IT'S HITTING THE FAN FOR BUSH

[mdpm99]

Greetings:


No wonder Bush sent his wife to Europe last month. He's not exactly the toast of Australia, but rather being made toast of.

Apparently the Australians have no problem seeing through the BS, while right here in America too many people have rose colored glasses on.

This miserable excuse for the most powerful man in the world continues to speak the lies that allowed him to invade Iraq and even though his administration is slowly deserting the ship, (Rumsfeld had some interesting observations and admittance's yesterday)
he goes on his inarticulate way creating new dissension around the world.

The economy even though the Republicans are playing with numbers still stinks and 3 million people are without jobs or a possibility of one since Bush took over.

Bush failed in his efforts to persuade leaders of both Japan and China to stop artificially valuing their currencies against the dollar. That makes their products cheaper to American consumers, but makes it harder for U.S. manufacturers to compete, contributing to the steady erosion of U.S. jobs.

With only one year to go, Bush cannot get this country whipped into shape to hope for a second term. He outlay alone for the biggest mistake this country ever made, the war in Iraq will double next year and the talk of a draft will start. The violence in Iraq is escalating daily and the USA will have to combat it, without much help. The rest of the world would not lift a pinkie to help this arrogant and inept President.

America is in trouble and anyone with even half a brain can see the handwriting on the wall.

Ps.

Last night on the Larry King Live Show, Barbara Bush described her selected President son as, wonderful, courageous and brilliant. Now, isn't that pushing motherhood a little??? LOL

d.

[ChiJAM]

Australia took all kinds of unprecedented measures for his visit because the protesters were out to be heard. Of course, the US media ignored this heated response to Dubya's arrival.

There are rumblings of trade restrictions for Chinese goods--if you won't make your goods more expensive, you just won't be able to sell to us.

As for the economy, this "jobless recovery" cracks me up. Just because you call it a "recovery", doesn't make it so.

ChiJAM

[Cheddar]

On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD.

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. What!

Pray tell!!!

d

Ps.

I wonder if wonderful BB had anything to do with it:

......I seen part of an interview with her last night on MSNBC. She was talking about her visits with her grandchildren in one part. She said when they leave almost full, or half full cans of opened soft drinks, she would like to CHOKE them. Nice lady.

[gabriel]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
This miserable excuse for the most powerful man in the world continues to speak the lies that allowed him to invade Iraq and even though his administration is slowly deserting the ship, (Rumsfeld had some interesting observations and admittance's yesterday) can you say what this means? little time to process news.

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. What!

Pray tell!!!

d

Ps.

I wonder if wonderful BB had anything to do with it:

......I seen part of an interview with her last night on MSNBC. She was talking about her visits with her grandchildren in one part. She said when they leave almost full, or half full cans of opened soft drinks, she would like to CHOKE them. Nice lady. </font>[/QUOTE]First article I have found (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-me-marine21oct21235636,0,1843049.story?coll=la-iraq-complete)

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by gabrielloveshouse:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
This miserable excuse for the most powerful man in the world continues to speak the lies that allowed him to invade Iraq and even though his administration is slowly deserting the ship, (Rumsfeld had some interesting observations and admittance's yesterday) can you say what this means? little time to process news. </font>[/QUOTE]Check out "Rummny changes his tune" thread (yesterday) to see if that will guide you to your answer.

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d

[mdpm99]

Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. What!

Pray tell!!!

d

Ps.

I wonder if wonderful BB had anything to do with it:

......I seen part of an interview with her last night on MSNBC. She was talking about her visits with her grandchildren in one part. She said when they leave almost full, or half full cans of opened soft drinks, she would like to CHOKE them. Nice lady. </font>[/QUOTE]First article I have found (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-me-marine21oct21235636,0,1843049.story?coll=la-iraq-complete) </font>[/QUOTE]"The 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit moved on to the hot spot of Nasiriyah, where on April 1 it created a diversion while other forces rescued Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch, Hilson said."

