management skills. He won't do that even for Mike. Oh, yeah, As Mike is retired, so do the consecutive sellouts at MCI. Abe's decision was easy.

Sorry, Chicago/Wiz heads, but I got to call Mike for what he's done to that team. Peace.

[mhd]

Originally posted by einnod23:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by einnod23:
When Wes Unseld takes a leave of absence after 30 dedicated years with the company (if you want to call the Washington Bullets/Wizards a company), then you know Mike had to go.

I hope Bob Johnson doesn't find out the hard way the Mike's a horrible manager. Peace. i don't get what you mean about wes </font>[/QUOTE]Wes is the most celebrated employee in the history of the franchise. Abe has his one and only championship because of him. When you think of the Bullets, you think of the chubby, solid as a rock number 41 with the mean afro. Say what you want about Abe and the Bullets/Wizards, but one thing Abe is about is loyalty. And he's not about to chuck the greatest player he's ever employed for an over the hill legend/now head case with horrible management skills. He won't do that even for Mike. Oh, yeah, As Mike is retired, so do the consecutive sellouts at MCI. Abe's decision was easy.

Sorry, Chicago/Wiz heads, but I got to call Mike for what he's done to that team. Peace. </font>[/QUOTE]i don't see how you get that it was a wes vs. mike equation. that was not the dynamic at all. one of mike's first decisions was to increase wes's salary from 400k to a million. further, wes leave of absence, imo, was his way of distancing himself from this horrible decision. if anything, wes was in mike's corner, that's why he backed off, because he did not want to appear to abe to have divided loyalty.

but let's get to the merits, if abe is so loyal, why does he fire mike so quickly? why does he lie about ted leonsis being part of the decision? mj has been here for 31/2 years but wes and abe have been together for 36 years, one ring, and the last time they won a playoff series was 1982! if abe is so loyal why not keep your word and do the deal that you promised to do and is in your best interest to do. there is a huge backlash in this community about this bs. abe has basically ruined any goodwill that he had here, and he had a lot.

as for mike being a headcase, he was doing here the same things that got him six rings, 2 olympic golds, one ncaa championship, hall of fame, mvps, etc. and 82 consecutive sellouts

[Fletch]

Originally posted by mhd:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />i don't see how you get that it was a wes vs. mike equation. that was not the dynamic at all. one of mike's first decisions was to increase wes's salary from 400k to a million. further, wes leave of absence, imo, was his way of distancing himself from this horrible decision. if anything, wes was in mike's corner, that's why he backed off, because he did not want to appear to abe to have divided loyalty.

but let's get to the merits, if abe is so loyal, why does he fire mike so quickly? why does he lie about ted leonsis being part of the decision? mj has been here for 31/2 years but wes and abe have been together for 36 years, one ring, and the last time they won a playoff series was 1982! if abe is so loyal why not keep your word and do the deal that you promised to do and is in your best interest to do. there is a huge backlash in this community about this bs. abe has basically ruined any goodwill that he had here, and he had a lot.

as for mike being a headcase, he was doing here the same things that got him six rings, 2 olympic golds, one ncaa championship, hall of fame, mvps, etc. and 82 consecutive sellouts [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Good points, bro. But let's face it. This bunch was put together by Mike, himself. He complains about this bunch in public (a no, no!). The same team (includes the lazy ass Kwame Brown, who he drafted) rebelled against him. When the Wizards got blown out in the finale the way they did, I new Mike was gone, even as an upstairs guy.

And let's call another thing--Mike's a diva!!!! He may have been responsible for blackballing Craig Hodges (I don't care if Craig came to the White House with the Bulls dressed in a dashiki. that was still wrong he didn't get any more NBA work).

Also, I still remember the ban of the NY media (1993 Conference Finals v. NY Knicks). Mike was shootin' Airballs in the Garden (games 1 and 2), then jumped on his limo to Atlantic City, and Dave Anderson of the Times wrightfully called his ass out for it. That ban was straight up anti-New York, and I'll never forget that. When the Bulls advanced to the Title game, Jordan lifted it. Don't tell me that ban wasn't anti-New York.

Michael Jordan. Greatest of all time, but a true diva. Peace.

[Mike Barnes]