:eek:

d

[andrea]

Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. Sorry to seem dense, but can you explain the connection with the soldier killed in Long Beach...please. Thank you.

andrea

[Hk]

The central issue of the entire matter is that "the most powerful man in the world" (a statement that I dont agree with but hey!) got in that position by deception, now what could he being doing to the world, I wonder?

The future of America
Responsibility and Education for the American mass are key tenents that will have to be worked out in order for things to get better, I'd imagine.

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by andrea:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. Sorry to seem dense, but can you explain the connection with the soldier killed in Long Beach...please. Thank you.

andrea </font>[/QUOTE]Well here is another article (http://www.greenvilleonline.com/news/2003/07/07/200307079664.htm) I found (have read) where a member of the Rescue party dies at home in a bizzare fashion. This sets off flags because the details surrounding the "Saving Private Lynch" mission are hushed as much as other mysteries (ie. WTC & WMD). So all I am adding to the thread about Bush is this incident which is minimally "fishy" and to a larger scale "SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT".

[mdpm99]

"Speer was a member of a unit that helped rescue Jessica Lynch, the Army private captured by Iraqis near Nasiriyah, said Capt. Shawn Turner, a corps spokesman. Details of the unit's role weren't available, he said."

Greetings 1343

.......maybe you are on to something.

d

[martino]

Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrea:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. Sorry to seem dense, but can you explain the connection with the soldier killed in Long Beach...please. Thank you.

andrea </font>[/QUOTE]Well here is another article (http://www.greenvilleonline.com/news/2003/07/07/200307079664.htm) I found (have read) where a member of the Rescue party dies at home in a bizzare fashion. This sets off flags because the details surrounding the "Saving Private Lynch" mission are hushed as much as other mysteries (ie. WTC & WMD). So all I am adding to the thread about Bush is this incident which is minimally "fishy" and to a larger scale "SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT". </font>[/QUOTE]In otherwords: According to the iraqis, there was no great rescue, as she was in an iraqi hospital, and the iraqi's tried to return her to US troops only to be fired upon. So, this rescue was staged/grossly exaggerated to create a nice story for people back home. (They were never fired upon when they went to save her for example). And the conspiracy comes in to play when a number of troops that "saved" her, start not being able to tell the story of that rescue.

[MarkK]

Stay Tuned!

Saving Jessica Lynch (http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Saving_Jessica_Lynch/)

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by martino:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrea:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. Sorry to seem dense, but can you explain the connection with the soldier killed in Long Beach...please. Thank you.

andrea </font>[/QUOTE]Well here is another article (http://www.greenvilleonline.com/news/2003/07/07/200307079664.htm) I found (have read) where a member of the Rescue party dies at home in a bizzare fashion. This sets off flags because the details surrounding the "Saving Private Lynch" mission are hushed as much as other mysteries (ie. WTC & WMD). So all I am adding to the thread about Bush is this incident which is minimally "fishy" and to a larger scale "SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT". </font>[/QUOTE]In otherwords: According to the iraqis, there was no great rescue, as she was in an iraqi hospital, and the iraqi's tried to return her to US troops only to be fired upon. So, this rescue was staged/grossly exaggerated to create a nice story for people back home. (They were never fired upon when they went to save her for example). And the conspiracy comes in to play when a number of troops that "saved" her, start not being able to tell the story of that rescue. </font>[/QUOTE]Possibly.
That story will never get told...and she has/had amnesia about the whole damn thin. For all she knows it could have been Koreans or Africans helping her or keeping her captive.

[mdpm99]

Lynchgate??

I remember the whole thing with Watergate. Started with a piece of duck tape. What a ride that was!

nixon/bu$h
agnew/cheney

Oh what a web we weave when we practice to deceive.

d

Ps.

re: Rumsfeld's Memo

Donald Rumsfeld is starting to sound like Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara during the Vietnam war.