Say Leslie, Good lookin in reference to posting the article, I wrote a piece on this site about why i felt Magic Johnson would be the best candidate for the Position of President of Basketball Operations for the Franchise in North Carolina, And i will always feel that Magic(Magic Johnson)has a way better feel for talent and how to run a team than Michael Jordan, All the years that Magic has been down with the Lakers working with Jerry West(Well not exactly working with Jerry West on a daily basis), Magic had to learn at least a little bit from my man Jerry West, Plus, If Magic knows anything else in life, That one thing is BASKETBALL and evaluating talent, I have the utmost respect for Magic's Basketball IQ(Knowledge of the game on all levels), Were as the move that Bob Johnson sounds like he wants to make is more of a I'll look out for my man(Michael Jordan), And put him down because we go back type thing, Also, Putting Michael Jordan down is a very good publicity move, Since Michael Jordan comes from and Played at the University of North Carolina(To create excitement and bring the fans to the games,) But the horrors of a move from a cat(Michael Jordan), Who once he had Juice(President Of Basketball Operations with the Washington Bullets 2 years ago)he drafted a cat(Kwame Brown)who was not even considered the best player coming out of High School 2 years ago in Kwame Brown(Dujaun Wagner was the Best Player coming in High School 2 years ago on the low), And Kwame Brown did not rock hard in the High School summer camps(Five Star,Adidas,Nike Basketball camps), Nor did Kwame Brown rock in the Mcdonalds game(I could not remember his name when i watched that game 2 years ago), But Michael Jordan still drafted my man(Kwame Brown), I'll say this, If your going to draft a cat on Potential, Then the cat that you draft better be NICE, Or you should get cancelled(LOL), I cannot speak for Magic(Magic Johnson), But, I could not see Magic drafting someone coming out of High School that's not that nice(Kwame Brown could be alright, But right about now, He ain't shit), I could not see to many people in positions of authority wasting there time drafting him, and a number one pick at that), I feel Magic would be a very good fit for the position of President of Basketball Operations with the North Carolina Franchise, And would be a very good addition to the front office personnel working with Ed Tapscott(Who i've heard some good things about with his days with the New York Knicks, I think he used to go to George Washington University in Washington DC), Another very strong addition to the North Carolina Franchise front Office would be Kareem(Kareem Abdul Jabbar), Who has been getting jerked hard by alot of NBA Front Office cats who look at him as being a serious threat to there secured positions(On the Low). Kareems basketball mind(Crazy Knowledge of the game) belongs in the League(NBA)RIGHT NOW, Cats need to stop acting like suckers and put this brother down(And i don't mean as a scout)Kareem has to much to offer any team in the League, He has all the intangibles needed to be successful for years in a front Office position, If givin the chance, I will give the Administrators at Columbia University alot of credit and respect for bringing in Kareem for an interview in reference to the Head Coaching Position there at Columbia(Bob Hurley from Duke also interviewed for the position a few weeks ago), But Kareem belongs in the League(NBA)with all the Basketball knowledge he has(Not Being a Basketball Analyst or Coaching a High School Team on an Indian reservation like he did a few years back), I feel a front Office of Magic,Ed Tapscott, and Kareem Making the Basketball decisions and structuring that franchise in North Carolina will of course take some time, But, I can definitely see things going very well once everything falls into place. And as for selecting a coach for the North Carolina Team in 2004/2005 season, Well my man Paul Silas(recently cancelled from the New Orleans Team even though he had to deal with mad injuries to Jamal Mashburn and Baron Davis, And no support from Management when it comes to getting cats who fit into what Paul Silas wanted to do with the team)is available right now(LOL), Paul Silas is a good coach who has the patience(Which is very important dealing with young cats/and cats of today),knowledge of the game, and the skill to adjust player wise that is needed to come off in the league(And he will give young cats a chance to play), But who knows, Maybe Michael Jordan will work out with the North Carolina Franchise, Charlotte is a very nice city, And i feel the people in that area will definitely welcome a Basketball team with Notable cats in place in the front Office.
Later
Mike Barnes

[Mike Barnes]

Say Einnod23, I have to challenge your comment,'Wes is the most celebrated employee in the history of the franchise. Abe has his one and only championship because of him. When you think of the Bullets, you think of the chubby, solid as a rock number 41 with the mean afro', Response hard money, To me, The Washington Bullets have to truely thank Elvin Hayes and Bob Dandridge for there championship in 1978 my man, Those were the cats who were bringing it(Rocking hard)in that championship series against The Seattle Supersonics, Ask Johnny Johnson(Former Seattle Supersonic forward who had to check Bob Dandridge)about Bob Dandridge, or Ask Jack Sikma(Former Seattle Supersonic Forward who had to check Elvin Hayes)about Elvin Hayes(Especially in game 7), Also, The Washington Bullets could give a very big thank you to Dennis Johnson for the way he hid from the ball(Fessed hard/Played scared)in game 7 in 1978, Money(Dennis Johnson) went 0 for 14, Homes(Dennis Johnson), Was so sacred in that whole series, That even Dick Motta(Washington Bullets coach)was ****ing with him,, And talked him(Dennis Johnson)out of his game hard(LOL), Dennis Johnson threw a pass to Gus Williams(Damn was this cat NICE)on one play in game 7, and Dick Motta said off(LOL), To say a cats pass is off is the biggest disrespect you can ever have, besides getting shook to the floor, Wes Unseld had alot of help back then in 1978, Also, I have to mention another cat who did much work in that series for the Washington Bullets, and the cats name is Charles Johnson(CJ)formely of the Golden State Warriors back in 1975(The cat won a championship with Golden State that same year). When I think of the Washington Bullets, I think of Elvin Hayes,Bob Dandridge,and Wes Unseld,Phil Chenier,Kevin Porter,Nick Witherspoon, etc.
Later
Mike Barnes

[Fletch]

Originally posted by Mike Barnes:
Say Einnod23, I have to challenge your comment,'Wes is the most celebrated employee in the history of the franchise. Abe has his one and only championship because of him. When you think of the Bullets, you think of the chubby, solid as a rock number 41 with the mean afro', Response hard money, To me, The Washington Bullets have to truely thank Elvin Hayes and Bob Dandridge for there championship in 1978 my man, Those were the cats who were bringing it(Rocking hard)in that championship series against The Seattle Supersonics, Ask Johnny Johnson(Former Seattle Supersonic forward who had to check Bob Dandridge)about Bob Dandridge, or Ask Jack Sikma(Former Seattle Supersonic Forward who had to check Elvin Hayes)about Elvin Hayes(Especially in game 7), Also, The Washington Bullets could give a very big thank you to Dennis Johnson for the way he hid from the ball(Fessed hard/Played scared)in game 7 in 1978, Money(Dennis Johnson) went 0 for 14, Homes(Dennis Johnson), Was so sacred in that whole series, That even Dick Motta(Washington Bullets coach)was ****ing with him,, And talked him(Dennis Johnson)out of his game hard(LOL), Dennis Johnson threw a pass to Gus Williams(Damn was this cat NICE)on one play in game 7, and Dick Motta said off(LOL), To say a cats pass is off is the biggest disrespect you can ever have, besides getting shook to the floor, Wes Unseld had alot of help back then in 1978, Also, I have to mention another cat who did much work in that series for the Washington Bullets, and the cats name is Charles Johnson(CJ)formely of the Golden State Warriors back in 1975(The cat won a championship with Golden State that same year). When I think of the Washington Bullets, I think of Elvin Hayes,Bob Dandridge,and Wes Unseld,Phil Chenier,Kevin Porter,Nick Witherspoon, etc.
Later
Mike Barnes Mike, Yes, I know about Big E and Bobby D, and that Mike Barnes 101 education is at it again. Thanks, bro. Peace.
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[djmarbll]

Originally posted by fred:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... Oh Shit. Now everytime I bust a nut, I need some f'in icy hot for my knee and my back.

Geez. :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly. This is the worst news I've heard in my life. Now I'm depressed, my girlfriend is out oout of town. What do I do? :(

[djmarbll]

Originally posted by tcano:
i don't think MJ intended on coming back. there is rumor of him being interested in a new franchise (north carolina). he recently came out in the public and said he wanted to stay with the wizzards when he knew he was already out. now he looks like a victim in the eyes of washington fans. this is the way he wanted it. a master at playing the media. in a way, i hope he ends up coming home (bulls). This move will be tough with John Paxson as the GM and Jerry "I'm gonna regret paying you $30 million" Reinsdorf still owning the team.

[djmarbll]

Originally posted by Cosmic_Twin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bold Soul:
Interestingly enough, most athletes develop knee and back problems throughout their careers.

Did you know that the prostate channel in the human body, the one that governs ejaculatory functions in males, has a direct link to the knees and kidneys.

Meaning - too much ejaculation and you destroy the blood creation function of the kidneys. Too much ejaculation and you disturb the flow of energy to joints and tendons in the knees.

Hmmm... "On a more contemporary note, let's listen in on an interview with jazz musician Miles Davis which appeared in the April 1975 issue of Playboy magazine:

Davis: You can't come, then fight or play. You can't do it. When I get ready to come, I come. But I do not come and play.

Interviewer: Explain that in layman's terms.

Davis: Ask Muhammad Ali. If he comes, he can't fight two minutes. Shit, he couldn't even whip me.

Interviewer: Would you fight Muhammad Ali under those conditions, to prove your point?

Davis: You're goddam right I'd fight him. But he's got to promise to **** first. If he ain't going to ****, I ain't going to fight. You give up all your energy when you come. I mean, you give up all of it! So, if you're going to **** before a gig, how are you going to give something when it's time to hit?

What neither Davis nor Ali realize is that sexual intercourse without ejaculation prior to a fight or gig would improve their performances even more than if they abstained altogether."

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web page (http://www.hps-online.com/tsy4.htm) </font>[/QUOTE]Another reason why I love Miles Davis!!!

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Originally posted by mhd:
when bob got charlotte he hired ed tapscott a black lawyer/coach/exec that gave mj some leverage, or so he thought. at the end of the season the thinking was that mj would use that leverage for two things: one to not only get full control of basketball decisions but also two to get a larger ownership share.

problem was abe was pissed for two things, one mj was mad at susan o'malley for using mike's name for a bogus promotion. the deal was if you buy ten tickets for Next season you could get a free ticket to mike's next game. the other thing abe didn't like was mj commuting from chicago his first year as exec.

notice how wes is on leave of absence, he is prolly trying to distance himself from this bs. after all, the first thing mj did when he came on board was to increase wes salary from 400k to one million Wow!!! Great post. I read about Jordan's conflicts with Susan O'Malley, but I didn't know Jordan incresed Wes Unseld's salary. I'm searching for a Wes Unseld Bullets jersey now. Maybe I'll buy the one that got Lebron James in trouble. :D