[ October 23, 2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: david mancuso ]

[mdpm99]

Came across this:

"OUR LAND"

I am of Indian and Black decent. I reside in NYC, I have friends that are from many different ethnic groups and we support each other. This makes us all stronger. We agree and disagree, be we find a middle ground that is beneficial to all of us. The same was true when I served in Vietnam. Never have I seen my country so divided, and why? I have been watching various congressional hearings and I am appalled at the partisanship displayed by our so called leaders. There is no separation of powers as called for by the US Constitution and the work of the people is not getting done. What has our America become? Poverty is on the rise, the cost of college in state schools has risen 38%, our children are not being properly educated, churches are harboring pedophiles, police and firemen are being laid off, gasoline in my area cost $2.19 a gallon, the attorney general is interested more in arresting Americans than dealing with illegal aliens, we have no border control, prescription medicines are not affordable, our elderly are in need, yet no one pays attention or cares. I have also noted that reports of our Military killed or wounded in action have substantially declined, even after General Sanchez stated that they were being attacked 35 times a day, these are "OUR CHILDREN" and we need to know what is happening, and no one in government can tell me that the rebuilding of Iraq is more important news than the condition of our Military. Ninety percent of the coalition forces are paid with our tax dollars, yet our military is deprived of the equipment they need to survive. We have to give them frequent flier miles so they can travel home when they receive R&R, parents are sending them dollar bills so they can call home at the cost $1.00 a minute. Haliburton is price gouging and reaps . 30 cent on every tax dollar sent to Iraq for reconstruction, the vice president gets $13000.00 a month from Haliburton and for what? If we don't unite as a "PEOPLE" and demand that our elected officials be accountable, "WE WILL SURELY LOSE OUR AMERICA" think about it. Make all in government know that "WE THE PEOPLE" are their employers and "OUR GREAT COUNTRY ALSO HAS NEEDS THAT MUST BE MET."

STAN USMC 1961-67

[andrea]

so, are you saying she was only used as bait to get to Iraqi soldiers? Please elaborate, this is a trip.

thanks
andrea

[Cheddar]

Originally posted by david mancuso:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 1343:
On an unrelated yet related note (the big conspiracy pie)..seems as though another memeber of the rescue team which saved Jessica Lynch...IS DEAD. What!

Pray tell!!!

d

Ps.

I wonder if wonderful BB had anything to do with it:

......I seen part of an interview with her last night on MSNBC. She was talking about her visits with her grandchildren in one part. She said when they leave almost full, or half full cans of opened soft drinks, she would like to CHOKE them. Nice lady. </font>[/QUOTE]Another article (http://www.rense.com/general43/sstr.htm)

[andrea]

this is really scary. i am sure we will never know the truth.

[djdub63]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:TffEP7Qqn5UC:www.soft.net.uk/kelly/toast.jpg

Our President graemlins/lol.gif

[jimmymack-2000]

The link between the slaying of the man in Long Beach and any conspiracy theory is tenuous at best, Cheddi. The man was part of a 500-strong diversionary force miles away from the Lynch rescue. And, we are talking about Long Beach...

[andrea]

Got this on another board from someone I know. KPFK is a local radio station.

straight up lies.

on KPFK they had a sergeant who was hospitalized in the same hospital as Lynch at the same time and she broke it down on how everything that was reported was an exageration or lie. The hospital had actually called the US military and let them know they had US soldiers and that they were being treated and that they could come pick them up anytime. she saw the 'rescue team' set up outside and wait for the 'embedded' reporters to show up, then moved in. it was all a publicity stunt. they left her in her bed while just running in to get Lynch.

now they have a TV movie to solidify the lie even further for the sheep of Fox news. we are truly in surreal times.

andrea

[Dolemite73]

The Jessica Lynch rescue operation was run out of the place I was working at during the war. I saw it live on remote screens they had in our system. The special ops commander was sitting right next to me running the whole show. To set the record straight, it was not a staged thing. The area around the An Nasiriyah Hospital was still a very deadly place. There was still hostile fire and we had to use artillary to suppress enemy fire during the rescue. Jessica Lynch's rescue was not the only action the special ops guys did. The unearthed some US servicemembers that was buried in the garden outside the hospital, they were still trying to lacte people we had missing. It was a very complex operation. Don't believe everything you read or hear. Now did her rescue get hyped? Yes. Did it serve a propaganda purpose? Definitely. But lets not downplay what happened. They rescued a POW that had been taken by the enemy. And I feel damned proud just doing my little part to assist them.